Matt Ridley: A Lukewarmer's Ten Tests

What it would take to persuade me that current climate policy makes sense

Guest post by Matt Ridley

Matt Ridley
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I have written about climate change and energy policy for more than 25 years. I have come to the conclusion that current energy and climate policy is probably more dangerous, both economically and ecologically, than climate change itself. This is not the same as arguing that climate has not changed or that mankind is not partly responsible. That the climate has changed because of man-made carbon dioxide I fully accept. What I do not accept is that the change is or will be damaging, or that current policy would prevent it.

For the benefit of supporters of climate change policy who feel frustrated by the reluctance of people like me to accept their assurances, here is what they would need to do to change my mind.

1. I need persuading that the urban heat island effect has been fully purged from the surface temperature record. Satellites are showing less warming than the surface thermometers, and there is evidence that local warming of growing cities, and poor siting of thermometers, is still contaminating the global record. I also need to be convinced that the adjustments made by those who compile the global temperature records are justified. Since 2008 alone, NASA has added about 0.1C of warming to the trend by unexplained “adjustments” to old records. It is not reassuring that one of the main surface temperature records is produced by an extremist prepared to get himself arrested (James Hansen).

2. Despite these two contaminating factors, the temperature trend remains modest: not much more than 0.1 C per decade since 1979. So I would need persuading that water vapour will amplify CO2’s effect threefold in the future but has not done so yet. This is what the models assume despite evidence that clouds formed from water vapour are more likely to moderate than amplify any warming.

3. Nor am I convinced that sulphate aerosols and ocean heat uptake can explain the gap between model predictions and actual observations over the last 34 years. Both are now well understood and provide insufficient excuse for such an underperformance. Negative cloud feedback, leading to total feedbacks being modest, is the more plausible explanation.

4. The one trend that has been worse than expected – Arctic sea ice – is plausibly explained by black carbon (soot), not carbon dioxide. Soot from dirty diesel engines and coal-fired power stations is now reckoned to be a far greater factor in climate change than before; it is a short-lived pollutant, easily dealt with by local rather than global action. So you would need to persuade me that this finding, by explaining some recent climate change, does not further reduce the likely sensitivity of the atmosphere to carbon dioxide. Certainly, it “buys time”.

5. Even the Met Office admits that the failure of the models to predict the temperature standstill of the last 16 years is evidence that natural factors can match man-made ones. We now know there is nothing unprecedented about the level and rate of change of temperature today compared with Medieval, Roman, Holocene Optimum and other post-glacial periods, when carbon dioxide levels did not change significantly, but temperatures did. I would need persuading that natural factors cannot continue to match man-made ones.

6. Given that we know that the warming so far has increased global vegetation cover, increased precipitation, lengthened growing seasons, cause minimal ecological change and had no impact on extreme weather events, I need persuading that future warming will be fast enough and large enough to do net harm rather than net good. Unless water-vapour-supercharged, the models suggest a high probability of temperatures changing less than 2C, which almost everybody agrees will do net good.

7. Nor is it clear that ecosystems and people will fail to adapt, for there is clear evidence that adaptation has already vastly reduced damage from the existing climate – there has been a 98% reduction in the probability of death from drought, flood or storm since the 1920s, for example, and malaria retreated rapidly even as the temperature rose during the twentieth century.

8. So I cannot see why this relatively poor generation should bear the cost of damage that will not become apparent until the time of a far richer future generation, any more than people in 1900 should have borne sacrifices to make people today slightly richer. Or why today’s poor should subsidise, through their electricity bills, today’s rich who receive

subsidies for wind farms, which produce less than 0.5% of the country’s energy.

9. Indeed I will need persuading that dashing to renewables can cut emissions rather than make them worse; this is by no means certain given that the increased use of bioenergy, such as wood or corn ethanol, driven by climate policies, is indeed making them worse.11 Meanwhile shale gas use in the USA has led to a far greater cut in emissions than

any other technology, yet it is opposed every step of the way by climate alarmists.

10. Finally, you might make the argument that even a very small probability of a very large and dangerous change in the climate justifies drastic action. But I would reply that a very small probability of a very large and dangerous effect from the adoption of large-scale

renewable energy, reduced economic growth through carbon taxes or geo-engineering also justifies extreme caution. Pascal’s wager cuts both ways.

At the moment, it seems highly likely that the cure is worse than disease.

We are taking chemotherapy for a cold.

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Joe Prins
January 28, 2013 2:57 pm

“That the climate has changed because of man-made carbon dioxide I fully accept.”
Sir,
If it can be assumed that the Co2 rise of the last 60 years can be attributed to mankind, fine.
The number that keeps sticking in my mind though is the 2.9% that is attributable to anthropogenic emissions. If the last number is correct, then you can provide proof of the chemical reactions but to prove that the warming is due to the “2.9%” would have to be very rigorous indeed.
Also, see previous blog regarding “waste heat”.
Under (7), what about the probability of death due to cold? Seems lukewarmers have some difficulty in remembering “cold” weather. The hundreds who have already died in east Europe as well as the northern parts of Asia this winter would not appreciate this neglect.
Sorry, sir, but it seems to me that you have draped the “lukewarmer” moniker on yourself a long time ago and then failed to check your premises since.

Greg House
January 28, 2013 3:11 pm

Guest post by Matt Ridley: “That the climate has changed because of man-made carbon dioxide I fully accept. … 1. I need persuading that the urban heat island effect has been fully purged from the surface temperature record. … I also need to be convinced that the adjustments made by those who compile the global temperature records are justified. … 2. Despite these two contaminating factors, …”
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I am afraid I can sense an internal contradiction here. How can you “fully accept” this “global warming” thing despite “these two contaminating factors” you are aware of?
Another thing is, being aware of “these two contaminating factors” should have prompted you to look deeper in the very methods of calculations of the “global warming”. I doubt that you have ever done that. They assign temperatures or temperature trends to large areas and “reconstruct” temperatures for periods of time without measurements, how do you like that?

Neville Wright
January 28, 2013 3:13 pm

Have have not been able to sufficiently articulate my sceptism for CC (GW) up till now, but Matt has done that for me, thank you Matt.

manicbeancounter
January 28, 2013 3:17 pm

I would add another point.
Any large scale project requires effective management to achieve the planned objectives. Even if there was a demonstrable enormous potential problem and and a set of appropriate policies implemented that is theoretically capable of combating that problem, without detailed project management huge amounts of money can be expended without getting any desired results.
Matt Ridley’s allusion to the medical sphere – of taking chemotherapy for a cold – can be extended further. There is a diagnosis of the early stages of an entirely new disease. We only have a vague idea of how severe this disease might develop, with little attempt to revise downwards the initial diagnosis following a distinct lack of distinctive strong signs of progress of the disease. The symptoms are faint, and evidence that they might belong to the normal variations of life is ignored. The treatments are untested, possibly ineffective, and have emerging debilitating and painful side effects. Yet the professionals ignore these signals. Furthermore the prescribers have scant regard for dosage, and do not monitor the progress of the patient.

richardscourtney
January 28, 2013 3:26 pm

Julian Flood:
At January 28, 2013 at 1:52 pm you ask concerning geographical spread of night-time temperatures.

What’s going on there? Why the blip just off the Rhine?

I would expect it. Nitrates and phosphates from the land are conveyed to the North Sea by the Rhine. They fertilise phytoplankton in the sea with resulting increase to DMS (dimethylsulphide) emission from the sea surface. The DMS breaks down under the action of UV in the atmosphere to form sulphate cloud nuclei which alters cloud cover. Clouds affect surface temperature. (I worked on this alteration to the sulphur cycle in the 1980s).
Richard

Dreadnought
January 28, 2013 3:35 pm

“The one trend that has been worse than expected – Arctic sea ice – is plausibly explained by black carbon (soot), not carbon dioxide.”
Also, in August 2012 there was The Great Arctic Cyclone, which tore across the sea ice and smashed it up & shifted it about pretty good – for over a week.
I know there are other forces at work over the long-term, but I’m jus’ sayin’!

Robert of Ottawa
January 28, 2013 3:36 pm

A very reasonable piece. I go further, on the skeptic scale myself, but Matt Ridley provides a very reasonable position.

Konrad
January 28, 2013 3:37 pm

Phillip Bratby says:
January 28, 2013 at 2:26 pm
“Are you sure it doesn’t speed up the escape of infrared? Perhaps by colliding with N and O molecules, CO2 can take some of their energy and radiate it to space?”
———————————————————————————————————–
What?! The ability of CO2 to intercept surface IR is in inverse logarithmic function of its concentration in the atmosphere? The ability of CO2 to radiate any energy acquired by the atmosphere is a linear function of its concentration in the atmosphere?? CO2 cools???
Heresy! Silence!! Silence unbeliever!!!
/sarc

Rob
January 28, 2013 3:42 pm

Mosher, you say, ” Or i could just ask matt how more soot means more ice in the south pole.”
Steve, knowing that the majority is produced in the northern hemisphere coupled with understanding with the jet stream, some would ask you why you would not expect more ice in the SP.

Robert of Ottawa
January 28, 2013 3:44 pm

Konrad,
The “basic physics” of AGW does not appear sound.
I’ve always had this suspicion that the AGW “basic physics” is a bit like Zeno’s Arrow Paradox because that downwelling LR is absorbed and half reflected back up, ad infinitum; assuming a spherical horse. A situation for which there is a simple mathematical solution. Of course, this produces a miniscule amount of warming and so magical positive feedbacks are brought into play.

Gail Combs
January 28, 2013 3:45 pm

James Cross says:
January 28, 2013 at 1:09 pm
….. The biggest issue to me is that increasingly future greenhouse gases will come from the underdeveloped world….
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Actually the US has less CO2 emissions than the underdeveloped world according to JAXA, the Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency, Greenhouse Gas Observation Satellite ‘IBUKI’ link
The August 2012 MAP
This may be due to the fact the USA has much better agriculture (we now grow twice as much on the same acreage) and especially in the east we manage our forests as long term “crops” Young trees “eat” more CO2 compared to older forests. In the far west lumbering unfortunately has been stopped reulting in more wildfires and less CO2 sequestering.

AlecM
January 28, 2013 3:49 pm

At the risk of boring people I would like to point out yet again the serious mistakes in the physics of Climate Alchemy. These people have constructed a scientific cock and bull story. The main error is to fail to understand that the signal from a single pyrgeometer is the potential energy per unit time per unit area that the emitter could transfer to the Vacuum Energy, the zero point energy of space. This is a fancy way of saying it would have to be an isolated emitter in a vacuum..
Ramanathan uses the clear sky atmospheric greenhouse factor, the difference between the temperature radiation field of the Earth’s surface and the OLR = 157.5 W/m^2. 134.5 W/m^2 of this is imaginary, the artefact of incorrect boundary conditions, so must be discounted. Thus the rate of accumulation of heat energy in the lower atmosphere is multiplied by a factor of 5.1.leading to the imaginary positive feedback.
Because heating rate is near zero, they have had to invent a cooling factor from polluted clouds. They do this by cheating yet again, using doubled real low level cloud optical depth in the hind casting.

AlecM
January 28, 2013 3:50 pm

PS None of the 23 W/m^2 average IR absorption by the atmosphere is CO2 band energy.

Robert of Ottawa
January 28, 2013 3:51 pm

OK what’s all about this spherical horse?
An accountant, a statistician and a physicist are at the horse races, making bets, having a beer and generally enjoyning a day at the races. Discussion turns to the next race, an who can predict the next winner.
The statistician talks of form, past records and admits that, although he cannot predict exactly the winner, he’s sure that his chosen horse would not come last.
The accountant talks of handicap, track conditions, various strengths of the participants and the record of the jockies. He’s pretty sure that he can chose the winner 50% of the time, but each bet is a crap shoot.
The physicist states categorically that he can predict the winner, assuming a spherical horse.

Katherine
January 28, 2013 3:56 pm

Re 4. The one trend that has been worse than expected – Arctic sea ice – is plausibly explained by black carbon (soot), not carbon dioxide.
First, wasn’t it last year that the Arctic was supposed to be ice-free already? I seem to remember a countdown for that particular prediction. Yet despite the storm that broke up the ice, the Arctic wasn’t ice-free, so how is that worse than expected? They keep moving the goalposts.
And second, low sea ice conditions in the Arctic aren’t unprecedented, even in the historical past.
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/historic-variation-in-arctic-ice-tony-b/
And there were no dirty diesel engines back then. There’s evidence that the Arctic might have been periodically ice-free in the past, but sea ice has since rebounded.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/09/08/inconvenient-ice-study-less-ice-in-the-arctic-ocean-6000-7000-years-ago/

NetDr
January 28, 2013 4:02 pm

Since temperatures according to even Dr Hansen himself the alarmists have switched to extreme weather for their FEAR !
Simply stated there is no indication of a trend toward extreme weather.
in fact according to thermodynamics CO2 spreads the heat making storms MILDER !
I see little ention of this in skeptical literature ! Why is that ?

January 28, 2013 4:06 pm

Very good Sir,thank you
Alfred

Matthew R Marler
January 28, 2013 4:08 pm

rgbatduke: I would add that a synthesis of all of these questions constitutes yet another point independent of the points themselves standing alone. In total, they suggest that we are remarkably ignorant about the correct solution to a highly complex problem, with new discoveries (such as the black soot discovery) arising with some regularity, each of them a potential game changer, usually (given flat temperatures) in the direction of less warming and cause for alarm, not more.
I thought so too. Paraphrasing a well-known refrain, The whole is less than the sum of its parts.
I think the “lukewarmer” appellation comes from the acceptance that CO2 can absorb upwelling long-wave IR radiation, so there is a naive “model” that increased CO2 will produce a decreased radiant cooling rate and higher resultant surface and near surface temperatures. That is a pretty naive theory, however, even when elaborated in texts such as Pierrehumbert’s. A survey of all the knowledge of all the heat and mass transfer processes throughout the system shows that the naive theory is too simple. His essay highlights the holes in the knowledge.

LKMiller
January 28, 2013 4:10 pm

Gail Combs says:
January 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm
“This may be due to the fact the USA has much better agriculture (we now grow twice as much on the same acreage) and especially in the east we manage our forests as long term “crops” Young trees “eat” more CO2 compared to older forests. In the far west lumbering unfortunately has been stopped reulting in more wildfires and less CO2 sequestering.”
Ummmm….not exactly.
Forest management has been stopped on federal forests in the west (National Forests and BLM) which, depending on the state can be more than half of the total forested land. This is a crime, and amounts to mal-practice and theft of the people’s natural resources. If you live in the east, imagine what it would be like to have half or more of the ground controlled by interests 2-3000 miles away.
However, forest management and timber harvesting continues on private timber lands, and also on those managed by the states.

Matthew R Marler
January 28, 2013 4:26 pm

Konrad: At the time many thought that this was just so no fault could be found with GCMs. But reviewing today one of the threads from 2010 –
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/weight-of-water-and-wind-hurricane-pros-weigh-in/
– the fierce opposition can also be seen to be an attempt to suppress any discussion of water vapour radiating IR to space making rising moist air masses less than wholly adiabatic.

I am glad you wrote that. “Adiabatic” anythings are simplifying approximations that enable solutions to be found that may be at least approximately correct to first order. How accurate the “adiabatic lapse rate” and “moist adiabatic lapse rate” really are compared to the measured lapse rates in many varying localities with different winds and surface water is seldom explored (this is an invitation to people to direct me to where such comparisons are made explicitly.) The standard AGW presentations are full of such approximations, and the net effect of the aggregated inaccuracies entailed in all of the approximations can’t be estimated very accurately. That’s one of the reasons I wrote above that “The whole is less than the sum of the parts.”

January 28, 2013 4:35 pm

Phillip Bratby says: Are you sure CO2 can slow the escape of infrared? Are you sure it doesn’t speed up the escape of infrared? Perhaps by colliding with N and O molecules, CO2 can take some of their energy and radiate it to space?
We are not in such a disagreement. CO2 can absorb escaping infrared. When it re-radiates that infrared half continues to outer space the other half is redirected downward just as water vapor does. In the winter I can always tell a cloudy night will be warmer than a clear night due to the greenhouse effect. In that limited arena, the physics are sound and it is not the battleground that sceptics should challenge. As I said, the question is how does CO2 affect climate. I think CO2’s contribution is real but trivial. The tropics are warming the least despite the thickest layer of CO2 and the most warmth that elevates infrared radiation. In contrast the coldest areas show the most warming despite the thinnest layer of CO2 and the least amount of infrared. I believe most of climate change is due to the redistribution of heat via ocean oscillations and land surface changes the alter vertical convection and the inversion layer. Most of the warming in polar regions is due to heat escaping from warm waters when winds sweep away the ice, not added warmth from CO2. Those natural variation are what need to be emphasized. So why challenge CO2’s ability to redirect infrared?

Arno Arrak
January 28, 2013 4:39 pm

In some ways he reminds me of Bjørn Lomborg – they both see the wrongs perpetrated by the global warming movement yet stubbornly refuse to stop believing that carbon dioxide is warming up the world. During Stalin’s purges there were communist sympathizers in America who knew about them yet did not give up their belief in the superiority of communism over capitalism. Clearly talking to Ridley or Lomborg about the irrationality of global warming policies is not going to change their minds. They think the science is there and only disagree about what should be done about it. I will demonstrate two things below. First, that there is not now and there never has been any anthropogenic greenhouse warming. And second, that the theory of greenhouse warming that is imputed to have caused warming is completely false. To demonstrate the first thesis we must know the current and recent temperature history of the world. In researching this for some years now I have determined that temperature records given to us have been falsified in various ways to make us believe in a non-existent warming. There has been much talk about the distortion caused by the Urban Heat Island effect but in the big picture it pales into insignificance when you realize that an eighteen year standstill in warming is papered over by a non-existent “Late Twentieth Century Warming.” This has worked itself into temperature curves from the hockey stick to Müller’s BEST temperatures. It shows a steep rise in the eighties and nineties that does not exist. But let’s start from the situation now and work our way back. First, according to the Met Office, there has not been any warming at all for the last 16 years. That has made people like Hansen unhappy and they have come out with lies to question it. His claim is that the years 2005 and 2010 share the honor of being the warmest years in history. Checking satellite data I find this claim to be a complete lie. The year 2005 is indistinguishable from other years of the first decade of this century. The year 2010 is an El Nino peak year but it still is not as high as the super El Nino of 1998 which remains highest. The twenty-first century began with a seven year flat temperature platform, the twenty-first century high. This platform exists because the huge amount of warm water the super El Nino of 1998 had carried across the ocean. It has became the new normal for the twenty-first century. The next La Nina after it appeared in 2008 and was followed by the 2010 El Nino. For an ENSO oscillation the mean temperature is determined by the center point between an El Nino peak and the bottom of its neighboring La Nina valley. And the center point between the 2008 La Nina and the 2010 El Nino lines up exactly with the level of the twenty-first century high. Which means that the alleged warming from 2005 and 2010 has not had any influence on global temperature as Hansen would have us believe. While global temperature stalled for 16 years carbon dioxide kept on going up. It is quite obvious that it is not causing any warming. In 2007 IPCC AR4 had predicted from greenhouse theory that warming in the twenty-first century shall proceed at the rate of 0.2 degrees per decade. We are now in the second decade of this century and there is no sign of this predicted warming. This alone is sufficient to consign the greenhouse theory to the scrap heap of history. But there is more. The satellite temperature record shows that from 1979 to early 1997 there was nothing but a series of ENSO oscillations, El Ninos with La Ninas in between. There were five El Nino peaks in this interval. If you put dots in the middle of each line connecting an El Nino peak and its neighboring La Nina valley these dots line up in a straight horizontal line, eighteen years long. This determines the mean temperature of the ENSO oscillation. And tells us that for eighteen years, from 1979 to 1997, there was no warming at all. It was followed by the super El Nino of 1998. That super El Nino brought so much warm water across the ocean with it that it caused a step warming. In four years global temperature rose by a third of a degree Celsius and then stopped. There has been no warming since then and there was none before it as we saw. And since it is completely impossible for greenhouse warming to generate any step warming we can say with confidence that there has been no greenhouse warming at all during the 33 years of satellite observations. But what about the years before satellites? Records show that there was no warming for at least 26 years in the fifties, sixties and seventies. And people then were not worried about warming but feared another ice age, and magazines had articles about it. But say this to Hansen and he will tell you that it really was a warming period except that aerosols from war production must have blocked out the sun! The short stretch of 1976 to 1979 connects it to satellite observations. It is taken up by another step warming, this time caused by the Great Pacific Climate Shift which is said to have raised global temperature by 0.2 degrees Celsius. But there was actual steady warming in the early part of the century which is mostly neglected. It started suddenly in 1910 and stopped even more suddenly in 1940. Laws of physics dictate that if you want ro start greenhouse warming suddenly you must increase the amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide equally suddenly. That is because the infrared absorbance of carbon dioxide is a property of the gas and cannot be changed. We know for sure that there was no sudden increase of carbon dioxide in 1910 which rules out greenhouse warming as a cause. It is also impossible for a greenhouse warming to stop as suddenly as happened in 1940. That is when World War II cooling appeared out of nowhere. If you lived then you would have known that the Finnish Winter War of 1939/1940 was fought at minus forty Celsius and that German tanks in front of Moscow were frozen in their tracks. We almost have the twentieth century covered. The first ten years of the century were cooling, not warming. And World War II cooling gradually warmed up by 1950. In the forties there were still blizzards around and one of them, the blizzard of 1947, completely shut down the City of New York. If your global temperature chart shows a heat wave there you should demand a refund. Everything I said about temperature above is a matter of public record that you can check out yourself. It all adds up to this conclusion: there has been no greenhouse warming for the last 100 years. And probably there was none at any time. How is this possible? you may ask. Ferenc Miskolczi has the answer. In 2010 he used NOAA weather balloon database to measure the absorption of long-wave radiation by the atmosphere and determined that it had been constant for 61 years. At the same time the amount of carbon dioxide in the air increased by 21.6 percent. According to the greenhouse theory of warming the addition of this substantial amount of CO2 to the atmosphere should have shown up as absorption but nothing happened. I hope I don’t need to remind you that the absorption is necessary to produce that warming. With this, the greenhouse theory of global warming is dead. And the anthropogenic theory of global warming is likewise dead. But there is one more detail that you should know to make things clear. All those predictions of dangerous greenhouse warming from IPCC did not come from the original theory of Arrhenius. That is because if you follow Arrhenius and calculate the sensitivity of carbon dioxide to doubling you find it is 1.1 degrees Celsius. This is not enough to frighten anybody so IPCC decided to bring in water vapor as a helper. The argument is as follows. First, carbon dioxide warms the air. Warm air can hold more water vapor and the greenhouse effect of this additional water vapor gets added to the original warming from carbon dioxide. They call this positive water vapor feedback. Their computers tell us that it can triple or more the original warming from carbon dioxide. And that is how these dangerous warming predictions orig
inate. But Miskolczi theory maintains that the opposite is true: that water vapor, instead of boosting the warming from carbon dioxide, actually retards it. In other words, water vapor feedback is negative, not positive. That is why they hate Miskolczi so much and keep telling everyone that his theory is wrong. Well, his theory is not wrong as proven by data collected by NOAA over the years. This is empirical science and it overrides any conclusions derived from pure theory that don’t agree with it. Most specifically, it overrides predictions of warming used as justification for passing emission control laws. These laws have been passed under false premises and must be voided.

JamesS
January 28, 2013 4:41 pm

Since we only have the Mauna Loa CO2 records going back to the 1950’s, how can we possibly know the percentage of the rise since then that is man-made and what is natural as a result of the warming oceans giving off CO2 like a can of soda left out on the counter top?
I’ve heard the figure that only 5% of the annual CO2 is human-caused, but I’ve never found a good source for that claim. Does one actually exist?

Toto
January 28, 2013 4:42 pm

For the benefit of supporters of climate change policy who feel frustrated by the reluctance of people like me to accept their assurances, here is what they would need to do to change my mind.

They don’t need to convince you, they just need to shout you down or convince others you are a fool. The “climate science” of the alarmists doesn’t need to be correct, it just needs to fool the masses. It’s all politics now.

kirk USA
January 28, 2013 4:44 pm

Hello, Matt…
I thought enough of your writings that I sent it out to all my friends (skeptics and believers, alike). Here is what I wrote:
OK, those of you who know me know that I think the AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming) or ACC (Anthropogenic Climate Change- which covers everything from warming to cooling to hurricanes to tornadoes to earthquakes to… oh, never mind) is a hoax, a fraud, a serious combination of superstition and arrogance.
All right, not everyone goes along with me on this. This is a missive by a guy who has kept an open mind, but explains why he needs to be convinced that we need to sacrifice our economy in order to save the planet. I thought it was interesting enough to send it on… I hope you will read this and consider…
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/28/matt-ridley-a-lukewarmers-ten-tests/#more-78324
BTW, I STILL think that AGW or ACC is a hoax, a fraud, a- oh, you get what I mean…