Al Gore on Obama's failed debate performance – 'it was the altitude', not the attitude

I would not have believed this if I wasn’t able to see it myself. This bloviation even tops Gore’s “Earth’s interior is millions of degrees” comment on live TV. Watch this video segment from Gore’s Current TV: 

So how does he explain Romney’s performance? High altitude training?

And to think this man almost became president and is the most globally recognized spokesman for global warming.

h/t to Chuck Johnson

 

 

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D. J. Hawkins
October 4, 2012 3:49 pm

pat says:
October 4, 2012 at 9:45 am
Al Gore has his head in the clouds.

No, someplace darker and smellier.

Mac the Knife
October 4, 2012 3:55 pm

kadaka (KD Knoebel) says:
October 4, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Hoover has a dam. Reagan has an airport. What shall be named in honor of President Obama?
Kadaka,
His ‘hope’ is that his lasting legacy will be ‘Obamacare’. But, if Romney/Ryan are elected, they have pledged to ‘change’ that in short order.
MtK

E.M.Smith
Editor
October 4, 2012 3:56 pm

Oh DEAR! The POTUS doesn’t function well at altitude?
Well since in an emergency, we toss him onto Airforce One and he is supposed to be making clear headed decisions about things like “Nuke Them Or Not?”, and since airplanes run at an effective altitude well above that of Denver, clearly the POTUS is “not fit” to handle it. AlGore, an expert, has so testified.
There is only one clear path here, using the Precautionary Principle, we must have Biden take over from Obama, and all further debates to be Biden vs Romney.
Obama must step down due to his medical condition…
Don’t know if that needs a /sarcoff>; or not… depends on “Facts not in evidence”…

D. J. Hawkins
October 4, 2012 3:56 pm

kadaka (KD Knoebel) says:
October 4, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Gee, do you think Obama looking tired, irritable, arguably looking hung over, could have had something to do with the three days of “debate prep” in Las Vegas?
After all, it was so strenuous he had to take a break, and visited Hoover Dam. Which he gazed at in amazement. And wondered what great things would be named after him. Hoover has a dam. Reagan has an airport. What shall be named in honor of President Obama?

Well, someday they’re going to open the high level radioactive waste storage facility. Putting away toxic stuff for nearly forever, nothing inside it is good for you…yeah, that sounds about right.

October 4, 2012 4:16 pm

Lar1 (@LarBren1) says:
October 4, 2012 at 8:54 am
–> Maybe you should donate your president to one of the ‘low countries’. Is the
–> Netherlands low enough?
How about Atlantis?

TomRude
October 4, 2012 4:29 pm

Al Gore and Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia are good friends… No surprise.

Justthinkin
October 4, 2012 4:50 pm

Simply amazing. The Gorebull,who invented the internet,and is the leading climate “scientist” in the world,doesn’t know the difference between “altitude” and “elevation”?? I am shocked,I tells ya,shocked!

Winter Hawk
October 4, 2012 5:00 pm

Gunga Din says:
October 4, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Winter Hawk says:
October 4, 2012 at 11:41 am
There were numerous excuses made for Obama’s poor performance from various members of the media. However, Gore felt obligated to present an opinion based on sound science.
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“There were numerous excuses made for Obama’s poor performance from various members of the media. However, Gore felt obligated to present an excuse based on what sounds like science to him.
(Is that better?)
If the sarcasm was not obvious, yes.

timbrom
October 4, 2012 5:31 pm

Stark Dickflüssig, you owe me a monitor.

Don Worley
October 4, 2012 6:26 pm

I think he just needed a cigarette. Looked a bit angry.
As for Gore, it’s great to know that in America even a bumbling idiot can become a multi millionaire.

October 4, 2012 7:09 pm

jaypan says:
October 4, 2012 at 9:18 am
PaulH says:
October 4, 2012 at 8:37 am
On a somewhat related note, Gore no longer sees green energy as a wise investment:
http://www.thestreet.com/story/11727215/1/al-gore-walks-away-from-green-energy.html
Love this article. Telling an inconvenient truth. Thanks for sharing.

Perhaps the mule has had enough whacks across the forehead with a 2×4 ! Prob’ly not, though.

Barefoot boy from Brooklyn
October 4, 2012 7:11 pm

You’re all wet. Many of us who were born and lived most of our lives at sea level can be quite altitude-sensitive. As a young man of 40, and an executive in a large, Denver-based Fortune 500 corporation, I would make sure that any important meetings that I had at HQ were on Mondays. Then, I would fly out to Denver on Friday or Saturday in order to go hiking on the weekend and acclimatize for the Monday morning meeting, before flying back East. I was certain to have headaches on Saturday or Sunday.

October 4, 2012 7:13 pm

Mitt Romney’s house is barely above sea level in Belmont Massachusetts.

October 4, 2012 7:14 pm

Doug Huffman says, October 4, 2012 at 8:42 am:
> Altitude?
> is is not the first speech and visit to “The Mile High” by the current POTUS.
> I recall correctly that aircraft cabins are pressurized to about 2 miles,
> 10K feet?
They’re pressurized to equiv. of 8,000 feet.

Barefoot boy from Brooklyn
October 4, 2012 7:24 pm

Sunset, I understand that Mitt was out to Denver a day or so early.

D Böehm
October 4, 2012 7:32 pm

BBFB,
Denver’s altitude is by far the lamest possible excuse. If 0bama can’t handle what many thousands of travelers handle every day, why should he be trusted with his finger on the nuclear trigger?
Face it, the true 0bama was exposed last night: bumbling without his teleprompter, lazy, incompetent, uninterested in policy, and just wishing the debate was over. Altitude had nothing to do with it. You saw the real deal in the debate.

Barefoot boy from Brooklyn
Reply to  D Böehm
October 4, 2012 7:39 pm

Let’s stay calm and logical. I didn’t say it WAS the cause of his admittedly lame performance; I just said it is believable, and I know from personal experience that it is possible. As I wrote.
You have no idea if Obama is lazy or uninterested in policy==a rather far-fetched notion to impose on a politician–maybe even less idea about that than Gore does about altitude’s effect on Presidential debaters. I do have an idea that Romney was playing pretty fast and loose with the truth, but like many doubletalkers, it is hard even for someone who is not overtired, to catch the misstatements on the fly. I believe that some catch-up is already under way.

Barefoot boy from Brooklyn
October 4, 2012 7:42 pm

By the way, I hold no brief for Al Gore, who is all wet in his own way. I met him once, many years before the climate debate, and I thought he was a bit weird even then.

October 4, 2012 7:42 pm

They’re blaming the moderator, they’re blaming his anniversary, they’re blaming the altitude. A man that cannot cope with these circumstances and still lead is not qualified to be president.
We will see Mitt Romney putting his hand on the Bible and taking the Presidential oath.

Barefoot boy from Brooklyn
October 4, 2012 7:43 pm

And he seemed to think the same of me.

D Böehm
October 4, 2012 7:48 pm

BBFB says:
“I do have an idea that Romney was playing pretty fast and loose with the truth…”
Facts, please. Innuendo doesn’t cut it here.

Barefoot boy from Brooklyn
Reply to  D Böehm
October 4, 2012 7:54 pm

Well, for starters, there’s this from ThinkProgress.org
Pundits from both sides of the aisle have lauded Mitt Romney’s strong debate performance, praising his preparedness and ability to challenge President Obama’s policies and accomplishments. But Romney only accomplished this goal by repeatedly misleading viewers. He spoke for 38 minutes of the 90 minute debate and told at least 27 myths:
1) “[G]et us energy independent, North American energy independent. That creates about 4 million jobs”. Romney’s plan for “energy independence” actually relies heavily on a study that assumes the U.S. continues with fuel efficiency standards set by the Obama administration. For instance, he uses Citigroup research based off the assumption that “‘the United States will continue with strict fuel economy standards that will lower its oil demand.” Since he promises to undo the Obama administration’s new fuel efficiency standards, he would cut oil consumption savings of 2 million barrels per day by 2025.
2) “I don’t have a $5 trillion tax cut. I don’t have a tax cut of a scale that you’re talking about.” A Tax Policy Center analysis of Romney’s proposal for a 20 percent across-the-board tax cut in all federal income tax rates, eliminating the Alternative Minimum Tax, eliminating the estate tax and other tax reductions, would reduce federal revenue $480 billion in 2015. This amounts to $5 trillion over the decade.
3) “My view is that we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. But I’m not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high-income people.” If Romney hopes to provide tax relief to the middle class, then his $5 trillion tax cut would add to the deficit. There are not enough deductions in the tax code that primarily benefit rich people to make his math work.
4) “My — my number-one principal is, there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. I want to underline that: no tax cut that adds to the deficit.” As the Tax Policy Center concluded, Romney’s plan can’t both exempt middle class families from tax cuts and remain revenue neutral. “He’s promised all these things and he can’t do them all. In order for him to cover the cost of his tax cut without adding to the deficit, he’d have to find a way to raise taxes on middle income people or people making less than $200,000 a year,” the Center found.
5) “I will not under any circumstances raise taxes on middle-income families. I will lower taxes on middle-income families. Now, you cite a study. There are six other studies that looked at the study you describe and say it’s completely wrong.” The studies Romney cites actually further prove that Romney would, in fact, have to raise taxes on the middle class if he were to keep his promise not to lose revenue with his tax rate reduction.
6) “I saw a study that came out today that said you’re going to raise taxes by $3,000 to $4,000 on middle-income families.” Romney is pointing to this study from the American Enterprise Institute. It actually found that rather than raise taxes to pay down the debt, the Obama administration’s policies — those contained directly in his budget — would reduce the share of taxes that go toward servicing the debt by $1,289.89 per taxpayer in the $100,000 to $200,000 range.
7) “And the reason is because small business pays that individual rate; 54 percent of America’s workers work in businesses that are taxed not at the corporate tax rate, but at the individual tax rate….97 percent of the businesses are not — not taxed at the 35 percent tax rate, they’re taxed at a lower rate. But those businesses that are in the last 3 percent of businesses happen to employ half — half of all the people who work in small business.” Far less than half of the people affected by the expiration of the upper income tax cuts get any of their income at all from a small businesses. And those people could very well be receiving speaking fees or book royalties, which qualify as “small business income” but don’t have a direct impact on job creation. It’s actually hard to find a small business who think that they will be hurt if the marginal tax rate on income earned above $250,000 per year is increased.
8) “Mr. President, all of the increase in natural gas and oil has happened on private land, not on government land. On government land, your administration has cut the number of permits and licenses in half.” Oil production from federal lands is higher, not lower: Production from federal lands is up slightly in 2011 when compared to 2007. And the oil and gas industry is sitting on 7,000 approved permits to drill, that it hasn’t begun exploring or developing.
9) “The president’s put it in place as much public debt — almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined.” This is not even close to being true. When Obama took office, the national debt stood at $10.626 trillion. Now the national debt is over $16 trillion. That $5.374 trillion increase is nowhere near as much debt as all the other presidents combined.
10) “That’s why the National Federation of Independent Businesses said your plan will kill 700,000 jobs. I don’t want to kill jobs in this environment.” That study, produced by a right-wing advocacy organization, doesn’t analyze what Obama has actually proposed.
11) “What we do have right now is a setting where I’d like to bring money from overseas back to this country.” Romney’s plan to shift the country to a territorial tax system would allow corporations to do business and make profits overseas without ever being taxed on it in the United States. This encourages American companies to invest abroad and could cost the country up to 800,000 jobs.
12) “I would like to take the Medicaid dollars that go to states and say to a state, you’re going to get what you got last year, plus inflation, plus 1 percent, and then you’re going to manage your care for your poor in the way you think best.” Sending federal Medicaid funding to the states in the form of a block grant woud significantly reduce federal spending for Medicaid because the grant would not keep up with projected health care costs. A CBO estimate of a very similar proposal from Paul Ryan found that federal spending would be “35 percent lower in 2022 and 49 percent lower in 2030 than current projected federal spending” and as a result “states would face significant challenges in achieving sufficient cost savings through efficiencies to mitigate the loss of federal funding.” “To maintain current service levels in the Medicaid program, states would probably need to consider additional changes, such as reducing their spending on other programs or raising additional revenues,” the CBO found.
13) “I want to take that $716 billion you’ve cut and put it back into Medicare…. But the idea of cutting $716 billion from Medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of Obamacare is, in my opinion, a mistake. There’s that number again. Romney is claiming that Obamacare siphons off $716 billion from Medicare, to the detriment of beneficiaries. In actuality, that money is saved primarily through reducing over-payments to insurance companies under Medicare Advantage, not payments to beneficiaries. Paul Ryan’s budget plan keeps those same cuts, but directs them toward tax cuts for the rich and deficit reduction.
14) “What I support is no change for current retirees and near-retirees to Medicare.” Here is how Romney’s Medicare plan will affect current seniors: 1) by repealing Obamacare, the 16 million seniors receiving preventive benefits without deductibles or co-pays and are saving $3.9 billion on prescription drugs will see a cost increase, 2) “premium support” will increase premiums for existing beneficiaries as private insurers lure healthier seniors out of the traditional Medicare program, 3) Romney/Ryan would also lower Medicaid spending significantly beginning next year, shifting federal spending to states and beneficiaries, and increasing costs for the 9 million Medicare recipients who are dependent on Medicaid.
15) “Number two is for people coming along that are young, what I do to make sure that we can keep Medicare in place for them is to allow them either to choose the current Medicare program or a private plan. Their choice. They get to choose — and they’ll have at least two plans that will be entirely at no cost to them.” The Medicare program changes for everyone, even people who choose to remain in the traditional fee-for-service. Rather than relying on a guaranteed benefit, all beneficiaries will receive a premium support credit of $7,500 on average in 2023 to purchase coverage in traditional Medicare or private insurance. But that amount will only grow at a rate of GDP plus 1.5 percentage points and will not keep up with health care costs. So while the federal government will spend less on the program, seniors will pay more in premiums.
16) “And, by the way the idea came not even from Paul Ryan or — or Senator Wyden, who’s the co-author of the bill with — with Paul Ryan in the Senate, but also it came from Bill — Bill Clinton’s chief of staff.” Romney has rejected the Ryan/Wyden approach — which does not cap the growth of the “premium support” subsidy. Bill Clinton and his commission also voted down these changes to the Medicare program.
17) “Well, I would repeal and replace it. We’re not going to get rid of all regulation. You have to have regulation. And there are some parts of Dodd-Frank that make all the sense in the world.” Romney has previously called for full repeal of Dodd-Frank, a law whose specific purpose is to regulate banks. MF Global’s use of customer funds to pay for its own trading losses is just one bit of proof that the financial industry isn’t responsible enough to protect consumers without regulation.
18) “But I wouldn’t designate five banks as too big to fail and give them a blank check. That’s one of the unintended consequences of Dodd-Frank… We need to get rid of that provision because it’s killing regional and small banks. They’re getting hurt.” The law merely says that the biggest, systemically risky banks need to abide by more stringent regulations. If those banks fail, they will be unwound by a new process in the Dodd-Frank law that protects taxpayers from having to pony up for a bailout.
19) “And, unfortunately, when — when — when you look at Obamacare, the Congressional Budget Office has said it will cost $2,500 a year more than traditional insurance. So it’s adding to cost.” Obamacare will actually provide millions of families with tax credits to make health care more affordable.
20) “[I]t puts in place an unelected board that’s going to tell people ultimately what kind of treatments they can have. I don’t like that idea.” The Board, or IPAB is tasked with making binding recommendations to Congress for lowering health care spending, should Medicare costs exceed a target growth rate. Congress can accept the savings proposal or implement its own ideas through a super majority. The panel’s plan will modify payments to providers but it cannot “include any recommendation to ration health care, raise revenues or Medicare beneficiary premiums…increase Medicare beneficiary cost-sharing (including deductibles, coinsurance, and co- payments), or otherwise restrict benefits or modify eligibility criteria” (Section 3403 of the ACA). Relying on health care experts rather than politicians to control health care costs has previously attracted bipartisan support and even Ryan himself proposed two IPAB-like structures in a 2009 health plan.
21) “Right now, the CBO says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as Obamacare goes into effect next year. And likewise, a study by McKinsey and Company of American businesses said 30 percent of them are anticipating dropping people from coverage.” The Affordable Care Act would actually expand health care coverage to 30 million Americans, despite Romney fear mongering. According to CBO director Douglas Elmendorf, 3 million or less people would leave employer-sponsored health insurance coverage as a result of the law.
22) “I like the way we did it [health care] in Massachusetts…What were some differences? We didn’t raise taxes.” Romney raised fees, but he can claim that he didn’t increase taxes because the federal government funded almost half of his reforms.
23) “It’s why Republicans said, do not do this, and the Republicans had — had the plan. They put a plan out. They put out a plan, a bipartisan plan. It was swept aside.” The Affordable Care Act incorporates many Republican ideas including the individual mandate, state-based health care exchanges, high-risk insurance pools, and modified provisions that allow insurers to sell policies in multiple states. Republicans never offered a united bipartisan alternative.
24) “Preexisting conditions are covered under my plan.” Only people who are continuously insured would not be discriminated against because they suffer from pre-existing conditions. This protection would not be extended to people who are currently uninsured.
25) “In one year, you provided $90 billion in breaks to the green energy world. Now, I like green energy as well, but that’s about 50 years’ worth of what oil and gas receives.” The $90 billion was given out over several years and included loans, loan guarantees and grants through the American Recovery Act. $23 billion of the $90 billion “went toward “clean coal,” energy-efficiency upgrades, updating the electricity grid and environmental clean-up, largely for old nuclear weapons sites.”
26) “I think about half of [the green firms Obama invested in], of the ones have been invested in have gone out of business. A number of them happened to be owned by people who were contributors to your campaigns.” As of late last year, only “three out of the 26 recipients of 1705 loan guarantees have filed for bankruptcy, with losses estimated at just over $600 million.”
27) “If the president’s reelected you’ll see dramatic cuts to our military.” Romney is referring to the sequester, which his running mate Paul Ryan supported. Obama opposes the military cuts and has asked Congress to formulate a balanced approach that would avoid the trigger.
UPDATE
Romney has now admitted that number 26 was not true.

alan
October 4, 2012 8:06 pm

No, No. It was not altitude OR attitude that failed Obama.
It was Obama’s aptitude that failed him!
Not smart enough to debate without a teleprompter.

October 4, 2012 8:13 pm

Evidently he doesn’t remember that the 2008 DNC was in Denver – didn’t seem to effect Obama then.
Al Gore has a hard time speaking without making a fool of himself

Barefoot boy from Brooklyn
Reply to  Jeff L
October 4, 2012 8:35 pm

And the word “acclimatizatin” appears not to have an effect on you. Ironic, given the theme of this blog.

Barefoot boy from Brooklyn
October 4, 2012 8:35 pm

Pardon my typing. “acclimatization”

D Böehm
October 4, 2012 8:39 pm

BBFB,
Not one of your cut ‘n’ pasted talking points from ‘Think Progress’ qualifies as a “lie”. It is all psychological projection; Obama cannot open his mouth without lies spewing forth like water from a high pressure fire hose. In fact, your boy is a dainty little flower who can’t handle an important debate. He flunked, and the whole world saw it.
We saw the real 0bama last night: an incompetent screw-off who has other interests beside the good of the country. His apologists blame his failed performance on Denver. The real reason is that 0bama has been handed everything for the past 15 years, and the MSM covers for him. But when the chips were down, he failed. You are deluded if you believe otherwise.

October 4, 2012 8:51 pm

It must have been the altitude….
51 seconds of…….”uh”