Mutiny of the bounties – Heartland responds to ridiculous Truthmarket campaign

This is even more ridiculous than Stephan Lewandowsky’s “moon landing conspiracy theory paper” and Skeptical Science’s sekrit “crusher crew” kids klub managed by John Cook. I suppose the people pushing these things just have no idea what clowns they look like trying these campaigns to discredit climate skepticism, otherwise we wouldn’t see these constant substitutions of “opinion consensus” for hard science. Opinion isn’t science, get over it.

From PRWeb yesterday, a loaded proposition, most likely engineered to fail. It is really difficult to taker this seriously when they use “deniers” in the headline, and doubly difficult to take seriously when they don’t define “credible” anywhere, leaving that definition open to the whims of the organizers.

To win the $5,000 bounty, a campaign challenger must provide verifiable evidence that significantly less than 95% of credible American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause.

My first thought was: Why would anyone want to respond to a campaign where they insult you right out of the gate? Then I realized this is nothing but propaganda, they designed it to fail.

So rather than take them up on it (which is destined to fail due to the way the don’t define “credible evidence”), it seems that the tables are turned, and a new reverse bounty has been offered. Here’s the PR headline from Truthmarket yesterday:

============================================================

Climate Change Deniers Challenged by a TruthMarket Campaign Offering a $5,000 Bounty for Proof that More than 5% of Credible American Scientists Dispute Global Climate Change

A funded campaign asserting that over 95% of American scientists believe that global climate change is real and is most likely caused by humans has been launched with a $5,000 bounty on TruthMarket, the site that enables grassroots, crowd-funding of challenges to political, commercial and science misrepresentations

Atherton, California (PRWEB) October 01, 2012

TruthMarket, a division of Truth Seal Corp., today announced that registered member, Ellen Davis, launched a campaign challenging climate change deniers to prove that more than 5% of credible American scientists dispute global warming or that it is likely caused by humans. The first person who can deliver verifiable evidence that significantly fewer than 95% of qualified American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause will win the $5,000 bounty.

The campaign was motivated by a recent Yale University poll showing that only 13% of Americans surveyed were aware that the vast majority of US scientists believe that climate change is real, and that humans are the most likely cause. “That is a big problem,” stated Davis. “It means that the average US citizen is confused or ignorant of what the scientific community thinks about climate change.” She adds, “This should be of concern to everyone. It is the scientific community that is most qualified to interpret the data. Either they have been ineffective in communicating and persuading the public or the deniers have bigger budgets to drown out the warnings.”

Quoting Anthony Leiserowitz of the Yale University Project on Climate Change Communication, Davis agrees with his observation that, “So far the evidence shows that the more people understand that there is this consensus, the more they tend to believe that climate change is happening, the more they understand that humans are a major contributor, and the more worried they are about it.”

To win the $5,000 bounty, a campaign challenger must provide verifiable evidence that significantly less than 95% of credible American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause.

About TruthMarket

TruthMarket is a division of Truth Seal, a California Corporation. TruthMarket is designed to be a popular online platform that enables everyone to campaign for truth in public dialogue. The primary objective is to increase truth and trust throughout the public information space – online and offline – by publicly exposing false claims and highlighting true claims. TruthMarket’s ultimate goal is to predispose all public dialogue toward truth telling.

Trademarks

Marketplace for Truth Telling, TruthMarket and TruthSeal are trademarks of Truth Seal Corp.

===============================================================

Here’s the woman supposedly behind it all, one Ellen Davis:

Given the similarity of the setting in the video, and the fact that it was uploaded by the same person who uploaded videos for other “Truthmarket” lectures, I suspect she might be an employee of the “Truthmarket/Truthseal” organization.

And, how many young women like her have $5000 to blow on a cause? One wonders where that money really comes from.

It seems darned fishy to me that she has no track record in climate activism that seems evident via searches, then all of the sudden puts up $5k, and she seems to be a friend of the founder of the program sponsor.

For example, in  Google+ she’s a friend to the founder of the “Truthmarket”, Rick Hayes-Roth:

http://gplus.slfeed.net/112303771962306500089

Here’s the Truthmarket founder Rick Hayes-Roth:

http://gplus.slfeed.net/109318101805445010104

I generally don’t trust activist organizations that tout themselves as champions of truth in the name of the organization; history has shown me that to be just psychological projection. Given the shoddy way this campaign is put together, with no strong definitions, I have no reason to trust the principals nor the effort.

==============================================================

Here’s Heartland’s Jame Taylor offering $5000 for the reverse proposition, also on PRWeb:

Heartland Institute Responds to $5,000 Bounty for Climate Skeptics

TruthMarket on Monday announced a campaign challenging those skeptical about catastrophic, man-caused climate change to offer proof that more than 5 percent of “credible American scientists dispute global warming or that it is likely caused by humans.” According to the campaign: “The first person who can deliver verifiable evidence that significantly fewer than 95 percent of qualified American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause will win the $5,000 bounty.” The Heartland Institute, which was described by The Economist this year as “the world’s most prominent think tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change, has published essays about the “Myth of the 98%” and the so-called consensus on climate change – both by Heartland President Joseph Bast.

James M. Taylor, Senior Fellow, Environment Policy, The Heartland Institute

Quote startThis so-called global warming challenge reinforces the ignorance and/or willful misrepresentation of global warming extremists in the global warming debate.Quote end

(PRWEB) October 02, 2012

TruthMarket on Monday announced a campaign challenging those skeptical about catastrophic, man-caused climate change to offer proof that more than 5 percent of “credible American scientists dispute global warming or that it is likely caused by humans.” According to the campaign: “The first person who can deliver verifiable evidence that significantly fewer than 95 percent of qualified American scientists believe in the reality of global climate change and that humans are a likely cause will win the $5,000 bounty.”

The Heartland Institute, which was described by The Economist this year as “the world’s most prominent think tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change,” has published essays about the “Myth of the 98%” and the so-called consensus on climate change – both by Heartland President Joseph Bast.

The following statement from James M. Taylor, senior fellow for environment policy at The Heartland Institute, may be used for attribution. For more comments, refer to the contact information below. To book a Heartland guest on your program, please contact Tammy Nash at tnash(at)heartland(dot)org and 312/377-4000. After regular business hours, contact Jim Lakely at jlakely(at)heartland(dot)org and 312/731-9364.

“This so-called global warming challenge reinforces the ignorance and/or willful misrepresentation of global warming extremists in the global warming debate. Most skeptics of global warming alarmism believe the Earth has modestly warmed during past century in the aftermath of the Little Ice Age, and most skeptics of global warming alarmism believe there is some human contribution to the warming. Accordingly, the so-called global warming challenge is nothing more than a straw-man tactic designed to mislead the public about the real debate.

“The true issue of contention between alarmists and skeptics is whether the Earth is likely to warm in such a rapid and catastrophic manner as to justify the economy-killing solutions advocated by global warming alarmists. I will personally pay a $5,000 bounty to the first person who can deliver verifiable evidence that 95 percent of qualified American scientists believe human-caused global warming is occurring in such a rapid and catastrophic manner as to justify the economy-killing solutions advocated by global warming alarmists.”

James M. Taylor

Senior Fellow for Environmental Policy

The Heartland Institute

jtaylor(at)heartland(dot)org

312/377-4000

The Heartland Institute is a 28-year-old national nonprofit organization headquartered in Chicago, Illinois. Its mission is to discover, develop, and promote free-market solutions to social and economic problems. For more information, visit our Web site or call 312/377-4000.

===============================================================

Here’s the piece by Bast Taylor references:

You Call This Consensus?

Joseph L. Bast –
July 7, 2011

Contrary to what you read repeatedly in daily newspapers or hear on television, most scientists do not believe there is a “scientific consensus” that man-made climate change (often labeled anthropogenic global warming, or AGW) is or will be a catastrophe. Unfortunately, the old/mainstream/dead media will be the last folks to acknowledge this, so people who dispute the “consensus” will continue to be slandered and abused for years to come.

It is important to distinguish between the statement, which is true, that there is no scientific consensus that AGW is or will be a catastrophe, and the also-true claims that the climate is changing (of course it is, it is always changing) and that most scientists believe there may be a human impact on climate (our emissions and alterations of the landscape are surely having an impact, though they are often local or regional (like heat islands) and small relative to natural variation).

The three different statements are not contradictory or mutually exclusive. Yet it is difficult to find a reporter for a major daily newspaper who understands this elementary distinction. Since reporters aren’t all stupid, we can only guess as to their motives for blurring this important distinction.

What evidence is there to support my claim? I believe it follows from a reasonable interpretation of the following evidence.

(1) The latest international survey of climate scientists by German scientists Dennis Bray and Hans von Storch found (quoting my own interpretation of their results) that “for two-thirds of the questions asked, scientific opinion is DEEPLY DIVIDED, and in half of those cases, most scientists DISAGREE with positions that are at the foundation of the alarmist case.” If you don’t believe that climate models are good enough to predict future climate conditions, for example, how can you “believe” man-made global warming will be a threat?

Unfortunately, the survey shows that disagreement and outright skepticism about the underlying science of AGW doesn’t prevent most scientists from expressing their belief that man-made global warming is a serious problem. This is the nature of a popular delusion, whereby bright people believe dumb things simply because other people believe it.

Bray and Storch are very coy in reporting and admitting the amount of disagreement their surveys find on the basic science of global warming. In an early essay in 1999, reporting on the results of their first survey, they remark on how a willingness to make predictions and recommendations about public policy that aren’t supported by actual science is a sign of “post normal science,” or the willingness to rely on “consensus” rather than actual scientific knowledge when the risks are perceived as being great. This is little different from what I have been calling the “global warming delusion.”

(2) I found pretty much the same thing in an analysis I did of Bray and von Storch’s 2003 survey. That survey found that only 9.4 percent “strongly agreed” and 25.3 percent “agreed” with the statement “climate change is mostly the result of anthropogenic causes.” Some 10.2 percent “strongly disagreed.” Fewer than half the scientists surveyed agreed that “natural scientists have established enough physical evidence to turn the issue of global climate change over to social scientists for matters of policy discussion.” Only 18.6 percent said they believed global warming skeptics receive “too much coverage.”

(3) A 2010 survey of meteorologists found that 63 percent believe global warming is caused mostly by natural causes, and only 31 percent believe humans are primarily responsible.

(4) Another 2010 survey of meteorologists, this one published in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, found only one in four American Meteorological Society broadcast meteorologists agrees with United Nations’ claims that humans are primarily responsible for recent global warming.

(5) The often-mocked but never refuted Petition Project” has, since 2007, been signed by more than 31,072 American scientists, including 9,021 with Ph.D.s. The petition says, in part, “There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” There is no comparable survey attesting to a widespread embrace of the alarmist position.

(6) A 2006 survey of scientists in the U.S. by the National Registry of Environmental Professionals found 41 percent disagreed that the planet’s recent warmth “can be, in large part, attributed to human activity,” and 71 percent disagreed that recent hurricane activity is significantly attributable to human activity. This is, admittedly, less than “most,” but it preceded the disclosures of Climategate, IPCC-gate, and five years of global cooling.

(7) The results of a less scientific survey were announced on the Web site of Scientific American, itself a publication with a highly biased coverage of environmental issues. Only 26 percent of readers of Scientific American responded to the magazine’s online poll saying they believe human emissions are causing global warming.

(8) Even Phil Jones, a prominent alarmist and central figure in the Climategate scandal, doesn’t believe there is a scientific consensus or that recent temperature trends are unusual. In an interview published by BBC News, Phil Jones was asked, “When scientists say ‘the debate on climate change is over’, what exactly do they mean — and what don’t they mean?” Jones responded, “I don’t believe the vast majority of climate scientists think this. This is not my view.”

Jones also acknowledged that recent warming (beginning in 1975 after three decades of cooling global temperatures) is not unprecedented, and is similar to warming periods that occurred from 1860 – 1880 and from 1910 – 1940. Asked about the global temperature trend since 1995, Jones asserted there is no statistically significant warming since 1995. Asked about the global temperature trend since 2002, Jones acknowledged global cooling, but said it is not statistically significant.

(9) One searches in vain for contrary data in support of a “scientific consensus” or the catastrophic forecasts. It certainly can’t be found in Naomi Oreskes imaginative counting of journal articles that appeared, in the non-peer reviewed letters section of Nature in 2004. A no-less rigorous study by Benny Peiser that attempted to replicate her results searched the abstracts of 1,117 scientific journal articles on “global climate change” found only 13 (1 percent) explicitly endorse the “consensus view” while 34 reject or cast doubt on the view that human activity has been the main driver of warming over the past 50 years. According to Peiser: “My analysis also shows that there are almost three times as many abstracts that are sceptical of the notion of anthropogenic climate change than those that explicitly endorse it.”

(10) A few years later, in 2008, Environment & Energy published research by medical researcher Dr. Klaus-Martin Schulte, who used the same database and search terms as Oreskes to examine papers published from 2004 to February 2007. (Note that DeSmogBlog reported in 2007 that E&E rejected the study and apparently never corrected its error.) According to the publication’s abstract:

The state of the scientific consensus about climate change was studied by a review of the 539 papers on “global climate change” found on the Web of Science database from January 2004 to mid-February 2007, updating research by Oreskes, who had reported that between 1993 and 2003 none of 928 scientific papers on “global climate change” had rejected the consensus that more than half of the warming of the past 50 years was likely to have been anthropogenic. In the present review, 31 papers (6 percent of the sample) explicitly or implicitly reject the consensus. Though Oreskes said that 75 percent of the papers in her former sample endorsed the consensus, fewer than half now endorse it. Only 7 percent do so explicitly. Only one paper refers to “catastrophic” climate change, but without offering evidence. There appears to be little evidence in the learned journals to justify the climate-change alarm that now harms patients.

(See also this link from Daily Tech titled, Survey: Less Than Half of all Published Scientists Endorse Global Warming Theory.”)

(11) What of the claim that “all” of the scientific bodies of the world endorse alarmism? Leaders of these groups are typically more political than scientific and they can be depended on to voice the current politically correct views on issues that attract government funding. They also do not poll their members before issuing statements. Even with all this in mind, it’s notable that the Polish Academy of Sciences does not endorse the “consensus” claims.

Britain’s Royal Society, France’s National Academy of Sciences, and India’s National Action Plan on Climate Change have all recently expressed skepticism or embraced important parts of the skeptics’ position.

The leaders of the world’s national science academies are expressing the same “cognitive dissonance” as the individual scientists that Bray and von Storch’s surveyed: they say they “believe” in AGW and fear its consequences, but they are skeptical of the scientific claims that must be true to support that belief. The Amsterdam-based InterAcademy Council (IAC), which is made up of the presidents of many of the world’s national science academies, conducted an audit of the IPCC in 2010. It found that the IPCC doesn’t properly peer review its reports, the selection of scientists who participate is politicized, the summary for policymakers is the product of negotiation among governments and is not written by scientists, and more. IAC recommends structural reforms to fix IPCC’s flaws before IPCC’s next report, due in 2014.

So the public declarations of national science academies may reflect the broader opinions and fears of politicians and scientists, but it is not an endorsement of the underlying science, and cannot be construed as evidence that the science is sound. The leaders of those very organizations have stated publicly that they do not believe the science is sound.

(12) What of the claim that the “3,000 scientists” who participated in production of the IPCC’s 2007 report believe in AGW? The IAC report described in (11) demolishes the credibility of that body, validating what climate realists have been saying for years. The IPCC is a political body, not a scientific body, and its reports are political documents. But just as important, the number refers to the number of scientists and environmental activists who participated in any way in the IPCC, often as reviewers of a single section of a single chapter. They cannot be assumed to endorse the reports’ conclusions because they were never asked. In public comments, many reviewers say they do not, in fact, endorse the IPCC’s conclusions. Very few scientists helped write or review Chapter 9, which addressed the critical issue of attribution – what causes climate change. John McLean found that only 60 scientists help write or commented favorably on that chapter during peer review.

So when someone says the IPCC reports are proof of a scientific consensus on AGW, you should say “the IPCC is proof that 60 scientists believe in AGW, no more and no less than that.”

(13) What of the claim that “97% of climate scientists believe in AGW”? The origin of this spurious claim is a 2009 online survey of scientists by two University of Illinois professors who claimed to have found that 75 out of 77 climate scientists (yes, only 77 climate scientists!) answered yes to this question: “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?” The sample size is bizarrely small – more about that in a moment — and the question itself is meaningless. Most “skeptics” believe “human activity” – which includes everything from clearing forests to make way for crops to the urban heat islands created by cities – is having some impact on global temperatures. This survey tells us nothing about the real issue about which AGW advocates claim a consensus, that human emissions of greenhouse gases are causing catastrophic climate change.

Regarding the sample size … according to Lawrence Solomon, the two researchers who produced the survey deliberately left out solar scientists, space scientists, cosmologists, physicists, meteorologists, and astronomers … all scientists likely to be aware of natural causes of climate change. Only scientists employed by governments or universities were chosen to be surveyed, introducing another source of bias. Of the 10,000 or so scientists left, about 3,000 replied to the 2-minute online survey. No surprise, 82% of that unrepresentative sample answered yes to the ambiguous question. The authors then looked at a subset of just 77 scientists who participated in the survey and were successful in getting more than half their papers accepted by peer-reviewed climate science journals and found that 75 of those answered “yes.” 75/77 = 97%.

This may be how sausage is made, but it is not how accurate surveys are conducted. The “97% of climate scientists” claim is garbage. Anyone who cites it ought to be ashamed.


Joseph Bast is president and CEO of The Heartland Institute.

Get notified when a new post is published.
Subscribe today!
0 0 votes
Article Rating
119 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Truthseeker
October 2, 2012 4:03 pm

Here you go, I claim the bounty from “Truth market” with this;
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/10/man-made-global-warming-disproved/
Just send the $5000 to the Jo Nova tip jar.
Thanks.

PaulH
October 2, 2012 4:08 pm

(I’m hiding behind the couch…)
It looks like I may have touched a nerve with some WUWT commentators when I mentioned the James Randi challenge in the context of this article.
Let me state for the record that I have no association or dealings with the JREF, other than having read Randi’s book “Flim Flam” some years ago. People more familiar with Randi may have valid concerns with the way he operates, but it’s not my purpose to defend him or promote his foundation.
I remembered some of the parameters of his challenge to those who promote silly paranormal cures, ESP, magic powers, etc. from his book and the JREF web site. It seems to me that a challenge (like the Truthmarket campaign above) should have some formal process of applying and well defined terms and conditions, and the Randi challenge seems like a valid template.
That was all I meant — nothing deeper.
(Back behind the couch…)

manicbeancounter
October 2, 2012 4:19 pm

When you have a name like “TruthMarket” there is a good indicator that this has nothing to do with truth or the open and free exchange of ideas. You find the Ministry of Truth in George Orwell’s 1984, which was about propaganda. He was merely parodying the ideas that were around in the 1930s. Now you have blogs called “Desmogblog”, “Open Mind” and “Real Science” and “Skeptical Science”. All use the words when they preach the opposite. Any objective person reading them, and comparing with genuine skeptical sites like this one, Jo Nova and Climate Audit will know that they parody the true meaning of the words almost as the “Ministry of Truth.”

Richard Patton
October 2, 2012 4:20 pm

TruthMarket isn’t really interested in the truth. I notice that they have challenges to prove opposite conclusions. (genetically modified food is safe/is not safe). It appears to be a site similar to polldaddy.com, surveymonkey.com, pollcode.com and a host of others where you can set up your own poll to prove anything you want. The failings of the challenge and the create your own poll sites is that they utilize the logical fallacy Argumentum ad populum, otherwise known as the Bandwagon fallacy.
Just because the majority of people believe something is or is not does not mean that they are correct. Examples: The majority of the medical profession refused for nearly a half a century to believe that pellagra, beriberi, and rickets were caused by vitamin decencies; the majority of the medical profession believed that ulcers were cause by stress, it was only until nearly the end of the 20th century that it was accepted that ulcers were caused by a bacteriological infection; and worst of all in terms of human toll the majority of the anthropological profession believed that black Africans and Australian aborigines were the missing link between man and no better than the ape. Thus the government of Australia in the early and mid Nineteenth Century passed laws authorizing whites to kill on sight any and all aborigines. History is replete with examples of where the majority is wrong and in most cases someone suffers because of it.
Our founding fathers feared majority rule and set up our government to limit the tyranny of the majority as much as they could.

Dodgy Geezer
October 2, 2012 4:32 pm

The AGW Creed
appointed to be read at all environmental conferences
I believe in Global Warming,
which will destroy heaven and earth unless we change our ways.
I believe in Al Gore,
Who conceived the Internet
and the hockey-stick graph, born of Professor Mann.
It suffered under McIntyre and McKitrick,
was crucified, disproven, and was buried.
It was cast on the reject pile.
On the third day It rose again.
It was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science,
and is displayed in a prominent position in all IPCC literature.
It will apply again as soon as global temperatures start rising.
I believe in the CO2 tipping point,
the IPCC Assessment Reports,
a CO2 sensitivity figure of about 3 W/sq M,
the accuracy of GCMS,
an anthropic cause for all climate variation after 1970,
and grants everlasting.
AMEN.

Louis Hooffstetter
October 2, 2012 4:39 pm

We should take every opportunity to hammer home the fact that skeptics neither deny the existence of climate change, nor question whether or not humans are contributing to it. Both are established facts. We only question two things:
1. How much of the current climate change is due to natural variation, and how much is anthropogenic?
2. Will the anthropogenic contribution result in climate catastrophes?
WUWT should counter TruthMarket’s bounty with a $25,000,000 reward to anyone who can provide reproducible empirical data that conclusively attributes 90% of the warming since 1885 to human emitted CO2. Like the bounty offered by TruthMarket, it’s certain that it will never be collected.

RockyRoad
October 2, 2012 4:41 pm

Davis is correct about one thing—there are indeed climate “deniers”. And these “deniers” will be the first to deny the catastrophic falsehoods climate scientists spew about the climate.
However, when normal climate is discussed, those “deniers” are instant “skeptics”, for that is the true and proper roll of any scientist, regardless of the field.
What Davis misses is the real reason only 13% of Americans believe in their fanciful hypotheses—she is obviously not a truth seeker herself but would rather blame level-headed people rather than the perpetrators of the lies regarding climate catastrophism.
(It is absolutely laughable that the “deniers” spend more money in this battle—does she really think Big Oil actually employs us like Media Matters employs shills for the Democrats? Truth is priceless and worth far, far more than what “(catastrophic) climate scientists” are peddling.)

StuartMcL
October 2, 2012 4:41 pm

RERT says:
October 2, 2012 at 1:26 pm
If you folks really want to give the team a hard time, become luke-warmists: “Yes, of course, CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and human emissions increase it. The rate of warming is about 2 K per doubling of CO2.
=====================================
You missed a bit:
… before taking feedbacks into account. Empirical evidence and logic both show that feedbacks are predominantly negative and that the actual rate of warming is considerably less than that.

D Böehm
October 2, 2012 4:48 pm

Dodgy Geezer,
As they say in Mexico, XLNT!

pat
October 2, 2012 5:05 pm

cognitive is the operative word:
1978: Cognitive processes in planning : a report / Barbara Hayes-Roth, Frederick Hayes-Roth ; prepared for the Office of Naval Research
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/8636197?versionId=9984627
Frederick is Rick:
Wikipedia: Rick Hayes-Roth
Frederick Hayes-Roth (born 1947) is an American computer scientist and educator.
He was the Chief Technology Officer for Software at Hewlett-Packard from 2000-2001…
In 2011, Hayes-Roth co-founded Truth Seal Corporation, a non-profit, in a response to the glut of information that makes it difficult to judge the veracity of information…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Hayes-Roth
on anthony’s link to rick hayes-roth, there is also a friend “nathan
hayes-roth”. on this hayes-roth page, u have rick, nathan and a nora
hayes-roth, Title Co-founder, Former Secretary and Treasurer at TruthSeal
Corp, plus an aaron hayes-roth (all SF, and UCLA connections):
Linkedin: Hayes-Roth
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/+/Hayes-Roth
Nora, Nathan & Aaron Hayes-Roth childhood education? all mentioned in here:
Directed Improvisation by Computer Characters
Barbara Hayes-Roth, Lee Brownston, and Erik Sincoff
Knowledge Systems Laboratory
Stanford University
multiple references at bottom show a B. and an F. Hayes-Roth (Barbara & Frederick, i.e. Rick)
http://reference.kfupm.edu.sa/content/d/i/directed_improvisation_by_computer_chara_120222.pdf
could this be?
Ellen Davis & Aaron Hayes-roth
Wedding Date: May 5, 2012
http://registrychest.com/wedding-registry/ellen-davis-aaron-hayes-roth/

Keith G
October 2, 2012 5:20 pm

All of this reminds me of Keynes’ analogy of a beauty pageant to describe the action of rational participants in market – “It is not a case of choosing those [faces] that, to the best of one’s judgment, are really the prettiest, nor even those that average opinion genuinely thinks the prettiest. We have reached the third degree where we devote our intelligences to anticipating what average opinion expects the average opinion to be. And there are some, I believe, who practice the fourth, fifth and higher degrees.” (Keynes, General Theory of Employment Interest and Money, 1936).

eyesonu
October 2, 2012 5:40 pm

Smackdown to the Nth power.
The implosion is an explosion. Now for the fat lady’s song, the final act.

TonyM
October 2, 2012 5:41 pm

Don’t know why skeptics would want to play their game with ill defined terms. A credible climatologist – does one exist these days? Five grand – truly laughable lack of confidence given they have all the nebulous, wordy escape hatches primed.
Keep hammering the unscientific nature of such surveys; science by survey is political science and not orthodox science. Science by stifling discussion on science is not science. Science by alarmism and exaggeration is not science. Settled science is an oxymoron. Their greatest scientist is Al Gore. Together with Mann and Hansen they are the best salespeople I’ve witnessed: true pachyderms.
Perhaps there should be a counter proposal that offers a big prize of say $1 million to the first person who can show that CAGW holds using the scientific method with clearly defined, falsifiable hypothesis.
That ought keep warmistas chasing their tails for a few more millennia. Either way the gravy train just keeps on rolling.

davidmhoffer
October 2, 2012 5:50 pm

I recommend everyone visit their site. They have several campaigns profiled on their home page.
One is a campaign to prove that genetically modified foods are dangerous.
And another one, also on the home page, is to prove that genetically modified foods are safe.
Plus they have the audacity to ask for donations to fund BOTH campaigns.
Want to discredit these guys? Point to that! They actually don’t care one way or the other on ANY issue. They most likely take a “cut” of any funds raised in the campaign section, and the bounty section is made up of similar statements to the climate bounty (that is, worded such that they are impossible to collect).

October 2, 2012 6:54 pm

They’d better watch out – it may not take as many as they think to upset their consensus cart.
For every credible scientist we find that disputes global warming or that it is likely caused by humans, they’ve got to find 19.
They’re trying to narrow the field by stating “qualified AMERICAN scientists”. And it will be them who determine the “qualifications”. There are quite a few non-American scientists that could be used.
We’re still trying to get them to answer a question – what fields can they draw from for “qualification” – do fields like math, physics and geology, count? How about English Lit? Or
If they trot out Bill McKibben or Al Gore as one of their “qualified American scientists”, they’ve lost already.

October 2, 2012 6:59 pm

Have to watch words carefully. Yes, we all believe that the planet is warming if that is what you mean by global warming. Is it caused by humans? Yes, humans have helped to warm the planet with land use changes and with their use of heating and air conditioning. Is global warming caused by C02? C02 may warm the planet by 1 to 2 degrees C. Will the C02 caused portion of the warming be catastrophic? NO, it will be helpful. I doubt if there are many scientists who would not agree with the above.

October 2, 2012 7:22 pm

I would think it would be best to have a license to vote on said subject, no?
But ,,,,,, I would be fearful that the Department of Justice would get involved!
Just sayin……………..

Justthinkin
October 2, 2012 7:55 pm

john robertson says:
October 2, 2012 at 11:31 am
Truth Market? Truth does not appear to be what they’re selling.
Remember,Truth is also spelled Pravda!

October 2, 2012 8:02 pm

Back in 2007, a media analysis team headed by Kepplinger and Post published a report in Germany with an article in Die Welt titled “Die Klimaforscher sind sich längst nicht sicher” (Climate scientists are far from certain). The published report is titled Klimakatastrophe oder Katastrophenklima? – Die Berichterstattung über den Klimawandel aus Sicht der Klimaforscher” (Climate Catastrophe or Catastrophe Climate? – Reporting on climate change from the perspective of climate scientists)
About 160 renowned German climate scientists were sent questionaires which over 120 returned, completed. Some who failed to answer, responded that they were either no longer in the field or admitted that they had no relevant expertise. Kepplinger has the survey questions and results online.
The resopnses to the survery show that scepticism is rife amongst German climate scientists. i.e. most of them are still thinking like scientists. IIRC, something like 97% weren’t certain of some aspect. Somewhat disturbingly, only a small number recognize that it’s impossible to model the climate system to produce meaningful results. OTOH: 74% recognized that the capability of climate models is largely exaggerated in the media.
It’s all in German, but it illustrates a more rigourous approach to surveying the opinions of people than the “never mind the quality, feel the width” approach of Skip Lewandowsky, et. al.

October 2, 2012 8:15 pm

Dang it! Further to that previous media research…
Here’s a useful English summary at the end of an article published in FOMA (Forschungsmagazin) Research magazine of the Johannes Gutenberg-University Mainz.

According to the majority of German climate scientists, media coverage on global warming has had a strong impact on the distribution of research grants and on the scientific process in climate science. Research on human influences on climate change
and on climate modelling has profited most from media impact whereas research on the natural variability and on climate history has profited only little.
However, the opinions of climate scientists who question the quality of data, theories and models (sceptical observers) and of climate scientists who believe in the quality of data, theories and models (devoted alarmists) partly contradict each other. In the sceptics’ views, climate modelling profits from the impact of media coverage at the expense of paleoclimatology. In the devoted alarmists´ views both climate modelling and research on the anthropogenic influences profit from media impact on climate research.
Nevertheless, even the majority of the devoted alarmists indicate that the mass media present a misleading picture of climate research. From these data one can conclude that the scientific process of climate science is driven by a non-academic force which lacks scientific quality and reduces its autonomy.

Mac the Knife
October 2, 2012 9:26 pm

They offer a piddly $5K??? That is lame beyond pathetic! And the ‘bounty’ is offered to prove the negative of what ‘credible climate scientists believe’ about man made global warming?!!
Chicken $hit…..

James Sexton
October 2, 2012 9:28 pm

Heh, I’m off to collect my reward! Yippee!

Ace
October 2, 2012 9:33 pm

Seems like this is very soon going to be exposed as the liberal circle-jerk that it is. TruthMarket apparently “opened for business” on Sept 10. Chris Mooney was already advocating for it by Sept 15. That should tell you something right there. Nice little incestuous club that’s posing as an independent fact-checking, or “truth seeking” type organization. Let’s see, maybe I’ll get my sister-in-law to post the first online campaign – so that it looks legit.
While I’d like to make the analogy that the warmists and their willing enviro-liberal minions are circling the wagons, that would be a defensive strategy. What we’re seeing here is a well coordinated offensive attack, where they’re trying to inundate all avenues with a bunch of propaganda disguised as legitimate unbiased information. But this strategy is so transparent to anyone not in their camp already that it’s just sad. Really sad.

James Sexton
October 2, 2012 10:05 pm

Holy hell? “FEE FOR PROCESSING A CHALLENGE TO THIS BOUNTY $250.00”