Clouded thinking
There seems to be a disturbance in the farce. Peter J. Simmons uses the WUWT Submit Story link (making it fair game to publish) to send this fine example of climate delusion in action, complete with “you people” and big oil claims.
Further down we have a death threat style email from Marc Morano he shared today. I’m sure David Appell will get right on it.
Peter J. Simmons writes:
Story body: You’re too busy for this to be a hobby. So it’s your job unless you are independently wealthy. Are you paid by oil companies to spread disinformation? If you live on the East Coast you may have cause to start wondering if your career choice was sensible.
But any way, the environment will catch up with you people, as every day brings more ‘extreme’ weather events, records for rainfall broken repeatedly [the north of England and Scotland just had a month’s rain in 24 hours, in June, one of many records broken] and extreme weather is becoming the norm around the world.
Rather than spending your life copying and pasting this garbage [do you actually create any of it?] you would be advised to step outside occasionally into the real world and experience what is happening to the climate in real time, in reality, you know, on your skin. So much effort, energy and activity to deny reality, and your epitaph will be ‘He got it wrong’.
‘It don’t take a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows’.
Short summary: http://planetark.org/wen/65757
A couple of points.
1. I do get outside, for example- the head photo in this post is of clouds taken by me last night near my home, I found the mix of lower level cumulus constrained by the LCL juxtaposed with the higher patterned cirrus interesting.
2. I don’t get any funding from big oil, small oil, or coal companies or energy companies of any kind. Yes I’m busy, yes I write a lot of my own material, combined with guest posts and press releases. Your assertions are just talking points fabricated by the haters with no basis. If I was funded by “big oil” or independently wealthy, would I need to do things like this (yes, another outside excursion)?
3. As for my epitaph, I’ve already written it into my will to be inscribed on my tombstone, you’ll just have to wait.
Here’s Marc Morano’s hate mail today, equally entertaining. He writes:
I wonder if Australian media would be interested in hate/threatening mail i recieved today. Abc News? I would send a taunting email back, but it is most likely fake email return address.
From: Fuk Yu <fuckyou@fucktard.com>
Sent: Tue Jun 26 11:44:29 EDT 2012
To: morano@climatedepot.com
Subject: leave the scientists alone
I will have a nice long drive up to DC and have a very short and unpleasant conversation with your ass if you don”t stop harrassing scientists.
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Greens need higher quality trolls. – Anthony
UPDATE: It seems that there must be something in the air today…more examples from Tom Nelson:
Classy: Warmist Brad Johnson tweets using hashtag “#suckitdeniers”
Twitter / climatebrad: #climategate smackdown
#climategate smackdown: “Petitioners have not, as they assert, uncovered a ‘pattern’ of flawed science.” #suckitdeniers
Brad Johnson (climatebrad) on Twitter
Campaign Manager for Forecast the Facts (@ForecastFacts). Former ThinkProgress Green Editor at the Center for American Progress.
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Left-wing warmist Roger Ebert: “Global Warming Deniers shouting their denials through snorkels”
Twitter / ebertchicago: Sea level rising 3-4 times
Sea level rising 3-4 times faster on East Coast. Global Warming Deniers shouting their denials through snorkels.
I love that the guy links to the story about sea level rise being higher on the east coast:
So let’s see. They claim that for the last 20 years the sea level rise has been about 1—3 mm/year higher in New York, meaning that since 1990 the sea level is about one to three inches higher in New York … and somehow this has changed the flooding??? I don’t think so.
I also love the idea that such a differential will continue over the next century, such that we’ll have a huge bulge in the ocean off the east coast, and boats will have to go uphill to get to New York …
w.
PS—At least the National Geographic had some sense about the issue, saying:
Hi Anthony – You just keep it up I find the approach of much of the material presented to be spot on. I do enjoy the show immensely. More popcorn!
ANH says:
June 26, 2012 at 11:07 am
It’s a shame Mr Morano wasn’t using his spillchucker. ‘recieved’ Yuck!!!!
Chiep shawt.
Yet another nutjob:
Oil Companies Fear Financial Impacts of Climate Change (+ Global Warming & Climate Change News Roundup)
And the formerly respected weather guy Paul Douglas is one of hos many CAGW rants at www,startribune.com:
Hey Paul – weather changes – always has. And the last 100 years changes are nothing unusual compared to the last 10,000 years, let a lone a single glacial cycle
From: Foul Yap
Sent: Tue Jun 26 11:44:29 EDT 2012
To: morano@climatedepot.com
Subject: leave the scientists alone
“I will have a nice long drive up to DC and have a very short and unpleasant conversation with your ass if you don”t stop harrassing scientists.”
You have my abject sympathies, Mr. Morano.
These types of comments are representative of what many of us receive on occasion. Why this individual desires an ‘unpleasant conversation’ with your posterior areas defies logic, however, I’m confident your posterior is more intelligent, accurately informed, and considerably more eloquent that your tormentors entire personae non gratae.
All the best to you, Sir!
MtK
The Gray Monk said @ur momisugly June 26, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Anybody know if there’s a youtube of the young female TV reporter ankle deep in water talking about the record flood level while completely oblivious to the sign on the wall above her head indicating the flood level reached back in the 1920s or 30s? It was shot in a British pub IIRC.
He can have a conversation with my @ur momisugly$$ is he wants, but he won’t like what my @ur momisugly$$ has to say, or how it says it!
Popular Science on the job. Love the detailed scientific explanation:
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-06/study-says-california-sea-levels-will-rise-more-five-feet-century
There are a lot of reasons why a coast in one country–or even different pars of the same coast–would get hit harder by rising sea levels than another. For one, climate change’s effects aren’t consistent across the globe as ice caps and glaciers melt; ocean currents, water salinity, water temperature, and other factors could all change how much water creeps over and onto land. Those variables combine to separate the local from the global. The East Coast stretch and California drew the geological short straw in the short term, but the rest of the world will eventually feel the pressure as well.
Willis Eschenbach said @ur momisugly June 26, 2012 at 12:16 pm
They already necessarily go uphill if they are sailing there from the Maldives for example, something those ignorant of geomatics remain blissfully unaware of. Not that I’m suggesting Willis is ignorant of such things…
Heavy rain in the UK in June is normal weather! I’ve had many holidays ruined.
It was not a record, It was wetter 150 years ago.
An interesting mapping tool from NOAA – US Contiguous Temperature since 1896 ….thru 2011 the average JUNE temp looked like this:
US Contiguous Temperature 1896-2011
The actual average JUNE temp in 2011 and 2010 were virtually identical to JUNE temps in 1897 and 1896 ….
Yeah but you cherry picked and left out 2012 … nope – the record does not include June 2012 yet …. but May 2012 WAS warmer than most … however it was exactly the SAME temp as May 1934 – which was also a single year outlier … if you look at May 2011, the temp was nearly identical to May 1895 – and the same as many/majority of May temp readings since 1896
So … the AGW proponents can post their slick graphs about the vast number of new temp records all they want. They are meaningless. It was JUST AS HOT in May 1934 as May 2012.
Like MOST of the extreme claims these days – they are a result of reporting bias – we are simply better at collecting data and reporting it – it is clear from NOAA’s contiguous US record that the extreme numbers of records have had little overall effect on the US average tempos, and the 2012 warm temp is nothing new – we saw the same May temps in 1934 and a few others.
Wow… The level of stupidity of these greenies is staggering at times. Tony Hansen, I am laughing. That was a good one. I sent the editor of National Geographic my cancellation letter years ago and referenced the supposed sea levels of the East Coast in it. I was not particularly tactful. Someone needs to publish those comparison photos of NYC again and show how it is not rising at all.
“Morph says:
June 26, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Was beer involved by any chance, seems likely to me.”
You can almost smell Old Milwaukee wafting off the “ass” email.
Regularly I receive mail from Avaaz, sometimes about reasonable actions but also about the climate. In the mail of last week they seem to assume that I know who Big Oil is. The rest is also incomprehensible but that may be my fault.
“Dear friends,
Over a million people have called on world leaders to end fossil fuel subsidies at the Rio Earth Summit, — a no-brainer policy that could take one trillion tax dollars from Big Oil and reinvest it in green energy. But they have failed to deliver. — even with the backing of the EU, the US and most G20 countries! The talks end in 48 hours. Now is our chance to save them and the planet’s future. “
Rob Potter asks
Since the UK is so variable (for a relatively small island) I am sure we can find somewhere where May and June rainfall is greater than April – anyone got the time to look and save the Met Office blushes?
UK Met Office forecast issued March 23, 2012
The forecast for average UK rainfall slightly favours drier-than-average conditions for April-May-June as a whole, and also slightly favours April being the driest of the 3 months
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/p/i/A3-layout-precip-AMJ.pdf
Wettest April to June periods on record for England and Wales since the year 1766 ( in mm)
2012 347.4 (up to June 23)
1782 336.7
1830 324.4
1797 313.1
Wettest Junes on record for England and Wales since the year 1766 (in mm)
1860 157.1
1768 148.7
2007 144.9
1848 141.5
2012 141.0 (up to June 23)
As far as global warming is concerned, 10 years ago it was possible to grow a crop of tomatoes in a garden in southern England, provided they were grown against a south facing wall. It has been impossible to get them to ripen for the past 5 years, not enough sunshine!
But any way, the environment will catch up with you people, as every day brings more ‘extreme’ weather events, records for rainfall broken repeatedly [the north of England and Scotland just had a month’s rain in 24 hours, in June, one of many records broken]
The last time England had such heavy rain in June was 1767, which suggests low temperatures not high.
“higher quality trolls?” I don’t believe that triolls come in “high quality” Trolls are all “low quality” which allows them to lurk under bridges.
It is very encouraging that the trolls and ACGWarmists are now resorting to extremely low level attacks against irrefutable logic.
a jones
Spike Milligan may have lived most of his life in England but he was Irish not English.
He was born in India (his father was in the British Army and was posted there) and was of Irish antecedents. Despite this and the fact that Spike himself served in the British Army (in WWII) a legal change in the 60s meant that he had to fill out forms and pay a fee to get a British passport. He refused to do this and was, essentially, rendered stateless. Because of his Irish ancestry he was able to obtain Irish citizenship, which he did.
BTW, I am not grinding any sort of political/nationalistic axe, I am English, I just like things to be accurate. Maybe because I read a science degree!
Jim
Tony Mach says:
June 26, 2012 at 11:33 am
“more ‘extreme’ weather events, records for rainfall broken repeatedly [the north of England and Scotland just had a month’s rain in 24 hours, in June, one of many records broken]”
Wasn’t the predication for the UK that it would get warmer and dryer?
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If they’d been right it would have been “extremely” warmer and dryer.
Tony Mach says:
>>“more ‘extreme’ weather events, records for rainfall broken repeatedly [the north of England and Scotland just had a month’s rain in 24 hours, in June, one of many records broken]”
>Wasn’t the predication for the UK that it would get warmer and dryer?
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Oh yeah, the inconvenience of facts…. The UK Met gets it exactly wrong (again) on a large scale.
It is so easy to point out the breathtaking ignorance and desperation of the submission and the submitter. It appears to me that the writer thinks the ‘creative’ aspect will be so shocking that Anthony will get upset and have to examine his soul for avenues of deliverance. What a maroon.
I know that sites like RC do their best to advance the idea that anyone who dares host a blog that allows actual skeptical discussion to be held have to be in the pay of some ‘big player’ because it is their only model – they themselves being in the pay of Big Green.
What really sticks in the craw of people like Gavin and Hansen is that a bunch of people off the street, so to speak, can overturn their scribblings with such ease. I mean, no one except M&M had to spend much time using query tools to find unlinked files on the servers like, Censored data.
Something to keep an eye on (Monckton wrote about it years ago but you should get ready for a version of the distraction in AR5) is the tropical mid-tropospheric heat signature of CO2’s back-radiation. It has to be there, right? So…how are those radiosonde readings looking? Are we finally going to see the smoking gun of CO2 in the new AR5? Will we see a rebuttal of Monckton’s charts in which he shows zero additional heating at the requisite altitude? After all, the models all suppose the heat is there – it is the very basis of AGW, the Root of that toxic green shoot.
The major warmist response (not a Paper with Proofs) was a comment that ‘the heating will appear in the Arctic, not the equator’ which is a) BS, b) not what the Models model and c) blithely pretends it addresses the issue of the defective claims for the magnitude of CO2-warming. The idea was parrotted all over the blogosphere as the standard response to anyone pointing out the required heat signature does not exist – that, after years of saying it is there. It was even shown on Wikipedia for heaven’s sake!
But the IPCC cannot get away with that simplicity – it has to show the basic science. How will AR5 deal with what has heretofore been shouted, modelled, assumed but lacking proof? It is about time the infidel Monckton’s rebuttal was properly tasked with a resounding demonstration of the AG signature, no? Come on IPCC, show us the temperatures and humidity v.s. altitude – a nice clear chart please.
People have been sending up balloons like crazy lately measuring temps and humidity and from all reports, the warming is not there, the high moisture is disappearing (also contrary to the models) and the alarmist claims are once again looking more than foolish. We had a recent discussion about the missing moisture so I think, m’Lud, it is time we revisit the missing back-radiation temperature signature.
Even Jerk-Wad the Submitter above will eat them for breakfast, ‘alternatively-abled’ and ‘special’ as he is.
“I will have a nice long drive up to DC and have a very short and unpleasant conversation with your ass if you don”t stop harrassing scientists.”
I imagine the conversation would go something like this:
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sTDQ21D-sg ]
Yes, it probably would be “unpleasant.”
I am not sure where to post this, I will do it here. I saw amount of sea level rising on the east coast based on a USGS? report. My big concern is that it is not rising the same at different locations along the coast. If it does not raise the same amount along the east coast will the ocean dump over 🙂
Have you ever noticed how often the UN agencies or political radicals will use pictures of a series of different size gears working together (that’s to illustrate systems thinking which they love even when it is not apt) or jigsaw puzzles with distinct pieces and several missing?
They thought only they could communicate globally. They thought if they made the environment the focus no one would appreciate it still functions like renamed socialism. They thought if they talked about national academic standards no one would notice the actual implementation was about adopting the tenets of UNESCO’s Education for Sustainable Development. They thought if they made Rio+20 the focus no one would notice the real action was at the Planet under Pressure Conference in March. They thought if they wrote the statutes and regulations to obtain what they wanted all the lawyers would simply stick to opining on whether something was legal or not. Not write about the actual consequences of what had now been officially authorized.
The schemers love to talk interdisciplinary and transdiciplinary because they do not want anyone knowing enough with an ability to prove it and describe it. They hate it when those of us with real expertise in one area gain it in another and then describe the problemmatic overlap.
And they really hate it that we reach out to other experts to augment our knowledge through the spontaneous internet. No wonder the UN wants so badly to control the internet. It really is proving to be their undoing.
And they are very resentful. They are so close. And we are just a bunch of little people who probably never eat at the finest restaurants. We are not behaving yet like the docile serfs and subjects they intend for us to be.
And their source of funds. Always that.
I love the “climate panic de jour” aspect. Presumably he is referring to the same thing as Ebert:
Can these numbskulls really not realize that if sea level is rising faster in one place it is because of land subsidence and NOT due to climate change? I know that global warming alarmism is an IQ test but this is ridiculous.
“[the north of England and Scotland just had a month’s rain in 24 hours, in June, one of many records broken]”
Isn’t england according to reports in the driest month in the last 30 years or something… and under full government control drought restrictions?