Dr. Michael Mann compares visitors to his Facebook Page to "Beetle Larvae"

Photo by Charlotte Simmonds of huhu grubs in a...

Photo by Charlotte Simmonds of huhu grubs in a rotten pine wood. They are the larvae of the huhu beetle, Prionoplus reticularis, the largest endemic beetle of New Zealand, a member of the longhorn beetle family Cerambycidae. The whitish larvae are up to millimetres ( ) long. They are edible and are said by some to taste like buttery chicken. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Some days, you get gifts from on high.

Dr. Michael Mann apparently still doesn’t understand how his own actions invoked the Streisand effect. So, he compares people asking questions to the larval form of insects.

Steve McIntyre tips us off to this and writes with the driest wit possible:

From time to time, we hear from climate scientists that they are limited in their responses by the dignity of their profession. The dignity to which climate scientists aspire is nicely exemplified by the following remarks of a prominent real_climate_scientist:

hey trolls who have been given marching orders to flood the comment threads here like an infestation of beetle larvae: Don’t bother! We’ve seen the mindless talking points before, and coming here to parrot them simply (a) pollutes the otherwise thoughtful discussion in the comment threads here, and (b) exposes the intellectual bankruptcy of your climate change denial zealotry.

Here’s the screencap:

I wonder, has Dr. Mann just libeled everyone whose comments he has been serially deleting? The best part is Steve McIntyre’s response, be sure to read it here.

In other news, it has now been 10 days since Mark Steyn wrote the article that ticked off Dr. Mann, and now the backlash has sent him scurrying for entomological comparisons for lack of any better arguments.

Since the Steyn article is still there, I suspect that NRO has told Dr. Mann and his attorney to “go fish”. Well, at least he’s having bait delivered.

I’m reminded of this quote from Dr. Roger Pielke Jr.:

“If Michael Mann did not exist, the skeptics would have to invent him.”

Stay classy Mike!

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Yep, a climate bully !!!

Can I be a lightning bug larva? (Glowworm) Umm, are lightning bugs true bugs or are they beetles? I’ll check after dinner if someone else doesn’t get to that first.

David, UK

Has Mann ever sounded more desperate than in that comment? “Intellectual bankruptcy of [our] climate change denial zealotry?” Hahahaha! Keep stepping up the ad hom, Mann, this is gold!

RockyRoad

It’s time to shun Dr. Mann–he’s an insufferable boor that tries to be the rock star of climate science and has done a tremendous disservice to humanity instead.
Let him boor himself to death; let him tweet and email himself–nobody should try to understand him because he’s not understandable; it’s simply not worth the effort.

Don’t beetle larvae feed on dung, or dead flesh? Where does that put Mr. Mann in that particular food chain?

pouncer

And while we’re at it, what ever happened to Tim Ball?
The plaintiff’s claims were filed in March 2011. Surely there’s been discovery by now…

sean71

And what’s the natural purpose of lavae and fungae?

Mike Ozanne

He really is the shiny little fly perched on the manu…. Never mind lets not upset the moderators.
On the remote chance this gets within cannon shot of a courtroom, I really can’t see the judge being that impressed by a plaintiff who jumps up and down waving his arms and yelling “Look over there, libellous statement to see” when the whole point is supposed to be how disgusting, degrading and emotionally damaging it’s all meant to be.

At least we beetle larvae can reproduce the results of our science claims. [;)]

Slabadang

A theatrical old diva living on memories from the good old days and the phone isnt ringing anymore!
And now she hates everyone who doesn`t remember her acting in silent movies. I can really see Manns dramatic oweracting gestures to fit a silent mowie.

But wait. The real story of this post by Michael Mann comes in comments just below his outburst. Read what comes from a worker at NOAA. Having sampled Mann’s invective, David Nicosia, is all about signing him up to teach NOAA employees and stakeholders. Apparently rude ad hominen obfuscation is the perfect skill set for NOAA workshops.
Here’s the exchange:
David Nicosia – I work for NOAA and sometimes we have climate change education and outreach workshops for NOAA employees and our stakeholders. Can I keep you in mind as a possible keynote. This probably won’t have until next FY at the earliest. Anyway, miss happy valley and hope all this turmoil settles down…especially the cllimate stuff but also everything else. cheers.
Yesterday at 09:54 · 1
Michael E. Mann – Would love to David. Feel free to contact me off-line about this
Yesterday at 10:02 via Mobile · 1
David Nicosia – – certainly…will do. have a great day.
Yesterday at 10:04 · 1

Isn’t this akin to kicking a man when he is down? Not simply down, but laying spread-eagled on his back and peeing in the air? Ah. I just remembered why I despise the man and have come to my senses. Nevermind! 😉

u.k.(us)

Talk about underestimating your foe.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)

Gee, I would have thought he’d welcome beetle larvae, since going by tree ring width the worst infestations happen in the colder years.
Maybe he’s simply worried about beetle larvae causing too many holes in his Hockey Sticks. It’s getting harder to handpick proper trees for them.

Skiphil

The “otherwise thoughtful discussion” of the Manniac’s Facebook page consists largely of his adoring fans mindlessly kissing his digital posterior.
Mann’s vitriolic emails from Climategate showed that he is a vicious politicized hack. He is more at home in rabid far-left webzines than in “thoughtful discussion” of anything.

dearieme

Micky Mann is a dignity denialist.

pat

Lot of arrogance for a guy living off the discredited work of another.

rogerknights

Stay classy Mike!

A few years after Nixon was out of office, he made some gaffe, which a commenter in New York magazine quoted without comment and headlined, “Aging Like a Fine Cheese.” Boy, that made me laugh.

Mike Mann does not know the difference between a Beetle larvae and an upside down sediment record!

Is….’man-bear-pig’….morphing to….’beetle-larvae-bully’….a normal phase change ?

Bill

He forgot to add that we are financed by Big Oil or the Kochtopus or something.
/sarc

Mr. Mann is now lower than the actual larvae on the cell floor with Jerry Sandusky. Let’s hope he keeps digging.

John M

coalsoffire says:
July 25, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Apparently rude ad hominen obfuscation is the perfect skill set for NOAA workshops.

Well, should it come to pass, one would hope that Mann can get control of his outbursts, since NOAA issued a Code of Conduct last December, which includes:

Professional, courteous, and fair in working with others and respectful of the ideas of others and:
Neither unfairly hinder the scientific activities of others nor engage in dishonesty, fraud, deceit, misrepresentation, coercive manipulation, or other scientific or research misconduct.
Provide constructive, objective, and frank evaluation to others on their scientific activities as appropriate for standards of respectful peer review, and accept constructive critique from others.
Contribute to open and respectful scientific discourse that adheres to scientific standards for reporting results and conclusions and respects the intellectual property rights of others, including acknowledging and crediting prior work.
The Code seems to apply to “contractors” as well.
http://www.corporateservices.noaa.gov/ames/administrative_orders/chapter_202/202-735-D.html

Old Nanook

Perhaps Dr. Mann could send Ben Santer to “beat up” some people, including Mark Steyn. I would really like it if they would come for me.

timetochooseagain

Steve closed his thread on the subject. A shame, I would have like the chance to rebut the claim made by a commenter about pine beetles and AGW. The implication was that outbreaks of the beetles are increasing (due to AGW, naturally) and this is bad, because they make fires worse. Er, little problem with that last part:
http://www.cfc.umt.edu/cesu/NEWCESU/Assets/Individual%20Project%20Reports/NPS%20Projects/CSU/2006/06Romme_YELL_beetles_article.pdf
“This study has shown that a linked disturbance interaction likely exists between MPB outbreaks and wildfire in lodgepole pine forests of the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. The direction of the interaction is opposite to what is widely presumed by the public, in that our study predicts a reduction in most measures of fire intensity for up to 35 years after a beetle outbreak, including a reduced probability of active crown fire.”
“Our overall conclusion was that the linkage of prior MPB disturbance to future fire disturbance generally results in a dampening, rather than an amplification, of fire behavior and intensity.”

Skiphil

[cross-posted with BH] Mann cannot dare to allow serious legal and public attention to his record. He’s not that crazy. He’s re-writing history with is book and book tour, but he would not dare to have to face legal discovery and cross-examination from a well-prepped attorney. Just remember how ridiculous the Penn State “inquiry” really was, Mann has skated free until now with pal reviews and cushy protections:
Clive Crook in The Atlantic on ludicrous Penn State “inquiry” on Mann (July 14, 2010)

“The Penn State inquiry exonerating Michael Mann — the paleoclimatologist who came up with “the hockey stick” — would be difficult to parody. Three of four allegations are dismissed out of hand at the outset: the inquiry announces that, for “lack of credible evidence”, it will not even investigate them. (At this, MIT’s Richard Lindzen tells the committee, “It’s thoroughly amazing. I mean these issues are explicitly stated in the emails. I’m wondering what’s going on?” The report continues: “The Investigatory Committee did not respond to Dr Lindzen’s statement. Instead, [his] attention was directed to the fourth allegation.”) Moving on, the report then says, in effect, that Mann is a distinguished scholar, a successful raiser of research funding, a man admired by his peers — so any allegation of academic impropriety must be false.”

Ally E.

Upset, is he? Oh.

Don

To quote, quote, quote him,
Is to mock, mock, mock him.
And we do,
And we do,
And we doooooo.

Gail Combs

pouncer says:
July 25, 2012 at 3:09 pm
And while we’re at it, what ever happened to Tim Ball?
The plaintiff’s claims were filed in March 2011. Surely there’s been discovery by now…
_________________
I read here at WUWT that Mann is stalling discovery. The ball is now in the hands of the court.

eyesonu

30 years worth of scam is crumbling. Man has cracked and was a pillar of the foundation. How much albedo from the dust of the collapse of CAGW? There may be serious global cooling for years to come. Therefore, CAGW causes global cooling as a result of the collapse of global warming. See, it’s too complicated for us mere mortals to understand.
When the dust clears we may be in another ice age, and before I have finished contributing to CO2 increase by the results of my breathing.
.

PaulH

Hey, maybe Mann has a sense of humour after all. ;->

Well, in fairness, is is referring to facebook, after all.

Andrew30

When does he get a statue?
I heard that there was an opening.

mfo

If he doesn’t want to attract beetles he should stop secreting pheromones.

Keith Pearson, Formerly bikermailman, Anon No Longer

I’d say that as with another…public figure, the heat is getting to Dr. Mann. Again, as with other unnamed yet visible personas, being publicly questioned, then made fun of, doesn’t seem to compute. Are we approaching critical mass? Pop up the Redenbacher’s and see what happens next!

KnR

Mann comes across as rather an unpleasant person , the odd thing is his view the fellows in ‘the Team ‘ in little better light than he does AGW sceptics . When he falls the nature of the people lining up to kick him on the way down , I think will surprise many people .
Keep him in the spot light, keep him under pressure and watch him blow

David Ross

Let’s not forget David Suzuki’s acidhead assertion that all of humanity are maggots. But some maggots are more equal than others.

Sundance

I spend a fair bit of time on facebook. However , it looks like Mann spends a whole lot more time on there, judging by his number of posts. I guess when the science is settled, one need not do any more research. Instead, receive a long series of smug sycophants, if indeed such a thing exists.

Scarface

As we say in Holland: ‘Hollow vassels sound the loudest’.
QED
So, finally some scientific use from Michael Mann!

Gail Combs

Andrew30 says:
July 25, 2012 at 4:14 pm
When does he get a statue?
I heard that there was an opening.
___________________
Perhaps they need a statue of Mann to replace this one

Mann has not filed suit yet.
Of course, in most jurisdictions, he will have up to a year before the statute of limitations will expire.
But sending a strongly worded demand letter, and then NOT filing suit does a certain amount of damage to the credibility of any future protestations.

Slightly, but not completely, o/t. Mann’s bahaviour reminded me.
I’ve seen a lot of poisonous stuff in the course of reading the climate science blogs, but never have I seen so much venom and false accusations packed into a short email, as one received today by a friend of mine, that implicated me.
What was most telling was the use of the phrase:

We know who you are, and we know where you live.

I’m thankful to WUWT for opening my eyes to the jaundice, bile, and gangrene going by the name of Green. Thankful, yet I still care about green values myself that also include courtesy, truth, justice, humanity, and compassion.

John M. Chenosky, PE

This is why scientists can’t be trusted with making policy determinations. Only professsional engineers, who can lose their licences, have the ability to see the big picture, or the balls to make the important calls.

Bruce Cobb

The feeling is mutual, Mikey. All of your bluster and puffery isn’t going to keep you from the state pen, though.

pouncer says:
July 25, 2012 at 3:09 pm
And while we’re at it, what ever happened to Tim Ball?
The plaintiff’s claims were filed in March 2011. Surely there’s been discovery by now…

This link will bring you up to date.
http://johnosullivan.wordpress.com/
From the link…
(1.) The “Truth Defense” to Libel
Canadian courts offer the defendant in a libel lawsuit the unique opportunity to pursue the “truth defense.“ Ball has sagely opted to pursue that path rather than, for example, the “fair comment” defense. This is because the “truth defense” places a higher – more onerous – evidential burden on the parties. This means any and all evidence demanded by either party in the ongoing discovery process must be revealed. So effective can the “truth defense” be that some cynics refer to it as the “scorched earth” defense.
(2.) “Spoliation”: The Intentional Withholding/Destruction of Evidence
Since 2008 we can give thanks that Canada has beefed up it’s due process laws to punish litigants that intentionally withhold or destroy evidence (e.g. see McDougall v. Black & Decker Canada Inc.,[1.]). This means that Mann’s lawyer, Roger McConchie, cannot persist in indefinitely stalling over compliance with Ball’s motion to hand over those “hockey stick” r-squared correlation coefficient numbers.

He’s right, eh?!!
hth and Cheers

rogerknights

“The Penn State inquiry exonerating Michael Mann — the paleoclimatologist who came up with “the hockey stick” — would be difficult to parody. Three of four allegations are dismissed out of hand at the outset: the inquiry announces that, for “lack of credible evidence”, it will not even investigate them. (At this, MIT’s Richard Lindzen tells the committee, “It’s thoroughly amazing. I mean these issues are explicitly stated in the emails. I’m wondering what’s going on?” The report continues: “The Investigatory Committee did not respond to Dr Lindzen’s statement. Instead, [his] attention was directed to the fourth allegation.”) Moving on, the report then says, in effect, that Mann is a distinguished scholar, a successful raiser of research funding, a man admired by his peers — so any allegation of academic impropriety must be false.”

Maybe a Penn State Vindication will come into common use as a phrase like “whitewash,” or “sweep under the rug” or “turn a blind eye” as a synonym for a cover-up. Or perhaps “A PSV”? A “Penn Wash?” “A Nitany Nay-So”?

David Ross
David Larsen

A doctor of: Dumb, Dumber or Dumbest?

neill

coalsoffire says:
July 25, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Appears NOAA, worried about an infestation of their own, is hiring Mann as the exterminator.,