What it would take to persuade me that current climate policy makes sense
Guest post by Matt Ridley

I have written about climate change and energy policy for more than 25 years. I have come to the conclusion that current energy and climate policy is probably more dangerous, both economically and ecologically, than climate change itself. This is not the same as arguing that climate has not changed or that mankind is not partly responsible. That the climate has changed because of man-made carbon dioxide I fully accept. What I do not accept is that the change is or will be damaging, or that current policy would prevent it.
For the benefit of supporters of climate change policy who feel frustrated by the reluctance of people like me to accept their assurances, here is what they would need to do to change my mind.
1. I need persuading that the urban heat island effect has been fully purged from the surface temperature record. Satellites are showing less warming than the surface thermometers, and there is evidence that local warming of growing cities, and poor siting of thermometers, is still contaminating the global record. I also need to be convinced that the adjustments made by those who compile the global temperature records are justified. Since 2008 alone, NASA has added about 0.1C of warming to the trend by unexplained “adjustments” to old records. It is not reassuring that one of the main surface temperature records is produced by an extremist prepared to get himself arrested (James Hansen).
2. Despite these two contaminating factors, the temperature trend remains modest: not much more than 0.1 C per decade since 1979. So I would need persuading that water vapour will amplify CO2’s effect threefold in the future but has not done so yet. This is what the models assume despite evidence that clouds formed from water vapour are more likely to moderate than amplify any warming.
3. Nor am I convinced that sulphate aerosols and ocean heat uptake can explain the gap between model predictions and actual observations over the last 34 years. Both are now well understood and provide insufficient excuse for such an underperformance. Negative cloud feedback, leading to total feedbacks being modest, is the more plausible explanation.
4. The one trend that has been worse than expected – Arctic sea ice – is plausibly explained by black carbon (soot), not carbon dioxide. Soot from dirty diesel engines and coal-fired power stations is now reckoned to be a far greater factor in climate change than before; it is a short-lived pollutant, easily dealt with by local rather than global action. So you would need to persuade me that this finding, by explaining some recent climate change, does not further reduce the likely sensitivity of the atmosphere to carbon dioxide. Certainly, it “buys time”.
5. Even the Met Office admits that the failure of the models to predict the temperature standstill of the last 16 years is evidence that natural factors can match man-made ones. We now know there is nothing unprecedented about the level and rate of change of temperature today compared with Medieval, Roman, Holocene Optimum and other post-glacial periods, when carbon dioxide levels did not change significantly, but temperatures did. I would need persuading that natural factors cannot continue to match man-made ones.
6. Given that we know that the warming so far has increased global vegetation cover, increased precipitation, lengthened growing seasons, cause minimal ecological change and had no impact on extreme weather events, I need persuading that future warming will be fast enough and large enough to do net harm rather than net good. Unless water-vapour-supercharged, the models suggest a high probability of temperatures changing less than 2C, which almost everybody agrees will do net good.
7. Nor is it clear that ecosystems and people will fail to adapt, for there is clear evidence that adaptation has already vastly reduced damage from the existing climate – there has been a 98% reduction in the probability of death from drought, flood or storm since the 1920s, for example, and malaria retreated rapidly even as the temperature rose during the twentieth century.
8. So I cannot see why this relatively poor generation should bear the cost of damage that will not become apparent until the time of a far richer future generation, any more than people in 1900 should have borne sacrifices to make people today slightly richer. Or why today’s poor should subsidise, through their electricity bills, today’s rich who receive
subsidies for wind farms, which produce less than 0.5% of the country’s energy.
9. Indeed I will need persuading that dashing to renewables can cut emissions rather than make them worse; this is by no means certain given that the increased use of bioenergy, such as wood or corn ethanol, driven by climate policies, is indeed making them worse.11 Meanwhile shale gas use in the USA has led to a far greater cut in emissions than
any other technology, yet it is opposed every step of the way by climate alarmists.
10. Finally, you might make the argument that even a very small probability of a very large and dangerous change in the climate justifies drastic action. But I would reply that a very small probability of a very large and dangerous effect from the adoption of large-scale
renewable energy, reduced economic growth through carbon taxes or geo-engineering also justifies extreme caution. Pascal’s wager cuts both ways.
At the moment, it seems highly likely that the cure is worse than disease.
We are taking chemotherapy for a cold.
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Gary Hladik says:
February 3, 2013 at 7:17 pm
1.”I assume the two diagrams are not to scale, as the thermal conductivity of air at 40 degrees C is only about 12% greater than air at 0 degrees C.”
2. “Why is it extraordinary? We agree that the addition essentially redirects some of the surface radiation back to the surface. The extraordinary claim is that the added energy won’t warm the surface. I think we’ve reversed the null hypothesis here. :-)”
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gary,
In answer to 1.
No the arrows in the diagram are indicative and not to scale. If true to scale the arrows for IR intercepted and emitted by N2 and O2 would be less than a pixel in width. The reason for the difference in size to the two conduction arrows is due to the effect of gravity in a mobile gaseous atmosphere. This has not been correctly modelled in AGW calculations or in Dr. Roy Spencer’s work. The arrows represent conductive flux, energy transfer over time. It is important to note that conductive flux depends on temperature differential. At night gravity traps cool air close to the ground minimising conductive flux between the surface and atmospheric gases. Energy transferred from the atmosphere to the radiately cooled surface is limited to the speed of gas conduction in the atmosphere. During the day gravity moves cool air to the SW heated surface maximising conductive flux. Convection can still move the heated gases away from surface even in an atmosphere in which full convective circulation has stalled. Gravity creates a bias whereby the surface is more effective at conductively heating the atmosphere than it is at conductively cooling it.
You will note that this effect, easily proved empirically by the “two tubes” experiment posted above, has not been accounted for in AGW calculations. Dr. Spencer is in error claiming that a non radiative atmosphere will have a temperature set by Tav. Instead temperatures a hundred metres up may rise to close to surface Tmax.
In answer to 2.
Yes radiative gases in the atmosphere intercept outgoing surface IR. They emit some of this back to the surface. This can slow the cooling rate of materials that are not able to cool by transpiration or evaporation. Non vegetated land area like deserts is effected by this. However it is important to understand that most of the energy radiative gases in our atmosphere are emitting was not acquired by the atmosphere intercepting IR from the surface. Pat Frank further up thread had some difficulty with this concept.
“The extraordinary claim is that the added energy won’t warm the surface.” Gary, I have never made that claim. Indeed it should be very clear that I do accept that increased radiative gases will lead to reduced radiative cooling over un-vegetated land. Of course at less than 29% of earth’s surface this is largely irrelevant compared to the critical role radiative gases play in convective circulation. If convective circulation stalls the atmosphere heats. The empirical experiments I use to show this are simple and easily replicated. The claims I make are simple and direct –
– Those claiming a radiative GHE never modelled a moving atmosphere with depth and gravity.
– Without convective circulation below the tropopause our atmosphere will heat.
– radiative gases providing energy loss at altitude are critical for convective circulation below the tropopause.
– adding radiative gases to the atmosphere will not reduce its radiative cooling ability.
– radiative gases cool our atmosphere at all concentrations above 0.0ppm
The “radiative GHE” is quite simply the worst scientific blunder in the history of human scientific endeavour. I would take this further and say that a review the 2010 debate on the Makarieva discussion paper reveals that some of the defenders of the “Cause” have known that the hypothesis was junk for years. I find it very revealing that in the current discussion over at JC, now that paper has been accepted for publication, even when directly challenged the Knights of Consensus will not debate. Not even the “too stupid to waste time on” thing that David and Richard tried. Just silence. They know they got it wrong, they have known for years.
Konrad. says (February 3, 2013 at 10:22 pm): “Convection can still move the heated gases away from surface even in an atmosphere in which full convective circulation has stalled. Gravity creates a bias whereby the surface is more effective at conductively heating the atmosphere than it is at conductively cooling it.”
As I understand Dr. Spencer’s article, convection in an old non-radiating atmosphere is confined to a near-surface layer whose height is determined by the extent of nocturnal conductive cooling. Above that the atmosphere remains at about surface temperature.
“Dr. Spencer is in error claiming that a non radiative atmosphere will have a temperature set by Tav. Instead temperatures a hundred metres up may rise to close to surface Tmax.”
So if I understand correctly, you’re predicting the temp of a non-radiating atmosphere high over the poles would be about the same as surface temp at the equator, because the higher polar atmosphere is effectively insulated from the colder polar surface?
“Indeed it should be very clear that I do accept that increased radiative gases will lead to reduced radiative cooling over un-vegetated land.”
No, I meant that under a radiating atmosphere the downwelling IR is at all points and at all times added to the incident solar radiation, which is all that warms the surface under a non-radiating atmosphere. In that case it seems “extraordinary” to predict a lower surface temperature.
“- Those claiming a radiative GHE never modelled a moving atmosphere with depth and gravity.”
Out of curiosity, could you comment on Willis’s simplified model illustrated in Figure 4 of his “Steel Greenhouse” article?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/17/the-steel-greenhouse/
I’m guessing you’d increase the convection term (the orange up arrows) just for starters. Any chance you have a “corrected” diagram?
“I find it very revealing that in the current discussion over at JC, now that paper has been accepted for publication, even when directly challenged the Knights of Consensus will not debate. Not even the “too stupid to waste time on” thing that David and Richard tried. Just silence. They know they got it wrong, they have known for years.”
Well, that’s one interpretation. Another is that “they” know they’re right, and just won’t waste time on (as they see it) claims the moon landings were faked. 🙂 I confess to similar feelings whenever “slayers” show up on WUWT threads, but I have engaged on occasion just to explore their arguments.
Gary Hladik says:
February 5, 2013 at 12:18 am
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Would I comment on any of Willis’ work? I understand that WUWT still labours under the “Reign of Willis”. He claimed that DWIR could slow the cooling rate of the oceans. He lost to a roll of microwave safe cling-wrap. Way to go Willis. Out of his depth on a wet pavement? So far out of his depth the fish have lights on their noses!
I would agree with your comments about “slayers”, their physics is trash. Moon landings? Well I have only met and spoken with one Apollo astronaut, Harrison Schmitt. The geologist who flew on 17. This was years ago and we only very briefly discussed joint design for gas pressurised suits. I understand he is a climate sceptic now. Go figure.