Josh of Cartoons by Josh wrote to me via email today of his latest cartoon about Mike Mann’s book. He writes:
With Mike Mann’s book still getting good coverage in various corners of the media I felt another cartoon was needed. Especially as another Mike, Mike Daisey, gave us such a brilliant quote: “I stand by it as a theatrical work” speaking of his made up story about the conditions at a Chinese factory which makes Apple products ( you can read the whole retraction here).
Mike Mann is not totally happy with all the PR, though, as we know from his Twitter reaction to reviews by Anne Jolis and Miranda Devine. He is probably going to be really teed off when he see this poll on the Daily Kos.
The article’s title is ‘Michael Mann is a Modern Hero and we need to acknowledge that!’. To date around 97% of readers do not agree and think he is either distorting evidence or should be fired from the University. That number sounds like a consensus to me.
And ‘Game of Thrones’? It’s an HBO blockbuster of a series based on George R R Martin’s books ‘A Song of Fire and Ice’. If you haven’t seen the series you might not have the foggiest clue what I am referring to… but, never mind, even the title ‘A Song of Fire and Ice’ couldn’t be more apt. And guess what the show’s slogan is: “Winter is coming”.
The book is currently ranked #3,695 on Amazon.com
kakatoa says:
March 22, 2012 at 7:11 am
Hockey Stick work by Dr. Mann- Please rate it as to the method used to generate the graph
1) Traditional use of the Scientific Method
2) Post Normal Science Scientific Method
3) Theatrical Work using some tools from 1 and 2)
4) None of the Above
5) Your alternative as to the method: “scientific body checking” (ad hominems as opposed to fact checking); “high sticking” (spliced graph techniques to get temperature uptick post 1960); “blocking” (blocking scientific papers that don’t support “the cause”); “contesting the referee” (getting unbiased editors removed from their positions).
CW – code monkey with a wrench says:
March 22, 2012 at 6:58 am
“Hugh Pepper says:
March 22, 2012 at 3:56 am
Propaganda, as ruthlessly practiced By Fox News and others, has succeeded in demonizing Dr. Mann.”
These are the words of either a sarcastic wise ass troll, or a propagandist who mistakenly assumes that his readers are as easily hood-winked as he is. If it’s the former, well done sir. If the latter, the accidental irony on display is stunning.
Well said Code Monkey. By the way, Hugh Pepper’s statement would be much closer to the truth if he wrote:
Propaganda, as ruthlessly practiced By Dr. Mann and others, such as Hugh Pepper, has attempted to demonize Fox News”
The formerly-great Hugh Pepper, reduced to pasting in a canned pro-Mann propaganda piece written from a script. I would say “Oh how the mighty have fallen” except he never was all that mighty to begin with.
Oh well, maybe he can incorporate a randomizing function to spit these out, make them possibly interesting. Although given there’s a bit of a lack of flow to this one… Maybe he already has. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen auto-generated spam that read better, or at least no worse.
What I thought was one of the most interesting aspects of the ClimateGate 1 and 2 emails was that many of them were obviously never intended to be seen or read by Michael Mann. Communicating amongst themselves they did seem to hold him in very low regard. Probably what upset Mann the most was finding out what his colleagues really thought of him.
Fake but accurate.
A throne of hockey sticks!
excellent
dp says:
March 22, 2012 at 7:41 am
Harold Ambler has it correct. Mann says “we cannot play by their rules”. Nothing evil in that. Stick to what is actually evil in his work – there’s no shortage of it.
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Our “Rules” are the scientific method and publication of data and methods in a peer reviewed journal so the science can validated.
We have ample evidence that Mann and friends do not play by those rules. Instead they used “Pal” review, lawyers, hides their data, lose the data, ignore FOIA, and resorts to threats including getting a journal editor removed.
As I have said before “Science” richly deserves the black eye it is getting. It needs to be dragged from the Ivory Tower and through the mud and that is what is starting to happen.
Here are some examples:
New York Times: “A well-known psychologist in the Netherlands whose work has been published widely in professional journals falsified data and made up entire experiments, an investigating committee has found.” http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/health/research/noted-dutch-psychologist-stapel-accused-of-research-fraud.html
“In a July 26 letter to Cetero, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration describes the falsification as “extensive,” calling into question all bioanalytical data collected by Cetero’s Houston bioanalytical laboratory from April 1, 2005 to June 15, 2010. The FDA said Cetero manipulated test samples so the tests would yield desired results.” http://www.medcitynews.com/2011/07/fda-says-cro-cetero-faked-trial-data-pharmas-may-need-to-redo-tests/
“A former scientist at the State University of New York Upstate Medical University was found to have falsified reports in federally funded projects, including two published studies.” http://www.dailyorange.com/news/former-suny-upstate-medical-university-scientist-falsified-reports-in-published-works-1.2803396#.T2tyuuCwcxI
The poll might be more clever than we think …
* High vote for “The Mann”? – excellent!
* Excessively high vote against “The Mann”? – confirms what “The Mann” has been saying – these are all the fossil-fuel-funded deniers flocking over and merely reinforces what the article said all along!
Win = Win
Gail has it right. “Their” rules are the rules of the Scientific Method.
So there is plenty “evil” in that.
He’s an embarrassment to Penn State, as well as to the taxpayers of Pennsylvania who are forced to subsidize his distortions and exaggerations.
Of course, he fits right in at Penn State.
As catholicfundametnalism.com points out frequently, we, and he, should be more worried about final judgment, especially in light of Dante’s thesis, that the most painful regions of Hell are reserved for those who participated in “complex frauds”.
Hugh Pepper says:
March 22, 2012 at 3:56 am
Propaganda, as ruthlessly practiced By Fox News and others, has succeeded in demonizing Dr. Mann. His work stands, however, and the conditions he expertly describes, are real. The global temperature is rising and we all need to do something to remedy this problem.Mann, and the legion of practicing climate scientists, have given us the information we need to “fix the problem” and the longer we delay this effort the more expensive and difficult it will be.
Hugh Pepper, that’s so funny. You’re a commedian right, LOL.
Or maybe you’re just completely gullible, you’re priceless.
Hahah. WUWT made my day with this post.
I think Hugh Pepper is just desperate for his own cartoon.
…perhaps something featuring lost marbles?
98% , not 97% think Mann’s a scammer.
“Sir, praise me not;
My work hath yet not warm’d me: fare you well:”
The Tragedy of Coriolanus, Act 1, Scene 5
William Shakespeare
About that poll…
If you go there and just keep on pressing the “Vote” button, the count just keeps racking up. Do you really think those 3000-odd votes for “distorting the evidence” are from 3000-odd different people? Pah!
REPLY: I just double checked all this. Unless you have cookies disabled and a rotating IP address required to defeat the poll security, your statement is demonstrably false – Anthony
John B,
Wrong. I voted once. After I voted, the vote total screen came up, but it didn’t offer the option to vote again.
Besides, you no doubt would have voted for the option saying that “Michael Mann is an outstanding scientist and human being”. That one had only eleven votes when I checked just now.
You are projecting, like when a thief thinks everyone else is a thief, too. No doubt you would have been hitting that vote button a lot more than eleven times. If you could.
The public can smell a rat. Mann is an odious little creature. Everything he says and everything he writes makes him look bad, from his book, to the Climategate emails, to his newspaper columns and public statements. He is a serial name-caller [deniers, denialists, contrarians, Koch Brothers, funded by Big Oil, etc], and his science is crooked. He is vindictive, his co-workers don’t much like him, and now the far-Left Daily Kos poll shows that 97% of voters believe Mann is a self-serving, corrupt climate charlatan who should be fired.
BTW If you want to see the Mann himself
http://warren-wilson.edu/blogs/blog/2012/02/21/climate-wars-author-to-speak-april-3-at-warren-wilson/
Maybe someone can turn up and give him a signed copy of The Hockey Stick Illusion?
Smokey, Anthony,
I just went to the article from your link, selected Results, then hit the Vote button a few times. All my votes counted, I think. Now I can’t cvote, s I’m guessing I got through their security quite by accident. I used Firefox, with no special settings.
John
REPLY: I tried it on a virgin machine never having visited the site before, and was prevented from voting after the first vote was recorded. Almost every poll like this has some sort of basic security like that. I can’t imagine this one would not, otherwise why wouldn’t we see more votes from supporters if it was wide open as some people suggest? – Anthony
keith says:
March 22, 2012 at 6:25 pm
BTW If you want to see the Mann himself
http://warren-wilson.edu/blogs/blog/2012/02/21/climate-wars-author-to-speak-april-3-at-warren-wilson/
Maybe someone can turn up and give him a signed copy of The Hockey Stick Illusion?
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Better yet ask Mann to sign the copy of The Hockey Stick Illusion you might even be able to slide it in without him figuring out what it is he is signing.
Boy would THAT be a collector’s item decades down the road.
At 1007 23 March 2012, the voting stood at
Michael Mann
did not choose to became a symbol — 0% 14 votes
has been attacked in many of the same ways that the President and John Kerry were — 0% 12 votes
Is an outstanding scientist and human being — 0% 11 votes
all of the above — 1% 54 votes
is distorting evidence to prove his point — 71% 3029 votes
should be fired from the university — 26% 1115 votes
Total — 4238 votes
The consensus is that Mann-made Global Warm–uhhhhh–Climate Change a fraud, and it’s worse than he thought.
The debate is over…
Josh, a suggestion for the next cartoon in this series – Mike sitting on his throne with his pants down.
John B is still fabricating his bogus story, as Bill Tuttle shows above in a post subsequent to John B’s claims of multiple voting.
Why is it that the purveyors of the “carbon” scare are all serial liars? They all are, from Mann to Schneider to Gleick, and all the way down to John B. It’s probably because they know that if they told the truth, there would be no scare. But that does not excuse their lying.
“The book is currently ranked #3,695 on Amazon.com”
Proving that the committed basically don’t read anyway.
Buy the book, keep the dust cover. You’ll not regret it.
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