FLASHBACK March 2011: Obama on Deporting Illegals ‘America Is a Nation of Laws,’ Presidential Action Not ‘Appropriate’
Obama Administration Moves Forward on Climate Change Without Congress
Forthcoming regulation likely means no new coal-fired power plants will be built in the United States
By Rebekah Metzler February 22, 2013
President Barack Obama is tired of waiting for Congress to move on legislation to reduce carbon emissions, and his administration is poised to move forward on actions to do just that—including a move that will effectively eliminate the possibility of any new coal plant opening in the United States, experts say.
“We can choose to believe that Superstorm Sandy, and the most severe drought in decades, and the worst wildfires some states have ever seen were all just a freak coincidence,” Obama said during his State of the Union address. “Or we can choose to believe in the overwhelming judgment of science—and act before it’s too late.”
Source: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/22/obama-administration-moves-forward-on-climate-change-without-congress
Sure, let’s ignore China and Germany building new coal plants like there is no tomorrow because some activist idiots (led by “death train” Hansen)have made the weak minded afraid of the weather.
What happens when people start dying in the cold winters because they can’t afford electricity? This is already happening in Britain. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240716/24-000-died-cold-homes-winter-Fears-grow-figure-higher-year-spiralling-bills.html
My comment to this unlawful presidential action spurred on by irrational fearmongering activists like Bill McKibben and 350.org is simply “Up yours, Mr. President“.
h/t to reader e. c. cowan
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James Evans says:
February 22, 2013 at 10:50 am
Willis,
“Was this the tripartite division of power envisioned by the founding fathers?”
Surely the tripartite division of power was simply based on the British tripartite division of power, with a few tweaks. And do we really want to go into what was envisioned by the founding fathers? They had some pretty weird ideas on race, for a start.
No it was not based on the UK. The UK is a ‘United Kingdom’ the Uiited states is a Federation of States into a Republic. The Constitution and the subsequent 10 Amendments are specific on the limitation of the powers of the Federal government as a whole and the rights of the people.
The problem is that everyone in the Congress, Senate and Supreme Court have got an overweening sense of their own importance, they are ONLY the Federal government and that has limited scope which they have consistently ignored. They should have been put back in their box a long time ago. Now they believe that they can micromanage down to the smallest issues and have created agencies who believe that they as ‘the feds’ have total power over the States. Unless someone takes a stand then The Constitution will be effectively dead. And that includes the rights in all of the first 10 amendments. Go on google them and read them and see which ones you would say are seen as fundamental and fully protected by all of the current Congress, Supreme Court or President.then remember that each and every one of them has sworn an oath to protect The Constitution that they are daily ignoring – or to use the Presdents phrase – ‘going around’. Ideally they should all be impeached, but there will be any number of hair splitting lawyers forcing modern usage on the old words saying it is legal for the President to deprive someone of life liberty and the pursuite of happiness if the President believes it is.
Ian W. Sad statement of affairs. It also appears to be true. Within the European (Soviet) Union the rights of the peoples are all being subsumed by the Grande Projet of a United States of Europe. And (just about) ALL politicians are going forward one this AGW Global Warming myth. As politicians say: There is not turning back! That was also said of the Charge of the Light Brigade – and look what a debacle that was
@ur momisugly http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/22/king-obama-to-circumvent-lawful-due-process-on-climate/#comment-1230489
Nice . . . . most important part of the website . . . .
http://www.climatecentral.org/what-we-do/funding/
@ur momisugly http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/22/king-obama-to-circumvent-lawful-due-process-on-climate/#comment-1230877 and http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/22/king-obama-to-circumvent-lawful-due-process-on-climate/#comment-1230880 and others on the subject . . . .
“”The Democratic-Republican Party was the political party organized by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison in 1791-93. “” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic-Republican_Party
I would agree with Jefferson and say this country was set up as a Democratic Republic. And the founding documents are the principles by which all “citizens” were (are) to govern themselves since we are a government . . . “of the people, by the people and for the people” . . . . This is way oversimplified but essentially accurate. It is a part of what has been lost, over looked, or, forgotten, and; needs to be reclaimed and observed by every citizen, now and in the future.
No body is perfect, but, hopefully they do the best they can . . . . given the circumstances. . . . and the rest . . . they just can’t/won’t/don’t give a care for anyone other than themselves. Many think the President is one of “them” latters, and I do not envy the Presidents circumstance or position. I am glad I am not in his shoes, because he will never please everyone.
“and that’s all I got to say about that” . . . for now.
Let’s see how this works out for him.
http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/23/17062042-white-house-tells-agencies-to-widen-access-to-federally-funded-research?lite
People are getting silly thus damaging their own credibility on a very serious matter.
Remarks such as drone strikes on coal plants is an example, over the top and a switch of context from a war situation. And “bubbagyro” is on a poorly explained tangent, apparently from his ideology of a specific debatable issue. (Anonymously, whereas Willis is at least using his real name and urging others to do the same.)
The EPA has long been accused of circumventing Congress by using its regulation making powers, as have other agencies. Beyond that there is interpretation of laws and regulations, which as sole source they can be quite successful at getting away with. While government has been moving in that direction for decades remarks such as those I name above do not help the communication to thinking voters that is needed to turn the trend around.
I recommend Leonard Peikoff’s book “The Ominous Parallels: Nazism and Contemporary America”, which chronicles the roots of the rise of National Socialism in Germany and explains the risks of similar happening in the US.
Note Obama’s use of the standard type of line “judgement of science”, which really means believing who you want to believe. I doubt he’s as bad as Hitler, who preached deciding on emotions (thus on faith) – but he’s headed society in that direction. Totalitarianism of the communist and Nazi variety is based on faith (as Marxism is internally contradictory), though Hitler, Lenin, and Trotsky were cheap thugs when they were young adults.
Jailing emitters is a likely progression of the EPA, climate alarmists such as David Suzuki have mused about that happening.
Laurie Bowen says:
February 23, 2013 at 7:52 am
yup.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/21/looks-like-shes-a-former-penn-state-student-of-michael-mann/#comment-1230452
@ur momisugly http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/22/king-obama-to-circumvent-lawful-due-process-on-climate/#comment-1231293
You should check out some of the foundation sites . . . . they give away alot of money, which is motivated and enabled by the “profit” tax laws . . . which is why the Treasury is broke, which is why the US can not pay the bills.
Can you blame anyone for going where the money is when the only other option may be food stamps, the military or some other quasi government funded option.
Code word for this method of concentrating the property, money and power is “structural deficit” design.
. . . . In my humbled opinion.
@http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/22/king-obama-to-circumvent-lawful-due-process-on-climate/#comment-1231260
Works out similar here, no doubt,…er…if we are allowed to know.
http://sciencewriters.ca/initiatives/muzzling_canadian_federal_scientists/
No, i cannot blame them, and am a bit ashamed that i wish (sometimes) that i was so blessed.
“structural deficit” nice.
Kajajuk “structural deficit” those are the presidents words . . . not mine!
Mark Bofill says:
February 22, 2013 at 11:23 am
I agree with you Mark. He doesn’t look too bad on the surface but try “drinking” him for a few years. All you’ll find are rotten Grapes! He and his Scumbags are going to win eventually because the rational and reasonable people are dwindling fast and because we are weak from not being able to eat good food these days (the soil doesn’t give us too many nutrients any more), The average bloke on the Street won’t be able to counteract the rubbish that’s put out there in the name of Science.
WUWT tries very hard to correct the rubbish (thank you Anthony et al) but there are too many on the payroll for this to go away. Besides this environmental stuff is only a distraction to get our minds off the real threat to us. The Economy is what gives our Society it’s everything. When that goes bellyflop Billions of people worldwide will see their Superannuation go up in smoke. Then people in public life are going to have to accept the responsibility for their ideologies that will have Bankrupted the entire World. No-one will have the money to bail-out the world.
As an example, in Australia, we went from a budget surplus of $20-40Billion/year and no fed guv debt to repeated budget deficits and >$250Billion in debt from when the Socialists (the Labor Party) got in till now. Never mind the Small and large Business debt. They cannot help themselves because they spend too much on us and borrow to pay for it (that’s the simple answer). All because the voices of reason are shut out by the media. That’s how governments the world over control the populace. If their is a voice of reason, it is quickly drowned out by the Guv or anyone who agrees with their philosophy.
Even if the Liberal Party wins the Federal Election this year, they will have to Severely Cut Guv spending with all the problems that will have for the Economy because many people rely on the Guv for their benefits. It could always have been worse and I personally think that the World Economy will collapse due to all the Debt of almost every Country within 5 years. All we can do is elect governments who will do the right thing by us and pray that we find the right way to go in our daily lives. HFTC.
It is logically impossible to be extra-constitutional without being unconstitutional.
Just found a article about the NREL which is funded by the DOE to the tune of over 1/2 Billion dollars which pays the head almost $ 100 Million Dollars. One wonders how many BTU’s of usable energy we got for this enterprise. These are the folks who are going to find the energy source that will replace coal?
Maybe it is time to buy an emergency generator!!
CO: Secret energy lab spawns million dollar govt employee
http://watchdog.org/62420/co-secret-energy-lab-spawns-million-dollar-govt-employee/
“If you live outside Colorado, you probably haven’t heard of the National Renewable Energy Laboratory – NREL for short. It’s the place where solar panels, windmills and corn are deemed the energy source of the future and companies who support such endeavors are courted.”
“It’s also the place where highly paid staff decide how to spend hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars.”
“And the public pays those decision-makers well: NREL’s top executive, Dr. Dan Arvizu, makes close to a million dollars per year. His two top lieutenants rake in more than half a million each and nine others make more than $350,000 a year.”
“But what is really going on there? Energy expert Amy Oliver Cooke drove out to the site, which looks something like Nevada’s Area 51 with its remote location and forbidding concrete buildings. NREL had started a construction project and Cooke wanted to see for herself. She didn’t get far: a man in an SUV seemingly appeared out of nowhere, stopped her car, and told her to leave.”
“A beefy looking fellow told me, ‘It’s top secret,’ said Cooke, director of the Energy Policy Center at the Independence Institute think tank. “I said, ‘I’m a taxpayer and I want to see what you’re building’ and he said it was it was ‘top secret so we can bring Americans a better future.’”
“With its bloated budget and overseen by a $533 million a year government-funded management company, Cooke isn’t buying it.”
“NREL has given us two of the most significant boondoggles, one of them being ethanol and the other being (bankrupt) Abound Solar,” she said. “They were part of the team that pushed Abound Solar along. In fact, they wrote in March 2011 on their website how proud they were of their role in abound solar.”
“Am I impressed with NREL? No, not really,” she said.
“NREL’s taxpayer-funded management company has seen its budget more than double since 2006. That’s when one of its most ardent supporters, Rep. Ed Perlmutter D-Lakewood, was first elected to Congress. The lab sits in the middle of his district.”
“Funded by the U.S. Department of Energy, NREL started in 1977 as the Solar Energy Research Institute, a Jimmy Carter-era response to the 1973 Mideast oil crisis. Its budget, then about $100 million, was slashed during the Reagan era.”
“By the time Perlmutter was elected, NREL’s budget was $209.6 million. It increased steadily before ballooning to $536.5, a beneficiary of President Obama’s stimulus plan and a $135 million contract spread out over five years to construct a new science center. Its current $352 million budget is down slightly from last year’s $388.6 million.”
Any one think that NREL is earning it’s big bucks?
Love this topic. WUWT lurkers just itching to integrate politics into scientific discussion. Nothing exists by itself in a vacuum.
OssQss says:
February 22, 2013 at 8:53 pm
I like your post.
But sometimes you have to go backwards before you can go forward. Democrat progressers are mathematically challenged and need to re-learn their math lessons. That’s why we put Obama in again. The other choice would have continued the same corporate government trade, monetary, and foreign policies, so in that light it doesn’t matter who is president, except to make a point.
This is how we did it;
http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/109079927
It’s really simple folks. If you don’t take anything else away from this topic at hand, try to remember this;
The Mainstream Media is there for one purpose and one purpose only; To be a Nonstop Infomercial Promoting Perpetual WAR!
I have alot more faith in the USA than alot of people on this blog. I beleive Obama will get what he wants regarding coal power, but it will be in a weak watered down form. And sometime in the future, the regulations will be quietly relaxed and coal will make a comeback.
Oblarny ? intelligent, loyal —
Dialectic Behavior Therapy – ?. Academic Intelligence may be applied without the Walk thus without logic, appear as the art of community organizing. The great cattle drives Texas North to the rail-head required in the initial ‘start’ days of schooling the herd leader-cows into a particular motion-pattern. Once learned the head-cow knew the Walk.
D.B. Stealey says:February 22, 2013 at 10:33 am
Does anyone really believe that King Obama is going to just step aside when his current term expires?
Maybe he will appoint Michelle Antoinette….
Kajajuk says: February 22, 2013 at 5:12 pm
Hi Dan,
Exactly! And that is why a balance needs to be struck.
We are part of a dis-harmmonious collusion between capatalism and socialism.
Capitalism evolves to where a machine workforce produces the cheapest products that only 1% can afford.
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I followed you until this part. That’s not how capitalism works. If there *were* a machine workforce that produced products that only 1% could afford, some enterprising capitalist would figure out how to get rich selling to the other 99%. This is critically different from socialism in that the 99% spend their money on what *they* perceive as the best value for their money, not what some socialist bureaucrat tells them to buy. Go look up “market gap analysis”
Dan in California says:
February 24, 2013 at 11:33 am
The robots have no budget and the 99% have no money because they are unemployed and revolt as something to do while they starve. An extreme result of ‘infinite’ capitalism.
The socialists no long use money, the ruling class becomes part of the masses and society stagnates then partitions into competing tribes. This leads to a non-point unravelling of any larger society, innovation stops, productivity is insular, and tribes begin to war with each other until the resulting populace is again ruled by the winning tribe(s)…not as clear for me with infinite socialism since i see it as a primal paradigm.
I digressed for dramatic effect.
The point was that neither -ism exists in a vacuum and that they are inherently inter-related. Demonizing either is pointless. Modern society is capitalist by intent and socialist by necessity (each country with its own mix); otherwise there are the riots and unrest of the ’30s (and maybe again, except this time the ruling elite are prepared). I was stating that this mutually inclusive requirement be embraced to foster a dynamic harmony to reap the benefit of both. Instead, i offer, we have a dis-harmony that creates a debilitating polarization where each side denounces the other, which they necessarily need. Most frustrating since society becomes more and more ineffective while bickering with itself.
“””””…..That would be Barbara Lee, I think. I too thought she was crazy at the time, but I’ve come to respect her, even though I don’t agree with her politics. At least she had the guts to vote against something she believed in, which was that going to war against Iraq was wrong……”””””
Well there’s an informative statement……”””””she had the guts to vote against something she believed in,…..””””””
Most people would call that stupidity.
I don’t have a problem, with Congressmember Barbara Lee voting against an Iraq war declaration, that she; and by inference her Oakland constituents, were opposed to. That’s the way the system is supposed to work.
But her earlier vote was against “doing what is necessary”. Not against what she believed was unnecessary.
(A) is “necessary” for (B), if and only if, in the absence of (A), (B) is impossible; no matter what.
Debate all you want about “what is necessary”. But voting against it is insane, and a formula for non-survival.
He still can’t do anything without congress. He can introduce all the bills he wants, but congress still has to pass them…
MattN,
Are you sure? What is your opinion of Obama’s egregious misuse of Executive Orders?
For just one example out of many: Congress voted decisively to reject the Dream Act, which would have legalized millions of illegal aliens within America’s borders. But with the stroke of a pen, Obama made them legal.
Under those circumstances, do you still believe that Congress is relevant? Or are they now a rubber stamp, like the Roman Senate under Agustus?
Serious question…
Shehan is so duplicitous. He mendaciously asserts that “there is a 95% probability that the real trend is between 0.091 ±0.120 °C/decade”. What orifice did he or his pals pull that bogus number from? That would require a number that is supported nowhere in the legitimate scientific literature. It would indicate a recorded +3ºC rise since the LIA — clearly preposterous. Who is Shehan trying to fool, with his false assertions?
The fact is that natural global warming has been only ≈0.35ºC/century since the end of the Little Ice Age:
http://curryja.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/14.jpg
There is no verifiable, falsifiable AGW ‘signal’ in the data. None at all. AGW is a conjecture. There is no empirical, testable measurement of AGW. It is either a figment of Shehan’s religious belief, or he is being deliberately mendacious. I don’t know which it is. He has me baffled with his fabricated numbers.
Those falsely asserting that “carbon” is causing runaway global warming are either deluded, or lying. I am not sure which applies to Shehan. But I cannot see any third alternative.