…by agreeing with and reposting a photo that insults not only the intelligence of rational thinking people, but Native American people as well. (warning – graphic language)
Source: http://twitter.com/billmckibben/status/314392960777203712
The real reason for a coal terminal? Export. Much like the feared and loathed KXL pipeline will move the oil out of Canada for export, that coal is going to get used somewhere. Since Bill and his friends have worked to demonize coal use in the USA, UK, Australia, Europe, and elsewhere, it gets exported to places like China. But, weepy Bill and his protester friends don’t understand much beyond the emotional arguments being made.
All McKibben and the environmental movement have succeeded in doing is shifting the location of the use of these fuels.
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Obviously not yet got to the second stage of Bloom’s taxonomy!
As Andy says, that is a photo from the Australian Greens party organised rally here in Newcastle last Saturday.
If you look at the photostream posted by the 3rd commenter to the report on our local TV station NBN you’ll see them in this photo. The young lady holding up the sign is just above the black swan on the blue banner at the front of the crowd.
The Greens have been trying to stop all our new coal loaders for a long long time. Since we’re now the biggest coal exporting port in the world I take this to mean our town is not quite as silly as our Australian Greens party would like us to be.
Aside from the second lady (admittedly it may be a similar looking hair-do not a head-dress) we have very few Amerindian people here in our town, but lots of people who would like to work and make a living.
It’s actually quite sad, more young lives ruined by the scourge of Acquired Anencephaly.
Its not all bad down here in Newy..
Was at a local pub listening to some music, and one of the unwashed wanted to hang one of those “No 4th coal terminal” signs behind the band.
The young singer responded.. ” f ‘off, you do know that coal provides the electricity for the music, don’t you”
had to laugh 🙂
John Tillman sez:
ROFLMAO. Well done.
Smiling faces at a protest…..just don’t seem to strike the right chord.
Certainly not this heartstring.
Probably just a lack of …..communication.
He’ll get it right next time, for sure 🙂
Since we are being vulgar, I’m thinking the “ladies” in the photo must be couple of his groupies.
Greed is good,honey.
Since Bill and his friends have worked to demonize coal use in the USA, UK, Australia, Europe[…]
Can’t be doing that good a job … […] The [American Coal export] boom isn’t about feeding the voracious appetites of China and India—not yet. Instead, American coal mined in the eastern U.S. and shipped overseas goes overwhelmingly to Europe, especially the U.K., the Netherlands and Italy.
The U.S. is sending coal to Newcastle, and other English cities where the lights go on thanks to power plants fired by the American imports. British coal consumption for electricity rose about 50% in the third quarter of 2012 compared with 2011, as power producers there found coal cheaper than natural gas. […]
On the subject of “Progress” ? ? ?
If the opposite of “Pro” is “Con”….what is the opposite of progress ? ? ?
jayhd says (March 20, 2013 at 1:36 pm): “Maybe Greedy was the eighth dwarf, and he worked the coal mine.”
Greedy is actually a Smurf:
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0140602/
Plus increasing net energy costs to transport that coal several thousand miles across oceans. The closer to the source you can burn that coal efficiently, the lower you net energy costs.
Bill
Darn. I hate it when cute girls disagree with me. 🙂
In Canada, the Globe and Mail has of course been very sympathetic to anything the anti oil sand lobby can muster, including the use of Native peoples, the untouchables of political correctness in Canada, in order to promote what increasingly looks like their owners (Thomsons of Thomson Reuters International) and friends business interests in carbon markets investments.
The Canadian Press and CBC are also part of the disinformation machine. Postmedia has their own journalist/activists who day in and day out are pushing the great alarmism.
BC is of course gangrened by US billionaires shills and so called charities, from their support to specific Universities (Environmental Law of UVic for instance and the SFU greens) to politicians tainted with green mongers.
information at
http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/vancouver-mayor-gregor-robertson-and-nrdc.html
http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/vancouver-mayor-gregor-robertson-and-nrdc.html
http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/vision-vancouver-backed-by-a-charity.html
Well if you don’t have coal it seems you can’t rely on ‘cheap’ solar anymore-http://www.news.com.au/business/breaking-news/china-solar-giant-suntech-collapses/story-e6frfkur-1226602056858
and on top of your carbon credits heading south, subsidies for subsidence are not looking too good either-
http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2013/03/the-tide-ebbs-on-another-climate-myth
All in all with their hockey stick crutches falling apart Big Climate heads must be exploding everywhere trying to keep up with it all.
RE: “Mark Bofill says:
March 20, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Does anybody else wonder if McKibben and Hansen and so on are only in this so they can get activist chicks? Not saying they are, just wondering just sayin.”
I wish that were the case, for it would make them seem more human. Unfortunately, if you look at their lives, it seems they were mostly interested in money, and status. Looking back several decades, my own (limited) experience with “activist chicks” is that they were downright costly, in terms of money and status.
I imagine Hansen and McKibben’s relations with activist chicks were politically correct. What is incorrect is their relationship with Truth. I can only suppose they never read, (or were unimpressed by,) scripture which states bad things happen to you if you mislead the blind.
Peter in Ohio says:
March 20, 2013 at 1:42 pm
…and they’ll be having this exact same conversation in 40 years time through whatever medium is available to them at that time. If the “greens” get their way these kids will have lost their smartphones and tablets and will be back to writing and mailing letters…so who knows what they’ll be demonstrating about.
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Are you sure? It takes a lot of energy to produce paper. And a simple pencil (graphite core in wood) or a ballpoint pen is the result of international trade. Then there’s the complicated business of collecting and distributing letters. Writing with a quill-pen and soot-based ink and sending letters was for the wealthy in 17th century Europe, which is where the greens want to take us.
Don’t forget stopping local use of coal, means exporting steel manufacturing/ jobs – Coal is the most efficient blast furnace fuel. Thus China ,India Etc.. produce most of the worlds steel to build Ships, Trains, Trucks, Cars, Fridges Etc……. Yep Weepy Bill you and your fellow watermelons are a treasure to the working man and the economy – NOT!!!
Insulting to Native Americans? C’mon, that’s her real hair. It all happened when…
Ok, the best ending to that last sentence gets a prize. I won’t, however, pay for the prize. I’ll have my neighbor pay for the prize. That’s the Obama way.
I guess he hasn’t noticed my post on his twitter… Lol
If you ever Google McKibben you find that like so many prominent people in the CACW environmental scam today they have essentially NO relevant scientific training. McKibben is, I believe, an English major for God sakes! Obama pushes this crap without any scientific knowledge. He’s like most lawyers. Stupid but good at reading his teleprompter. I really don’t know which is worse, those like McKibben who are making a good living lying about the environment or those voters and citizens who are so incredibly gullible they’ll believe all of this BS. I’ve come to the nasty conclusion that I can’t take seriously the opinion of anyone on any topic if they believe the “consensus” or any other aspect of the climate scam. I think it’s hopeless until nearly all human life is wiped out by an asteroid and we start all over.
Dear vitriolic, hate-filled Albertans who responded to my note. I see that you want to get into a chicken**** war of insults. There is nothing quite so unrewarding as talking to Albertans, but I will be drawn in enough to say that I wasn’t even thinking of the most important place in Canada, Fort McMurray when I wrote my note. You are probably not aware that BC ships a lot of coal, logs, semi-milled wood, minerals and other non or partially processed raw materials. I don’t think the shipping of coal or bitumen as an energy source is a problem, but when a country, state or province doesn’t have the brains to do anything with their resources other than sell them unprocessed, well that is pretty much the definition of loser. I was simply trying to point out that there might be good reasons to be protesting the shipping of coal other than concern over a trumped up global warming scam.
Who wants a new coal terminal where? A few details would be nice.
It will all be burned Bill. At the absolute very best it might abrogate (another):
“The onset of the LEAP occurred within less than two decades, demonstrating the existence of a sharp threshold, which must be near 416 Wm2, which is the 65oN July insolation for 118 kyr BP (ref. 9). This value is only slightly below today’s value of 428 Wm2. Insolation will remain at this level slightly above the inception for the next 4,000 years before it then increases again.”
Sirocko, et al, 2005, A late Eemian aridity pulse in central Europe during the last glacial inception, nature, vol. 436, 11 August 2005, doi:10.1038/nature03905, pp 833-836.
extending us perhaps into another post-MPT interglacial, like MIS-11 seems to have been.
Or it won’t.
It might leap up into one, two or three thermal excursions, like it often has (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/16/the-end-holocene-or-how-to-make-out-like-a-madoff-climate-change-insurer/), right at an end interglacial! Which low-end post-MPT interglacial “noise” is an order of magnitude above your IPCC AR4 anthropogenic signal.
Before climate decays into the next glacial. Unless CO2 can prevent that ever happening again.
Any guesses, Bill, on where the next terminal moraine will ground-out? Assuming, of course, that there will be another……..
There was a serious article about 20 years ago arguing that being a demonstrator or activist was a form of male “display,” or strutting ones stuff for the ladies, and that it works. I’ve also read less formal pieces, memoirs or recollections by activists, where access to chicks was mentioned as one of the benefits of their involvement. It certainly worked for choo-choo Pachauri!