A new meaning to "WiFi hotspot" – increased CO2 may ruin future WiFi connections

From Tom Nelson: Huffington Post: Carbon dioxide could ruin wifi connections for your kids

Climate Change Effects: Things Global Warming Just Might Ruin For Your Kids

[Scroll down at the link above: The alleged CO2-induced wifi problem is #26 of 53]

Here’s the claim:

A 2011 report from the U.K.’s Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs found that climate change could affect certain infrastructure, like wireless internet. The Guardian reports, “higher temperatures can reduce the range of wireless communications, rainstorms can impact the reliability of the signal, and drier summers and wetter winters may cause greater subsidence, damaging masts and underground cables,” according to secretary of state for the environment.

And, the Earth could be visited by a race of super intelligent Wookie like creatures riding in flying saucers…demanding they be taken to the leader, and some HuffPo denizen offers up Al Gore.

I think the chances are greater of lightning hitting a car traveling down the road than a direct causation of widespread WiFi failure due to global warming aka climate change.

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MattN
September 27, 2012 2:00 pm

Do these people actually believe the crap they write?

September 27, 2012 2:02 pm

September 27, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Kelvin Vaughan says:
“No it’s true. Wi Fi hot spots dom’t work in California which has a hotter climate than the UK!”
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… and then it struck me ! This is clearly why the Australian Feral Government has embarked on a $65bn national broadband network construction rather than advanced wireless systems. These people are Einsteins ! /sarc.

D Böehm
September 27, 2012 2:04 pm

Mickey Reno,
It’s true, global warming causes more sex.

Quinn
September 27, 2012 2:04 pm

Or climate change could cause more homeless people to sleep under highway overpasses, and their smoldering mattresses could melt 60 conduits causing 8,000 Verizon customers, including large businesses, to lose their phone and internet connections for over two weeks–
http://www.eagletribune.com/latestnews/x1709875070/Verizon-expects-to-have-repairs-done-this-weekend

Green Sand
September 27, 2012 2:09 pm

Seems to be a bit “Wiffy”?

September 27, 2012 2:13 pm

Just turning off notify.

Billy Liar
September 27, 2012 2:25 pm

Here’s a direct link to the DEFRA report:
http://www.defra.gov.uk/publications/files/climate-resilient-infrastructure-full.pdf
WARNING: if talk of doom worries you; best not to read this report. Looks like it was based the UK Met Office fantasy forecasts of regional weather in the 2080’s. If you believe any of it I can probably unload that bridge I’m trying to sell.

Diako Troop
September 27, 2012 2:29 pm

If you think for one moment that we are even close to winning this argument I suggest you read the speech of this moron who, unfortunately, does have power unlike we who do not.
http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2012/09/24/ed-davey-speech-in-full
Wifi is the least of our problems.
Ivor Ward.
(Ex Liberal)

Billy Liar
September 27, 2012 2:30 pm

Note for Tom Nelson: a number of people seem to think that you are the proponent behind this story. You may want to make it clear to people that you are reporting a story from the maroons in the UK DEFRA.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
September 27, 2012 2:37 pm

It’s been making the news outlet rounds here in Central-Northeastern Pennsylvania that four teenagers in Luzerne County committed suicide in a week.
Given we have Happy Al in the schools telling our yougsters we will all fry and die if nothing is done to stop global warming, when clearly the global community is doing hardly anything and support for further action is virtually nonexistent,
With the assorted CAGW-pushing sites blaring that action must be taken NOW or it will be too late and catastrophe will be inevitable,
With the resulting emotional distress witnessed even here in the form of distraught young commenters wondering why we Big Oil-funded denying bastards are willing to let the world go to hell and let them and their descendents suffer and die just for our cheap dirty energy,
Is it now official that global warming (hysteria) causes more suicides?

September 27, 2012 2:38 pm

Here are a few quick facts on electromagnetic wave.
1) air does not provide significant attenuation, no mater how hot, humid it is.
2) the major sourse of attenuation is just free space loss
3) transmitters are tested to work properly in upto 60°C temperatures.
4) although transmitter’s power tends to be reduced due to over heating, manufacurers can just put in more cooling systems.
5) this story is pure Bravo Sierra

Billy Liar
September 27, 2012 2:39 pm

Quote from the report:
New road surface specifications, similar to those applied in the south of France, have been
introduced by the Highways Agency to adapt to higher temperatures.

It’s only sad that the UK is still waiting for its ‘south of France’ climate. I believe it will be some years before Spain can be towed to the end of the English Channel to complete remodeling of the UK to the ‘south of France’ specification.

September 27, 2012 2:41 pm

Thomas Spaziani, you are shooting the messenger, you frickin moron, an apology is required.

September 27, 2012 2:48 pm

“And, the Earth could be visited by a race of super intelligent Wookie like creatures riding in flying saucers…demanding they be taken to the leader, and some HuffPo denizen offers up Al Gore.”
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Hmmm…If they’re “super” intelligent (or even just “slightly”), they wouldn’t be fooled.

OpenMind
September 27, 2012 2:49 pm

Not that Globull Warming has anything to do with it, but my sat dish doesn’t like an overhead thunder storm as there is signal loss nearly 100% of the time. During tornado season, it’s an emergency weather radio along with the computer as backup. Likewise some of my acreage is clay, the really bad kind that gets up to 1″ cracks everywhere during a drought. One time we had about a one inch rain pour after a dry spell and a couple of hours later that section looked like it only rained a little as most of the water disappeared down the clay dirt splits. Putting any structure on that kind of soil requires some special care as it shrinks/compacts badly under load during a dry spell and can cause unwanted structure shifts.

lurker, passing through laughing
September 27, 2012 2:50 pm

CO2 seems to be a control knob for the AGW extremist. The more they crank up CO2 as a story prop, the dumber they get.

September 27, 2012 2:51 pm

“And, the Earth could be visited by a race of super intelligent Wookie like creatures riding in flying saucers…demanding they be taken to the leader, and some HuffPo denizen offers up Al Gore.”
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If you’re upset because your wife bought black velvet portraits of Al Gore and James Hansen and you can’t fit both of them on your bathroom wall, you might be a Green-neck.

johnbuk
September 27, 2012 2:58 pm

OK, that does it for me. I can put up with polar bears dying by the million, my grandchildren being fried alive and everything else BUT losing my wifi, no sirree. I’ve changed my will and cremation is out – too much CO2 probably.

September 27, 2012 3:01 pm

Peter says September 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm
The only ‘possible’ link I could imagine would be to water vapour. The frequencies that are used by wifi are actually ‘deliberatly’ chosen to be absorbed by water mollecules so that they don’t propagate too far. Its actually intentional and its how you limit to a few 10′s of meters range instead of 1000s. Now since there is supposed to be an increase in water vapour in the air with CAGW that ‘could’ in theory mean more limited range to certain frequencies that are absorbed by water.
This is similar to the microwave oven. The frequencies are chosento be absorbed by water …
That answer would be either:
A) Correct or
B) Incorrect.
In reality that answer is actually B) … incorrect.
The actual reason WiFi was placed there is it is a license-free part of the spectrum shared or “in” what is known a an “ISM band” (Industrial Scientific and Medical band) as allocated by the US’s FCC (ministry of post and telecommunications to the rest of the world) it’s a catch-all area where no sat up-links or down-links exist nor where any terrestrial uWave links were ever assigned …
Nothing to do with the absorption ‘frequency’ of water … in industrial food heaters 900 MHz is used, another ISM band …
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Steve C
September 27, 2012 3:06 pm

I see … Where can I get a wifi that works in the CO2 absorption band, I wonder?

September 27, 2012 3:07 pm

Jeff in Calgary says September 27, 2012 at 2:38 pm

2) the major sourse of attenuation is just free space loss …

(Trick question follows.)
If energy can neither be created nor destroyed * but only changed into different forms, into what form does the ‘lost’ energy of propagation (due to ‘attenuation of free space’) convert into, if any?
(/Trick question)
.

Ben D.
September 27, 2012 3:09 pm

Seriousky, if Armageddon doesn’t happen soon, we’re in for even a worse fate, I can’t live in a world without intelliigence..

Jimbo
September 27, 2012 3:15 pm

Bullshit.

September 27, 2012 3:18 pm

_Jim says:
September 27, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Jeff in Calgary says September 27, 2012 at 2:38 pm

2) the major sourse of attenuation is just free space loss …
(Trick question follows.)
If energy can neither be created nor destroyed * but only changed into different forms, into what form does the ‘lost’ energy of propagation (due to ‘attenuation of free space’) convert into, if any?
(/Trick question)
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The holy grail of CAGW, the missing heat?

September 27, 2012 3:18 pm

Steve C says September 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I see … Where can I get a wifi that works in the CO2 absorption band, I wonder?

Something in the LWIR wavelength area would do it … could use heated tungsten filaments as ‘sources’ (incandescent light bulbs) …
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