Former UN Official says climate report will shock nations into action
John Gardner writes in with an entry from the “worse than we thought” department:
The IPCC seems to be pre-empting the growing skeptical science by preparing to issue an ‘its even worse than we thought’ report in 2013, according to a report in the Australian newspaper.
“The Brisbane Times’, which quotes Ivo De Boer, the UN climate chief during the 2009 Copenhagen talks. He is quoted “That report is going to scare the wits out of everyone,”
Mr De Boer said in the only scheduled interview of his visit to Australia.
“I’m confident those scientific findings will create new political momentum.”
Sounds like time for Climategate 3
If it is always “worse than we thought” does that mean that warming is increasing exponentially?
The more they howl ‘Doom’, the more ludicrous they’ll look.
Meanwhile, it’s the costs of “going Green (sic)” which are “scaring the wits out of everyone”.
Edohiguma says:
November 7, 2012 at 10:02 am
The ship’s on fire and the rats have already left it
I suspect AR5 is where the rats swim TOWARD the sinking ship – follow the money
Andi
What really scares me is that politicians take shifty buggers such as de Boer seriously – throwing politicians’ veracity even further into doubt.
Why the surprise? It requires no inside knowledge. Whatever the scientists say the IPCC report will be designed to “scare the wits out of everyone. Follow the money.
Ivo De Boer’s successor is Christiana Figueres, some of whose current financial interest are reported by Wilkipedia as including – Senior Adviser to C-Quest Capital, a carbon finance company focusing on programmatic CDM investments; Principal Climate Change Advisor to ENDESA Latinoamérica, the largest private utility in Latin America with operations in Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia and Peru and Vice Chair of the Rating Committee of the Carbon Rating Agency, the first entity to apply credit rating expertise to carbon assets.
A lady in this posiiion can command large lecture fees and Wolkipedia states that Ms. Figueres is a frequent lecturer on climate policy and negotiations at academic institutions including Yale University, University of Chicago, Georgetown University, College of William and Mary, and Johns Hopkins University; has recurrent public speaking engagements by invitation of the World Bank, Inter American Development Bank, Corporación Andina de Fomento OECD, Carbon Expo, International Energy Agency, UNIDO , LAC Carbon Forum, Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean, AVINA Foundation, Point Carbon, Environmental Finance, International Emissions Trading Association, PEW Center on Global Climate Chang, Global Foundation for Democracy and Development, etc.
Finally it is matter of pride that she has been trained and authorized by Al Gore to deliver his presentation “An Inconvenient Truth”.
“scare the wits out of everyone” … not
the alarmists, they’re already witless.
SOS~”same old s**t”
Just give me the headline and set on “ignore.”
Next IPCC report will ‘scare the wits out of everyone’
Seems reasonable since the folks promoting the next IPCC report appear to have already had their “wits” removed.
🙂
DemUNcrats.
Schrodinger’s Cat says:
November 7, 2012 at 10:36 am
Sounds like time for Climategate 3
Beat me to it by that much… :).
In general, the greater the magnitude of any claimed catastrophic consequence of global warming, the smaller the likelihood of it occurring. I have recently proposed a framework to rigorously and fairly quick way of assessing the quality of any new evidence presented to gain a proper perspective. If nothing else, it is a means of framing the critical questions.
WillR says:
November 7, 2012 at 10:36 am
“What sort of action seems appropriate?… Tying up and gagging IPCC authors?
Just askin’”
Don’t need to… just stop feeding them and they will leave. The IPCC like every begger animal will not hang around when its not getting handouts.
Well, isn’t “scaring the wits out of everyone” sort of the whole idea behind AGW in order to get people to buy into hundreds of billions of dollars into taxes to send money to the “right” people? Pretty much business as usual as I see it.
Would not read much into “brisbane Times” Just a cheap Australian rag newspaper run by the extraordinary Australian Greens IQ equals 0
Please do not scoff or think that anyone is going to change his mind just because we are plunged into a Little Ice Age or contrary scientific evidence is demonstrated. Once Mrs Thatcher started the AGW idea as a means of subduing the miners in UK, the conversations literally took on a life of their own. A supra-human organism was born and is now reproducing itself in all the ancillary conversations that it has spawned. Contrary evidence, crushing argument and refutation serve not to stop this colonisation of minds but to accelerate the rate at which it generates more conversations.
This has nothing to do with science any longer. It has escaped from politics and is now roaming the world, changing its terminology as it goes. The greenhouse effect and global warming are now embraced by climate change; weather has become conflated with climate and so on. I was informed by a UK politician that unless draconian measures are taken the ‘climate change will soon be spiralling out of control’. Note the notion that somehow in the past it was ‘in control’ and that soon there will be a state change – stuff about tipping points and all that – letting loose the forces created by man’s past sins to devastate future generations etc.
My point is that the AGW paradigm is unlikely to die out for several generations. As noted here and elsewhere, teachers and children are now engaging in the AGW conversations and once this language becomes embedded in everyday conversation, it will take generations for an alternative myth to squeeze it out. It will be adopted by other belief systems that can use it to fuel their fear engines so that adherence to its precepts becomes a moral imperative – and heresy will be interpreted as carelessness for the future of mankind on earth and punished appropriately – maybe by inquisition and persecution on earth and, as if that was not enough, in whatever afterlife is on offer.
Time for Atlas to Shrug….
Looking forward to see the reaction from IPCC, this was a rather high-strung claim, so how will they reply?
IPCC seems to be somewhere between a rock and a hard place in this situation; if they deny this or play it down, the sceptic side may gain from it. And if they don’t reply at all, they will look rather stupid. Surely this kind of extreme claim cannot have been a deliberate leak?
Hum, from some of the comments this normal IPCC junk it would appear that the sky is falling from all sides of the political spectrum. That tells me that no matter what is done by anyone it will be of benefit to the plutocrats of the world and no one else.
Its not their reports which scare me I find them hilarious. What scares me is how a corrupt incompetent organisation can be taken seriously?
In a way – I really hope it is ‘more stupid’ and unbelieveable than the last one. Look at it this way:
1) had the IPCC been far more ‘scientific’ in its predictions and pronouncements, we would never have looked into it too deeply (well, I wouldn’t anyway). The softly softly approach of removing cash from our npockets would have gone on undertected by the average man for much longer?
2) having made their past furore, without any subsequent real warming – any future furore will need to be backed up with actual evidence – I mean, it’s all well and good saying its getting warmer with pretty graphs and figures – but the more they claim and the less it happens, the more stupid THEY look.
3) the political backlash from all the wasted AGW scam money will be immense. Imagine in another 5 years, when we are severely ‘cold’ how the public are going to react at the mere mention of IPCC? The Occupy movement will be a mere drop in the proverbial ocean – and as for all those countries that use Carbon taxes – well, I dread to think of the outcry!
When you’ve got a one trick pony, you’ve got to depend on that one trick for all effect. Over and over and over again, only with bigger headlines each time.
Reality is likely to spoil Ivo De Boer’s wet dream – De Boer was the UN climate chief during the 2009 Copenhagen talks and is now a consultant for carbon trading.
Obviously the economic collapse of the EU and the US will dampen the enthusiasm for wasting trillions of dollars to battle climate change. Deficits do matter in the end.
As there should be observable cooling, followed by significant cooling due to the interruption in the solar magnetic cycle, the scientists that were pushing the extreme warming paradigm will have some explaining to do. It is rather difficult to convince the general public of extreme AGW when the planet is cooling. (There is a 10 to 13 year delay in cooling when the solar magnetic cycle changes from the most active cycle in 10,000 years to a Maunder minimum. The physical cause for the delay is the reason for the increase in earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.)
The Arctic changes are scary. Greenland has lost 3000km3 of ice since 1995 (the ice-sheet was in balance before that) and the continuing collapse in sea ice volume is bewildering. This years huge surface melt in GReenland is a symptom that the mass-loss is continuing. It’s scary that there are still wingnut morans who think that the Arctic is not warming up!
I wouldn’t dismiss this. Obama’s reelection changes things. He is perfectly capable of using a report like this to gin up support for all sorts of save the planet legislation. Remember, he is a deep Goreite believer in global warming or whatever it’s called now.