Would you wear a mask to prevent CO2 exhalation? Surprisingly, many said yes.
Guest post by Paul Driessen
With the climate talks in Doha, Qatar limping along, and support for a new treaty waning among nations in attendance, one might expect spirits to be down among the global warming faithful. But this is not the case.
Yes, nations like Canada, New Zealand, and Japan seem eager to withdraw from the process. And yes, nature has not been exactly cooperative, with 16 years of no statistically significant warming. However, delegates here at COP 18 remain steadfast in their cause and willing to do almost anything it takes to “save the earth.”
CFACT highlighted this eagerness to go to extremes by introducing a new gadget called the “sequestration of exhalation device” — a mask that would filter CO2 from a person’s breath. Conference delegates were asked if they would wear such a mask if it would filter out all the CO2 they exhale. Surprisingly, many said yes.
Here’s a video of the interviews and responses:
Of course the mask really did no such thing, but those questioned were unaware that the proposition being made was done in sport. A few actually said they would have their children wear the mask, even going as far as to say their pets could wear a filtration mask too.
Among those trying the mask were members of the IPCC and World Meteorological Organization — two of the leading scientific bodies supporting global warming investigations. Although they were unwilling to use the mask themselves, they did entertain its usefulness and give their input on the notion.
If COP 18 attendees are willing to consent to wearing an invasive mask, just how far are they willing to cajole, push, or coerce the rest of the world to take action? Stay tuned: Visit www.CFACT.org for updates on COP18.
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Vacuums and lingerie? That comment could sink this conversation to depths the likes of which have never been reached on this board.
As someone who used to have to wear a respirator in much of my working day due to being in hazardous environments, this got me thinking.
let’s for the sake of argument take this idea at face value ( I noticed some posters agreeing it could be a good idea, not judged the irony in those posts)
I thought that surely there are no cartridge filters that do this and I was right, the filters are designed to keep out particulates, vapours, noxious acid gases etcetera. it would be ridiculous to make a cartridge co2 scrubber as respirators are designed to stop things entering your lungs, not getting out of them. Taking aside how uncomfortable these things are to wear for long periods of time and how much water vapour they collect (not to mention quite a stink after a while) I did consider that there might be applications for such a device. this led me to think of enclosed spaces and sure enough I found a device which is for use in commercial diving bells . A snip at $500 on sale.
http://www.amronintl.com/comex-lung-powered-carbon-dioxide-co2-scrubber.html
The device would have to be fitted with an active carbon scrubber for biologicals and a couple of pounds of soda lime or soda sorb to capture most of the CO2. The comfort and water vapour issues remain.
This device is good for 4 hours at which point the active ingredients are saturated and need to be replaced. Leaving you with a couple of pounds of co2 saturated waste to deal with. And that’s not even considering the amount of co2 released in the manufacture of the unit and the component parts plus active scrubbing ingredients.
And that’s as close as you get to the device being pranked in this video. 4 hours co2 removal for great expense and creating co2 saturated waste products. Imagine each person creating around 12 pounds of harmful chemical waste a day?
There are other methods of carbon scrubbing such as those used in coal-fired power plants but none are practicable in small scale personal use due to the nature of the process requiring high temperatures or other chemical related processes. many of these require lithium and then we have the whole argument about the environmental costs of getting that little beauty out of the salts.
So for those who said ‘wait a minute….maybe…?” ( and i know there are some ) Please don’t bother. Apart from the fact that the effects would be negligible and immeasurable the whole thing would never be practicable.
If the population of the US could suddenly be reduced by half to a more sustainable level, then the goal of halting Catastrophic Global Climate Disruption could almost be reached overnight by halting the release of over 70 Megatons of CO2 annually, just from breathing.
The same population reduction techniques could then be applied throughout the Western industrialized world until the noble goal of sustainability and bliss could be achieved for mankind forever.
They should have been asked :
If such a device were mandated by law, would you rat out your neighbors for refusing to wear one?
Jimbo says:
This is a great prank but it highlights our biggest problem- gullible people.
People keep using that word (gullible), but it’s not a real word. It’s not in the dictionary.
TonyG,
‘Gullible’ is in my dictionary:
“adj. easily persuaded to believe something; credulous : an attempt to persuade a gullible public to spend their money.”
The dictionary example given is perfect for Doha delegates:
“Some people will believe anything. Those who are truly gullible are the easiest to deceive, which is why they so often make fools of themselves.”
A “gull” is a gullible person, as well as a seagull – what the Americans and most English might call a “mug”. I remember being misled by a French dictionary on this point. The teacher told me ” You have the lighthouse surrounded by a crowd of clots” (another equivalent!)
@D Böehm I think TonyG is having a little giggle at your expense. Just to see how ‘gullible’ you might be 😉
zootcadillac,
That’s what I get for not reading the whole thread. ☹
Death worship reaches a new low. There is this thing called 350.org. That is lame. If one is really interested in millenarian, irrational worship of decarbonization, then it has to be 150.org.
150 PPM = dying biosphere and perhaps the end of it all.
D Böehm says:
TonyG,
‘Gullible’ is in my dictionary:
I always get at least one 🙂 Thanks for taking it in fun
RockyRoad says:
No way any of those people would qualify, wikeroy–my son just completed his sub duty as a nuke and said the CO2 levels were kept between 1,000 and 2,000 ppmv; that wouldn’t satisfy any of those COPx people, I’m sure–they’d probably suffocate psychologically, not physically.
I wonder what level would trigger alarms on a sub as being “too high”.
Also similar levels can be found in some commercial greenhouses. (About the most sensible way to describe carbon dioxide as a “greenhouse gas”.)
I think its a woderfull idea. It enables the rational to avoid any contact with these nongs, then again the fingers in their ears, singing la,la,la. should have given it away.
Kiwisceptic says (December 4, 2012 at 2:52 pm): “Actually there is some merit in this idea. A colleague of mine often says, “If you can’t convince them of their stupidity, you might as well fleece them!” Someone could make millions manufacturing and marketing this ‘device’ purely to sell to the idiots who think it might help save the planet by sequestering their ‘polluting’ CO2 breath emissions.”
Too late. The sellers of carbon indulg–er, “credits”–have already been fleecing the gullible for years, e.g.
http://thegoodhuman.com/2006/12/31/buying-carbon-offsets-which-company-do/
Given the choice of buying and wearing a cumbersome mask vs a “fire & forget” carbon offset, I think even the most gullible would choose the latter.
But I could be wrong. 🙂
“TonyG says:
December 5, 2012 at 12:08 pm
I always get at least one 🙂 Thanks for taking it in fun”
Make that two.
Whoops!
To save my reputation. I’ll repost this one.
But the production of those masks would itself require energy, and thus add to the dreaded CO2. The real, natural, sustainable solution is for everyone to learn not to breathe out.
Major gaffe
The interviewer rounded WAY DOWN for 2.5 lbs of CO2 x 7 billion people. She said “14 billionish”.
That understatement is a dead give-away that she is not a Greenie.
No Greenie would not overstate and then round upwards.
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I think you’re confusing the weight of carbon (the 14 billionish) with the weight of carbon dioxide. But the sound quality wasn’t that good.
What interests me is how CFACT managed to get a stand at the Expo. You’d have expected the organizers to have refused their application when they saw the nature of the body and what it stood for.
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Useful idiots all, the world would be far more gracious, and healthier in thought without them.
Just a thought: it’s easier to trap oxygen on the way in. No O2 means no CO2. They seem to be on low doses of it anyway. If they would breathe ocean water instead, we could combat sea-level rise as well.
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