Former UN Official says climate report will shock nations into action
John Gardner writes in with an entry from the “worse than we thought” department:
The IPCC seems to be pre-empting the growing skeptical science by preparing to issue an ‘its even worse than we thought’ report in 2013, according to a report in the Australian newspaper.
“The Brisbane Times’, which quotes Ivo De Boer, the UN climate chief during the 2009 Copenhagen talks. He is quoted “That report is going to scare the wits out of everyone,”
Mr De Boer said in the only scheduled interview of his visit to Australia.
“I’m confident those scientific findings will create new political momentum.”
Mostly it scares the remaining wits out of the AGW cheerleaders with how little it will spur anyone into action.
Appropriate action? How about public ridicule? Let Mann’s suit go to court. The process will require him to prove the insinuations against him are false, which he patently cannot do. His inability to refute the ‘libel’ will become a matter of court record, as well as challenges to his ‘Stolen Valor’ claim to be a Nobel Laureate.
The response is simple:
1) Scan the report for all grey literature and pull it and its associated claims out and hi light them as BS.
2) Take the remaining literature and pull in all the research which contests their conclusions but was excluded from the report.
3) Crowd source the writing of a contesting report, chapter by chapter, point by point.
Simple in plan, execution would take more time and effort obviously, but it’s very doable.
lie as much as you can — give the money so Obama can give it to the world.
How about the missing hot spot and other nice things…
“I’m confident those scientific findings will create new political momentum.”
With Western economies bankrupt for all intents and purposes, kept alive only by playing the big con game, good luck with that. Or to put it another way – we can all be Greek one day.
It doesn’t matter what the IPCC says. What does matter is that bankrupt governments all over the world need more money to give to their friends. Carbon taxes will be applied everywhere. Coal fired generators will be banned everywhere. There will be no “fracking” for gas. Electricity rates will skyrocket and capitalist economies will shudder to a stop. Western democracies will slide slowly into a modern form of fascism. We live in very perilous times indeed.
Climategate 3 – The Release of the Password!
Hmmm not so sure that this won’t have an impact
Whilst the science and statistics are flakey and get more so, the counter-reformation gathers pace. AGW is mainstream – remember.
IPCC is still highly rated in many circles. Sceptics are still regarded as odd folk. Nothing like a good scare story to pursue the agenda(s). And when was the last time you met a politician you would employ to do something useful? All I’m saying that being right doesn’t mean you are winning the argument.
Those who have wits so easily scared have suffered that loss already – on a very large scale across the political class. Those whose wits are made of stronger stuff will no doubt find further sources of interest, wry-amusement, anger and dismay in whatever comes next out of the IPCC machine and its associated amplification and exaggeration system.
Classic ‘climate science’ has always required that conclusions are reached before the ‘research’ is done.
So, Ivo De Boer is doing the correct thing by representing ‘climate science’ as it really is.
We all know the next IPCC report will be a hugely biased document whose sole goal will be that of supporting the gravy train of the obese, gross Global Warming Industry.
Translation of “New political momentum” = Increase funding for the gravy train.
Study explains slow down in global warming
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/11/07/3627632.htm
Lindzen has retired? Looking forward to WUWTV anyway.
it’s called self-justification. peoples’ minds have a very hard time accepting they are wrong, so instead their minds keep on digging a deeper hole; continuously convincing they are right. The only way to do that is to lie more in this case. The first step towards fixing this is acknowledging you are wrong. Nobody else can do that, besides the person/group. As long as they don’t then the more others -in this case skepticals- say they are wrong, the more they -in this case IPCC- is convinced they are right…
“I’m confident those scientific, er political, findings will create new political capital, er, momentum.”
I’m betting that AR5 will be more rational than a lot of people think. It took several years for all the garbage in AR4 to be debunked. In fact, it take several years before people started going through it systematically to expose everything from melting glacier claims to the use of gray literature to even beginning to understand that much of the AR4 science said something very different from the SPM, that things like their own LOSU pretty much stated that they don’t know the radiative physics to any great certainty, and that the models they used have widely diverging values for forcing by aerosols.
They’ll not have such luxury this time around. The blogosphere is now “running awake” and they know it. They’d be insane to engage in another round of trickery and obfuscation because it will be debunked this time in months, perhaps weeks.
Mind you, I’ve predicated many decisions in my life on rational behaviour by human beings, much to my detriment. Sigh. Guess we’ll wait and see.
Tim Ball:
You could be correct that De Boer knows what is going on, but it’s just possible that he’s doing what they’ve been doing with the SREX report: Pretending that it was really scary when it was anything but. That’s been fairly successful, at least in my country. If they’re going to hide the actual report behind a massive wall of propaganda, they’d better start now.
It won’t be long before the climate commissars try to pass laws to ban any dissent from the party line. What next? A climate inquisition with skeptics herded into ghettos by the sea and forced to wear a big yellow D…
Oooh! I’m really scared of bad computer modeling.
Just announced by AAAS:
Here is a September briefing of Congress by NCAR proposing a National Weather Commission
Wasn’t the last IPCC report full of “smoking guns” or some such nonsense that was supposed to shock nations into dancing to their tune? Sounds like the same old same old all over again… wake me when it’s over.
And to answer WillR’s question, “What sort of action seems appropriate?” The simplest action of all — stop funding the IPCC. Once the money stops flowing, the “climate crisis” will vanish.
Also just announced by AAAS:
Climate change and US and global security. Of course, we know the conclusion ahead of time….
http://americansecurityproject.org/featured-items/2012/climate-security-report/
Will all the graphs stop at 1998?
I agree with Randian striking.
But don’t embrace Randianism unskeptically for her naivete in matters philosophical, epistemological and scientific. Leonard Peikoff has turned it into a closely held cult not unlike “scientology”.
Look at who wrote it, somebody riding the Carbon gravy train. Choooo, Chooooooooooo!
Peter Hannam
Carbon economy editor
The “report is going to scare the wits out of everyone”, because only the witless will be scared.
You guys just keep the Constitution in mind at all times. Don’t let the Obamas abuse it, change it or destroy it. The constitution is there for just such an occasion as this: to protect you from those in power that want to bring you down. And yeah, Climategate III couldn’t hurt!