FLASHBACK March 2011: Obama on Deporting Illegals ‘America Is a Nation of Laws,’ Presidential Action Not ‘Appropriate’
Obama Administration Moves Forward on Climate Change Without Congress
Forthcoming regulation likely means no new coal-fired power plants will be built in the United States
By Rebekah Metzler February 22, 2013
President Barack Obama is tired of waiting for Congress to move on legislation to reduce carbon emissions, and his administration is poised to move forward on actions to do just that—including a move that will effectively eliminate the possibility of any new coal plant opening in the United States, experts say.
“We can choose to believe that Superstorm Sandy, and the most severe drought in decades, and the worst wildfires some states have ever seen were all just a freak coincidence,” Obama said during his State of the Union address. “Or we can choose to believe in the overwhelming judgment of science—and act before it’s too late.”
Source: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/22/obama-administration-moves-forward-on-climate-change-without-congress
Sure, let’s ignore China and Germany building new coal plants like there is no tomorrow because some activist idiots (led by “death train” Hansen)have made the weak minded afraid of the weather.
What happens when people start dying in the cold winters because they can’t afford electricity? This is already happening in Britain. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240716/24-000-died-cold-homes-winter-Fears-grow-figure-higher-year-spiralling-bills.html
My comment to this unlawful presidential action spurred on by irrational fearmongering activists like Bill McKibben and 350.org is simply “Up yours, Mr. President“.
h/t to reader e. c. cowan
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“If someone had told me 5 years ago that we would be seeing clear violations of our constitution, I would have never believed them. We live in scarey times.”
I’m not a constitutional law expert. I’m not even a lawyer. IN fact, I’m not even very bright. But if Obama were to do something that actually violates the constitution, it could and would be challenged. The supreme court as currently constituted would almost certainly strike down such a law. Moreover, the Supreme Court has actually shown themselves to be reasonably sophisticated wrt “global warming.” Was it R.B. G. who made the statement to the effect the the science was far from settled. Who’s more liberal then she?
We are witnessing a coup. Obama intends Congress to become powerless and irrelevant. Expect him to declare himself president-for-life soon.
“…eliminating coal-fired power as an energy source could have drawbacks because the pollutants emitted would no longer be there to block sunlight and slow warming.” — NYT Green blog
So, to slow global warming we actually need to build more coal-fired power plants not fewer.
When one statist, redistributionist, poorly conceived program fails that means we need another statist, redistributionist program.
In other words, if it moves, tax it, if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Joseph Adam-Smith says:
February 22, 2013 at 11:40 am
“Read the Dily Mail article. And what was the response by the warmists?”
Yeah classic socialist responses… “Our socialism is failing… badly. We “fixed” it for a few years by becoming more socialist. So clearly the reason why our socialism is failing is because were not socialist enough.”
They created the probems they have now and the only fix they can figure out is more government. Its like raising taxes… it fixes every problem and if you are at 100% taxes well raise them to 200% that is the only possible fix.
Are you serious? Did you see how the court twisted itself into knots for the ObamaCare ruling? The Roberts court runs under a doctrine of doing whatever is necessary to make a law constitutional, no matter how bad the law or how illogical the ruling.
There are too many violations of the constitution by the Obama administration to list, but here are some highlights:
The Chrysler bankruptcy proceedings were unconstitutional as the bond-holders were denied their constitutional rights to their property and to due process.
The de facto amnesty Obama gave to some illegal aliens is unconstitutional as it complete ignores federal law.
The intervention in Libya was unconstitutional as their was no Congressional authorizatio. (Only Congress can declare war. BTW: a declaration of war does not have to include the actual words “declaration of war.”)
The ban on drilling on the Gulf after the courts lifted the ban was unconstitutional
The recess appointments to the NLRB while the Senate was not in recess are unconstitutional.
An opinion: Capitalism and Socialism must be in dynamic harmony, since either extreme unravels society.
An observation: The present CEO of the US, Obama, is marching along the same incremental progression of the state towards “fascism” for at least 50 years, maybe more.
fas·cism (fshzm) n. 1. often Fascism a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fascism
A more extensive definition can be found here:
http://www.anesi.com/Fascism-TheUltimateDefinition.htm
My use of quotes is to extend the definition to include a case where the “dictator” is not one person, but a group of people…errr…like wa11 street ex3cut1ves
Consider; that corporations are people with rights to free speech, the many executive orders that circumvent constitutional rights since 1995 (accelerated after 2001), the Patriot Act, the Right to Work Act, the…
Im done, lets get back to climate concerns, please.
I do not think the coal industry will suffer at all, they will be supplying coal to the “last minute” coal plants that where build, in excess of closed plants (since 2004), and in particular the big push in 2012 (so as to be old plants before the edict).
kramer: so i will take your bet, unless offshore could mean Mexico or Canada or Central America.
Beyond all this drama it is business as usual.
please have a look at what the carbon tax is doing to Australia we are going down the drain the only hope for a Australia is a change of GOV,T in september and it looks like the labor party has cooked its goose
john robertson says:
February 22, 2013 at 11:23 am
“…Socialism is wonderful, until you run out of other peoples wealth.
These are the times when citizens wake up, our liberal progressive friends are strange, they mistake silence for agreement, so when they scream down any doubters they seem to assume they have consensus.
What they actually have is increased resentment, anger and obstruction…”
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You’ve summed that up brilliantly, John. That’s exactly how I see it. I find it interesting that people are waking up despite the MSM trying to keep everyone duped. I used to think we needed the MSM, now I’m beginning to see we don’t. When the rage starts, it’s going to get bloody, and God help the lot of them then.
Ed_B wrote (10:46 am):
“The justices hate having to do science, but they will have to . . .”
And what makes you think these “luminaries” will be any more willing to take a good, hard look at the science than they did in April, 2007? (Lisa Greenhouse, “Justices Say E.P.A. Has Power to Act on Harmful Gases,” New York Times, 4/3/2007).
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/washington/03scotus.html?n=Top%2FReference%2FTimes%20Topics%2FOrganizations%2FS%2FSupreme%20Court%20
To use the old phrase, “don’t hold your breath.” I say that first because you’ll be helping to improve our climate by exhaling CO2, and then because the watermelons would have you do otherwise.
Real and good change takes a long time . . . .
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/18/mississippi-fixes-oversight-formally-ratifies-13th-amendment-on-slavery/
This is the next step.
Well the US Constitution in article I Section 8, authorises the Congress to make a uniform law for bankruptcy nationwide. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. That did not stop the emperor from simply seizing GM from its owners, and giving it to his auto worker union buddies.
In article IV section 4, the same document says that the Unied States (that’s the feds) shall guarantee to every State in the Union, a Republican form of Government (NOT a democracy); and SHALL defend each of them against INVASION !
It does NOT say armed invasion, simply invasion. Note that is NOT in article I section 8, which tells the Congress what they MAY do. It is in a separate place and it tells THE UNITED STATES government what they MUST do.
So just when is the emperor going to protect ANY State against invasion, let alone all of them.
The present “family unification” Ted Kennedy legacy immigration law is destroying this country, and needs to be repealed.
An immigration visa, should permit the new immigrant to bring a spouse (if any) and any minor children, they would be responsible for under US law; and NOBODY ELSE FOR ANY REASON.
The idea of immigration is to bring into America, persons, who want to become Americans, and start a NEW LIFE in America. It is not to import a body of culture from some foreign place, and turn it loose on the American people.
Parents, grandparents, greatgrandparents, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, cousins, nephews, nieces, whatever, already have a life wherever they are. It serve no purpose to import them to America, just because a member of the family, wants to become an American and start a new life here. It should be self evident, that none of the above would prevent any other person, from applying for a US immigration visa on their own, should they want to stand in line to become Americans.
America does not issue hyphenated immigration visas.
On a related issue; the emperor wants to grant citizenship to those of age, who were dragged unwillingly to the USA by their parents, and have been good law abiders in the US ever since, and haven’t broken any laws.
It follows, that EVERY ONE of those innocent undocumented persons, brought here by their parents, and being of male gender, did on attainingt he age of 18 years, promptly register with the Selective Service System (izzat 5 days or 10 days) , just as is required of all male Americans older than 18 years, and younger than 26 years. Note that on reaching the age of 26, one is also no longer eligible for Obummercare on the parent’s policy, so you need to buy your own medinsurance.
So how many of the 30 milllion invaders, who are also males between ages 18 and 26, did as required and comply with the selective service registration provision of US law; well we are told they are fine upstanding law abiding folks aren’t we ??
@Kajajuk says: February 22, 2013 at 12:28 pm
You really were on a roll with your discussion of facism, despite your strange opening contention about socialism and capitalism.
Orwell said the word “fascism” no longer has any meaning. Originally, fascism was created by Mussolini to replace socialism because he believed socialism’s focus on class and class warfare was preventing any progress. In the Road to Serfdom, Hayek traced fascism’s roots from socialism. Fascism is not a form of capitalism.
BTW: Can you show me a Supreme Court ruling that says corporations are people? The Supreme Court held in Citizens United that it was unconstitutional to ban free speech through the limitation of independent communications by corporations, associations, and unions. In laymen’s terms, we don’t lose our rights to free speech when we form together into groups.
Well, in the case of Germany we have to say that the reason they’re building so many coal plants is quite obvious. When 3-11 happened in Japan and Fukushima had some issues, the Germans went nuts.The German S&R team fled Japan, in Germany Geiger counters were sold out, the media was quick to compare Fukushima with Hitler’s last bunker and political parties (the Green ones) milked Fukushima for their own political gain stating that Fukushima could happen in Germany tomorrow.
So they decided to turn off all their nuclear power stations.
Then they realized that wind and solar can’t supply the country. Yes, they realized that AFTER they decided to turn off the nukes. And now they’re scrambling to find a solution for this before their entire economy collapses.
Sigh. Who is John Galt?
It’s ok, so long as hopefully things remain relatively sane in Canada, we’ll build all the coal fired plants you won’t, and you can buy your power from us – and it will still be cheaper than any of the green energy fantasies.
And to Mr Everard… unfortunately while the MSM is a vile incestual bloated dinosaur, it still does basically feed us all these things to discuss. Blogs such as this would have very little to discuss otherwise, so in a weirdly symbiotic way, we need the very thing we despise. Now there is the odd paper released that we’re aware of due to the great minds spending time on this site, but the vast majority of it is pay walled, and the layman simply doesn’t care enough to actually spend notable amounts of their discretionary budget on it.
What the MSM needs (quite literally for their own survival) is a return to balance. Journalism is now activist editorialism for the sad majority of publications, and we mensch are not cooperating enough like dumb sheep (well, at least 47% of us), we know when we’re not reading “just the facts ma’am”.
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Mike Alexander says:
February 22, 2013 at 11:40 am
“My comment to this unlawful presidential action….”
I’m sorry, but it’s not unlawful, as Congress gave the Executive these powers when they created and paid for the EPA in the first place. From at least the meat packing scandal in 1905, the executive has been granted power by Congress to make these controversial decisions, so that they wouldn’t have to. It’s the same way we go to war now. They write the declaration in a way that give the Exec the decision to go to war so that they won’t suffer the consequences. See the mealy-mouthed ” Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq” as a perfect example. They gave the Pres the ability to go to war, and then some – the opposition party Democrats – claimed to be shocked and disapproving when he actually did. …..”””””
Well doesn’t the Constitution give the Congress the authority to declare war. It doesn’t specify what words they should use. They don’t have to couch it in the words that Roosevelt spoke in Dec 1941.
They approve most things (or not) by taking a vote. Congress itself does not have the machinery to wage a war. So they take a vote to have the executive branch to go do it with the military machine that the CIC does in fact have.
So they did that three times after 9/11. The first by a vote of 534:1 I believe, to combat terroroism, and subsequently on Afghanistan, and Iraq, by lesser votes.
The lone dissenter on the first vote, being a congressman from Oakland, was presumably English Language impaired, and did not understand the meaning of the word “necessary”, or that to vote to NOT do that which is deemed necessary, is a fairly good definition of insanity.
Around the end of the Roman Empire, the emperors were making similar decisions to accelerate their own decline.
Obama will not be remembered as being one of America’s best presidents, just as one of its more forgettable ones.
Kajajuk says: February 22, 2013 at 12:28 pm
An opinion: Capitalism and Socialism must be in dynamic harmony, since either extreme unravels society.
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Capitalism is an economic system that is concerned with the creation of wealth. Socialism is a government system that is concerned with the distribution of wealth. Socialists usually assume there is a fixed quantity of wealth and attempt to distribute it evenly in the interest of “fairness”. They do this not by elevating the poor, but by penalizing the wealthy.
Capitalists, on the other hand, continuously look for a cheaper way to provide more desirable goods and services. If not everyone shares in the benefits, well, that’s not their problem.
China currently has a society with a capitalist economy operating within a dictatorship. Financially, it’s working well for them.
Kajajuk says:
February 22, 2013 at 12:28 pm
An opinion: Capitalism and Socialism must be in dynamic harmony, since either extreme unravels society.
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I don’t generally take up the capitalism vrs socialism argument on this blog, but I’m at least going to briefly express my disagreement with this opinion this time.
The only sense that capitalism and socialism need to be in ‘dynamic harmony’ is in the same sense that a parasite must be in ‘dynamic harmony’ with its host in order to survive.
I didn’t really follow the bit about Wall Street executives. I think it’s sloppy thinking to blur the distinction between the type of power a Wall Street executive has and a government has. Didn’t follow your point there, but whatever.
“The lone dissenter on the first vote, being a congressman from Oakland, was presumably English Language impaired, and did not understand the meaning of the word “necessary”, or that to vote to NOT do that which is deemed necessary, is a fairly good definition of insanity.
That would be Barbara Lee, I think. I too thought she was crazy at the time, but I’ve come to respect her, even though I don’t agree with her politics. At least she had the guts to vote against something she believed in, which was that going to war against Iraq was wrong. It’s too bad more Congress don’t show the same amount of guts in the face of tremendous public pressure. If she’s crazy, and if crazy means voting how you really think instead of pretending to be for or against something, maybe we need more crazy people in Congress.
To say the least, I think Obama’s wrong on several levels here.
Well, let’s see if Congress can or will stymie him. I’m doubtful.
From Willis Eschenbach on February 22, 2013 at 10:35 am:
Wasn’t there something in an oath somewhere about defending the country against all enemies “foreign and domestic”, using any and all means at your disposal?
Welcome to the future:
Death from a swarm of tiny drones: U.S. Air Force releases terrifying video of tiny flybots that can can hover, stalk and even kill targets
This is what they’re working towards. Mini-drones, deployed in swarms, that can carry small packages of poisons, incendiaries, explosives.
How many times have you heard on the news of people dying in horrific house fires, so intense the investigators never find the cause?
But sometimes it’s clearly traceable to careless smoking, evidenced by the small spot on the flammable couch or bedding identified as the starting point, or perhaps it’s an unattended candle catching curtains on fire. Etc.
Of course, these days even civilians have access to lasers so powerful you could shine them through someone’s window and start a fire, from a considerable distance away.
BTW, Willis and others, the Veterans Administration may be trying to get in touch with you. If you’ve ever had PTSD, got help coping with stress from military service, were declared unfit for military service, etc:
SHOCK REPORT — Veterans Receive Letters From VA Prohibiting Ownership or Purchase of Firearms
“Thank you for getting screwed up in service to your country, even if it was temporary and treatable. Now admit you’re a threat to the republic and the public and give up the weaponry. Don’t worry, we’re your government and we’ll take care of you.”
The most recent tranche of Richard Windsor emails released (redacted ENTIRELY) is a classic of the Obama Era.
http://www.globalwarming.org/2013/02/22/what-epa-transparency-looks-like-in-most-open-honest-administration-ever/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+globalwarmingorg+%28GlobalWarming.org%29&utm_content=Google+Reader