Some days, you get gifts from on high.
Dr. Michael Mann apparently still doesn’t understand how his own actions invoked the Streisand effect. So, he compares people asking questions to the larval form of insects.
Steve McIntyre tips us off to this and writes with the driest wit possible:
From time to time, we hear from climate scientists that they are limited in their responses by the dignity of their profession. The dignity to which climate scientists aspire is nicely exemplified by the following remarks of a prominent real_climate_scientist:
hey trolls who have been given marching orders to flood the comment threads here like an infestation of beetle larvae: Don’t bother! We’ve seen the mindless talking points before, and coming here to parrot them simply (a) pollutes the otherwise thoughtful discussion in the comment threads here, and (b) exposes the intellectual bankruptcy of your climate change denial zealotry.
Here’s the screencap:
I wonder, has Dr. Mann just libeled everyone whose comments he has been serially deleting? The best part is Steve McIntyre’s response, be sure to read it here.
In other news, it has now been 10 days since Mark Steyn wrote the article that ticked off Dr. Mann, and now the backlash has sent him scurrying for entomological comparisons for lack of any better arguments.
Since the Steyn article is still there, I suspect that NRO has told Dr. Mann and his attorney to “go fish”. Well, at least he’s having bait delivered.
I’m reminded of this quote from Dr. Roger Pielke Jr.:
“If Michael Mann did not exist, the skeptics would have to invent him.”
Stay classy Mike!
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for anyone new to these issues, a tiny example of what Mann & co. don’t want you to know:
What peer climate scientists really think of Mann’s work but don’t tell the public
It’s pretty funny that you still don’t understand what the “Streisand effect” refers to. She wanted to conceal something; Mann wanted to expose something. While you were busy condoning the article which equated climate science with child abuse, you were doing exactly what Mann wanted, and bringing utter disrepute on yourself and all who associate with you.
“Dennis Cox says: July 25, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Don’t beetle larvae feed on dung, or dead flesh? Where does that put Mr. Mann in that particular food chain?”
Depending on the kind of beetle, some eat dung, carrion, trees (as pictured), fruit and vegetables. But since we’re all swarming in to a dung pit of his own making, I’m good with dung beetles.
The thing I wonder about, is he has to know that he’s deleting reasonable questions. And if he’s made comments about all the bug larvae that he’s cleaning off the site, won’t that make people wonder what got cleaned off? And he must be going crazy in places where he can’t delete comments such as those posted here. Steyn will give him a real workout.
That last line has too many syllables–it throws the rhythm off. How about:
Forests aren’t just one tree.
Mann and Real Climate deny that cliamte change happened in the past. They claim that it was local to Europe. But if temps changed in Europe, this would affect global averages unless they also changed somewhere else.
So, this means that climate must have changed, and Mann and RC are cliamte change deniers.
I’ve been blocked … trying to ask questions about his interview by TAZ (article in German)
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I’d have asked more but was blocked very quickly and the first posting removed. Next would have been relating to his “quoted” response:
At the tail of of the article, there’s a mini-bio which roughly translates to:
Still wondering why I called the Berlin-based TAZ “Pravda on the Spree”?
So is it a fun idea to go to his website, not to ask questions, but rather give him the serious support he needs to file that lawsuit we’re so eager to watch? If he’s not paying attention to real questions, maybe he’ll allow posting from the lesser of two weevils.
Also, since he’s deleting the facebook questions peeps are asking, perhaps he’d like those comments attached to @MichaelEMann instead. I don’t know enough about twitter, but don’t those messages get sent to everyone following @MichaelEMann? He can’t delete those can he?
The zealot calls this agnostic a zealot.
This agnostic accepts that there is climate change. Always has been and that’s the problem for him because I don’t think Doctor Mann is smart enough to figure out why. So, as a true believer in the faith, he invents his proof because he must be right or his faith falls.
Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make angry.
Michael Mann is a very angry guy. He is doing a very good impersonation of a spittle flecked rage-a-holic.
I am going to get more popcorn. The show is getting better and better.
A bit off topic, but worth bringing up, imho:
The ocean acidification cultists should be asked to show breaks in the marine fossil record during the times in the past whenCO2 was as high or higher. It is more difficult to contrive a fossil record than a hockey stick.
Mann Made Global Warming…….Empirical evidence NOT required…….Now that is a bit GRUBBY, Mr Mann.
Strange Penn State forum on April 30, 2012 which had Michael Mann, Donald Brown and other loony speakers: Changing the Moral Climate on Climate Change” oooops, might not be the best timing for Penn State buffoons to preach to the country about their exemplary ideas for a “moral climate”….
ooops… bad timing…. warmist alarmist at Penn State forum boasted that Penn State can ignore state govt and set agendas for institutions throughout society
With fellow speaker and panelist Michael Mann sitting close by nodding with approval, Penn State’s Peter Buckland says some astonishing things that should arouse some interest in the state legislature:
h/t Tom Nelson
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me: Even before the recent crisis the ability of Penn State to demand vast sums of money while flipping off the legislature and taxpayers of Pennsylvania was controversial. Now may be a good time to press the legislature and governor to increase oversight and controls for this rogue, depraved institution.
Bob Diaz says:
July 25, 2012 at 4:58 pm
“…should have to debate?” Are you kidding me?
You mean he REFUSES to debate ANYBODY! (So what you said isn’t the truth, is it?)
That’s because our little Mike E. Mann is a chicken. He clucks a big noise; he hides behind big words; and he relies on big institutions who make big money from his subterfuge to keep spewing lies, lies, lies!
But he REFUSES to debate–he runs away just like a scared chicken when confronted.
Just know that Michael E. Mann is the consumate non-scientist–he’s a dispicable imposter, that’s what.
His comeuppance is delicious to witness.
Beetle larva only generally attack rotten wood.. such as …..Mann’s hockey stick, which is rotten to the core.
Has there been any change in climate ??
The climate has always been highly variable, and very unpredictable.
Past history and climate reconstructions show this to be the case.
Climate is STILL highly variable and very unpredictable.
QED.. clmate has NOT changed. 😉
There once was a climate change beetle,
that thunks ‘there’s too many people’,
he consulted the weather fairy,
what sed ‘Say something scary’
and so he invented “Anthropromorphic- Climate-Change-Theory”
He basked in the light,
of the denier folks fearful fright,
and signed solid gold (c)rap record deals with IPCC Records,
until quite unsettled,
by a gathering throng,
that shewed he was wrong,
and he hung up his crown,
as the weather beetles King Clown,
and retired by flyin (first class),
to “dun-lyin’ island.”
Mike Mann forgot to say “running dog lackeys”. Bad form, old chap.
rogerknights says:
July 25, 2012 at 9:10 pm
…That last line has too many syllables–
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Must I post my poetic license plate?
[SNIP: So DeanL and EXP have been resurrected as TheInquirer with the same old snark and same old lack of substance. Come back when you have something intelligent to say. -REP]
Soon it will be time for a “Worst of Michael Mann” list of his greatest hits. He really is brazen, nasty, and impervious to reasoned discussion:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/16/booker-mentions-mann-mann-has-a-twitter-tantrum/
Wow. How is it possible that Mann does not realize how stupid he sounds? Seriously…there is no excuse for the fact that everything he says is indefensible – regardless of the supposed fact that ‘everything’ skeptics claim has already been debunked on RealClimate (have you ever read the comments on there?)
Can someone enterprising make us T-Shirts with a picture of a beetle larvae on it with some really funny slogan like, “I’m a proud Mann made Beetle Larvae” or something?
Any other ideas for the T-Shirt slogan?
Steven Mc contrasted Dr Mann’s eloquence with Thomas Gray’s stumbling efforts. He could also have quoted Shakespeare who presciently observed: “What a piece of work is Man(n).”
@wobble:
The larvae ate my tree ring / data / hocheystick
or
I’m cooking the books, but I can’t stand the heat
or
Climate is war, so truth is the first victim
Heh, Stevie Mac gave the Piltdown Mann a bad dream and he woke up a giant cockroach.
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In the UK, we had a puffed up, overweight, newspaper tycoon called Robert Maxwell.
He was a serial litigator, which he used to hide his many serious wrongdoings – eventually he drowned in strange circumstances.
Messrs Sue, Grabbit and Runne loved him and kept his name a dirty shade of clean up until his death.
A lot of people in high places conspired to keep the beetle larvae/public from hearing the truth about his dodgy dealings.
Just a co-incidence?