Global Warming: Anthropogenic or Not?

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AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW FROM DOWN UNDER

Professor Robert (Bob) Carter

Geologist & environmental scientist

Katharine Hayhoe, PhD, who wrote the December AITSE piece “Climate Change: Anthropogenic or Not?”, is an atmospheric scientist and director of the Climate Science Center at Texas Tech University. She is senior author of the book “A Climate for Change: Global Warming Facts for Faith-Based Decisions”.

I am a senior research geologist who has published more than 100 peer-reviewed papers on palaeo-environmental and palaeo-climatic topics and also author of the book, “Climate: the Counter Consensus”.

Quite clearly, Dr. Hayhoe and I are both credible professional scientists. Given our training and research specializations, we are therefore competent to assess the evidence regarding the dangerous global warming that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) alleges is being caused by industrial carbon dioxide emissions.

Yet at the end of her article Dr. Hayhoe recommends for further reading the websites RealClimate.org and SkepticalScience.com, whereas here at the outset of writing my own article I recommend the websites wattsupwiththat.com and www.thegwpf.org (Global Warming Policy Foundation). To knowledgeable readers, this immediately signals that Dr. Hayhoe and I have diametrically opposing views on the global warming issue.

The general public finds it very hard to understand how such strong disagreement can exist between two equally qualified persons on a scientific topic, a disagreement that is manifest also on the wider scene by the existence of equivalent groups of scientists who either support or oppose the views of the IPCC about dangerous anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming (DAGW).

In this article I shall try to summarize what the essential disagreement is between these two groups of scientists, and show how it has come to be misrepresented in the public domain.

Common ground amongst DAGW protagonists

Though you wouldn’t know it from the antagonistic nature of public discussions about global warming, a large measure of scientific agreement and shared interpretation exists amongst nearly all scientists who consider the issue. The common ground, much of which was traversed by Dr. Hayhoe in her article, includes:

· that climate has always changed and always will,

· that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and warms the lower atmosphere,

· that human emissions are accumulating in the atmosphere,

· that a global warming of around 0.5OC occurred in the 20th century, but

· that global warming has ceased over the last 15 years.

The scientific argument over DAGW is therefore about none of these things. Rather, it is almost entirely about three other, albeit related, issues. They are:

· the amount of net warming that is, or will be, produced by human-related emissions,

· whether any actual evidence exists for dangerous warming of human causation over the last 50 years, and

· whether the IPCC’s computer models can provide accurate climate predictions 100 years into the future.

Dr. Hayhoe’s answers to those questions would probably be along the line of: substantial, lots and yes. My answers would be: insignificant, none and no.

What can possibly explain such disparate responses to a largely agreed set of factual climate data?

How does science work?

Arguments about global warming, or more generally about climate change, are concerned with a scientific matter. Science deals with facts, experiments and numerical representations of the natural world around us. Science does not deal with emotions, beliefs or politics, but rather strives to analyse matters dispassionately and in an objective way, such that in consideration of a given set of facts two different practitioners might come to the same interpretation; and, yes, I am aware of the irony of that statement in the present context.

Which brings us to the matter of Occam’s Razor and the null hypothesis. William of Occam (1285-1347) was an English Franciscan monk and philosopher to whom is attributed the saying ‘Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate’, which translates as ‘Plurality should not be posited without necessity.’ This is a succinct statement of the principle of simplicity, or parsimony, that was first developed by Aristotle and which has today come to underlie all scientific endeavour.

The phrase ‘Occam’s Razor’ is now generally used as shorthand to represent the fundamental scientific assumption of simplicity. To explain any given set of observations of the natural world, scientific method proceeds by erecting, first, the simplest possible explanation (hypothesis) that can explain the known facts. This simple explanation, termed the null hypothesis, then becomes the assumed interpretation until additional facts emerge that require modification of the initial hypothesis, or perhaps even invalidate it altogether.

Given the great natural variability exhibited by climate records, and the failure to date to compartmentalize or identify a human signal within them, the proper null hypothesis – because it is the simplest consistent with the known facts – is that global climate changes are presumed to be natural, unless and until specific evidence is forthcoming for human causation.

It is one of the more extraordinary facts about the IPCC that the research studies it favours mostly proceed using an (unjustified) inversion of the null hypothesis  – namely that global climate changes are presumed to be due to human-related carbon dioxide emissions, unless and until specific evidence indicates otherwise.

What hypothesis do we wish to test?

Though climate science overall is complex, the greenhouse hypothesis itself is straightforward and it is relatively simple to test it, or its implications, against the available data. First, though, we need to be crystal clear about precisely what we mean by the term.

In general communication, and in the media, the terms greenhouse and greenhouse hypothesis have come to carry a particular vernacular meaning – almost independently of their scientific derivation. When an opinion poll or a reporter solicits information on what members of the public think about the issue they ask questions such as “do you believe in global warming”, “do you believe in climate change” or “do you believe in the greenhouse effect”.

Leaving aside the issue that science is never about belief, all such questions are actually coded ones, being understood by the public to mean “is dangerous global warming being caused by human-related emissions of carbon dioxide”. Needless to say, this is a different, albeit related, question. These and other sloppy ambiguities (“carbon” for “carbon dioxide”, for example) are in daily use in the media, and they lead to great confusion in the public discussion about climate change; they also undermine the value of nearly all opinion poll results.

The DAGW hypothesis that I want to test here is precisely and only “that dangerous global warming is being caused, or will be, by human-related carbon dioxide emissions”. To be “dangerous”, at a minimum the change must exceed the magnitude or rate of warmings that are known to be associated with normal weather and climatic variability.

What evidence can we use to test the DAGW hypothesis?

Many different lines of evidence can be used to test the DAGW hypothesis. Here I have space to present just five, all of which are based upon real world empirical data. For more information, please read both Dr. Hayhoe’s and my book.

Consider the following tests:

(i)     Over the last 16 years, global average temperature, as measured by both thermometers and satellite sensors, has displayed no statistically significant warming; over the same period, atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by 10%.

Large increases in carbon dioxide have therefore not only failed to produce dangerous warming, but failed to produce any warming at all. Hypothesis fails.

(ii)   During the 20th century, a global warming of between 0.4O C and 0.7O C occurred, at a maximum rate, in the early decades of the century, of about 1.7O C/century. In comparison, our best regional climate records show that over the last 10,000 years natural climate cycling has resulted in temperature highs up to at least 1O C warmer than today, at rates of warming up to  2.5O C/century.

In other words, both the rate and magnitude of 20th century warming falls well within the envelope of natural climate change. Hypothesis fails, twice.

(iii)  If global temperature is controlled primarily by atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, then changes in carbon dioxide should precede parallel changes in temperature.

In fact, the opposite relationship applies at all time scales. Temperature change precedes carbon dioxide change by about 5 months during the annual seasonal cycle, and by about 700-1000 years during ice age climatic cycling. Hypothesis fails.

(iv)  The IPCC’s computer general circulation models, which factor in the effect of increasing carbon dioxide, project that global warming should be occurring at a rate of +2.0O C/century.

In fact, no warming at all has occurred in either the atmosphere or the ocean for more than the last decade. The models are clearly faulty, and allocate too great a warming effect for the extra carbon dioxide (technically, they are said to overestimate the climate sensitivity). Hypothesis fails.

(v)    The same computer models predict that a fingerprint of greenhouse-gas-induced warming will be the creation of an atmospheric hot spot at heights of 8-10 km in equatorial regions, and enhanced warming also near both poles.

Given that we already know that the models are faulty, it shouldn’t surprise us to discover that direct measurements by both weather balloon radiosondes and satellite sensors show the absence of surface warming in Antarctica, and a complete absence of the predicted low latitude atmospheric hot spot. Hypothesis fails, twice.

One of the 20th century’s greatest physicists, Richard Feynman, observed about science that:

In general we look for a new law by the following process. First we guess it. Then we compute the consequences of the guess to see what would be implied if this law that we guessed is right. Then we compare the result of the computation to nature, with experiment or experience; compare it directly with observation, to see if it works.

It’s that simple statement that is the key to science. It does not make any difference how beautiful your guess is. It does not make any difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is. If it disagrees with experiment it is wrong.

None of the five tests above supports or agrees with the predictions implicit in the greenhouse hypothesis as stated above. Richard Feynman is correct to advise us that therefore the hypothesis is invalid, and that many times over.

Summary

The current scientific reality is that the IPCC’s hypothesis of dangerous global warming has been repeatedly tested, and fails. Despite the expenditure of large sums of money over the last 25 years (more than $100 billion),  and great research effort by IPCC-related and other (independent) scientists, to date no scientific study has established a certain link between changes in any significant environmental parameter and human-caused carbon dioxide emissions.

In contrast, the null hypothesis that the global climatic changes that we have observed over the last 150 years (and continue to observe today) are natural in origin has yet to be disproven. As summarised by an seo consultant in the reports of the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC), literally thousands of papers published in refereed journals contain facts or writings consistent with the null hypothesis, and plausible natural explanations exist for all the post-1850 global climatic changes that have been described so far.

Why is this conclusion not generally understood?

I commented earlier that science is not about emotion or politics, despite which it is uncomfortably true also that public discussion of the global warming issue is conducted far more in accordance with those criteria than it is about science. As discussed at more length in my book, there are three prime reasons for this.

First, as a branch of the United Nations, the IPCC is itself an intensely political and not a scientific body. To boot, the IPCC charter requires that it investigate not climate change in the round, but solely global warming caused by human greenhouse emissions.

Second, from local green activist groups up to behemoth NGOs like Greenpeace and WWF, over the last 20 years the environmental movement has espoused saving the planet from global warming as its leit motif. This has had two devastating results. One is that radical environmentalists have worked relentlessly to sow misinformation about global warming in both the public domain and the education system. And the other is that, faced with this widespread propagandization of public opinion and young persons, and by also by strong lobbying from powerful self-interested groups like government research scientists, alternative energy providers and financial marketeers, politicians have had no choice but to fall into line. Whatever their primary political philosophy, all active politicians are daily mindful of the need to assuage the green intimidation and bullying to which they and their constituents are incessantly subjected.

Third, and probably most influential of all, with very few exceptions major media outlets have provided unceasing support for measures to “stop global warming”. This behaviour appears to be driven by a combination of the liberal and green personal beliefs of most reporters, and the commercial nouse of experienced editors who understand that alarmist environmental reporting sells both product and advertising space.

But given that the science remains uncertain, shouldn’t we give earth the benefit of the doubt?

This famous slogan (and note its deliberately emotive phrasing) is attributed to News Corporation’s Rupert Murdoch; it bears all the hallmarks of having been produced by a green focus group or advertising agency. The catchy phrase also reveals a profound misunderstanding of the real climatic risks faced by our societies, because it assumes that global warming is more dangerous, or more to be feared, than is global cooling; in reality, the converse is likely to be true.

It must be recognized that the theoretical hazard of dangerous human-caused global warming is but one small part of a much wider climate hazard that all scientists agree upon, which is the dangerous natural weather and climatic events that Nature intermittently presents us with – and always will. It is absolutely clear from, for example, the 2005 Hurricane Katrina and 2012 Hurricane Sandy disasters in the US, the 2007 floods in the United Kingdom and the tragic bushfires in Australia in 2003 (Canberra), 2009 (Victoria) and in January this year (widespread), that the governments of even advanced, wealthy countries are often inadequately prepared for climate-related disasters of natural origin.

We need to do better, and squandering money to give earth the benefit of the doubt based upon an unjustifiable assumption that dangerous warming will shortly resume is exactly the wrong type of “picking winners” approach.

Because many scientists, including leading solar physicists, currently argue that the position that the Earth currently occupies in the solar cycle implies that the most likely climatic trend over the next several decades is one of significant cooling rather than warming.  Meanwhile, the IPCC’s computer modellers assure us with all the authority at their command that global warming will shortly resume – just you wait and see.

The reality is, then, that no scientist on the planet can tell you with credible probability whether the climate in 2030 will be cooler or warmer than today. In such circumstances the only rational conclusion to draw is that we need to be prepared to react to either warming or cooling over the next several decades, depending upon what Nature chooses to serve up to us.

What is the best way forward?

Given that we cannot predict what future climate will be, do we still need national climate policies at all?

Indeed we do, for a primary government duty of care is to protect the citizenry and the environment from the ravages of natural climatic events. What is needed is not unnecessary and penal measures against carbon dioxide emissions, but instead a prudent and cost-effective policy of preparation for, and response to, all climatic events and hazards as and when they develop.

As Ronald Brunner and Amanda Lynch have argued in their recent book, Adaptive Governance and Climate Change, and many other scientists have supported too:

We need to use adaptive governance to produce response programs that cope with hazardous climate events as they happen, and that encourage diversity and innovation in the search for solutions. In such a fashion, the highly contentious ‘global warming’ problem can be recast into an issue in which every culture and community around the world has an inherent interest.

Climate hazard is both a geological and meteorological issue. Geological hazards are mostly dealt with by providing civil defense authorities and the public with accurate, evidence-based information regarding events such as earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, storms and floods (which represent climatic as well as weather events), and by mitigating and adapting to the effects when an event occurs.

New Zealand’s GeoNet natural hazard network is a world-best-practice example of how to proceed. GeoNet is New Zealand’s national natural hazard monitoring agency. GeoNet operates networks of geophysical instruments to detect, analyse and respond to earthquakes, volcanic activity, landslides and tsunami. The additional risk of longer-term climate change, which GeoNet currently doesn’t cover, differs from most other natural hazards only in that it occurs over periods of decades to hundreds or thousands of years. This difference is not one of kind, and neither should be our response planning.

The appropriate response to climate hazard, then, is national policies based on preparing for and adapting to all climate events as and when they happen, and irrespective of their presumed cause. Every country needs to develop its own understanding of, and plans to cope with, the unique combination of climate hazards that apply within its boundaries. The planned responses should be based upon adaptation, with mitigation where appropriate to cushion citizens who are affected in an undesirable way.

The idea that there can be a one-size-fits-all global solution to deal with just one possible aspect of future climate change, as recommended by the IPCC and favoured by green activists and most media commentators, fails entirely to deal with the real climate and climate-related hazards to which we are all exposed every day.

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Robert (Bob) Carter is a marine geologist and environmental scientist with more than 40 years professional experience who has held academic positions at the University of Otago (Dunedin) and James Cook University (Townsville), where he was Professor and Head of School of Earth Sciences between 1981 and 1999. His career has included periods as a Commonwealth Scholar (Cambridge University), a Nuffield Fellow (Oxford University) and an Australian Research Council Special Investigator. Bob has acted as an expert witness on climate change before the U.S. Senate Committee of Environment & Public Works, the Australian and N.Z. parliamentary Select Committees into emissions trading, and was a primary science witness in the U.K. High Court case of Dimmock v. H.M.’s Secretary of State for Education, the 2007 judgement from which identified nine major scientific errors in Mr Al Gore’s film “An Inconvenient Truth“. Carter is author of the book, Climate: the Counter Consensus (2010, Stacey International Ltd., London).

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January 30, 2013 6:32 am

Peter White:
At January 30, 2013 at 4:36 am you ask

Professor Carter wrote,

Temperature change precedes carbon dioxide change by about 5 months during the annual seasonal cycle…

How do we know that carbon dioxide follows temperature by 5 months, rather than temperature follows carbon dioxide by 7 months, since it’s an annual cycle?
Thank You,
PJW

The leading parameter is determined by statistical analysis to determine the coherence.
The effect was first reported by Kuo, Lindberg and Thomson in 1990 in the paper they published in Nature. The synopsis of their paper says

The hypothesis that the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide is related to observable changes in the climate is tested using modern methods of time-series analysis. The results confirm that average global temperature is increasing, and that temperature and atmospheric carbon dioxide are significantly correlated over the past thirty years. Changes in carbon dioxide content lag those in temperature by five months.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v343/n6260/abs/343709a0.html
Since then several others have conducted similar analyses and obtained the same finding but also determined that the time of the lag varies with latitude.
Correlation shows a mathematical relationship between two parameters. When one changes then the other changes in a magnitude stated by the mathematical relationship. But correlation gives no indication about causality.
There is no clear correlation between atmospheric CO2 concentration and global temperature (e.g. global temperature has not risen for the most recent 16+ years while atmospheric CO2 concentration has continued to rise).
Coherence shows that two parameters vary such that when one varies then the other varies later. This does give information about causality between the parameters. If the parameters are A and B then if B follows A any change to B cannot be the cause of a change to A (in the absence of a time machine).
Atmospheric CO2 concentration and global temperature cohere such that the CO2 follows the temperature at all time scales[there you are . . mod]. This indicates that the changes to the CO2 cannot be the cause of the temperature changes.
Coherence in the absence of correlation is a strong indication that two parameters are responding to a third parameter (or more parameters). For example, leaves fall off trees soon after children return to school following their summer break: this coherence is very strong (it happens every year). But there is no correlation between the children and the falling leaves (the number of children returning to school has no mathematical relationship to the number of leaves that fall from trees). The time of year is the “third parameter” In this example.
Richard

DCA
January 30, 2013 6:41 am

izen says:
January 30, 2013 at 3:26 am
“Sorry, but the idea that Hayhoe and Carter are equally credible scientists in the research community could only be greeted with incredulity.”

Leave it to a faither to use a logical fallacy instead of a logical argument.

Annie
January 30, 2013 6:41 am

A great article. Thank you Professor Carter.
Like some other commenters I was struck by the title of that book and thought the reference to ‘faith’ totally bizarre. It makes sense only in the context of a DAGW-religion!

rogerknights
January 30, 2013 6:42 am

“DAWG” would be a catchier acronym. Its components could easily be switched from DAGW, thus: “Dangerous Anthropogenic Warming of the Globe.”

izen
January 30, 2013 6:43 am

@- cementafriend
“Here is one of the Professor’s peer reviewed papers concerning climate data. http://members.iinet.net.au/~glrmc/McLean_deFreitas_Carter_JGR_2009.pdf
You do know this paper was comprehensively and roundly debunked ?
Its egregious mistake is to claim that after removing any trend in the data by taking the derivative of the changes the remaining natural variations explain all the variance INCLUDING the trend.
It was useful perhaps to show that if you do the opposite and remove all the natural variation, ENSO and volcanic, then the resulting secular trend as shown by Foster and Rhamsdorf is consistant with the rise in CO2.
http://blog.chron.com/climateabyss/2012/10/carbon-dioxide-and-temperature/

MikeB
January 30, 2013 6:50 am

Sorry – Off Topic – but very funny.

“A controversial 115ft wind turbine has collapsed after being hit by heavy winds.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/9837026/Wind-turbine-collapses-in-high-wind.html
“The Bradworthy Parish Council, who opposed the turbine, expressed concern that there was “nothing exceptional” in the speed of the winds.
Installed by renewable energy company Dulas it was supposed to have a life expectancy of 25 years.

January 30, 2013 6:54 am

izen:
In your post at January 30, 2013 at 6:01 am you say to Bob Carter

(i) Over the last 16 years, global average temperature, as measured by both thermometers and satellite sensors, has displayed no statistically significant warming; over the same period, atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by 10%.

Of course the warming IS statistically significant over 14 or 18 years, the 16 year period is a cherry pick.

NO! Absolutely not!
The recent 16 year period is NOT a “cherry pick” for two reasons.
Firstly, from now backwards is the most recent time. If you want to know what is happening now then it is the ONLY appropriate period and any other period is a “cherry pick”.
Secondly, 16 years is important because it falsifies the climate models according to the NOAA falsification criterion. There has been no discernible (at 95% confidence) rise in global temperature whether or not one extrapolates back over the 1998 ENSO peak or interpolates across that peak.
The facts are clear.
According to the falsification criterion set by NOAA in 2008, the climate models are falsified by the recent period of 16+ years of (at 95% confidence) zero global temperature trend. This is because NOAA says the climate models simulations often show periods of 10 years when global temperature trends are zero or negative but the simulations rule out near zero trends in global temperature for periods of 15 years. What the models “rule out” nature has done.
The climate models are falsified: this contradicts your superstitious belief in AGW, and you need to come to terms with it.
Richard

January 30, 2013 6:57 am

Moderator:
Sincere thanks for your correcting my silly typing mistake in my post at January 30, 2013 at 6:32 am.
Richard

garymount
January 30, 2013 7:02 am

@izen: What you are implying is that a time period isn’t significant unless it shows warming. Only warmists would believe that is valid science.

Claude Harvey
January 30, 2013 7:05 am

Re: Mario Lento says:
January 30, 2013 at 12:20 am
What a wonderful piece that Obama should be forced to read! Then he should come on WUWT and test his ideas.
How can anyone continue to believe a reading of the facts would change our President’s mind about ANYTHING?

izen
January 30, 2013 7:10 am

@- richardscourtney
“It is a ridiculous idea that Hayhoe comes near to Carter’s high standards of scientific ability and credibility. Carter’s suggestion that he and Hayhoe could be considered to be comparable shows Carter’s great humility.”
There are a number of tried and tested methods for assessing the credibility of any scientific researcher.
The number of papers published in the field, how recent those papers are, the quality of the journal in which they are published and how often they are cited by others.
Hayhoe wins on all points, except perhaps citations. The Carter et al 2009 paper has certainly been widely cited, by climate scientists debunking it as an example of the error that can be made in using a derivative to remove a trend, and then claiming that you have somehow ‘explained’ the trend you removed!

Tom in Florida
January 30, 2013 7:25 am

The success of the CAGW crowd is based on their proper application of Sales 101. People buy on emotion and “what’s in it for me”, not on facts and logic. (that’s also why Republicans lose national elections). The old axiom “you don’t sell the steak, you sell the sizzle” describes the reason why so many false ideas can be sold to the public even when they are based only on beliefs rather than sound science. Presenting a warming climate as dangerous and something to avoid at all costs has tapped into the ignorance and doomsday mentality of the general public. Then you convince those same people that they can actually have a hand in saving themselves by jumping on the band wagon and applying political pressure. Now add in a compliant media that will support any idea that puts them in a position to make money, who knowingly takes full advantage of confirmation bias in that people will watch and read anything that agrees with their own point of view. And there you have it, a successful campaign.
Warming is a good thing, it is far better than cooling. We must continue that approach, convincing the public that cooling would be a condition that must be avoided. You must believe it in order to sell it. Whether we can prevent another glacial period or not is irrelevant, it only matters that we stop the insanity of bankrupting ourselves in a hopeless attempt to fix a non problem.

oldfossil
January 30, 2013 7:28 am

To add some new material to the debate I’d like to discuss James Lovelock, famous or notorious author of The Revenge of Gaia. He has said that:
– Before reaching the age of 70, 30 per cent of humans will die of cancer, and the main cause of cancer is breathing oxygen.
– Nuclear is the only viable short-term solution to the energy crisis.
– Wind power is no solution at all.
– Methane sulfonic acid (MSA) in the atmosphere is the chief determinant of cloud cover and thus albedo and its effects dwarf those of carbon dioxide. (Lovelock calls the sulfur cycle his greatest discovery.)
– Droughts in the corn belt of the USA are caused by deforestation in the Amazon basin.
– On criticisms of Gaia: A New Look at Life on Earth: “The biologists were the worst. They spoke against Gaia with the kind of dogmatic certainty I hadn’t heard since Sunday School. At least the geologists offered criticisms based on their interpretation of the facts.”
– “They could not prove us wrong but were sure in their hearts that we were.”
– “I am not a doomwatch sort of person.”
– On why the Nimbus 7 ozone observations were rejected when they did not fit the model: “It was awful, absolutely awful. No way to do science.”
Perhaps we have been too enthusiastic in our demonization of this scientific giant?

Robert Clemenzi
January 30, 2013 7:32 am

I disagree with the following –

that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and warms the lower atmosphere

I agree that CO2 absorbs infrared radiation, and that more CO2 will absorb more radiation. But stopping there leads to the wrong conclusion.
The atmosphere obtains heat from 3 sources – convection, evaporation, and radiation. However, since the only way it looses heat is via radiation, it follows that increasing CO2 in the atmosphere must release more heat than it absorbs. Therefore, increasing CO2 cools the lower atmosphere.
Of course, some of this extra heat returns to the surface and should cause its temperature to increase. However, because the atmosphere will be cooler than it was before the extra CO2 was added, the increase in surface temperature will be less than the IPCC claims. Also, if that extra heat is converted into convection and evaporation, the net change (sensitivity) is close to zero. Depending on the absolute humidity (number of water molecules in the atmosphere) and the daily insolation, increasing CO2 can actually cause the surface temperature to decrease.

JohnWho
January 30, 2013 7:35 am

Most excellent posting and the contributions by Richard S. Courtney are much appreciated.
Too bad most of the brainwashed masses, including President Obama, will not read it.

janets
January 30, 2013 7:38 am

Beautiful, just beautiful 🙂
*bookmarks*

Vince Causey
January 30, 2013 7:41 am

Izen says:
“There are a number of tried and tested methods for assessing the credibility of any scientific researcher.
The number of papers published in the field, how recent those papers are, the quality of the journal in which they are published and how often they are cited by others.”
Based on that, then Richard Lindzen has even more credibility, and he’s a skeptic. Oh wait – it only counts if you are “of the faith.”

rogerknights
January 30, 2013 7:42 am

PS: “That DAWG won’t hunt.”

Vince Causey
January 30, 2013 7:44 am

Izen says:
“An old canard. The season changes in CO2 are related to differences in the biosphere between the north and south hemispheres. The ice age cycle is initiated by orbital changes,”
The truth is we don’t know what initiates and ends glaications. If we did, we would be able to predict the beginning of the next one in the same way we could predict whether a particular asteroid will strike the Earth. If we don’t know how ice ages start and end, then we don’t understand climate very well at all, and your comments are pure hubris.

January 30, 2013 7:45 am

izen:
Your post at January 30, 2013 at 7:10 am is silly. In the absence of any flaws in Carter’s arguments you try to demean Carter by saying he is no better a scientist than Hayhoe.
As I have told you in the past, the number of a scientist’s publications indicates nothing about the value and merit of the scientist’s work. Quality of the published work indicates the value of thge work.
A tonne of bovine excrement is not worth one gram of a diamond.
What has Hayhoe done which matches the work of Carter on sub-sea cores?
Nothing (and you know it).
Carter is retired so he has not published as much as Hayhoe recently. And you assert that means she is a more credible scientist than Carter? Even you should be capable of seeing why you are wrong about that.
And you admit that Carter has a higher citation index than Hayhoe. You try to get around that by saying some of those citations are challenges of Carter. Well, if that were true then it would demonstrate that many scientists consider Carter’s work to be so important that it is worth the effort of challenging it.
Simply, citation index shows Hayhoe is in a lower scientific league than Carter, and your post admits it.
Stop playing the man and try to play the ball. You will lose if you play either, but playing the man is egregious.
Richard

RobW
January 30, 2013 7:55 am

Excellent book Dr. Carter. Now if I could only get scientists I know to read it they could learn about the faulty science of CAGW they support.

NikFromNYC
January 30, 2013 7:55 am

[The models are clearly faulty, and allocate too great a warming effect for the extra carbon dioxide (technically, they are said to overestimate the climate sensitivity).]
They actually over-estimate the amount of positive water vapor feedback in response to any type of warming and the real disagreement isn’t over CO2 warming which represents long standing science but with these brand new computer model assumptions that very much are not established science. The claim that skepticism in the main goes against greenhouse theory itself has successfully made skeptics the objects of ridicule.

January 30, 2013 7:56 am

In light Dr. Carter’s analysis, it struck me that governments can use AGW as an out for their failures regarding emergency response to disasters.
Taking Hurricane Sandy as an example, it may appear that the US government would have been prepared for a “regular” or natural storm but how can anyone be prepared for a climate change-fueled super storm?

Vince Causey
January 30, 2013 8:02 am

Izen says:
“The obvious evidence for the exceptionality of the present warming is on the lack of past sea level rise during those historical extremes compared to the thmal expansion of the oceans seen now.”
How can we possibly know the rates of sea level rises in previous interglacials? And if you are describing only the warm periods that occurred in the holocene, then the answer to why the sea levels weren’t as high is because there were more glaciers then.
In order to help your understanding, let me explain that at the end of the last ice age, there were lots of ice sheets. As a result, there was less water in the oceans, and this made sea levels very low. These ice sheets gradually retreated over millenia, causing more water to return to the oceans and sea levels to rise.
Did you know that you could once walk between southern England and France? Do you honestly think that the reason that you can’t walk across today is because of the “thermal expansion of the oceans?”

Steve Keohane
January 30, 2013 8:08 am

mpcraig says:January 30, 2013 at 7:56 am
In light Dr. Carter’s analysis, it struck me that governments can use AGW as an out for their failures regarding emergency response to disasters.

Reminds me of a poster often found in our engineering dep’t: “A lack of planning on your part, does not create a crisis on my part.