I love the smell of climate desperation in the morning…

This is quite some headline on E&E’s Climatewire this morning. I’d call it “unprecedented”.

Unfortunately, the story is behind a paywall, so we can’t read why they think this way.

But it underscores the desperation that is permeating the mainstream climate community…they have come to realize that climate has become a taboo political subject, one almost guaranteed to be political suicide this year.

Add the fact that the Goreacle has fallen off the radar

And Romney got a standing ovation at the RNC for this line mocking Obama’s “healing the planet” speech…

“President Obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans,” pausing for the audience to laugh at the absurdity, “and to heal the planet. My promise … is to help you and your family.”

I think we can safely say that global warming as a campaign issue for the left is dead.

We’ll see tonight if Obama needs the money that bad:

Oh, and then there’s this:

Climate change so serious Democrats mention it once in over 80 speeches over two days

UPDATE: Tom Nelson has this worth sharing:

One of five Obama quotes that you may not hear in his speech tonight: “As we speak…cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya.”

1.  Obama: “We Can’t Solve Global Warming Because I F—ing Changed Light Bulbs In My House”

[Obama] I often find myself trapped by the questions and thinking to myself, ‘You know, this is a stupid question, but let me … answer it.’ So when Brian Williams is asking me about what’s a personal thing that you’ve done [that's green], and I say, you know, ‘Well, I planted a bunch of trees.’ And he says, ‘I’m talking about personal.’ What I’m thinking in my head is, ‘Well, the truth is, Brian, we can’t solve global warming because I f—ing changed light bulbs in my house. It’s because of something collective’.”

2. Rise Of The Oceans Sound Clip , Quote, MP3, and Ringtone – Hark

[Obama] “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow, and our planet began to heal.”

3.  Obama: My Plan Makes Electricity Rates Skyrocket – YouTube

Barack Obama: “Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” (January 2008)

4.  Obama Says He Will Control Your Thermostat, “We can’t drive our SUVs”… – YouTube

obama oregon May 17 2008 “We can’t drive our SUVs and, you know, eat as much as we want and keep our homes on, you know, 72 degrees at all times…and then just expect every other country is going to say OK…”

5.   Joe Soucheray: For those who believe anything, it’s easy to believe in Obama

“As we speak,” Obama said in Berlin, “cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya.”

h/t to Geoff Simon for the ClimateWire story

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69 Responses to I love the smell of climate desperation in the morning…

  1. omanuel says:

    [Oliver, you were previous banned for threadbombing off topic stuff, I decided to let you back in to see if you've learned anything, and here you are doing the exact same thing again. You've leaned nothing, so I'm showing you the door. - Anthony]

  2. Chris B says:

    “Add the fact that the Goreacle has fallen of the radar…”

    Wasn’t he last seen in Antarctica?……perhaps icebound?

  3. tallbloke says:

    American election time. The season of bonhomie, rational debate, and reliable promises is upon us.
    /sarc/

  4. SasjaL says:

    Regarding Al Gore:

    The well has dried …

    … looking for money elsewhere …

  5. gator69 says:

    “‘Well, the truth is, Brian, we can solve the debt if we change the f—ing dim bulb in the White House. It’s something collective’.”

  6. Betapug says:

    The rot had set in by the end of the 1950′s as US President Eisenhower presciently observed:

    “Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”
    .”…the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.”

    His 1961 farewell address is fascinating both for its sharp insights and the now rare spectacle of a straightforward man of great substance and power laying out the conflicting issues.

  7. Sean says:

    Why would roughly 100 donors threaten to withhold donations? Is it because they feel strongly that global warming….errr…climate change…..errr….climate disruption is the the most important issue facing Americans? Or is it because they have first class tickets on the climate alarmist gravy train and they want to ensure it takes them all the way to the station? Wouldn’t it be interesting to know who the names of the 100 donors/organizations referenced?

  8. Leon Brozyna says:

    Al who???

  9. me2 says:

    Most unnecessary sarc tag of the day award goes to….

    tallbloke says:
    September 6, 2012 at 8:14 am

  10. jones says:

    Yet the likes of Gore will, in truth, just move on to the next snake-oil sales pitch with no conscience and certainly no accountability…….That’s for little people I guess. Along with the swathe of new taxes his last wheeze has induced our political masters to burden us with.

    Same sh**, different package.

  11. Paul says:

    Climate skepticism may have the winning political position right now but it doesn’t support the case we are trying to make.

    Politics is not truth.

    I hope it is true that the public really understands that climate alarmism is a pack of lies but I think they are probably more concerned with getting a decent job.

  12. Pull My Finger says:

    We need to improve our radar technology if something as large as the ManBearPig can’t be detected.

  13. elftone says:

    Shhhh! You’ll wake him…

  14. more soylent green! says:

    I’m sure he’s not forgotten climate change, and saving the earth.

    The problem is, Obama’s not going to win by telling everyone what he plans to do about it. So he’s going to publicly keep his plans on the down-low, while privately telling these people what they want to hear.

    Hold on to your wallets, and your jobs, if you can.

  15. Pointman says:

    Obama is the Pear Harbour America narrowly avoided the second time, by not electing Gore as President. However, once again, “the sleeping giant is awakening.”

    Pointman

  16. Jason Calley says:

    Lets be fair…. Obama claimed that his inauguration marked “the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow…” Well, OK, look at the chart:
    http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2011_rel4/sl_ns_global.png
    The rise of the ocean HAS slowed. I don’t know why the CAGW crowd don’t acknowledge the slow down. I guess they are just racists.

  17. Andrew Newberg says:

    “Gore will be nowhere in sight”
    An accurate description of Current TV’s ratings.

  18. RockyRoad says:

    Maybe Al Gore was frozen in carbonite like Hans Solo way–they’ll bring Gore back in 500 years to see if his catastrophic predictions come true. How ironic they’d use carbonite…

  19. Barbee says:

    Since the question has been asked…
    Al Gore is out campaigning to abolish the electoral college.
    Busy little fellow that Al Gore, and oh so much smarter than all the rest of us.
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80680.html

    Have a great day.

  20. wws says:

    Isn’t Al supposed to be revolutionizing broadcasting with his new channel, Current TV? He even hired Olberman to anchor there! Oh right, they had to fire him again a few weeks later because not even the leftie’s can stand to be in the same room with him for very long.

    It’s funny to see how sympathetic outlets, like the Puffington Host, will go to great lengths to try and cover up how *badly* Current TV is doing. (but advertisers know) Look through this article on recent convention coverage; useful because it’s one of the few times we can see straight-up head to head numbers on a national event with a national audience, which gives us a very good window on competitive viewership.

    The article names the different networks covering the convention last week, and the breakdown. They point out that 9 different networks provided coverage, and give the numbers for each one EXCEPT for Current TV! Why leave that out? Because it’s embarrassing to point out just how badly it is doing, but you can still back their viewership numbers out of the data given.

    from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120829/us-cvn-tv-ratings/

    22.3 million total viewers, first night of gop convention coverage.

    6.9 million, FOX
    4.8 million, NBC
    3.1 million, CBS
    2.9 million, ABC
    1.5 million, CNN
    1.5 million, MSNBC
    1.3 million, PBS
    cspan not measured.

    That adds up to 22 million viewers – but they point out that measured viewership was 22.3 million. So, the difference is Current TV’s total audience these days – 300,000 people. Out of a country of over 300 million, Al Gore still has a loyal, devoted following of 1/10th of 1 percent of the population.

    No wonder Puffington wanted to bury the news!

  21. John from CA says:

    Add the fact that the Goreacle has fallen of the radar…
    s/b
    Add the fact that the Goreacle has fallen OFF the radar…

  22. Bob Tisdale says:

    Another classic headline, Anthony. Bravissimo!!

  23. beng says:

    Ugh. Like the televised DNC, this post makes my eyes burn & leaves a bile taste in my mouth.

  24. chris y says:

    I hope The Dear Leader will brag about His pro-climate results in tonight’s speech.
    Here are some highlights-

    US carbon emissions for energy have fallen back to 1992 levels*.

    Sea level- AVISO says- Gore=3.3mm/y, Bush=2.7mm/y, Obama=1.8mm/y

    Global temperature trends- Gore: +0.34C/dec, Bush: -0.12C/dec, Obama: -0.45C/dec

    With this CP**-certified data, the victory of socialism is assured!

    *Since this was mostly due to the bad economy, for which He has blamed Bush, The Dear Leader didn’t actually build that carbon reduction, someone else made that happen. In politics, this is known as a minor quibble.

    **CP- A common technique used in Climate Scientology to extract desirable policy-influencing patterns from noise, Cherry Picking is embraced by the IPCC, EPA, NASA, NOAA, WWF and various UN affiliations.
    See also PBEM (Policy-Based Evidence-Making).

    /sarc

  25. John from CA says:

    Unfortunately, most of the Democrats in Congress continue to sneak climate related nonsense into various Bills and Treaties.

    For instance, the Farm Bill contains language related to the expansion of the Clean Water Act which will now include roadside ditches and gullies on private property. It also expands Federal lands which is completely stupid as Congress currently doesn’t have the money for necessary maintenance for existing Federal Parks and lands.

    Kerry also attempted to sneak Cap and Trade legislation into the Law of the Sea Treaty. This is really evil as Treaties aren’t treated as standard legislation so they don’t get the same review and discussion.

  26. Shevva says:

    Being from the UK I ain’t got a chicken in this fight but a thought about Al-Gore, I think he’s been taken into the Epcot centre for an upgrade, bit of a stuck record for the last few years.

  27. timg56 says:

    Were I giving advice to the Republican campaign, I’d recommend they just run clips of President Obama’s comments over and over. Two of my favorites are the ones concerning those of us who cling to our guns and our bibles and how entrepenuers and small business owners did not create anything, the government did for them.

    I recently saw something he supposedly said on our national anthem – how it was militeristic, what with bombs bursting in air, and if he could, he’d replace it with “I”d like to teach the world to sing”.

    I haven’t tracked this one down to confirm if it is true, but if it is, it gets added to the top of the list.

    Personally all the stuff about birth certificates and is he a Muslim is childish. President Obama is not a bad man. He is simply a man with his own ideas of how America should look. And all one has to do is listen to what he says. There is no secret conspiracy. He makes it very clear what he believes in. Which should make it simple when deciding who to vote for. You either share his vision of America’s future or you don’t. Ignore the stuff about hope and change, about maintaining the promise for the future.

  28. frozenohio says:

    Moonbats on parade – I love it.

  29. Ian Weiss says:

    At about 99:56 in the Democracy Now video, Taylor says, referring to the time of the RNC, “..we’re having the most extreme hurricane hitting the coast.” Most extreme? Isn’t it amazing how effortlessly these folks make stuff up?

  30. Quinn says:

    It’s common knowledge that Al is way to busy running the Cannabis Network-er, Current TV.

  31. Did President Obama move his acceptance speech indoors tonight because of Climate Change?

    Yep. A change in the political climate.

  32. William says:

    Obviously the Obama and fellow democrats do not want to talk about the green scams. Leadership would be admitting that “green” energy is a scam.

    Wind Power producers on the edge of bankruptcy.
    “Problems at Vestas will bolster critics of renewable energy who say companies are failing to perform despite the subsidies pumped into the sector. The debate over green energy is particularly polarised in America and has surfaced as a major topic in the run-up to the presidential elections in November.”

    US and German solar manufacturers have reached bankruptcy.

    Regardless of the economics, the lack of driver (there is no dangerous warming as the planet’s response to a change in forcing is to resist the change by increases or decreases in tropical cloud cover, negative feedback) Western countries have mandated electrical utility companies produce electricity from the green scams. Higher costs for electricity, as is higher cost for gasoline a type of tax, reducing the amount of money families have for food, education, and housing.

    http://gigaom.com/cleantech/chart-the-death-spiral-of-solar-bankruptcies-counting/
    The solar death spiral has been long and ugly. Over the past year, there have been over a dozen stalwarts and startups that have headed to bankruptcy court. Here’s our chart:
    The solar death spiral has been long and ugly. Over the past year, there have been over a dozen stalwarts and startups that have headed to bankruptcy court.
    Two companies even filed for bankruptcies in this week alone: manufacturer Q-Cells, which was the worlds largest solar cell maker in 2008 and power plant developer Solar Trust of America, which just a year ago was on its way to build a few gigawatts of solar projects in the American Southwest.

    The fate of Solar Trust, which is mostly owned by Solar Millennium, is a reminder of the difficulties of shepherding a power plant project to completion, even when all the permits are in hand. Solar Trust’s crown jewel project was the 1 GW Blythe Solar farm in California, and at one point the company was set to snag a $2.1 billion federal loan guarantee to build it before it decided to withdraw from the loan guarantee process last summer and change the technology it would use for Blythe.

    Solar Millennium tried to sell Solar Trust to a fellow German company, Solarhybrid, only to see Solarhybird, too, file for bankruptcy last month.

    http://www.greenwisebusiness.co.uk/news/vestas-to-axe-more-jobs-as-wind-turbine-manufacturer-forecasts-sales-slump-3508.aspx

    Vestas to axe more jobs as wind turbine manufacturer forecasts sales slump Vestas is to shed another 1,400 jobs, bringing total redundancies for the year to more than 3,700, after the world’s biggest wind turbine maker slumped to a quarterly pre-tax loss. The Danish-based company, which recently ditched plans to build a plant in Kent, also reduced its forecast for current-year sales on Wednesday from seven gigawatts’ (GW)worth of turbines to 6.3. Next year is expected to be even worse at 5 GW.

    Chief executive Ditlev Engels said: “2013, as it looks today, is probably going to be the toughest year that the wind industry has seen for a number of years.” Vestas plans to employ fewer than 19,000 staff by December to save an extra €100 million (£79 million). It blamed the sales slump on delays to projects in China and an expected slowdown in the US. Problems at Vestas will bolster critics of renewable energy who say companies are failing to perform despite the subsidies pumped into the sector. The debate over green energy is particularly polarised in America and has surfaced as a major topic in the run-up to the presidential elections in November.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/q-cells-bankruptcy-heralds-end-of-german-solar-cell-industry-a-825490.html

    Bankruptcies Have German Solar on the Ropes
    The German solar industry is at a turning point. The bankruptcy of Q-Cells this week shows that the days of German solar cell production are numbered. Asian competitors took the lead years ago, and German government subsidies were part of the problem. It wasn’t so long ago that people viewed Q-Cells as an energy company of the future. At one point, it was the world’s largest manufacturer of solar cells and quarter after quarter, it topped analysts’ expectations. The company proved to be a money-making machine even during the financial crisis, with some believing it might one day grow to become part of Germany’s DAX index of benchmark companies on the stock exchange….

    …At the end of 2007, the company was valued at close to €8 billion ($10.7 billion at today’s rates). Q-Cells’ production facilities were located in the city of Bitterfeld-Wolfen, in a former lignite mining area in the eastern German state of Saxony-Anhalt. The area was even dubbed “Solar Valley,” a play on California’s Silicon Valley.

    In 2011, Q-Cells posted a loss of €846 million. As of last Tuesday, the firm had a marginal value of only €35 million and Q-Cells’ share price had plunged to just 9 cents. In Bitterfeld-Wolfen, concerns are growing about massive job losses among the 2,200 Q-Cells workers in the city.

    But Q-Cells’ insolvency also comes as a great shock to the Germany’s solar industry. It is already the fourth major bankruptcy in a sector in crisis, and it underscores the degree to which German solar firms are being outpaced by competition from Asia — despite billions in German government subsidies granted each year to the industry. And despite solar energy gradually becoming more competitive, the setbacks are rapidly mounting.

  33. klem says:

    Obama moved it indoors because they couldn’t fill the large arena, the empty seats would have looked bad on camera. So they moved it to a smaller arena. They said they moved it due to impending rain but they really are having a hard time finding people to attend in Charlotte. Lol!

  34. fret slider says:

    Gore blimey. Al’s been frozen out ; )

  35. GoCanucks!!! says:

    Way to go Anthony! Now omanual will be forced back to Judy’s site where he can always be counted on to get his drivel in first. Betapug comes in second.

  36. Louis says:

    If they’re relying on a politician who knows nothing about climate science to convince the world that climate change is real, well… that’s a joke all by itself.

  37. Chris B says:

    more soylent green! says:
    September 6, 2012 at 8:35 am
    I’m sure he’s not forgotten climate change, and saving the earth.

    The problem is, Obama’s not going to win by telling everyone what he plans to do about it. So he’s going to publicly keep his plans on the down-low, while privately telling these people what they want to hear….

    __________

    I think there’s a precedent for that with the President.

  38. Ken Harvey says:

    Seems to me that Gore has bailed out as he sees no more money to be made from AGW. Others with a financial interest might be well advised to follow his lead.

  39. Paul Marko says:

    Whether or not the climate is mentioned by either Biden or Barrack in tonight’s address, the subject will not be brought up by the mainstream press moderators during the three scheduled presidential debates. This might open the door for Romney to criticize the EPA’s role in shuttering coal fired power plants, plus the Department of Energy wasting taxpayer millions on Solyndra type green energy project loans. However, it wouldn’t hurt to cross your fingers.

  40. Mike H says:

    For a man of Gore’s girth to fall off the radar, he must have reverse engineered a Klingon Cloaking Device. Now that is something Kleiner Perkins Caulfield Byers could take to market without the vast subsidies/regulations needed to make those investments worthwhile.

    On a serious note, the day he is removed from their board of directors, is the day you REALLY know the renewable energy market is gone for a very long time.

  41. Tom in Texas says:

    Peter Schiff takes to the DNC to find people who want to ban all corporate profits, and he has no trouble whatsoever: http://bit.ly/QfN29c

  42. Morph says:

    Hang on, who did they select as their candidate ? And those other people who look the same in suits ? Oh well.

  43. SasjaL says:

    Sheeva on September 6, 2012 at 9:17 am

    ” – ”

    ROFL !

    The Green Economic Terrorist …

  44. SasjaL says:

    Hm, I wrote “Green Economic” but meant “Green Economy” … might work anyway …

  45. Warwick Hughes says:

    Al Gore is visiting New Zealand in a month or so. I wonder if he will swing by Australia. So close.
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/full-coverage/14682753/al-gore-to-visit-new-zealand/
    That should help the Obama campaign no end.

  46. Billy says:

    I would say that playing the enviro-card has lost its political value. Green activists don’t seem to understand what they are playing with. Biting back at the politicians is a fatal mistake. Having risen to the center of power, they will be banished to the wilderness.

    Or maybe I’m dreaming.

  47. KnR says:

    First rule of politics, get elected . Second rule of politics stay elected .
    Right now preaching support for climate doom breaks those rules and that is way their mostly keeping their mouths shut .

  48. There are few things more sickening than the American presidential race.

  49. bw says:

    Market forces can never be revoked. The AGW political freak show coincides with the rise of cheap internet communications. Politics is kryptonite to real science and engineering. The solution is simple. Free Market forces will remove the money away from the AGW freak show. Stop feeding them and they will stop. Eventually.

    The ideal practice of basic science must remain as free of external distractions as possible. Focus on the facts. Apply the scientific method. Formulate a clear Null hypothesis and test the hypothesis. For example, take the temperature plots for the longest running climate reference sites, plot the line of best fit. The slope of the line is zero. Thats about 10 years of zero warming. Time will favor the facts, the more good data the smaller the uncertainty in the time plots.
    The same could be applied to the Antarctic science stations. 50 years of data there also show zero warming. Those stations are not immune to the “global climate” so are clear refutations of the claims of “global climate warming”

  50. markbul says:

    Free Oliver Manuel!

    REPLY: Oliver has had plenty of chances to adapt good blog behaviors. Instead, he’s made a pest of himself in chronic fashion, so I’m really done with him and his crackpot theories. Let it be known that I’m an equal opportunity booter for skeptics/alarmists. Yesterday after years of taking his abuse, I permanently booted Eli Rabett aka Dr. Joshua Halpern of Howard University off too for his chronic bad behavior. I just down have time for these children and the stuff they do.

    Dr. Roger Pielke Sr. gave up on comments long ago on his blog because it is often a useless time sink. I’m contemplating that too.- Anthony

  51. Chuck Nolan says:

    blackswhitewash.com says:
    September 6, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    There are few things more sickening than the American presidential race
    ———–
    Oh Yeah, name one.
    cn

  52. kcom says:

    But it underscores the desperation that is permeating the climate community

    Anthony, please, oh please, oh please don’t use this unfortunate terminology. You are part of the climate community as are many others who don’t believe catastrophic man-made global warming (and/or climate change) is a proven issue. Call them what they are (catastrophists, warmists, AGW believers, CAGW proponents, whatever) but don’t cede to them ownership of the climate as a whole. It’s not theirs to possess and they haven’t earned that title. They are proponents of a hypothesis, not the owners of a pre-existing aspect of nature.

    [Reply: fixed. ~dbs, mod.]

  53. Ric Werme says:

    markbul says:
    September 6, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    > Free Oliver Manuel!

    I think anyone who posts an off topic comment in the first 12 hours or so of a post’s existence should be cut off for the next week or so.

  54. David Ball says:

    kcom says:
    September 6, 2012 at 3:48 pm
    Superb post.

  55. ratanu says:

    The earth is 6 billion years old (or 60,000 if you are a creationist) and current climate studies only cover the last 30 years. How could we even think about claiming global warming certainty with so little data?

  56. Eugene WR Gallun says:

    What’s Al Gore doing?

    I would be willing to bet that he is quietly dumping all his “green” investments. He knows it is over. He is going to leave all the little suckers holding the bag after he and other insiders like himself have cashed out.

    Oh! To have a look at his recent finanicial records!

    Eugene WR Gallun

  57. Skiphil says:

    OT: if I may, I applaud Anthony for booting Eli Rabett and Oliver Manuel. Bad blog behavior is a drain and blight on everyone, the host most of all but also on visitors/readers. I find Judy Curry’s Climate Etc. pretty well unreadable because of the tedious perverse tendencies of some regulars there, not limited to any one of a variety of viewpoints (I think she has a lot of good articles but I rarely look at the comments there anymore). Life is too short for such nonsense — thank you Anthony for all you do!

  58. Paul H says:

    Glad to see it is about science and not flag waving for your preferred policy option.

  59. Torgeir Hansson says:

    If the Republicans only invented one thing to distract Democrats from the real fight, which is for an economy that works for the middle class, climate change would be the perfect candidate. It’s a red herring, and judging by how it was handled by the DNC, Democrats are well aware of it.

    President Obama made one mention of it in his acceptance speech, and is now unlikely to mention it again, much less do anything about it for the next four years. It’s like Republicans in years past on abortion: lip service only, which is exactly what we have seen for climate change from the White House since 2008.

    Barack Obama will be re-elected. The stink factor around Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan is too high, and you know it’s true. Too many Americans will find themselves unable to pull the lever for them. And that, boys and girls, is a good thing. We desperately need to flatten income and wealth inequality in the country (we just passed the Ivory Coast in this regard), and our economy cannot function with so much of the country’s wealth tied up in so few hands. We NEED a strong middle class. The areas of focus will be wealth transfer, yes, wealth transfer, through education, expanded health care, research, and infrastructure projects. All good things, just like the GI Bill in its day.

    Climate change will get another few plane tickets to the nearest climate convention, where enough umbrella drinks to cool the planet will be consumed.

  60. It is certainly no joke to increase energy costs artificially to levels that the lower paid cannot afford. Are you listening Obama?

  61. michael hart says:

    “President Obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans.”
    LOL [as they say]. Did Obama really say that? The 3rd derivative of sea level?

    Trying to be even-handed and not wanting to take any particular side in the party politics, but it reminds me of Nixon’s “The rate of increase of inflation is now falling.”

  62. techgm says:

    If Democrats & NGOs are withholding contributions to the DNC/Obama, does that mean the money will be returned to the US Treasury?

  63. philjourdan says:

    Climate change is a non-starter as most people in the US do not care. The alarmists have not been able to show any crises approaching. But most people know someone who is out of work, and everyone knows that inflation is a lot higher than the government lets on.

  64. Allan MacRae says:

    Apologies if this is already posted.

    The problem with democracy is that 50% of people are of less than average intelligence, and about 30% are just batshit crazy.

    Regards, Allan
    _______________

    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/17370/Obama-goes-full-witchcraft-by-telling-voters-they-can-do-something-about-droughts-and-floods-and-wildfires–Climate-Depot-Responds

    Obama goes full witchcraft by telling voters they ‘can do something about’ droughts and floods and Apologies if this is already posted.

    “The problem with democracy is that 50% of people are of less than average intelligence, and about 30% are just batshit crazy.”

    Regards, Allan
    _______________

    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/17370/Obama-goes-full-witchcraft-by-telling-voters-they-can-do-something-about-droughts-and-floods-and-wildfires–Climate-Depot-Responds

    Obama goes full witchcraft by telling voters they ‘can do something about’ droughts and floods and wildfires — Climate Depot Responds
    Climate Depot’s Morano reminds voters: ‘Acts of the UN and the U.S. Congress or EPA, cannot control the weather’

    Thursday, September 06, 2012 – By Marc Morano – Climate Depot

    Climate Depot Editorial

    President Barack Obama’s Democratic National Convention speech declared that American voters can “do something about” extreme weather by supporting his re-election.

    Obama: “And yes, my plan will continue to reduce the carbon pollution that is heating our planet – because climate change is not a hoax. More droughts and floods and wildfires are not a joke.
    They’re a threat to our children’s future. And in this election, you can do something about it.” (For full Obama speech text see: President Obama’s Speech: Full Text From the Democratic National Convention – September 6, 2012

  65. Allan MacRae says:

    Moderator – my previous post on this thread got scrambled – can you pleas delete it? Thank you.
    ______________

    Apologies if this is already posted.

    The problem with democracy is that 50% of people are of less than average intelligence, and about 30% are just batshit crazy.

    Regards, Allan
    _______________

    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/17370/Obama-goes-full-witchcraft-by-telling-voters-they-can-do-something-about-droughts-and-floods-and-wildfires–Climate-Depot-Responds

    Obama goes full witchcraft by telling voters they ‘can do something about’ droughts and floods and wildfires.

    Climate Depot Responds

    Climate Depot’s Morano reminds voters: ‘Acts of the UN and the U.S. Congress or EPA, cannot control the weather’

    Thursday, September 06, 2012 – By Marc Morano – Climate Depot

    Climate Depot Editorial

    President Barack Obama’s Democratic National Convention speech declared that American voters can “do something about” extreme weather by supporting his re-election.

    Obama: “And yes, my plan will continue to reduce the carbon pollution that is heating our planet – because climate change is not a hoax. More droughts and floods and wildfires are not a joke.
    They’re a threat to our children’s future. And in this election, you can do something about it.”

    (For full Obama speech text see: President Obama’s Speech: Full Text From the Democratic National Convention – September 6, 2012
    http://nationaljournal.com/2012-election/president-obama-s-speech-full-text-from-the-democratic-national-convention-20120906

  66. Coach Springer says:

    Climate change may have been demoted as a voter motivator, something I am relieved to see at the end of this summer. But, it still lives as a regulator motivator, ranking above God in the party platform. The scientific basis for climate change isn’t nearly as robust as the political basis. In the political, you need only have the possiblity of something bad – not any reasonable basis or expectation. That’s why you have every major newspaper, every university and the president using the word “pollution” as a vague pejorative in connection with carbon. (Why not oxygen pollution then? It’s corrosive, you know.)

  67. G. Karst says:

    Anthony despairs:

    Dr. Roger Pielke Sr. gave up on comments long ago on his blog because it is often a useless time sink. I’m contemplating that too.- Anthony

    I assume the above vent was born out of frustration (not serious). Science articles can be found anywhere. It is the consequential discussion that most readers, come here for… IMO. It would be a grave error to assume that people come here to read the latest science. If you let people know that sufficient bad behavior will change blog policy… you will be inundated with bad behavior from the enemies of truth and open discussion. Don’t mention it or even think it… just ban them when they become numerous and continuously disruptive. Better yet, why not just get a few more volunteer moderators, if you can’t endure anymore? GK

  68. ratanu says:

    “The problem with democracy is that 50% of people are of less than average intelligence, and about 30% are just batshit crazy.” This is about the funniest (and saddest) summation of our current state. Bravo!

  69. Brian H says:

    William says:
    September 6, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Ugh. The next time you post, pre-read what you’re about to submit. What a mash-moosh of duplicated copy-pastes and broken excerpts inserted at random!

    I gave up trying to disentangle it 1/3 the way through.

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