Many thanks for the invitation and for giving me the opportunity to address this distinguished audience. I am not for the first time in Chicago. It is also not for the first time that I am attending a conference organized by the Heartland Institute. But it is for the first time I am with Heartland here in Chicago.
Some of you know that I came to Chicago for the NATO summit. Yesterday and today I was supposed to speak about what to do in Afghanistan, how to keep NATO going in an era of overall indebtedness and budgetary cuts, and about NATO-Russia relations. I am glad to tell you that we did not discuss the global warming. It seems that NATO does not consider global warming to be a security threat. But my main preoccupation in the last days was NATO and I am afraid I am not sufficiently prepared to make a serious contribution to your conference. Let me make at least a few remarks I consider relevant now.
The word “now” is important. On Friday evening I attended a music festival in Prague and during the break I mentioned to a group of people that I go to Chicago, among other things to speak at this conference. Their reaction was: “Global warming? Isn’t it already over? Does anybody care about it?”. That is how they see it. Maybe, it is a European perspective.
Let me, therefore, start by thanking you for keeping the global warming issue alive. This is an important achievement in a moment when it has already become half-forgotten. It has not happened accidentally, it was and is planned. It is a part of a carefully prepared tactic of global warming alarmists how to – once and for all – win their case. In the past two decades, they tried to do the opposite. They wanted to be as loud as possible to arouse our fears, now – when the whole issue becomes more and more suspicious – it is in their interest to stop any public discussion. This is the reason why they try to pretend that “the science is settled”, that the debate is over. We should not let them do it.
Some of you may have a different experience. You may feel to be permanently under a very aggressive attack, but we have to admit that something has changed. Last time I was asked to speak about global warming was in July2011 in Australia. Of course, one possible explanation is that the audiences are no longer interested in my views on this topic (which is something I am ready to accept); the other explanation is that this experience of mine is not unique. The topics have undoubtedly changed. I am more often asked to speak about the Eurozone sovereign debt crisis than our global warming. It may also be the symptom of the victory of global warming fundamentalists who try to make the global warming debate forgotten. That gives this conference a special importance.
The undeniable fact is that almost from one day to the next the global warming debate ceased to be fashionable. It disappeared from the headlines. It may weaken the position of the global warming fundamentalists but it makes it more difficult for us, the “deniers” or “skeptics”, as they call us, to motivate people to think about this issue and to openly and politically express their views about the irrational, human freedom curtailing, human prosperity undermining measures and policies introduced by the political establishments in most of the countries of the world in the last two decades, not to speak about the measures prepared for the future. We have to keep repeating that our planet is determined not only by anthropogenic influences but dominantly by long term exogenous and endogenous natural processes and that most of them are beyond any human control.
The alarmism has subsided, they want to make it “low profile”. Declarations such as the one in Dr. Pachauri´s manifesto from 1989 that “global warming is the greatest crisis ever faced collectively by humankind” are no longer popular. The former radical alarmists, even the scientists connected with the IPCC, changed their tactic. More and more often we hear carefully worded statements that “some environmentalists, supported by the media, exaggerated the conclusions that had been carefully formulated by scientists”. We know that they were not “carefully formulated”. These “conclusions” were very easy to reformulate.
Again, I see this development as a mixed blessing. The earlier apocalyptic warnings succeeded in creating the overall belief in the undeniable existence of a dangerous, man-made global warming. This belief has become deeply rooted in the heads (and hearts) of people all over the world. I agree with Professor Plimer when he sees the main danger in the fact that the children have already been indoctrinated. For that reason we have to keep the global warming debate alive.
How to make a change? I dare say that science per se will not make it regardless of its achievements. Serious scientific research continues bringing new and new pieces of knowledge almost on a daily basis but it has not brought and will not bring any decisive breakthrough in a public debate on this topic in any direction. That is not the role of science or of one scientific discipline. Climate is a complex system which means that – in spite of the dreams of believers in general systems theory – any scientific discovery concerning this topic will always be only a partial one. The course of the world-wide global warming debate more or less confirms this elementary methodological argument.
Can a decisive change come as a result of new empirical data? I doubt it as well. It is evident that the current temperature data confirm neither the GWD alarmist and apocalyptic views, nor their quasi-scientific hypotheses about the exclusivity of relationship between CO2 and temperature. The world has not warmed up very much since the end of the last century but a period of twelve years is too short to shatter the whole carefully built edifice of the GWD. We shouldn´t forget that we have been arguing in the past that a century in climatology is too short to prove the global warming as a long term trend. That is why, to my great regret, we have to – symmetrically – accept that a decade is not sufficient to do the opposite.
There is no doubt that most of the true-believers in the GWD remain undisturbed in their views. Some individuals leave the bandwagon (the most recent well-known case is James Lovelock) but those people who have vested interests (and there are many of them now) together with the men and women who innocently and naively sympathize with any idea which is against freedom, capitalism and markets are still “marching on”.
Discussing technicalities is not sufficient, because the supporters of the GWD are not interested in them. We are not dealing with people who are authentically interested in science and in incremental changes in temperature and their causes. For them, the temperature data are just an instrument in their plans to change the world, to suppress human freedom, to bring people back to underdevelopment. Their ideas are the ideas of ideologues, not of scientists or climatologists. Data and sophisticated theories will never change their views.
We have to accept that they have succeeded in establishing the religion of environmentalism as the official religion of Western society, as the religion which asks for a radical transformation of the whole Western civilization. We – at least some of us – have to play with them in the arena chosen by them.
There are probably more and more people around us now who do not buy the alarmism of the GWD but we have to accept that they are not sufficiently motivated to do anything against it. And they don’t know how. Politicians and political activists, bureaucrats in the national and international organizations, and representatives of the subsidized businesses are organized and due to it are able to push this doctrine further ahead because to do so is in their narrowly defined interests. Ordinary people are not organized and do not have politically formulated interests. They are also not helped by the existing political parties because these parties are not raising this issue either. They are already – almost all of them – more or less captured by the Greens.
To sum up my today’s simple message: empirical data are important; scientific discoveries are important; the disclosure of malpractices in the IPCC and other “bastions” of the GWD are important; but we have to take part in the undergoing ideological battle. The subtitle of my five years old book was “What is Endangered: Climate or Freedom?” There is no doubt that it is all about freedom. We should keep that in mind.
Václav Klaus, the Heartland Institute’s Seventh International Conference on Climate Change, Chicago, Hotel Chicago Hilton, May 21, 2012
From his website at http://www.klaus.cz/clanky/3104
h/t to reader Johanna
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Good post, but too bleak. Your conclusion is in serious error. The UNDP has 3 “bands” of projection. Only the Low band is ever close to accurate (still usually too high). It now says a peak <8bn by ~2045. In fact, it might come as early as 10 yrs earlier, partly due to a demographic surprise: birth rates (replacement rates) are 2.0 or below for most of the world, and falling. http://www.fpri.org/ww/0505.200407.eberstadt.demography.html
Klaus also lays it on the line for the EU’s political, cultural, social and economic prospects:
http://www.klaus.cz/clanky/3091
Excerpts:
The EU is a comprehensive failure, and the Greens are trying to seal the deal.
A thinking statesman, a rare thing:
Discussing technicalities is not sufficient, because the supporters of the GWD are not interested in them. We are not dealing with people who are authentically interested in science and in incremental changes in temperature and their causes. For them, the temperature data are just an instrument in their plans to change the world, to suppress human freedom, to bring people back to underdevelopment. Their ideas are the ideas of ideologues, not of scientists or climatologists. Data and sophisticated theories will never change their views.
W. Eschenbach, take note.
That right there makes the trip to Chicago worth it.
climatereflections says:
May 23, 2012 at 5:18 pm
“I agree with Professor Plimer when he sees the main danger in the fact that the children have already been indoctrinated. For that reason we have to keep the global warming debate alive.”
Had an over-dinner conversation just two nights ago with my 4th grader. He was concerned about CO2 and its detrimental effect on the environment. I gently steered him toward some facts. He countered with, “But my teacher said . . .”
I’m sure he’ll eventually realize CO2 isn’t going to cause problems for the planet and stop worrying about it. However, it won’t be because of his teacher, but rather in spite of her. And by the way, I know his teacher and think she is doing a great job generally (math, reading, history, most of science, etc.). But as the official curriculum has the anti-CO2 slant and she’s stretched thin and probably hasn’t had time or inclination to delve into the issues herself, what is she going to do? Well, obviously she’ll follow the curriculum. Can’t get into trouble for doing that after all . . .
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Unless you correct the teacher she will keep teaching this nonsense, why not try getting her to think? But also, those teachers who do know it is nonsense are overwhelmed by the antagonism received if they object, from discussions I’ve read between them, and without outside support are unable to make a clear stand against this indoctrination.
If, they who are controlling this spread of disinformation corrupting science basics, get their way, it will be a criminal offence to teach anything contradicting this – in Germany and the Soviet Union the parents had to be very careful, young children are apt to blurt out, ‘but my parents said’…
Parents against fake fisics.. they are teaching the children impossible fisics, of a totally imaginary world where visible light and not the invisible heat from the Sun warms the Earth, where there is no water cycle and where the atmosphere is not the heavy fluid ocean of gas above us, but the empty space of the imaginary ideal gas in a container in a lab..
If you know of any parents who understand any of these things…
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/05/22/nasa-astronauts-announce-second-letter-to-nasa-at-heartland-conference/#comment-992048
It may have disappeared from view but the CAGW notion (i.e. cutting CO2 emissions) remains an almost exclusively EU project, likely to remain so and will probably contribute to its eventual collapse.
Germany is already phasing out nuclear energy and Hollande intends a phaseout in France which exports power to Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Britain and Germany.
It’s just a matter of how bad things get before their governments face reality.
Lucy Skywalker says:
May 23, 2012 at 1:18 pm
… an important scientific challenge to the Second Law of Thermodynamics …
Right now I want to get out a report on the Second Law which, I now firmly believe, needs amending, in order to correct a 150-year-old misapprehension which unfortunately put Climate Science on the wrong footing right from the very start.
I hope you realize how nuts that looks.
The “global warming issue” is an important one and must remain “alive” if we humans are to seriously, historically, and scientifically understand the changes all organisms have faced living on this Earth, during both warming and cooling. I agree with Dr. Havel about freedom (liberty) and respect his phenomenally successful career. However, with regard to “global warming”, the science is primary. WUWT and blogs committed to truth (no tampering with raw data or the means to gather it), transparency (show your data and your methods), and the scientific method (others can find the same result, too) have done more to undermine the CAGW schick than anything else (along with the financial disasters of solar and wind “power”).
The real problem is the fantasy of authoritarian control of CO2, the stuff of life, which, if achieved gives the power of life and death over billions. The only test I know to see if the politics of this authoritariansm is declining is to follow the money. Track those billions (trillions) AND when they are severely limited for “government-bureaucratic” use (by parasites) and nagtural-resource energy development is returned to “the market” with reasonable pollution regulations (the stuff of life transformed for living well today), then and only then can we say change is afoot. (Note: the leaf vein study was funded by the government – NSF.) In the U.S., 2010 was an amazing beginning; I expect 2012 to be transformational (but step-by-step).
Lucy Skywalker, I salute your efforts. I have not been happy when I have seen those from major California universities continue to shoot down (consistently, persistently, with derision) anything that challenges their control of the debate, whether in math or solar physics. Those universities have been and remain among the largest contritutors to the Obama (marxist-authoritarian)campaigns. Without federal funding in multiple areas (including massive “science” funding and tax-payer guarantee for student debt), they would cease to exist in their present forms. Let the professors/researchers struggle — like bloggers — to fund their own research, investigative efforts.
Mr Klaus is a very astute man and it should give us all great strength that he has understood which side of this argument has truth on its side.
This address to the Heartland conference is absolutely perfect– unassailable in its logic, blunt, and very brief. This is should be the goal of every public speaker.
“We have to accept that they have succeeded in establishing the religion of environmentalism as the official religion of Western society, as the religion which asks for a radical transformation of the whole Western civilization. We – at least some of us – have to play with them in the arena chosen by them.” Definitely true. Obama goes with the rebranding to clean energy and a potential GOP VP nominee, Chris Christie, has been on record as a believer in CAGW and the need to do “something” about it.
Environmental religion explains a lot about what goes on in schools, the press, government – everyhwere publicly, – and how people can be non-alarmist and still be dominated by enviro/ climate policy. Exposing it as religion is not enough if we still feel it is the right thing to do. I prefer the arguments that it is not the right thing to do using examples such as allowing a narrowly focused green worried only about “harm to the environment” to manage an energy company let alone an energy policy.
There is hope that environmental religion can be discredited. The mother of the problem, the one of “informed authority” – consensus scientist / activists (you can’t be a scientist if you’re an activist) – exercising the levers of power is ongoing since the days of flat earth to witch burings to blocking DDT thereby killing more people than Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot put together, to CAGW requires constant vigilance. The answer is humble science to which the Royal Society and the National Academy of Sciences are dedicated against.
Ahh, dear Vaclav, a true statesman and a true democrat.
He spoke to the EU parliament, and called for a viable opposition within the parliament, because democracy cannot succeed without an opposition voice (the EU parliament has no opposition party). He reminded the EU, that he had lived under a ‘parliament’ with no opposition, it was called Russian Communism, and it was repressive and undemocratic.
In a demonstration of the true fascist nature of the current EU, the parliamentarians booed him at the absurd suggestion that they should be democrats, and walked out.
The EU shares many characteristics with the Global Warming movement.
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Truthseeker and Pyromancer
Thanks for the thumbs-up.
Smoking Frog says: May 24, 2012 at 3:49 am
Lucy Skywalker says: May 23, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I hope you realize how nuts that looks.
Thanks. I am indeed nuts about the whole project. The experimental work that’s been achieved excites me, and it’s to the shame and eventual loss of universities that they won’t even look. Heck, careful, thorough, engineering-standard, openminded observation, plus developing maths and theory that fits the results, is what Science is supposed to be about. Isn’t it? Look at Faraday and Maxwell. Faraday did the experiments, Maxwell fitted the equations. What makes you think I am talking about anything so very different? And don’t you think I have studied the formulations of the Second Law, and the reception which people get when they talk about the Second Law? Try this.
Smoking Frog: I should have added, this.
I’m just surfing to keep uptodate, while preparing a proper new piece on Graeff’s experiments and the replication work I hope to carry out. I need time to get it right.
But yes, I am nuts, and happily so. I’ve been passionate about standing up for integrity in a cadet branch of Science that has gone seriously wonky. I never dreamed I would find myself at the cutting edge of new science or that it would turn me on and excite me like this.
Lucy – isn’t the key word in the 2nd Law “spontaneously” – i.e. without work being done? Gravity, afaik is not considered not work in the 2nd Law, i.e. work is being done – as for example, in the atmosphere – temperatures decrease with height regardless that there is the cycle of heat rising/cold descending in the expansion and contraction of gases within that; gravity pulls mass, which is what gives different weights of gases relative to each other, and pressure of contraction means greater kinetic energy, so hotter at bottom than at top.
I think this is the problem “The observation is that heat flows under the influence of gravity from a cold reservoir to one with a higher temperature.”
Is not breaking the second law because it isn’t spontaneous, it is gravity induced. The second law is that heat always flows spontaneously from hotter to colder. They’ve just proved the law, yet again..
And p.s., it’s not “heat flowing”, it’s heat being created by pressure of gravity. I think, this is all rather well known, isn’t this saying the same thing?: – http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/gravity-heating-systems-d_189.html
Lucy Skywalker: OK, I must admit it’s interesting.
Myrrh says:
May 25, 2012 at 3:00 am
And p.s., it’s not “heat flowing”, it’s heat being created by pressure of gravity. I think, this is all rather well known, isn’t this saying the same thing?: – http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/gravity-heating-systems-d_189.html
No. A gravity-fed heating system merely relies on gravity to return cooled water to a heater that is at the bottom of the system. It does not use gravity to heat the water.
Myrrh: If a gravity-fed heating system used gravity to heat the water, this would be well known to people, since it would reduce oil and gas consumption.
Always ask yourself: If proposition P is true, what would the world look like?
Smoking Frog – have to admit I didn’t read it properly – was in a bit of a rush, so thanks. However, my point re the 2nd Law is that it is a statement of heat always flowing from hotter to colder spontaneously, without work being done, gravity is work being done; in other words the law does not have to be re-written.
They, the writers of the piece Lucy linked to, have not understood this, otherwise they would not have made the statement I quoted, and more, are not aware that they are looking through a created paradigm of the meme ‘heat also flows from colder to hotter’, so they’re not able to dissect correctly what they’re seeing. What I had in mind as an example, was this:
http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/atlas/themes.aspx?id=weather&sub=weather_basics_introduction&lang=En
“In low-pressure areas, warm air rises and cools, forming clouds, which bring rain, fog, snow, hail, and thunderstorms. In high-pressure areas, cold air descends and, as it falls, it is compressed and heats up, generally bringing clear, warm, and settled weather.”
Gravity heating. There isn’t heat flowing from colder to hotter, but cold air being heated up by compression, which is work, which is not what the 2nd Law is saying.
Those who instigated the fake fisics tweaking to promote man made global warming claims about carbon dioxide have so screwed education by this that people now believe all kinds of impossible things, that gases in the atmosphere can’t separate out, that light not heat from the Sun heats the land and oceans, that our atmosphere is empty space, and so on. There are two main AGW memes about the 2nd Law. One is the line that Spencer takes, that heat can flow from colder to hotter and that this will in turn heat the hotter more, and the other that heat exchange is a net giving hotter to colder by including heat travelling from colder to hotter; the first I’d like incorporated into my heating system (as I would carbon dioxide..), and the second having no mechanism to achieve this ‘net’ from hotter to colder will, as someone told me in a discussion, mean I can leave a lump of raw meat in my igloo and go off hunting for a few hours, to return to a cooked dinner.
The reason this is confusing is because the tweaks are from the range of science disciplines, and someone familiar with one and able to see one tweak in his field, will more often than not fail to question the other ‘basics’, instead thinking that ‘common knowledge’ about them is because of well established empirical fisics when it is actually more tweaks made ‘common knowledge’ by such tweaks being introduced into the education system.
For example, the tweaked physics which gives the AGWScience Fiction world of an atmosphere as empty space is achieved by substituting the properties of ideal gas for real gas, so they have no convection, no weight, volume or attraction, gravity in a heavy fluid gas medium, only radiation in empty space – how many of those now educated to think the Air around them is empty space with molecules of the imaginary ideal gas zipping around at great speeds bouncing off each other will ever be confronted with how sound works in the real world? How many of those will see the disjunct? They can’t even see the Water Cycle is missing from their comic cartoon energy budget.
Lucy Skywalker: OK, I must admit it’s interesting.
What’s interesting about it?