From the University of Utah a press release with a shaky basis, since all hurricanes create some micro-seismicity. But, our friends will likely try to make something of it.

Superstorm Sandy shook the US
‘Standing waves’ in Atlantic caused seismicity as far as Seattle
SALT LAKE CITY, April 18, 2013 – When superstorm Sandy turned and took aim at New York City and Long Island last October, ocean waves hitting each other and the shore rattled the seafloor and much of the United States – shaking detected by seismometers across the country, University of Utah researchers found.
“We detected seismic waves created by the oceans waves both hitting the East Coast and smashing into each other,” with the most intense seismic activity recorded when Sandy turned toward Long Island, New York and New Jersey, says Keith Koper, director of the University of Utah Seismograph Stations.
“We were able to track the hurricane by looking at the ‘microseisms’ [relatively small seismic waves] generated by Sandy,” says Oner Sufri, a University of Utah geology and geophysics doctoral student and first author of the study with Koper. “As the storm turned west-northwest, the seismometers lit up.”
Sufri was scheduled to present the preliminary, unpublished findings in Salt Lake City Thursday, April 18 during the Seismological Society of America’s annual meeting.
There is no magnitude scale for the microseisms generated by Sandy, but Koper says they range from roughly 2 to 3 on a quake magnitude scale. The conversion is difficult because earthquakes pack a quick punch, while storms unleash their energy for many hours.
The shaking was caused partly by waves hitting the East Coast, but much more by waves colliding with other waves in the ocean, setting up “standing waves” that reach the seafloor and transmit energy to it, Sufri and Koper say.
While many people may not realize it, earthquakes are not the only events that generate seismic waves. So do mining and mine collapses; storm winds, waves and tornadoes; traffic, construction and other urban activities; and meteors hitting Earth.
“They are not earthquakes; they are seismic waves,” says Koper, a seismologist and associate professor of geology and geophysics. “Seismic waves can be created by a range of causes. … We have beautiful seismic records of the meteor that hit Russia. That’s not an earthquake, but it created ground motion.”
While Sandy’s seismicity may be news to many, Koper says microseisms just as strong were detected before and after the superstorm from North Pacific and North Atlantic storms that never hit land but created “serious ocean wave action.”
Koper adds: “Hurricane Katrina in 2005 was recorded by a seismic array in California, and they could track the path of the storm remotely using seismometers.”
In a related study set for presentation on Friday at the seismology meeting, Koper and geophysics undergraduate student YeouHui Wong found preliminary evidence that seismometers near Utah’s Great Salt Lake are picking up seismic waves generated either by waves or winds on the lake.
Koper says researchers wonder if microseisms from storms and other causes might trigger tiny but real earthquakes, but “that hasn’t been investigated yet,” he says.
Earthscope Picks up Seismic Waves from Ocean Wave Collisions
The microseisms generated by Sandy were detected by Earthscope, a National Science Foundation-funded array of about 500 portable seismometers that were first placed in California in 2004 and have been leapfrogging eastward so that most now are located east of line running from Minnesota to east Texas, and west of a line from Lake Erie to Florida. Some remain scattered across the Midwest and West, with a heavier concentration in the Pacific Northwest.
Earthscope’s purpose is to use seismic waves from quakes and other sources to make images of Earth’s crust and upper mantle beneath North America – similar to how X-rays are used to make CT scans of the human body. To do it accurately, scientists must understand all sources of seismic waves.
Sufri says the new study included Earthscope data from Oct. 18 to Nov. 3, 2012, “which coincides with the passage of Hurricane Sandy, and we tried to understand microseisms that were generated.”
Sandy caused a damaging storm surge due to its size – almost 1,100 miles in diameter for tropical-storm-force winds – more than its intensity, which was 3 when it hit Cuba and 2 off the Northeast coast.
“The energy generated by Sandy is going to be used to image the crust and upper mantle under North America,” says Koper, noting that Earthscope uses years of seismic data to construct images. “We are using seismic waves created by ocean waves to make images of the continent.”
Normal ocean waves “decay with depth very quickly,” says Koper. But when Sandy turned, there was a sudden increase in waves hitting waves to create “standing waves” like those created when you throw two pebbles in a pond and the ripples intersect. “Pressure generated by standing waves remains significant at the seafloor,” he says.
“When Sandy made that turn to the northwest, although wind speeds didn’t get dramatically bigger, the seismic energy that was created got tremendously bigger because the ocean’s standing waves were larger from the wave-wave interaction,” he adds.
Not only did the seismic waves become more energetic, “but the periods got longer so, in a sense, the sound of those seismic waves got deeper – less treble, more bass – as the storm turned,” Koper says.
Seismic Tracking of Hurricanes
Seismologists can track Sandy and other big storms because seismometers detect three components of motion: one vertical and two horizontal. If most of the energy on a seismometer is detected with a north-south motion, it means the source of the energy is north or south of the device.
“If you have enough seismometers, you can get enough data to get arrows to point at the source,” Koper says.
He says the seismologists didn’t track Sandy in real time, but the seismographic data of the storm suggests it might be possible to help track storms in the future using their seismicity.
Sufri speculates that seismic tracking of storms might allow observations that satellites can miss, and perhaps could help researchers “understand how climate is changing and how it is affecting our oceans – are we seeing more intense storms and increasing numbers of storms?”
Koper says the Sandy study “is exploratory science where we are trying to learn fundamental things about how the atmosphere, oceans and solid Earth interact.”
Video of seismic activity from superstorm Sandy may be viewed here:
The Seismological Society of America Salt Lake City meeting website, including study abstracts, is at: http://seismosoc.org/meetings/2013/
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What could be interesting here would be micro-seismic variations with atmospheric pressure and wind conditions (storm surge); ocean depth (continental slope and shelf) and water structure (depth to thermocline with internal wave formation and possible marine biology connection- deep scattering layer); coastal and shelf-edge configuration and gradient; geologic transition from oceanic to continental crust – depth to MOHO; energy transfer from solar to atmosphere to ocean to solid earth, etc.
“…Koper says researchers wonder if microseisms from storms and other causes might trigger tiny but real earthquakes… .” [atheok @10:23, 4/22]
“…equivalent Richter scale magnitude is NEGATIVE 1.5, as significant as a gnat’s hair.” [tadchem @6:27, 4/22]
Tiny but real.
Like the odds of winning the __(your state here)__ State Lottery.
Perhaps, this helps explain why the general public is so easily duped.
[WARNING: The following is non-scientific and/or pretty obvious, and MAY OFFEND (or bore to death) SOME POSTERS — for more science, scroll down to at least the next post]
— Educating the public is a good thing and we should continue to try.
— For, the only way to defeat a cult is to make it an unprofitable enterprise for the cult leaders
(the Cult of Climatology’s “Gang of 1,000 Climatologists” styling themselves “scientists”).
— It will become unprofitable for them when it becomes unprofitable for investors in products or services whose sales are mostly due to regulations based on Climatology’s lies.
— The only way to do that is to change the law reflect genuine science.
— The law will reflect genuine science when the educated public demands it of their elected officials via the voting booth.
— So, public education IS the key.
HOWEVER, due to the above gullibility to tiny but real possibilities of horrific scenarios, the public is more likely to follow the Climate Liars — just in case.
CONCLUSION: Pray! Only God can ensure victory. And I believe God will. Courage, dear warrior scientists for truth! You see only the fir cone (full of seeds of truth that you have planted (and will continue to plant)) lying in the palm of your hand. God sees a forest.
Of course, we are also fighting a battle against the ravages of socialism which will, ultimately, doom most of the people of the West to revert to a 17th century lifestyle. Happy thought: it will also stop the Cult of Climatology, ha, ha (mirthless laugh).
Thus, pray.
Umm, the Richter scale hasn’t been widely used in the US for decades…
I don’t know who has “friends” among left leaning pure watermelon socialist, secular humanist criminopaths who have committed a larger scientific fraud than Piltdown Man.
Maybe someone with left leaning tendencies who thinks crime is alright if it doesn’t hurt the really environmentally sensitive people.
Who else would have “friends” like that?
Only somebody whose fame and/or fortune was tied to the scam.
To anyone else it’s crime, they’re criminals, and it’s actually against the law to associate with a convicted felon.
If there’s – and there is – adequate evidence dozens, scores of felonies have occurred, who would have friends among such people?
No one I know.
In most businesses, the people who defraud customers/the public aren’t ‘friends of mine.’
@Jeff Alberts
That may be so, but everyone still _calls_ it the Richter scale. Certainly most of the media do.
“Also worth noting is that earthquake measurements under the moment magnitude scale in the United States—3.5 and up, on the MMS scale—are still usually erroneously referred to as being measured under the Richter scale in the general public, as well as the media, due to the familiarity with earthquakes being measured by the Richter scale instead of the MMS scale.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale
It would be interesting to see the data for that period coming from the GPS sites in Virginia, New Hampshire, Georgia, North Carolina. http://www.earthscope.org/science/instrumentation/seismometers/
http://www.earthscope.org/current_status/showstatus.php?map=US&Instrument=All Instruments&Facility=GPS&StartDate=2000-01-01&Display=Instruments
Yeah, that was my point.
Well on average, tropical storms like Sandy, don’t really do a lot of damage. It’s only when you cherry pick, and only look at the data at the high points of the storm, that you might actually notice damage occurring. Well that’s what climastrologists do, isn’t it; cherry pick the data that ” is consistent with” their biassed thesis, and ignore what doesn’t happen at other times.
“””””…..Jeff Alberts says:
April 22, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Umm, the Richter scale hasn’t been widely used in the US for decades……..”””””
Don’t know where in the USA you live, but here in California, we DO use the Richter scale, and we never ever heard of any MMS scale; too easy to confuse with Mixed MartialScuffling.
In fact my usual TV news network ( Communist Chinese Television News (in English)) has been broadcasting the gory details of the big Chinese 7.0 earthquake around the clock, since it happened.
Something over 55 years ago, there was a very popular collectors LP (that’s an ANCD, or Analog Non Compact Disc) recording titled “Out of this world.”
One side of this ANCD (back in those days they actually used both sides of the disc) was recorded EM seisms from the atmosphere, which data, is no longer used for climate modelling. It was recorded from a Williamson Amplifier connected to a high sensitivity low noise wide band amlifier, connected to a broadband long wire antenna. Any time there was an electrical seism sent from ground to cloud or verse vicea, anywhere on earth, it would be recorded on this EM seismometer, and could later be played back as a falling or rising swept frequency spread spectrum signal, tha you could listen to in you car, on your ipad/ped/pid/pod/pud, if you had one. These EM seismic anomalies went by avant garde names, like “whistlers” and “howlers” and even “dawn chorus”, although they could happen any time night or day.
But the really interesting seismic core was recorded on the other side of the disc. A standard accoustic seismometer; aka mike, was connected through an analog amplifier to a tape recorder; dead tree tapes in those days. The tape machine was recording at a speed of 0.02 inches per second, for many hours on end. They then MPEGged the tape by playing it back at the SI standard tape speed of 7.5 inches per second, and drove that into another Williamson Amlifier driving a remote controlled seismic gouge, that scratched channels into the laquer surface of a rotating seismic recording disc (ANCD).
When this side was played on an ordinary analog home theatre system, the crustal seisms, sounded a whole lot like thunder, as the waves reverberated around the resonant cavity, that is the earth. Depending on where on earth , the seism occurred, the reverb nature of the recording changed with the accoustics of the crust. Very impressive. An interesting background sound, heard off and on, during the thunder claps, sounded like a cricket chirping to find a mate. That was eventually traced to a bulldozer working on a road project somewhere out in the Nevada desert a hundred miles from the “cone of silence” site, where this observatory was located.
A more mysterious high pitched whistle was harder to explain. Absolutely constant in frequency, it turned on and off with an approximately, but fixed 70 % on duty cycle.
Eventually, this was traced to an ice cream factory in Nevada, that worked a five day work week. They had a monster refrigeration compressor, that was driven by a single cylinder diesel engine during the work week, and shut down for maintenace during the weekend. The huge engine kachunked along at about one rev per second, chilling the ice cream fixings.
So tropical storm seisms, like Sandy, are nothing more than ordinary sound, being heard under extra-ordinary circumstances. Scientists have been tuning into it for decades.