Last night at the DNC, President Obama released a climatic whopper to appease those donors that were threatening to withhold funds if he didn’t say something about climate in his speech. Prior to his speech, Joe Romm had the best line ever about the way Obama has been treating the climate issue:
Why have you and your administration been treating climate change like Voldemort — “The Threat-That-Must-Not-Be-Named.”
So, when Obama said last night ‘please send money’ :
And yes, my plan will continue to reduce the carbon pollution that is heating our planet – because climate change is not a hoax. More droughts and floods and wildfires are not a joke. They’re a threat to our children’s future. And in this election, you can do something about it.
…Josh sharpened his funny pencil:
Bonus funny:
At Climate Depot, we have this today:
Obama mocked for claiming his presidency can control extreme weather: ‘Had FDR claimed that he could control the dust bowl drought, he would have been locked up in a loony bin’
- ‘There isn’t one shred of evidence that droughts, floods or wildfires have increased. There also isn’t one shred of evidence that American voters can change the number of droughts and floods and wildfires’
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.
Marc Morano:
“Climate Depot’s Morano reminds voters: ‘Acts of the UN and the U.S. Congress or EPA, cannot control the weather'”
ROTFLMAO. Oh noes!
Robert Olsen says:
September 7, 2012 at 1:41 pm
It should be the easiest thing to make the US economy better. Just stop the war on coal. Anyone could do that. So it’s the will, not the ability, that determines it.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1787005034001/crisis-in-coal-country
Mark T says “…they want to control our lives. The “right” wants to do it through religious dogma, the “left” through collectivist dogma…”
————————————————————————————-
The evidence of collectivist policy, (not just dogma) is verry pervasive. What is your evidence of anything comparable on the right through religious policy What multi billion and trillion dollar programs are they proposing based on religious thought?
BillD: ” I really liked his speech including the comments on climate change, renewable energy and energy independence. It earned a campaign contribution from me.”
What a coincidence! Me, too – for his (slightly saner) opponent.
Mike Haseler says:
September 7, 2012 at 4:52 pm
“But proper healthcare is the right of everyone and it should not disappear.”
A right is not forcing someone to give you something of theirs. But Obamacare is not about heath care, it is about health insurance. Far too many people have spouted their ignorance of what insurance actually is and is not. You buy insurance based on your own perceived financial risk. Health insurance is purchased for protection against a large financial loss due to serious illness, it is not purchased so you can save a few dollars every time you visit a doctor. The choice is yours and yours alone. Requiring everyone to buy health insurance is actually forcing healthy people to subsidize unhealthy people. Now if you want to do that, you have every right to donate all your money to a worthy cause that will help unhealthy people. But you have no right to require me to do the same.
I think Obama was just posturing, and I doubt very much that he would do much more than that in his second term, because his hands are tied by America’s financial crisis. He said something which is trivially true (“Climate Change is not a hoax”) but he said nothing about how it should be addressed.
Nor Romney.
Climate change isn’t the great fault line between the candidates, which means it won’t be a point of debate because both candidates have too much to lose in discussing it.
Pharaoh, I am God.
Many, or at least some, cultural Anthropologist during the crust-able period (ended about the same time that Poli-sci became mandatory in University) of Theory vs Claim-fact articulated that all cultures require 5 components to sustain that culture. One of these is to believe in some purpose-power greater than thyself, all known religions.
Burning Bush – Washington DC. The purpose within humanity. An association of individuals, created by law or under authority of law, having a continuous existence independent of the existences of its members, and powers and AUTHORITY distinct from those of its members (one definition of Corporation). Collectivism for the masses of humanity separated from the Corporation authority. A 747 plus 2 C5A’s , 1 to 2 C41’s burn how many gallons- fossil fuel per hour? Today PRC (China) faith is collectivism, with industry semi separated from that god, the masses not even a part thereof excepting the meager taste of sugar.
Representative governance is dead. Political affiliation is alive.
Ian H says:
September 7, 2012 at 6:27 pm
I might just take a vacation from WUWT until the US election is over. Too many mindless republican sloganeers around here spouting drivel.
I really think it is a bad idea to try to make this a political issue. This really isn’t about politics. It is about the science. All Obama is doing is following scientific advice. I think it is bad scientific advice. But bad science needs to be dealt with at a scientific and not a political level.
Similarly I note that the NZ climate coalition have lost their court case against NIWA. Seriously guys – you don’t fix bad science in a court of law either. Wrong approach. Not only did they lose by they got spanked by the judge with an award of costs as well. Basically the judge told them the judiciary was not qualified to rule on a scientific dispute. Well duh!
The whole climate debate is basically a scientific question. It isn’t a court case or a political campaign. When too much of that other stuff starts getting in here I start to switch off. The best way to deal with disinformation and falsehood is not to call up a politician or a lawyer, but to produce information and truth.
Getting back to the US election, quite apart from the whole philosophical thing, I also think tactically I think hitching your wagon to the republican party right now is a very bad idea. It is never a good idea to back losers. And from where I sit Romney looks like a total turkey.
You could be right Ian, Romney might very well be a turkey but that is unknown at this point. What is not unknown though is that Obama is most DEFINITELY a turkey, to the nth degree, and how any thinking person in this country would want 4 more years of him is totally beyond me .
@chris B: Thanks for sharing the video. I’m currently living in Germany but soon residing in California.
So, this Obama type – is he a real threat?
Just kidding…
Obama: “And in this election, you can do something about it.”
Yes we can… and have a nice trip back to Chicago!
I agree that climate change is not a hoax. Neither is the tidal pull of the moon on the oceans or the presence of lions in Africa
Asking a politician a scientific question is like asking a 20 year old to make change without a calculator.
“Climate change is not a joke.” That’s too bad, I’m already laughing.
Well, we don’t know any of his other grades, but we do know he got a ‘F’ in science. Oh, and ‘F-‘ in economics.
A Danish comedian participated many years ago in an Danish election for parliament. The program was among many things, better summer weather, more tailwind on the bicycle roads, better Christmas presents etc etc..
He was elected with a very good margin.
Ian H says:
September 7, 2012 at 6:27 pm
And yet you turn right around and regale us with a bunch of mindless democratic slogans. Bad form, there, Ian.
Then, I say, let us have Thanksgiving dinner every day!
Every geologist knows the past is the key to the future. We knew practically nothing about Obama–ecept that he went to some impressive schools but we have no idea what his grades were. He was a community organizer and a member of the New Party. We know a whole lot more about Romney:
Mitt Romney is a member of the Republican Party and was the Governor of Massachusetts from 2003 through 2007.
Romney had the distinction of being the valedictorian for his class at Brigham Young University, where he graduated summa cum laude with a B.A. in English.
Although he then attended Stanford University for two semesters, he left to be a Mormon missionary in France for over two years.
Romney then attended both Harvard Law and Business Schools to graduate cum laude from law school and as a Baker Scholar in business with a joint J.D. and M.B.A.
Romney built his career as a businessman in the private sector, founding Bain & Company, a consultant group, which helped prominent companies like Domino’s Pizza rebuild their businesses.
He was appointed the President of the Salt Lake City Olympic Games Organizing Committee, which was in danger of collapsing from scandals like bid rigging, to reorganize and ensure that the 2002 winter games took place successfully.
This feat led him to becoming Governor of Massachusetts, which was in economic turmoil. Romney eradicated a $3 billion state deficit without raising taxes or borrowing funds.
Major Platforms:
Shrinking the federal government,
Lowering taxes,
Creating jobs by promoting trade and free enterprise,
Repealing Obamacare,
Reforming healthcare through the private sector,
Strengthening the military
Yup–I like turkey.
“President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people”
Clint Eastwood, 2012
You have to hand it to Eastwood, even at 82 he can still come up with memorable one liners!
Michael Jennings Said:
“You could be right Ian, Romney might very well be a turkey but that is unknown at this point. What is not unknown though is that Obama is most DEFINITELY a turkey, to the nth degree, and how any thinking person in this country would want 4 more years of him is totally beyond me ”
I happen to be a thinking person. As a thinking person, I’m not clouded by Republicrat propaganda. I do not watch Fox News, CNN, or MSNBC. I get the vast majority of my information from the internet.
Washington DC has been bought by corporate interests. If there is any hope to get integrity back into Washington, it has to come from somewhere other than the Republicrats. We need fresh blood with new ideas. As long as we continue with this nonsensical idea that we have to vote for one person to make sure that someone else doesn’t get elected, our political system will continue to be corrupted with the corporate Republicrat puppets that we have now. As a thinking person, that’s the conclusion that I have reached. Have you come to a different conclusion?
Lucy Skywalker says:
September 7, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Anybody looking over the shoulder of whoever is currently in charge of CO2 measurements at Mauna Loa?
Hi Lucy,
As far as I know, Pieter Tans is still the NOAA head of the CO2 measurements, including Mauna Loa. He is a nice guy (of Dutch origin), only interested in providing the best data available (even if he is a “warmer”). Thus if you think the data are manipulated: certainly not under his supervision.
The most recent ones can be found at:
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt
and in graph form:
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/
Doesn’t look like that the CO2 rate of change will go down any time soon…
RockyRoad says:
September 8, 2012 at 8:07 am
Ian H says:
September 7, 2012 at 6:27 pm
“I might just take a vacation from WUWT until the US election is over. Too many mindless republican sloganeers around here spouting drivel.”
And yet you turn right around and regale us with a bunch of mindless democrat slogans. Bad form, there, Ian.
More proof that the progressive socialists can’t think for themselves, thus their need to have a government that wipes their every sniffle at everyone’s expense but their own. All the rhetoric is a reflection of who they themselves are. They fall easy to the catch a wild pig syndrome.
Robert Olsen says:
September 8, 2012 at 8:44 am
That’s why I quit the Republicans and have joined the Tea Party and Freedom party. The fact that both the old entrenched GOP and the Dems hate the Tea Party is sufficient evidence this new grassroots effort isn’t backing corporate interests or socialist ideology.
The Tea Party stands for traditional American values, smaller government, and the Constitution. Anybody that doesn’t know that has been listening to devious sources of information.
Obama was a member of the New Party–dedicated to eradicating capitalism. He is also the subject of the movie 2016, which is being panned by the administration but is accurately described here:
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/082712-623654-2016-documentary-exposes-obama-media-bias-.htm
However, if Romney is elected and he turns out to be just another Progressive, the Tea Party will work to make sure he isn’t re-elected.
I often ask people how long they think it took our Founding Fathers to come up with the ideals contained in the Constitution and I typically get the answer “several years”. Actually, it was preached from pulpits and was the main topic of newspaper editorials for more than 60 years! That’s three generations back then. And if you disagree with what the Constitution claims, then you aren’t for individual rights; somebody has brainwashed you into being subservient to the collective. Good luck with that.
Ferdinand Engelbeen says:
September 8, 2012 at 8:51 am
Hi, Ferdinand,
Are you aware of the informal logical fallacy known as argumentum ad hominem? Regardless of what you may read on wikipedia, the fact that Pieter Tans is Dutch & a nice fellow is not evidence that he is truthful.
Further, the statement “[he is] only interested in providing the best data available” is an excellent example of ipse dixit.
Obama not only can control the weather, he can heal the whole entire World.
Ian H,
Explain this. And this. And this. And this. And this.
Where does the buck stop??
“Under my Plan, electricity prices will necessarily skyrocket.” ~ BHO
Oh dear. Please tell me this entire comments thread is a nightmare and that all climate skeptics are NOT right-wing redneck fundamentalists. Please tell me that at least some climate skeptics trust science over any faith-based value system including politics. Please tell me that climate skepticism is a rational choice.