I used to be Snow White

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

There’s a paper out by, inter alios, our good friend Judith Curry. The paper is “Impact of Declining Arctic Sea Ice on Winter Snowfall”, by Jiping Liu, Judith A. Curry, Huijun Wang, Mirong Song, and Radley M. Horton (PDF, hereinafter L2012). Judith has a thread discussing the paper at her excellent blog. Their claim is that reducing Arctic sea ice leads to heavier winter snowfall. Inherently, this seems to make sense. Less ice means more evaporation, and because what goes up must come down, more evaporation means more snow. Case closed … or not …

Unfortunately, the paper doesn’t live up to its promise. Oh, it has lots of pretty pictures. Here’s one of them:

Figure 1. According to L2012, this shows the difference between the outputs of two climate model runs. I would call this is pretty conclusive evidence, perhaps even the long-sought “smoking gun”, that clearly establishes that the two climate model runs were indeed different.

Here’s what their abstract has to say (emphasis mine):

Abstract

While the Arctic region has been warming strongly in recent decades, anomalously large snowfall in recent winters has affected large parts of North America, Europe, and East Asia. Here we demonstrate that the decrease in autumn Arctic sea ice area is linked to changes in the winter Northern Hemisphere atmospheric circulation that have some resemblance to the negative phase of the winter Arctic Oscillation. However, the atmospheric circulation change linked to the reduction of sea ice shows much broader meridional meanders in mid-latitudes and clearly different interannual variability than the classical Arctic Oscillation. This circulation change results in more frequent episodes of blocking patterns that lead to increased cold surges over large parts of northern continents. Moreover, the increase in atmospheric water vapor content in the Arctic region during late autumn and winter driven locally by the reduction of sea ice provides enhanced moisture sources, supporting increased heavy snowfall in Europe during early winter, and the northeastern and mid-west United States during winter. We conclude that the recent decline of Arctic sea ice has played a critical role in recent cold and snowy winters.

So … what’s not to like? Reduced ice causes cold surges, leading to more snowfall. Case closed … or not …

For me, the first clue that something is wrong in a study is often that they don’t start out with a historical look as far back as the records may go. In this case, the satellite ice area as records go back to 1978. But in this study, they only show snow records going back as far as the antediluvian year of 2007/2008 … at that point, the bells started ringing for me. I always start with the longest overview of the question that I can find.

So let me remedy that, and we can see if declining sea ice really does lead to cold, snowy winters. The upper panel of Figure 2 shows the actual ice and snow data (normalized to an average of zero and a standard deviation of one). Below that, the lower panel shows the anomalies in those same normalized datasets once the monthly averages have been removed.

Figure 2. Arctic sea ice area (blue) and Northern Hemisphere snow area (red).  Upper panel shows actual data. Lower panel shows the anomalies of the same data, with the same units (note different scales). The R^2 of the snow and ice anomalies is 0.01, meaninglessly small. The R^2 of the first differences of the anomalies is 0.004, equally insignificant. Neither of these are significantly improved by lags of up to ± 6 months. SNOW DATA ICE DATA

I’m not going to say a whole lot about this graph. It is clear that in general the arctic ice area has been decreasing for twenty years or so. It is equally clear that the northern hemisphere snowfall has not been increasing for the last twenty years. Finally, it is clear that there is no statistical relationship between decreased ice and increased snow.

I will leave it to the reader to decide if, as the authors of L2012 say in the Abstract, ” the recent decline of Arctic sea ice has played a critical role in recent cold and snowy winters.I certainly don’t see it in the historical record. And this is why graphing the full record of both variables is so important. There may be some effect there … but if so, it is a very small effect, it’s invisible at this level.

In a more general sense, I see this as studying “how many snow-storms can dance on the head of an iceberg”. There have been no breakthroughs in climate science in thirty years, and I can see that the people searching for the “smoking gun” establishing a “human fingerprint” are getting mighty frustrated. But that is no reason to give up on the important questions and work on this kind of trivia. If there were a significant effect of decreasing ice causing increasing snow area, it would be visible in Figure 2. So at best, they are studying some tiny, third-order phenomenon. There’s nothing wrong with doing that once a field has no big questions left unanswered.

The thing is, climate science is nothing but unanswered questions, big questions. And until those questions have answers, for them to be wasting their valuable time and their trained scientific curiosity on this kind of small potatoes?

I suppose it’s meaningful in some universe … not mine.

w.

PS—The authors do deserve kudos, however. The paper nowhere contains the words “human influence”, “AGW”, “anthropogenic”, or “CO2”. That alone is shocking enough that it should get a medal of some kind.

PPS—Joe D’Aleo discussed the L2012 paper on WUWT here. Unfortunately, he didn’t show a direct comparison between ice and snow either.

PPPS—The title is from Mae West, who said “I used to be Snow White … but I drifted.”

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Jeff Alberts
March 6, 2012 8:14 am
Replicant
March 6, 2012 8:27 am

Willis, you think that you have debunked the paper with your very simple comparison of ice extend charts and snow extend charts.
The paper says:
1. “Here we demonstrate that the decrease in autumn Arctic sea ice area is linked to changes in the winter Northern Hemisphere atmospheric circulation”
Did your comparison debunk this statement? Of course not.
2. “This circulation change results in more frequent episodes of blocking patterns that
lead to increased cold surges over large parts of northern continents.”
Did your comparison debunk this statement? Of course not.
3. “Moreover, the increase in atmospheric water vapor content in the Arctic region during late autumn and winter driven locally by the reduction of sea ice provides enhanced moisture sources, supporting increased heavy snowfall in Europe during early winter and the northeastern and midwestern United States during winter.”
Did your comparison debunk this statement? Of course not. Pay attention to: “heavy snowfall in Europe during early winter and the northeastern and midwestern United States during winter”.
In addition you indicated that only 2007-2010 data was used and not the full available data set. Wrong again.
I would be interested to learn how do you understand for example the Figure 1B in the full article? Do you understand what it shows?
Personally I do not believe that all this has anything to do with CO2 levels. Dr. Curry did not say that either.

March 6, 2012 8:27 am

Nice post. The snow graphic flat lined. The study is perhaps flat lined as well. Snow fall always varies, the jet stream varies, the high and low pressure systems vary in location, the barometric pressures vary, time of year varies – there are so many variable inputs it will be a very long time before a “model” comes close to reflecting reality. And the reality is I need to go start the tractor and plough that displaced white stuff off my driveway and go hit the mountains as there are a few feet of that fresh displaced white stuff on the ski hills in the region (Canadian Rockies and Selkirks/Monashees).
Love your graphs. They put things nicely into perspective. Maybe they don’t show why, or maybe some people would have preferred them to represent something else. But what they do, is cause people to think and from that we get some interesting responses to cause us to think further. What could be better?
Thank you.

March 6, 2012 8:31 am

Terry Marsh and Catherine L. Harvey report on the empirical data in “The Thames flood series: a lack of trend in flood magnitude and a decline in maximum levels”
http://www.iwaponline.com/nh/043/nh0430203.htm
that “Since routine flow measurement began in 1883, the Thames basin has seen a substantial rise in air temperature and a tendency for both winter rainfall and annual runoff to increase. There is no trend in fluvial flood magnitude however, partly reflecting a decline in snowmelt contributions to major floods”.
In other words winter snowfalls, at least in the Thames basin, are not what they used to be, contradicting the assertion of “increased heavy snowfall in Europe during early winter.”

kwinterkorn
March 6, 2012 8:39 am

If Willis were not scientific, and instead promoting the skeptical agenda, he would have focused on this logical sequelum of the study:
If less sea ice cover in the Arctic leads to greater snow cover at lower NH latitudes, a negative feedback is established. Namely, a lower albedo in a region with weaker sunshine (watery Arctic in winter) is causing a higher albedo in stronger sunshine (non-Arctic, snow-covered NH). Thus this process would have a net cooling effect for the the Earth’s heat budget, and counter man-caused global warming, if there is such a thing.
Instead, Willis is scientific, and letting the facts fall where they may lay, and good for him, and those of us who enjoy his posts.

Billy Liar
March 6, 2012 8:46 am

Brad says:
March 6, 2012 at 6:15 am
It is simply an interesting insight into the mind of true believers, they really do not want the truth, they long to have their deeply held belief confirmed at all costs.
Talking about yourself again, Brad?

Gordon Ford
March 6, 2012 8:50 am

Back in 1963-64 when I studied Geomorphology as part pf my Geology/Geophysics degree at UBC there was a theory that with the continued melt back of the arctic ice pack there would be more evaporation. The higher humidity would result in more snow and the growth of glaciers. This in turn could trigger a new ice age. I’m still waiting for the ice age.

March 6, 2012 9:22 am

Wow willis you really screwed this up.
best read the paper and attend to the details and make a correction.
three words: regional; equivalent water

Jim G
March 6, 2012 9:33 am

Brad says:
March 6, 2012 at 6:24 am
“While you are at it, why don’t you try to refute the actual conclusion of the paper, instead of the strawman you have thrown up. BTW – I assume she has the basic correlations run here, any descent scientist would have, and Dr. Curry is.
The real conclusion:
“supporting increased heavy snowfall in Europe during early winter, and the northeastern and mid-west United States during winter. We conclude that the recent decline of Arctic sea ice has played a critical role in recent cold and snowy winters.””
1. The years of data were cherry picked to support her predetermined conclusion.
2. Looking at all of the data it is clear that there is no relationship.
Simplistic, maybe, but enough said.

John from CA
March 6, 2012 9:42 am

Brad says:
March 6, 2012 at 1:24 am
… If I were Mr. Watts I would pull this simplistic post, almost childish in its analysis.
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There is a much simpler way to look at “Impact of Declining Arctic Sea Ice on Winter Snowfall”. Let’s take a look at Northern Hemisphere snowfall over the extended period Willis proposes and see if there is any trend; http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_seasonal.php?ui_set=nhland&ui_season=1
As Willis points out, the trend is insignificant.
However if one looks at Eurasia vs North America, Eurasia is an insignificant trend but North America is showing a slightly increasing trend with 4 of the last 5 years above the trend. This supports Willis’s point about only including the last 5 years (need to include all available data) and generally shows how insignificant the issue is.
IMO, it would be interesting to reflect specific snowfall in relation to specific areas where sea ice isn’t forming over time for the winter real sea ice to snowfall conclusions.

Peter Dunford
March 6, 2012 10:10 am

AR5 needs peer-reviewed literature to explain why nature isn’t cooperating. This is a keep-the-show-on-the-road paper. It only needs a veneer of science for polishing, and a well known name for credibility.
It doesn’t have to be right.

Alan D McIntire
March 6, 2012 10:18 am

The hypothesis sounds plausible. It agrees with my skeptical argument that feedbacks are negative. In the Arctic free of ice theory, not only are feedbacks negative, but they’re HUGELY negative!
Unfortunately, I think that the hypothesis is countered by facts:
1613: Inuit (Eskimo) found in kayak near Hull, eastern England
1682-1684: Inuit landings on Orkney Islands, northern Scotland
If lower ice in the arctic led to glaciers growing farther south, those eskimos would not have been traveling as far south as Scotland and England during the little ice age.

Latitude
March 6, 2012 10:33 am

Less Arctic ice makes more snow….
…and more Arctic ice makes more snow
Where have we seen that before? warm/cold, wet/dry, drought/flood, rain/snow…………
“The snowiest two year period on record (1978-1979) also had the peak Arctic sea ice of the last century.”

Agnostic
March 6, 2012 10:40 am

Willis:
“Thanks, Agnostic. I doubt greatly that “increased cold surges over large parts of northern continents” would increase the amount but not the area of the snowfall. That makes no sense.”
Actually it was one of the things that Skeptical Science attacked Monckton for, that just because there had been increased snowfall, snow extent had not increased…but i digress…
I am inclined to agree with you Willis, but if you think about it, it actually does not necessarily follow that increased precipitation means an increase, or a significant increase in coverage. And it’s important with regards to snow because it is regarded as contributing to albedo. If the weather patterns bring lots of snow to a particular area – more than usual – but no more to an area that does not get much, then albedo has not increased since even a thin layer of snow can increase albedo. And such a case existed in Europe this year, with not very much snow in the UK (except parts of the North) and much more than usual in East Europe.
Judith actually pointed out that what they were measuring was volume not extent. It is something they clearly thought about and probably worth your while checking. In any case your graph is misleading although your conclusion may well be valid. They are not claiming extent and sea ice correlation, but volume.

John from CA
March 6, 2012 10:44 am

Interactive chart showing the complete satellite Arctic Sea Ice record (30% lower limit) without an imposed average. Cryosphere Today also does a great job of segmenting Arctic Sea Ice into regions and highlights the deviations both positive and negative within each region.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/arctic.sea.ice.interactive.html
I really love this interactive chart; h/t to UofI for the willingness to show the actual data in an insightful way.
If you progressively turn Off each year from the legend at the right of the chart from the most recent to the beginning of the satellite record, you’ll see at the minimum all but a couple of years that haven’t followed the Arctic Sea Ice decline at the Sea Ice minimum.
The problem I have with the satellite record is the realization that it may only represent one half of a “normal” cycle and any conclusions associated with warming are nothing but obvious within the cycle.
The next 30 years will be the tell. We live in interesting times and thanks for the great post Willis!

Len
March 6, 2012 11:04 am

In his comments, Brad says:
“Thanks, you (sic) apology is accepted.”
And
“I find those that can do science do not throw up basic correlations irrelevant to the point at hand – at least after their first or second year in grad school.”
Where does the anger originate?
Examining real data, graphing, correlation, pondering. Are doing these things not doing science?
Willis puts his writiings up for review, isn’t peer review part of science?
There is a famous story among sediment transport and hydraulic engineers that H. A. Einstein (son of Albert A. Einstein) would take his new graduate students to his hydraulics laboratory and ask them to take data and learn from them for a few months before they started their formal studies.

Matt G
March 6, 2012 11:17 am

Northern hemisphere winter snow extent has increased over recent years, but only possible link that relates to rest of data was the extended solar minimum. Arctic sea ice has been declining for decades so if this was the cause, then there would be a general increase in snow extent throughout the data. The probem with this judgement is also the true Arctic ice 80N+ hardly changes and remains around zero most of peak summer. The arctic decline has been regions concerning less than 80N, so other than a little local lake affect snow this should hardly affect NH weather.