UPDATE: The Russian TV channel “RT” aka “TV-Novosti” blames Monckton for the failure of COP18 to fail to reach an agreement:
The 18th Climate Change Summit in Doha is drawing to an end after once again failing to find common consensus on what it calls a major threat to human existence. Failure seemed inevitable after climate skeptic Lord Monckton crashed the event.
LOL! Source here
From Christopher Monckton of Brenchley in Doha, Qatar
I have been a bad boy. At the U.N. climate conference in Doha, I addressed a plenary session of national negotiating delegates though only accredited as an observer.
One just couldn’t resist. There they all were, earnestly outbidding each other to demand that the West should keep them in pampered luxury for the rest of their indolent lives, and all on the pretext of preventing global warming that has now become embarrassingly notorious for its long absence.
No one was allowed to give the alternative – and scientifically correct – viewpoint. The U.N.’s wall of silence was rigidly in place.
The microphone was just in front of me. All I had to do was press the button. I pressed it. The Chair recognized Myanmar (Burmese for Burma). I was on.
On behalf of the Asian Coastal Co-operation Initiative, an outfit I had thought up on the spur of the moment (it sounded just like one of the many dubious taxpayer-funded propaganda groups at the conference), I spoke for less than a minute.
Quietly, politely, authoritatively, I told the delegates three inconvenient truths they would not hear from anyone else:
• There has been no global warming for 16 of the 18 years of these wearisome, self-congratulatory yadayadathons.
• It is at least ten times more cost-effective to see how much global warming happens and then adapt in a focused way to what little harm it may cause than to spend a single red cent futilely attempting to mitigate it today.
• An independent scientific enquiry should establish whether the U.N.’s climate conferences are still heading in the right direction.
As I delivered the last of my three points, there were keening shrieks of rage from the delegates. They had not heard any of this before. They could not believe it. Outrage! Silence him! Free speech? No! This is the U.N.! Gettimoff! Eeeeeeeeeagh!
One of the hundreds of beefy, truncheon-toting U.N. police at the conference approached me as I left the hall and I was soon surrounded by him and a colleague. They took my conference pass, peered at it and murmured into cellphones.
Trouble was, they were having great difficulty keeping a straight face.
Put yourself in their sensible shoes. They have to stand around listening to the tedious, flatulent mendacities of pompous, overpaid, under-educated diplomats day after week after year. Suddenly, at last, someone says “Boo!” and tells the truth.
Frankly, they loved it. They didn’t say so, of course, or they’d have burst out laughing and their stony-faced U.N. superiors would not have been pleased.
I was amiably accompanied out into the balmy night, where an impressive indaba of stony-faced U.N. officials were alternately murmuring into cellphones and murmuring into cellphones. Murmuring into cellphones is what they do best.
After a few minutes the head of security – upper lip trembling and chest pulsating as he did his best to keep his laughter to himself – briefly stopped murmuring into his cellphone and bade me a cheerful and courteous goodnight.
The national delegation from Burma, whose microphone I had borrowed while they were out partying somewhere in the souk, snorted an official protest into its cellphone.
An eco-freako journalist, quivering with unrighteous indignation, wrote that I had been “evicted”. Well, not really. All they did was to say a cheery toodle-pip at the end of that day’s session. They couldn’t have been nicer about it.
The journalist mentioned my statement to my fellow-delegates that there had been no global warming for 16 years. What she was careful not to mention was that she had interviewed me at some length earlier in the day. She had sneered that 97% of climate scientists thought I was wrong.
I had explained to her that 100% of climate scientists would agree with me that there had been no global warming for 16 years if they were to check the facts, which is how science (as opposed to U.N. politics) is done.
I had also told her how to check the facts (but she had not checked them):
Step 1. Get the monthly mean global surface temperature anomalies since January 1997 from the Hadley Centre/CRU. The data, freely available online, are the U.N.’s preferred way to measure how much global warming has happened. Or you could use the more reliable satellite data from the University of Alabama at Huntsville or from Remote Sensing Systems Inc.
Step 2. Put the data into Microsoft Excel and use its routine that calculates the least-squares linear-regression trend on the data. Linear regression determines the underlying trend in a dataset over a given period as the slope of the unique straight line through the data that minimizes the sum of the squares of the absolute differences or “residuals” between the points corresponding to each time interval in the data and on the trend-line. Phew! If that is too much like doing real work (though Excel will do it for you at the touch of a button), find a friendly, honest statistician.
Step 3. Look up the measurement uncertainty in the dataset. Since measuring global temperature reliably is quite difficult, properly-collated temperature data are presented as central estimates flanked by upper and lower estimates known as the “error bars”.
Step 4. Check whether the warming (which is the difference between the first and last value on the trend-line) is greater or smaller than the measurement uncertainty. If it is smaller, falling within the error-bars, the trend is statistically indistinguishable from zero. There has been no warming – or, to be mathematically nerdy, there has been no statistically-significant warming.
The main point that the shrieking delegates here in Doha don’t get is this. It doesn’t matter how many profiteering mad scientists say global warming is dangerously accelerating. It isn’t. Period. Get over it.
The fact that there has been no global warming for 16 years is just that – a fact. It does not mean there is no such thing as global warming, or there has not been any global warming in the past, or there will be none in future.
In the global instrumental temperature record, which began in 1860, there have been several periods of ten years or more without global warming. However, precisely because these periods occur frequently, they tend to constrain the overall rate of warming.
Ideally, one should study periods of warming that are either multiples of 60 years or centered on a transition year between the warming and cooling (or cooling and warming) phases of the great ocean oscillations. That way, the distortions caused by the naturally-occurring 30-year cooling and 30-year warming phases are minimized.
Let’s do it. I have had the pleasure of being on the planet for 60 years. I arrived when it first became theoretically possible for our CO2 emissions to have a detectable effect on global temperature. From 1952 to the present, the planet has warmed at a rate equivalent to 1.2 Celsius degrees per century.
Or we could go back to 1990, the year of the first of the four quinquennial Assessment Reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPeCaC). It predicted that from 1990-2025 the world would warm at 3.0 Cº/century, giving 1 Cº warming by 2025.
Late in 2001 there was a phase-transition from the warming to the cooling phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, the most influential of the ocean oscillations. From 1990-2001 is 11 years; from 2001-2012 is 11 years. So 1990-2012 is a period centered on a phase-transition: with minimal natural distortion, it will indicate the recent temperature trend.
Since 1990 the world has warmed at 1.4 Cº, century, or a little under 0.3 Cº in all. Note that 1.4 Cº/century is a little greater than the 1.2 Cº/century observed since 1952. However, the period since 1990 is little more than a third of the period since 1952, and shorter periods are liable to exhibit somewhat steeper trends than longer periods.
So the slightly higher warming rate of the more recent period does not necessarily indicate that the warming rate is rising, and it is certainly not rising dangerously.
For the 21st century as a whole, IPeCaC is predicting not 1.2 or 1.4 Cº warming but close to 3 Cº, more than doubling the observed post-1990 warming rate. Or, if you believe the latest scare paper from our old fiends the University of East Anglia, up to 6 Cº, quadrupling it.
That is not at all likely. The maximum warming rate that persisted for at least ten years in the global instrumental record since 1850 has been 0.17 Cº. This rate occurred from 1860-1880; 1910-1940; and 1976-2001.
It is only in the last of these three periods that we could have had any warming influence: yet the rate of warming over that period is the same as in the two previous periods.
All three of these periods of rapidish warming coincided with warming phases of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation. The climate scare got underway about halfway through the 1976-2001 warming phase.
In 1976 there had been an unusually sharp phase-transition from the cooling to the warming phase. By 1988 James Hansen was making his lurid (and now disproven) temperature predictions before the U.S. Congress, after Al Gore and Sen. Tim Wirth had chosen a very hot June day for the hearing and had deliberately turned off the air-conditioning.
Here is a summary of the measured and predicted warming rates:
| Measured warming rate, 1997-2012 | 0.0 Cº/century |
| Measured warming rate, 1952-2012 | 1.2 Cº/century |
| Measured warming rate, 1990-2012 | 1.4 Cº/century |
| Measured warming rate, 1860-1880 | 1.7 Cº/century |
| Measured warming rate, 1910-1940 | 1.7 Cº/century |
| Measured warming rate, 1976-2001 | 1.7 Cº/century |
| Predicted warming rate in IPCC (1990), 1990-2025 | 3.0 Cº/century |
| Predicted warming rate in IPCC (2007), 2000-2100 | 3.0 Cº/century |
| Predicted warming rate by UEA (2012), 2000-2100 | 4.0-6.0 Cº/century |
But it is virtually impossible to tell the negotiating delegates any of what I have set out here. They would simply not understand it. Even if they did understand it, they would not care. Objective scientific truth no longer has anything to do with these negotiations. Emotion is all.
A particularly sad example of the mawkish emotionalism that may yet destroy the economies of the West was the impassioned statement by the negotiating delegate from the Philippines to the effect that, after the typhoon that has just killed hundreds of his countrymen, the climate negotiations have taken on a new, life-or-death urgency.
As he left the plenary session, the delegates stood either side of the central aisle and showed their sympathy by applauding him. Sympathy for his country was appropriate; sympathy for his argument was not.
After 16 years with no global warming – and, if he reads this posting, he will know how to check that for himself rather than believing the soi-disant “consensus” – global warming that has not happened cannot have caused Typhoon Bhopa, any more than it could have caused extra-tropical storm Sandy.
It is possible that illegal mining and logging played no small part in triggering the landslide that killed many of those who lost their lives.
Perhaps the Philippines should join the Asian Coastal Co-Operation Initiative. Our policy is that the international community should assist all nations to increase their resilience in the face of the natural disasters that have been and will probably always be part of life on Earth.
That is an objective worthier, more realistic, more affordable, and more achievable than attempting, Canute-like, to halt the allegedly rising seas with a vote to establish a second “commitment period” under the Kyoto Protocol.
Will someone please tell the delegates? Just press the button and talk. You may not be heard, though. Those who are not partying somewhere in the souk will be murmuring into their cellphones.
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Footnote by Anthony: Here is the video on Monckton’s address to the Doha COP18 conference.
No video has yet surfaced of him being “evicted” as the Telegraph journalist claims, suggesting that Monckton’s account of leaving the hall might be more accurate. The chair on the dais says “thank you” at the end, and didn’t call for security to evict Monckton.
Note: See also this week’s Friday Funny for Josh’s take on this. – Anthony
joeldshore:
Your post at December 9, 2012 at 12:08 pm falsely asserts
I did NOT “redefine” anything. I quoted it verbatim.
It says
It certainly would “help” if you were to tell the truth.
The required period to falsify the models has been identified.
THE MODELS ARE WRONG. Live with it.
Compare your falsehood about my “redefining” with your saying this (December 9, 2012 at 12:10 pm) to Crispin in Johannesburg
That is a falsehood.
Your statement is NOT “just as correct”.
There has been no discernible warming at 95% confidence over the last 16 years.
There was discernible warming at 95% confidence over the previous 16 years
Either you don’t have a clue what you are talking about or you are being disingenuous (assuming, of course, that it is not both).
Richard
9 Dec: Daily Mail: Britain gives millions in ‘climate aid’ to tackle flatulent Colombian cows… plus £31m to Turkish wind farms and funding for talks with Kenyan ‘rain-makers’
Tory MP Jacob Rees-Mogg said: ‘After an Autumn Statement where people are making significant cuts, to have a £2.9billion budget for a random collection of projects which have questions hanging over them as to whether or not they are corrupt is just an extraordinary waste of money.
‘The Government does not exist to make charitable donations – that’s something people should do privately. We’re looking for a further £10billion of cuts and this seems to me the easiest place to start.’…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2245300/Britain-gives-millions-climate-aid-tackle-flatulent-Colombian-cows–plus-31m-Turkish-wind-farms-funding-talks-Kenyan-rain-makers.html
This is nice::
“COP18 sees thousands of the kind of people who think we’re screwing up the planet by flying around the world, flying around the world in order achieve bugger all in a country, Qatar, made rich by the very fossil fuels the delegates want left in the ground. It’s like an absurdist flash mob.”
Rob Lyons in the internet magazine Spiked.
http://www.spiked-online.com/site/article/13148/
Anyone who wants a good laugh should visit joeldshore’s link above:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1975/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1975/to:1997.5/trend/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1975/trend
Then, because Wood-for-Trees website allows you to do so, simply change the date value in “Series 1” to 1965 (from 1975), and click on “Plot Graph”. Look at the graph.
Repeat again, and change the date to 1955. Look at the graph.
If you weren’t sure before, now you see how people like joeldshore are either stupid, or lying to you, or possibly both.
9 Dec: Daily Mail: Astronomer Sir Patrick Moore dies at 89: Broadcaster passed away peacefully at home with close friends and his cat Ptolemy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2245405/Sir-Patrick-Moore-dies-89-Broadcaster-passed-away-peacefully-home-close-friends-cat-Ptolemy.html
9 Dec: Telegraph: Delingpole: Sir Patrick Moore, proud patriot, would never have got a job in the modern BBC
Second, he knew too much about science – real science: in his case astronomy, which he had studied with the obsession of an autodidact, as opposed to the faux science of global warming which is the obsession of all modern TV scientists…ttp://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100193436/sir-patrick-moore-proud-patriot-would-never-have-got-a-job-in-the-modern-bbc/
joeldshore and other CAGW enthusiasts,
Looking at what you say is fine, cannot dispute it. But what does it say about warming and CO2. Nothing. What does it say about the IPCC credibility. Nothing.
Your 1975 to 2012 trend shows 1.6 degC/century warming trend. We all can see that the warming for the last 16 years has decelerated and remains flat at worst. The IPCC last 2007 report indicated 3 degC warming from 2000-2100. For this to happen means some serious acceleration will have to happen. But as of 2012 it is not. Right now they appear to be 12 years in the hole with .05 degC warming trend since 2000-2012.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2000/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2000/trend
So for their prediction to be true, they will need 3.35 deg c trend for the rest of the century.
My question to you and the rest of the CAGW enthusiasts, what would have to happen in the next 5 years for you to DOUBT the IPCC models ability to connect any signifcant warming to CO2?
Christopher Monckton,
Your unforgivable act was unspeakably horrific. You hurt the Doha attendee’s feelings, the poor wealth redistribution seeking dears.
Heh, heh, heh . . . . . that was great.
John
clipe says:
December 9, 2012 at 12:35 pm
“Unproved” maybe, but not disproved.
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The science (such as it was), has been corrupted by money.
Not all, not even nearly all,… it just needs an outlet.
The science, I mean.
Philip Shehan says:
December 7, 2012 at 6:43 pm
“Well no, trend from 2008 to the present is the steepest of the lot!!!
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/wti/from:1979/to:2013/plot/wti/from:1979/to:2013/trend/plot/wti/from:1979/to:2007/trend/plot/wti/from:2008/to:2013/trend
”
Further analysis shows a very recent alarming warming…
…followed by a rapid decline…
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/wti/from:1979/to:2013/plot/wti/from:1979/to:2013/trend/plot/wti/from:2008/to:2010.2/trend/plot/wti/from:2010.2/to:2013/trend
Do I get a price now?
Jean Parisot says:
December 8, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Why does the tune, “the world turned upside down”, stick in my head so long after reading accurate reporting in the Russian press that our own free institutions will not provide?
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This.
DirkH,
As usual, Philip Shehan is carefully avoiding the long term global warming trend, which has not accelerated. Shehan promotes the ‘accelerated warming’ lie because he is riding the climate gravy train.
But even über alarmist Phil Jones admits that the planet has repeatedly warmed at the same rate at different times — during times when CO2 was much lower than now. It is also shown in this WFT chart. That verifiable fact destroys the AGW conjecture, by showing conclusively that CO2 has no measurable effect.
Shehan cherry-picks very recent times because you can show anything that way. But by going back more than a century, we see that the rise in global warming remains within very clearly defined parameters, and that the natural warming has not recently accelerated.
This chart shows a much longer term relationship between CO2 and temperature. It is clear that CO2 has no long term effect on temperature. That is why Shehan only shows the past few years: anything can be cherry-picked that way, and Shehan is the ultimate cherry-picker.
@joeldshore
“This fools a lot of people, which is why the “global warming has stopped” meme is so popular with non-scientists but not so much with real scientists, particularly those familiar with dealing with real data.”
Good job I am not a non-scientist who doesn’t deal with real data then! Wow. I would hate to be one of those and have to face the wrath of your sharpened wit! (You do have some wits, right?)
Bravo Monckton of Benchley!!!
This comment from the RT article says it best.
One man states the facts and in a few sentences destroys the lifetime work of 17,000 fanatics. More power to Lord Monckton
Was Phil Jones correct or not about significant warming? Here are the numbers with the 95% numbers using Hadcrut4 to give him a break since Hadcrut3 does not seem to back him up for the 16 year interval.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/trend.php
Start of 1995 to end 2009: 0.133 +/- 0.144. Warming for 15 years is NOT significant which DOES agree with Phil Jones.
Start of 1995 to end 2010: 0.137 +/- 0.129. Warming for 16 years IS significant which DOES agree with Phil Jones.
Start of 1995 to end 2011: 0.109 +/- 0.119. Warming for 17 years is NOT significant. I never read of a comment by Phil Jones about this.
Start of 1995 to October 2012: 0.098 +/- 0.111. Warming for 18 years is NOT significant. I never read of a comment by Phil Jones about this.
joeldshore says:
December 9, 2012 at 12:10 pm
One will then see that the data since 1997 has continued to follow that line, a fact confirmed by fitting another line from 1975 to the present.
Yes, this is true, but there is another way to illustrate things. What I assumed was that warming did not stop in 1997, but rather that the temperatures follow a (very poor) sine wave. So if there was a slope of 0 for 16 years, then the top of the sine wave would be after 8 years or at 2005. You could argue that a flat slope of 16 years consists of warming for 8 years and then identical cooling for 8 years. If you get the slope from 1985 to 2005 and then from 1985 to date, the latter slope is lower as shown below.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1985/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1985/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1985/to:2005/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1997/to:2005/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:2005/trend
ericgrimsrud says:
December 7, 2012 at 10:40 am
“How nice that the doormen were impressed by Monckton’s comments”.
REPLY: How nice that the sneering, boorish, and angry Eric Grimsrud can’t find anything else to do except complain – Anthony
Perfect! I can’t imagine a better post to describe what is wrong with climate science. It reeks with snobbery.
As Dr Will Happer would explain, if you can’t convince people who have to work their butts off for a living that something is wrong with the world. . . .you either have to be stupid or you have to be preaching something pretty darned stupid.
Pete Wirfs says:
December 7, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I believe the suggestion that the lack of atmospheric warming in the last 16 years (which I believe is a cherry pick and also doesn’t show cooling.) is proof global warming has stopped is just as silly (immature?) as when my 8 year old child tells me they don’t need to wear a coat this evening because it was warm at lunch time.
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First, a question:
Which party do you consider the ‘child’ in this discussion?
The people saying whoa to giving major control of the planet and all of its resources to well established liars, crooks and despots based on weak evidence without even a discussion about adaptation. A scheme which allows them to control everything and we say, No!
Or
Those that believe our world will come to an end if we don’t end our use of fossil fuels now because CO2 is a pollutant. A gas which is absolutely proven to improve the biosphere and there is no solid evidence global warming is even bad. Have you not read the Climategate emails and the harry_read_me file showing how these scientists scheme to protect ‘the cause’.
It sounds to me like the children are afraid of the lies Al Gore and James Hansen told them.
I say, the earth warms because more people are active and concentrate energy in close but ever larger cities. The extra warmth increases usable land in the NH. More CO2 helps plant growth. More people need more food.
What’s wrong with that? Doesn’t that sound like ‘Mother Nature” at work?
cn
According to Crispin of Johburg Phil Jones of the CRU and UEA is not a ‘real scientist’.
So much for the ‘consensus’.
You can tell when a team is losing…they start to turn on one another!
Werner Brozek says:
Anything is POSSIBLE over short enough time periods in a dataset that has a slow trend plus weather noise. For example, it is also possible that the trend over the last 6 months or so is the new warming trend and we are going to start warming at a rate close to 1 C per year! However, claiming that this is the case on the basis of a fit to the last 6 months would be just fitting to noise, which is exactly what you are doing.
how many days late is the Fairfax Media in Australia? SMH is seen as leftwing over here, yet they claim this article is from UK’s conservative Telegraph. it’s rubbish wherever it’s from, shortcuts what he said, makes no comment on the veracity of his statements, but would appear to have been published only to use a photo that accenuates Monckton’s eyes. how disgusting can u get?
10 Dec: Sydney Morning Herald: from Telegraph, London: Sceptic sneaks into UN climate gathering
RIDING through the desert, white robes billowing in the breeze, ”Monckton of Arabia” made his way towards the Gulf gathering of 7000 climate change representatives…
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/sceptic-sneaks-into-un-climate-gathering-20121209-2b3z1.html
Mods, on average on this topic 75% of my posts are according to ModE not showing up despite leaving my computer in good health, this is getting annoying.
REPLY: I’ve been away for much of the weekend, so I haven’t seen what has transpired. As you know, due to your history here, you are on permanent moderation so that your comments are guaranteed review. If other mods are not allowing your posts to show up, it is likely due to them violating the WUWT policy in some way. If that annoys you, so be it. Posting comments here is a privilege, and not a right. – Anthony
richardscourtney says:
December 9, 2012 at 12:49 pm
joeldshore:
Your post at December 9, 2012 at 12:08 pm falsely asserts
“Ah…It might help to actually READ the paper that the claim is based on: http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/bams-sotc/climate-assessment-2008-lo-rez.pdf (see page S-23). You can’t just redefine it to say what you want it to say. And, as I have noted here http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/11/28/mythbusting-rahmstorf-and-foster/#comment-1168248 , the ENSO-adjustment issue is not the only mistake that Richard Courtney and the others citing that paper appear to be making.”
I did NOT “redefine” anything. I quoted it verbatim.
Actually you did, as I have pointed out on another thread. You selectively quoted, leaving out the critical sentence which defined what being modelled! As page 23 makes clear the quotation refers only to ENSO-adjusted data but you chose to apply it to the unadjusted data. Unfortunately for your argument there has been no 15yr interval of zero trend in the ENSO-adjusted record!
It says
“The simulations rule out (at the 95% level) zero trends for intervals of 15 yr or more, suggesting that an observed absence of warming of this duration is needed to create a discrepancy with the expected present-day warming rate.”
It certainly would “help” if you were to tell the truth.
A good rule to live by, what the paper actually says, with your omission highlighted:
“ENSO-adjusted warming in the three surface temperature datasets over the last 2–25 yr continually lies within the 90% range of all similar-length ENSO-adjusted temperature changes in these simulations (Fig. 2.8b). Near-zero and even negative trends are common for intervals of a decade or less in the simulations, due to the model’s internal climate variability. The simulations rule out (at the 95% level) zero trends for intervals of 15 yr or more, suggesting that an observed absence of warming of this duration is needed to create a discrepancy with the expected present-day warming rate.”
Phil. says:
December 9, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Mods, on average on this topic 75% of my posts are according to ModE not showing up despite leaving my computer in good health, this is getting annoying.
REPLY: I’ve been away for much of the weekend, so I haven’t seen what has transpired. As you know, due to your history here, you are on permanent moderation so that your comments are guaranteed review. If other mods are not allowing your posts to show up, it is likely due to them violating the WUWT policy in some way. If that annoys you, so be it. Posting comments here is a privilege, and not a right. – Anthony
Apparently not, I thought you’d like to know that the site is losing so many posts.
Below is the response I got from a mod. earlier:
I have also tried to correct it in other threads but for reasons best known to the Mods they disappeared?
[Reply: Nothing in the SPAM queue. Perhaps you ought to see if they actually showed up. Otherwise, no idea. -ModE ]
JShore “would be just fitting to noise, which is exactly what you are doing.”
Whereas the climate bletheren fit to their preconceived notions….
after their adjustments have been made to create an increased trend.
Without the “adjustments”, there was not that much warming between 1975-1998, same with sea-level, the trend exists basically because of “adjustments”
How much REAL warming has there really been.. well ,we may never know, because they have “LOST” the original data.
Fortunately some remnants stil exist !!
http://climateaudit.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/uhcn8.gif?w=300
joeldshore says:
December 9, 2012 at 5:00 pm
However, claiming that this is the case on the basis of a fit to the last 6 months would be just fitting to noise, which is exactly what you are doing.
Well I hope that when we reach 17 years of no warming that you will not suggest that 7 months of fitting to noise is the same as 17 years of fitting to noise. How long of a period of a slope of 0 do you think is needed before you can no longer blame noise and have to accept the fact that CO2 is not the driver that Santer and others thought it was?