“The Oceans will begin to boil…” – yes he actually said that, along with some other silly things. Watch this video:
One wonders, if Dr. Hansen realizes that no scientist has yet presented any credible evidence that the “oceans boiled” millions of years ago when atmospheric CO2 values far exceeded the 390 ppm we have now. Of course, given that this is a “Climate Progress World” production, such inconvenient facts don’t matter, as its all about the scare.
Hansen apparently has Venus on the brain. Even normally alarmist Wikipedia doesn’t embrace Hansen’s “runaway greenhouse effect” on Earth.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_greenhouse_effect
The situation on Earth is very different from that which existed on Venus, as any terrestrial runaway effect is not irreversible on geological timescales. Potential runaway greenhouse effects on Earth may involve the carbon cycle, but unlike Venus will not involve boiling of the oceans. Earth’s climate has swung repeatedly between warm periods and ice ages during its history. In the current climate the gain of the positive feedback effect from evaporating water is well below that which is required to boil away the oceans. Climate scientist John Houghton has written that “[there] is no possibility of [Venus’s] runaway greenhouse conditions occurring on the Earth”.
h/t to WUWT reader “coldlynx”
“have” seen it coming.
@ur momisugly R.Gates
“Dr. Hansen didn’t seem terribly “unhinged” to me”
and that is the best defence you can offer for the grandfarter of the AGW cult !!! wow !!
I think he has reached, or gone well beyond, the tipping point.
This tends to happen when deluded people are confronted with reality, and when their enablers start to withdraw support for their delusions.
Sad for him but otherwise great. The more he talks like this the more people will realize what a genuinely mad ‘scientist’ this dishonest and deceptive fanatic is. And that can only lead to more recognition about the validity of his ’cause.’
Just watched it again.
The sickest part is the way he sort of smiles when he mentions some of his doomsday scenarios, as though he looks forward to them.
This boy is genuinely deranged. He should run away to some facility.
Robert Brown says:
January 12, 2012 at 3:28 pm
However, at least he’s honestly consistent. If you truly believe in a catastrophic tipping point, well, there is no well-understood upper bound on positive climate feedback, is there?
Well Dr. Hansen honestly and consistently just doesn’t seem to believe the sun affects our climate. That just might be his problem with bounds.
Retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist, Dr. John S. Theon, the former supervisor of James Hansen called Hansen an “embarrassment”. No more to add really apart from the fact Hansen has bad taste in the hat he parades around in!
“R. Gates says:
January 12, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Dr. Hansen didn’t seem terribly “unhinged” to me. Not that I agree with everything he’s saying in the video, or in general, but he’s hardly unhinged”.
R. Gates is new.
Worldly and wise is the man who questions the most rational of beings. Monsters keep a straight face during their executions, as is Hansen.
Will delusional suffice as a deescription, or do you lean towards something else like deliberate fraud? You don’t really think Hansen is a rational fraud doing it for the money, rather than a self-deluded person acting irrationally, or do you have a rational third option in mind? What else can explain such irratoinal beliefs and irrational behavior?
Before you are tempted to assert Hansen is not behaving irrationally, be kind enough to explain why his prediction for the submergence of the New York City highways should not be regarded as clear evidence of an irrational prediction, and explain how the Earth did not experience a tipping point in atmospheric carbon dioxide during the most recent hundreds of millions of years in which such levels ranged from more than 999,000 parts per million and one hundred times more massive to more than 1,000 parts per million.and current mass in the previous era.
If the oceans are going to boil, is there any point in us worrying about sealevel rise? Or the inundation of NYC?
Latimer Alder says:
January 12, 2012 at 11:05 pm
If the oceans are going to boil, is there any point in us worrying about sealevel rise? Or the inundation of NYC?
Geez, I would hope not. But then again I would think that if the oceans are boiling over that it would be impossible for the oceans to also be rising..but then again this is the same lunatic who as our famous RGates tells us is “not unhinged” is predicting the future with two predictions which can not both be correct.
That is what lunatics do you see…but no, the man is not crazy at all!
Of course, with global warming every prediction has always been about warmcold and every contradiction we can come up with. More snow in April and May in areas that never see snow that late in the year? Record cold snaps ? Global warming of course.
Why, I mean what else could cause those kind of cold snaps? It must be global warming because only global warming could cause global coooooooling. As I like to say, par from the course from the lunatic corner. And yes, I might be looking at a certain poster right this second who seems to think a certain Hansen is “not unhinged”. bahahahahahaha.
I can’t stop thinking about the man’s disdainful facial expressions while answering these questions. I’m sorry but that is barely-disguised contempt. Hansen seems incapable of disguising it, which suggests that he’s not trying to. It’s astounding that he can sit there and pretend to predict the future! What gives climate science the idea that it can do this??
was he on the white house guest list for the tea party?
Reblogged this on Basil Wheel.
Well it’s really really nice to see that both Gore and Hansen have gone florid, plus we’ve now had visits from Dana (Skeptical Science) and Wm Connolley (Wikipedia).
I still wait to see Hansen dismissed from NASA however.
George E. Smith; says:
January 12, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Wentz et al in SCIENCE for July 7, 2007 in a Peer reviewed paper: “How much more Rain will Global Warming bring ?” OBSERVED that a one deg C rise in the global mean surface Temperature resulted in a 7% increase in each of the variables: Total global evaporation (of H2O), Total Atmospheric water content, and Total global precipitation (of H2O)..
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George, this increase in water vapor, clouds, and perciptation wouild also, I presume, include an increase in convection and heat transport. Non linear effects are one of the limitations of feedbacks and it appears that this is a prime example of that. As T increases, for whatever reason, then an EVER GREATER percentage of increased W/m2 energy goes towards the H2o water cycle, as opposed to manifesting as additional T, especially if the increased energy is LWIR (as opposeed to SWR) which is all absorbed in a very thin layer of the top surface of the ocean. Have you ever heard of a chart which shows how the percentage of enrgy going into evaporation and latent heat conduction of energy increases as T rises? I presume these factors are a large part of why temperature in the tropics is now thought of as limited, but has this been quantified? Does the often discussed logarithmic decrease in the warming potential of CO2 include this, or is that based strictly on radiative principles and the ever increasing energy required for the water cycle would be a negative feed back to that?
Also, as you point out, H2O, in any form and phase while in the atmosphere, reduces the amount of solar energy which reaches the suface, (clear sky water vapor by about 20% if I remember correctly) How well is this surface reduction of solor insolation taken into account when CAGW proponents quantify the effect of GHG on upwelling LWIR? Thanks in advance as your cogent comments help this layman understand the science articulated here at WUWT.
There! Venus had run-away greenhouse effect. We have it straight from the horses mouth! Hence we no longer see any Venusians in their flying saucers. They got it wrong, failed to disamantle their polluting power stations and their flying saucer production facilities, and just look at what happened to them! A timely lesson for us all.
Geoff Alder
R Gates said
“Dr. Hansen didn’t seem terribly “unhinged” to me. Not that I agree with everything he’s saying in the video, or in general, but he’s hardly unhinged”.
Just what does a proponent of AGW have to do to be pronounced “unhinged”?
If I said I think AGW was caused purely and simply by the hot air produced by Jeremiah James,
would that make me unhinged?
R. Shearer says:
January 12, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Insane sociopath or just a pathological liar?
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I was at scripps aquarium about eight years ago I saw a man outside the entrance in conversation with another man about CAGW. He was very animated, worried, and bitterly complaing about the sceptics who were incomprehensible to him. His compaion was trying to sooth him as a mother would a child. I was just starting my search concerning CAGW and was very surprised a few days later when I saw an article about Jim Hansen and recognised him as the very animated and upset man I had seen as Scripps. The man is sincere, therfore insane sociopath gets my vote.
That graph is the wrong way round. Time moves to the right so youngest on the right.
Apart from that as a geologist I question the modeled historic CO2 levels. The rapid growth and development of vegetation during the Carboniferous would probably require a very high atmospheric CO2 content especially when you think of all that sequestered CO2 in coal.
I got to the boiling oceans and switched Hansen off. He has become near certifiable.
Did you see his lying eyes ?
Hansen doesn’t believe any of this. He is there only to disseminate “The Message”, given to him by his Lords and Masters. He receives those messages late at night whilst “staring into the abyss”. Murmuring incantations which would make the Roman Emperor Caligula seem lucid, and wearing ancient Babylonian garb, he reaches for the instrument of doom, and turning on the mechanism he then at last speaks…… The results can be viewed in the above video.
If only it were just lunacy such as described, but sadly this is part of a plan, to panic the gullible public to pour ever more funding into these fraudulent scams, so that Hansen and his mates will not only be enriched, but avoid incarceration for the multiple frauds they may have already committed.
It’s so sad to see NASA reach such low depths as this. Will they ever recover?
On the other hand I’ve never had such a good laugh for ages, thanks Dr Hansen.
He says that volcanoes were ersponsible for helping the earth out of the ice age. If that is the case, then how did the ice get there in the first place? or is he suggesting that volcanoes only started erupting after the earth became cocooned in ice
“R. Gates says:
January 12, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Dr. Hansen didn’t seem terribly “unhinged” to me.”
Ah, so just somewhat unhinged then? Perhaps slightly unhinged? Or maybe quite, hardly, narrowly, after a fashion, in a manner of speaking, just a little bit, a whit, a jot, nearly, on the brink of, at the very least or even virtually unhinged?
To paraphrase Barbara Skolaut above, I like my scientists hinged!
Hansen in his abundant stupidity has given Obama two good reasons for cutting the NASA budget first they employ Hansen and second with absolute honesty Hansen says that there is not a snowball in hells chance of us escaping to another planet. If that is the case – and it is – then why precisely should we continue funding NASA so that a bunch of over educated juveniles can live out their childhood fantasy dreams of Star Trek and Star Wars the stuff of Hollywood that most Americans would love to believe is the future. Hansen should have worked in Hollywood where his bizarre notions of the future could take form but of course its already been done without him so he really should be taken away very quietly in one of those all embracing white overcoats with elongated straps, buckles and chains and when the Chinese eventually decide to put a man on the moon volunteer Hansen as an experiment to see how early onset alzheimers reacts in a cold Co2 free environment and if it works then we how to resolve the climate issue for all time, lock all of the lunatics in a cold store at minus 30C saying that in there they will all be safe from the coming thermogeddon, they might well be daft enough to believe it, Excellent!!
I like the bit where he says the temps went up some 6+ degrees after the ice earth..so?
if they rose then, and seemed to have stopped..and we have plants people and animals still,
where/why? does he “ass ume” that if it happened again it also wouldnt reach a stable zone once again?
and 700mil years back, seems from what I’ve read we had some big icy times since then?
NASA has no cred while they continue to employ and allow this idiocy to be promulgated.