Grunt work

UPDATE: 1/15/2012 11:30AM PST The probe is down, but see how the BBC fouled up the reporting of it here -Anthony

Look up in the air, it’s a bird, its a plane, no it’s Phobos-Grunt! Video follows.

An artist's impression (M. Carroll) of Phobos-Grunt re-entry into Earth's atmosphere - Image: gawker.com

From Sky News: An out of control Russian spacecraft could crash land on southern England sometime this weekend, scientists have warned.

The minibus-sized Phobos Grunt is loaded with 11 tonnes of fuel that was supposed to take it to Mars and one of its moons.

But the on-board computer failed shortly after take-off last November and the spacecraft’s orbit of the Earth has been getting lower ever since.

Chief engineer at the UK Space Agency Professor Richard Crowther said it is expected to explode as it enters the atmosphere, scattering debris along a 200km track – anywhere between the M4 corridor and the Falkland Islands.

But he told Sky News that fragments are most likely to fall into the sea: “If you look at the Earth from space, most of it is covered by water.

“The UK is very small by comparison. The probability of it falling in such a small area is very, very low.

“It doesn’t keep me awake at night.”

The Russian space agency Roscosmos estimates that between 20 and 30 fragments, weighing 200kg in total, will make it back to the Earth’s surface.

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It doesn’t look good:

Image from heavens-above.com

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Mick J
January 14, 2012 1:55 pm

I have seen it noted elsewhere that Mars have a factory in Slough, located along the M4 corridor. So it could land on Mars after all. 🙂
Talking of Slough, John Betjeman wrote a poem about the place. He may get his wish. 🙂
There is a follow up poem extolling it virtues.
“Come, friendly bombs, and fall on Slough!
It isn’t fit for humans now,
There isn’t grass to graze a cow.
Swarm over, Death!”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slough_(poem)

DirkH
January 14, 2012 1:58 pm

Now imagine the fun we’ll all have when they start putting PV in LEO.

D. Patterson
January 14, 2012 2:19 pm

If a Space island Geode station had already been put into place as planned, the whole spacecraft could have been captured and repaired before a deestructive reentry into the atmosphere.

Mike Borgelt
January 14, 2012 2:27 pm

Shows how we need launch on demand spacecraft with astronauts. Rendevous with errant spacecraft, lassoo or catch in net, organise controlled de-orbit in unpopulated area. We could call it the Space Patrol. Or maybe the US Coastguard would like another job?

cui bono
January 14, 2012 2:28 pm

H
There’s bound to be money in it Bill. Let’s give it some thought (assuming I survive the weekend here in the ‘M4 Corridor’!). Incoming! Hard hats! Duck and cover!

January 14, 2012 3:21 pm

So now we’re gonna see if gravity can heat things up. 🙂

Editor
January 14, 2012 3:33 pm

Quote without comment. Well, except for this line and maybe subsequent comments.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/9012242/QandA-Phobos-Grunt-crashes-to-earth.html

The five-tonne Nasa UARS satellite hit earth in September, and was recorded by an amateur astrologer tumbling over France.

MattN
January 14, 2012 3:58 pm

“anywhere between the M4 corridor and the Falkland Islands.”
This makes no sense. The Falkland Islands are off the coast of Argentina…

Editor
January 14, 2012 5:01 pm

MattN says:
January 14, 2012 at 3:58 pm

“anywhere between the M4 corridor and the Falkland Islands.”
This makes no sense. The Falkland Islands are off the coast of Argentina…

A reentry estimate that’s off by +/- 25 minutes will do that.
These are tough to predict, people do well to hit the orbit number a day in advance.
Hmm, the Falklands are just south of 51° South Latitude, so they are in the danger area, at least I think that’s the limit.

EO Peter
January 14, 2012 5:11 pm

No need to panic, the probability it fall on inhabited location are so minuscule, practically inexistant!
In fact, it is as probable as a space debris falling near Cosmonaut Street…

January 14, 2012 5:15 pm

Ric I don’t understand your explanation at all.
The M4 corridor and the Falkland Islands are in separate hemispheres.

Carla
January 14, 2012 5:34 pm

Russia hints at foul play in its space failures
By Str | AFP – Tue, Jan 10, 2012
The head of Russia’s beleaguered space programme hinted on Tuesday that foreign powers may be behind the string of failures that struck his agency in the past year.
Roskosmos chief Vladimir Popovkin told the Izvestia daily he could not understand why several launches went awry at precisely the moment the spacecraft were travelling through areas invisible to Russian radar.
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One of Russia’s most high-profile recent failures involved the November launch of a Mars probe called Phobos-Grunt that got stuck in a low Earth orbit and whose fragments are now expected to crash back down on Sunday.
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Popovkin was named the head of Russia’s space agency in April after its previous chief was sacked in the wake of an embarrassing loss of three navigation satellites during launch.
Yet the problems only multiplied under his watch as Russia lost several more satellites and also saw its Progress cargo ship experience its first-ever failure on a mission to the International Space Station.
The Mars mission setback was followed last month by the loss of the Meridian communications satellite. Its fragments crashed into the Novosibirsk region of central Siberia and hit a house ironically located on Cosmonaut Street No injuries were reported but the 50-centimetre (20-inch) fragment blew a hole in the home’s roof.
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/russia-hints-foul-play-space-failures-083817291.html
Russians planned on scooping up some Phobos Grunt (dirt) and “”RETURNING””………..How many stages in yur rockettes does that require. Group W thinks that the Russians were that comet Lovejoy that went a sun diving and came back………………out??? Just a zig zagging its way through the suns atmosphere at 87,000 miles 120,000 kilometers above the solar surface. wow I mean WOW……………
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D. Patterson
January 14, 2012 5:43 pm

The breakup and debris trail crosses all hemispheres.

Arizona CJ
January 14, 2012 6:18 pm

The hydrazine issue (and the other fuel is nitrogen tetroxide, also nasty) is a major one. If it’s liquid in aluminum tanks, it shouldn’t reach the ground. But… do we know the tanks are aluminum? Nope… only on Russia’s say-so, and they have a long history of being rather creative with the truth when things go wrong (such as Mars 96 coming down in Peru, and they claimed it was in the pacific, plutonium and all). The Russians are fond of titanium tanks, and nitrogen tetroxide corrodes aluminum unless totally anhydrous. The other issue is the fuel may have frozen by now, in which case it may very well reach the ground.
The orbital inclination is about 51 degrees, and perigee is over the southern hemisphere at about 41S, so we see it’s altitude increasing and then decreasing during it’s 87 minute orbits.
Now, for a climate-related observation: It’s VERY low; the only reason it’s still up there at all is the earth’s thermosphere is rather contracted at the moment, due to diminished solar activity.

Carla
January 14, 2012 6:19 pm

This image taken Jan 1st, of Phobos Grunt doesn’t look like 13.5 tonnes or even appear like it may have 11 tonnes of fuel left.
http://legault.perso.sfr.fr/phobos-grunt.html
Check out comet Lovejoy going into the solar atmosphere, tail accelerating out the top of the frame brightly and little comet lovejoy coming back out the bottom right in this video.
http://sungrazer.nrl.navy.mil/images/lovejoy/lovejoy_20111215b_cor1.mov
From the sungrazers website, http://sungrazer.nrl.navy.mil/index.php?p=news/birthday_comet#bottom

Eduardo Ferreyra
January 14, 2012 6:22 pm

“If you look at the Earth from space, most of it is covered by water.”
And if you don’t look it is still almost covered with water.
And the real name of the so called Falklands Islands is Islas Malvinas, as they were named “Malouines” by French whalers from Saint Malo in the 15th Century…

MattN
January 14, 2012 6:44 pm

Ric, there is at least 5000 miles between the Falklands and the M4 corridor…

Mac the Knife
January 14, 2012 7:00 pm

Gareth Phillips says:
January 14, 2012 at 12:45 pm
“It’s a pity. All that wonderful technology, all those great tools. Who will join me in saluting a star mangled spanner?”
I will, Gareth!
All across the central and south Atlantic, the natives will be singing “Jose, Can you see?”

RichyRoo
January 14, 2012 7:17 pm

@Katabasis: Yes, that is how inexact the prediction is, they cant even pick which hemisphere it will land it. Do you get that?

January 14, 2012 8:19 pm

http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Misc/PhobosGrunt3.php is presenting updated reentry estimates.

John Brookes
January 14, 2012 8:25 pm

And they don’t know where, because picking the precise time that it will “get caught” by the atmosphere is impossible.

u.k.(us)
January 14, 2012 9:09 pm

Umm,
it’s settled then ?

J.H.
January 14, 2012 9:39 pm

Pity it malfunctioned, it would have been an interesting space mission to follow. Poor ol’ Russians, they don’t have a lot of luck with missions to Mars. They’ll have to get a witch doctor in and break that hoodoo. 😉

Editor
January 14, 2012 9:48 pm

MarkW says: January 14, 2012 at 11:30 am
Duck

Chicken! 😉
And don’t say I’m being a turkey …
😎

January 14, 2012 9:57 pm

I can think of a building in East Anglia where they can use a knock on the noggin to knock some sense into them.