Hansen and Karl to put on a "worse than we thought" event

From a press release, apparently the writer has no clue that the NASA GISS data is a derivative of the NOAA data, and thus the claim of “NASA and NOAA each independently produce a record of Earth’s surface temperatures…” is untrue. They then go on to talk about “how much agreement there is”. Only government climate science could be this ridiculous. – Anthony

NASA, NOAA to announce 2012 global temperature, climate conditions JAN. 15

WASHINGTON — U.S. government climate experts will announce new data on global temperature and precipitation conditions in 2012 during a news teleconference at 2 p.m. EST Tuesday, Jan. 15. NASA and NOAA scientists will discuss the new results and the year’s most significant weather and climate events.

NASA and NOAA each independently produce a record of Earth’s surface temperatures and changes based on historical observations over the land surface and oceans. Agreement between the two analyses, together with those produced by other countries, increases confidence in their accuracy. These analyses provide government, business and community leaders with critical data and information to make informed decisions.

The NASA and NOAA 2012 global temperature analyses will be issued in a news release one hour before the start of the teleconference.

Panelists for the teleconference include:

— James E. Hansen, director, NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, New York

— Thomas R. Karl, director, NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center, Asheville, N.C.

The briefing will be streamed live at:

http://www.nasa.gov/newsaudio

For more information about NASA programs, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov

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Christopher Flaherty

Office of Legislative and Intergovernmental Affairs

NASA Headquarters

202 358 5239

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John Trigge (in Oz)
January 14, 2013 7:46 pm

Meanwhile, in Oz, our ‘balanced reporting’ ABC are interviewing the likes of Rajendra Pachauri regarding the forthcoming adventure story, AR5. It was interesting that the ‘reporter’ asked for his opinions ‘as a climate scientist’ and RP said nothing to correct her misconception of his qualifications (I was expecting at least a “choo, choo, puff, puff, I am a railway engineer”).
The same ABC is speaking to our government funded CSIRO about the ‘record’ temps in Sydney without any reference to the likes of WUWT’s recent article “Global Warming?……. It was warmer in Sydney in 1790”.
‘Our ABC’ continues to show its bias for cAGW.

Chuck Nolan
January 14, 2013 7:55 pm

Mikey must be busy
cn

john robertson
January 14, 2013 8:22 pm

Tom Karl did science once.
Geophysical Research Letters Vol.16 NO.1 Pages 49-52; January 1989
Are Atmospheric Greenhouse effects apparent in the climate record of the contiguous USA ?
(1895-1987)
Hat tip to Neil Jordan at 11:59 WUWT NOAA SOTC for December 2012 2013/01/08.
Seems Thomas Karl was actually using data back then.

Climate Ace
January 14, 2013 10:07 pm

Caleb says:
January 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Stratospheric Warming Event currently occurring. In a few days, only hours, the temperatures up in the Stratosphere above the pole have shot up from “the lowest ever recorded” to the “highest ever recorded.”

Good pick up but I would be skeptical about asigning yet another short term weather temperature record to AGW, were I you. It is just as well that the sea ice extent and volume situation in the Arctic is absolutely normal.
OTOH, when you get three or four record hot temps for every record cold temp then you might want to start wondering why.

Climate Ace
January 14, 2013 10:17 pm

John Trigge (in Oz) says:
January 14, 2013 at 7:46 pm
Meanwhile, in Oz, our ‘balanced reporting’ ABC are interviewing the likes of Rajendra Pachauri regarding the forthcoming adventure story, AR5. It was interesting that the ‘reporter’ asked for his opinions ‘as a climate scientist’ and RP said nothing to correct her misconception of his qualifications (I was expecting at least a “choo, choo, puff, puff, I am a railway engineer”).
The same ABC is speaking to our government funded CSIRO about the ‘record’ temps in Sydney without any reference to the likes of WUWT’s recent article “Global Warming?……. It was warmer in Sydney in 1790″.
‘Our ABC’ continues to show its bias for cAGW.

Hi Aussie John Trigge!
It must be a coincidence because I was just feeling a mite skeptical about an article in today’s ‘The Australian’ newspaper with the headline, ‘Sea Rise Not Linked to Warming’. Somewhere or other in the article it appears to claim that sea level rise rates are static over some period or other. Fairly black and white stuff. Now here is the bit about why it is good to be skeptical about this sort of arrant rubbish: the author of the scientific article has been interviewed subsequently. He is quite specific: the study does link sea level rises to anthropogenic activity. He does state that sea level rise rates are increasing.
Now, it is fine to question the science behind the scientific report. Everyone should take, as a starting point, a skeptical stance. But lying about what was in a scientific article? That is a whole nuther thing entirely.
For those interested, ‘The Australian’ has a rich tradition of mis-reporting and mis-representing AGW science. It even managed to inform its readers that the behaviour of glaciers is ‘illogical’. You can see why it pays to be skeptical when reading anything in The Australian about AGW.

Steve B
January 15, 2013 1:19 am

Climate Ace says:
January 14, 2013 at 10:17 pm
Climate Ace showing his trollish ignorance again.

Ken Hall
January 15, 2013 1:25 am

I wonder if anyone will ask them why every global climate model failed to project the lack of global warming over the last 2 decades and the UK Met Office quietly dropping their old projections on Christmas Eve in favour of ones which show no warming? How can global warming be responsible for an increase in more extreme weather events, when there has been no global warming? Nor any increase in extreme weather events either?

Gail Combs
January 15, 2013 3:38 am

Bill H says:
January 14, 2013 at 7:19 pm
What… do we have to watch a rerun of Dumb and Dumber?
to bad its not the three stooges
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Al Gore just took the money and ran, I guess he is Mo.

Brian Johnson UK
January 15, 2013 4:01 am

UK Met Office needs to upgrade to some seaweed, a piece of string and a thin stick and they will get a more accurate result than our UK Tax Payers Indulgence of Millions of Pounds Sterling for a new, faster computer that so far has proved the Met Office standard Garbage in – Garbage out rule.

January 15, 2013 4:05 am

Related to the event: An open letter under the auspices of the Soviet-front Bulletin of Atomic “Scientists”. The usual Doomsday-clock crap, signed by all the usual Gaian wackos.
http://thebulletin.org/web-edition/features/open-letter-to-president-obama-the-time-the-doomsday-clock-five-minutes-to-midn

LazyTeenager
January 15, 2013 4:51 am

From a press release, apparently the writer has no clue that the NASA GISS data is a derivative of the NOAA data, and thus the claim of “NASA and NOAA each independently produce a record of Earth’s surface temperatures…” is untrue.
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Well does that mean they use the same raw data and process it differently. If so that would validate the analysis techniques but not exclude non-compensatable problems in the raw data itself.

Frank K.
January 15, 2013 5:58 am

“Hansen and Karl to put on a “worse than we thought” event…”
Two highly paid (six figure salaries each) government managers advocating for additional funding for their respective enterprises…bet they’re going to say something truly original and not in keeping with the global warming industry/establishment…yup…[yawn]

JC
January 15, 2013 6:12 am

If things started out as bad as claimed, and the only thing we ever find is that it’s worse than we thought, why aren’t we all dead yet?

Eliza
January 15, 2013 6:25 am

Another example of the absolute BS that is being published. Its a whole publishing industry now: “climate Biology”
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304401711003839

beng
January 15, 2013 7:11 am

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Caleb says:
January 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Rather than the wolves of winter being hemmed in up at the pole by a nice, round, “zonal” jet stream that circles the pole in a tidy manner, the jet stream develops fabulous southward loops, sometimes splitting the tidy round vortex around the pole into a dumbbell shape, and then into two separate vortexes that wander south, bringing the wolves of winter to climes far from the pole.
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Jan/Feb 1994 the polar vortex moved south to the eastern Great Lakes & produced record low temps there & southward. The power grid in the east US was at the breaking point. We don’t want a repeat…

John M
January 15, 2013 4:46 pm

Regarding my comment above at
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/14/hansen-and-karl-to-put-on-a-worse-than-we-thought-event/#comment-1198343
Looks like GISS has once again altered their data and the Station data now show only the “normal GISS upward adjustment”. When I posted the link two days ago, most recent temperatures were as much as 0.1 degree higher than shown on the Columbia graph. Now they are only about 0.03-0.05 higher (I’ll refrain from referring to the clever embezzler who only pilfers enough to not set off alarm bells.)
Still, the Columbia graph shows only 4 station points at 0,75 deg or above while the new data show ten points at 0.75 or above.
Looks like the land/ocean values are a tad higher too.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
Give Hansen a few more years and he’ll get up to Scenario B yet.