“The Oceans will begin to boil…” – yes he actually said that, along with some other silly things. Watch this video:
One wonders, if Dr. Hansen realizes that no scientist has yet presented any credible evidence that the “oceans boiled” millions of years ago when atmospheric CO2 values far exceeded the 390 ppm we have now. Of course, given that this is a “Climate Progress World” production, such inconvenient facts don’t matter, as its all about the scare.
Hansen apparently has Venus on the brain. Even normally alarmist Wikipedia doesn’t embrace Hansen’s “runaway greenhouse effect” on Earth.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_greenhouse_effect
The situation on Earth is very different from that which existed on Venus, as any terrestrial runaway effect is not irreversible on geological timescales. Potential runaway greenhouse effects on Earth may involve the carbon cycle, but unlike Venus will not involve boiling of the oceans. Earth’s climate has swung repeatedly between warm periods and ice ages during its history. In the current climate the gain of the positive feedback effect from evaporating water is well below that which is required to boil away the oceans. Climate scientist John Houghton has written that “[there] is no possibility of [Venus’s] runaway greenhouse conditions occurring on the Earth”.
h/t to WUWT reader “coldlynx”
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Yet again reality intrudes its ugly head into Hansen`s warmist fantasies .
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/slideshow_image/images/topic/news/120106-g-6458f-355-healy-escorts-renda.jpg
Yup , boiling oceans looks to be a problem for the “Renda”
(I know I posted about this previous article but it`s such a “Human Ingenuity vs Pitiless Nature ” story I couldn`t resist )
I’ve only watched the beginning. He says warming melts the ice from Greenland and Antarctica. The melting, in turn, cools the higher latitudes north and south, thus increasing the temperature gradient between them and the equator, causing more violent storms. So we have here a case of warming that acts on high latitudes to melt the ice, and *simultaneously* COOLS those latitudes to increase the temperature gradient.
I reckon we lock Hansen, Gore, and Flannery in a room for a few weeks, see who can come with the most idiotically outrageous prediction.
ps.. Again, waiting for the local AGW apologists to rush to Hansens aid.
I would LOVE to see how they justify this moronic idiocy.
How many turned up in the Al Gore 3 yr old kiddies propaganda game thread ???
It seems Hansen has decided that the most extreme exaggeration is the way to go in order to stimulate action. He’s tried other things and it hasn’t worked so now he is going extreme extremist.
Now that is a reasonable explanation of what he just did. There is no way he actually believes all that. His purpose was to really scare people in order to get some action.
But then that means he has been doing this all along.
And he is really the grandfather of this movement. He has therefore been doing this, stepping up the exaggeration, more and more every year, since the early 1980s. In other words, all of his science has been exaggerated from the start. And he is, obviously, not the only one who feels they need to do something in order to stimulate action.
This is what this science has increasingly become since 1980.
Please don’t tarnish the memory of Jim Henson–I have no idea of his politics, but he was a genius puppeteer, and his Muppets were the best. James Hanson on the other hand, needs to check himself into the psychiatric hospital before the men in white coats come.
“…And why the sea is boiling hot–
And whether pigs have wings.”
The Walrus and The Carpenter, Lewis Carroll
(from Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There, 1872)
Hansen is the Walrus, he is the Egg Man, koo-koo ka choo
Two words: nucking futz.
There will be a group, eventually, who will see numbers and signs in his predictions and will build stone circles with sacrificial alters. His books will be computerized and analysed for the “code”. Then one day they will all gather on the sacred day and drink some kind of potion as they wait for the spaceship hiding behind the moon. Those that survive the potion will say, “My bad. We meant 2240, not 2110. On THAT day, not the other day, the Earth will cease to be and we will be caught up into Hansenland. Amen.
Hansen? Doctor of what … voodoo? Baloney processing?
Why does NASA employ this wing-nut?
love how this goes from Pounds, to Euros to Dollars to get this piece of academic propaganda across in as many currencies as possible!
11 Jan: Guardian: by Arthur Neslen for EurActiv: Airlines could net £1.6bn windfall from EU carbon trading scheme, report says
Far from damaging US airlines, the EU’s Emissions Trading System (ETS) could deliver it a €2 billion windfall profit, according to a new report by a US Federal Aviation Administration-funded group of academics.
Bill Hemmings, the aviation spokesman for the European environmental pressure group Transport and Environment, said that it “called seriously into question” air industry claims that the ETS would leave them out of pocket.
“On the contrary, their real costs will probably be covered by being able to pass them on to passengers with minimal impact on their businesses,” Hemmings told EurActiv…
The peer-reviewed study in the Journal of Air Transport Management uses several complex modelling frameworks to calculate the effect that inclusion in the ETS’ third period – between 2013 and 2020 – would have on US airlines.
The study’s models make three key assumptions:
• A carbon price of €15 a tonne that increases by 4% a year
• A 35% increase in the airlines’ CO2 emissions between 2011 and 2020
• A full ‘pass-through’ of costs to the consumer
If all three happened, the report concludes that airlines could receive a $2.6 billion (€2.03 billion) bonanza…
However, even some staunch supporters of the ETS, questioned the methodology used in the report.
John Hanlon, the secretary-general of the European Low Fares Airline Association (ELFAA), said the central contention that allowance costs could be passed back to the consumer was a “canard” and a “fallacy”.
“I see no evidence to support that,” he told EurActiv…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jan/11/airlines-windfall-eu-carbon-trading?newsfeed=true
if it’s “one of the first”, who are the others, Reuters?
12 Jan: Reuters: UPDATE 2-AirAsia X pulls out of Europe, India
The airline is one of the first to cut routes after the European Union imposed a system of trading carbon emissions on airlines from the start of the year, drawing protests from China and the United States and fueling talk of a carbon trade war…
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/12/airasia-idUSL3E8CC3O420120112
11 Jan: ChannelNewsAsia: EU emissions trading scheme under siege
Many carriers have criticised the rule, saying it is a new tax. Some analysts have even suggested that this could be a way for Europe to raise extra tax revenue in order to bolster the governments’ finances…
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/economicnews/view/1176188/1/.html
Earth’s oceans will boil away but it won’t be from too much carbon in the atmosphere. It will be from too much helium in the sun as it makes its transition to a red giant! Bawhahahaha!!!!!!
Francisco says:
January 12, 2012 at 5:14 pm
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strange how that works, isn’t it?
warm/cold
wet/dry
drought/flood
…will never know what snow is
A question for NostraHansen – How much “train of death” coal does it take to boil an ocean? And where would we light the fire?
CAGW is full of fraudsters…some of whom are getting their comeuppance…
the one western MSM report on one of the biggest carbon fraud trials to date (u need to search out the french coverage and google translate for all the gory details):
12 Jan: Ninemsn, Australia: France convicts five on carbon tax fraud
A French court has convicted five people of a massive fraud of the EU’s
carbon trading system, sentencing them to up to five years in prison and
ordering them to pay millions of euros in damages.
The chief organiser of the fraud, Fabrice Sakoun, was on Wednesday given
five years while four accomplices were sentenced to between a year and four
years…
The case was the first of many such trials expected in France after the
discovery of a series of fraudulent carbon-trading schemes that cost the
French state up to 1.8 billion euros…
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8401692
4 Jan: BusinessGreen: BlueNext agrees €32m carbon fraud settlement
Fraudsters used front companies to sell carbon credits, before pocketing the
VAT charged on those trades and closing down the companies.
At the height of the fraud, Europol estimated that up to 90 per cent of the
whole market volume of trading was being perpetrated by fraudsters…
http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/news/2135206/bluenext-agrees-eur32m-carbon-fraud-settlement
Sometimes Mr. Watt you let things be posted just to get us stirred up. It worked this time for me.
Isn’t this a big news?
The NASA/GISS temp anomaly has plummeted to ZERO degC from Nov to Dec 2011:
http://junksciencearchive.com/MSU_Temps/MSUvsGISTEMP.html
‘Barking’ is being kind to him.
Let’s check another of this head tilter’s infamous predictions; the Manhattan perimeter highway.
Back in about 1980, Hansen pompously proclaimed to assembled journalists in his NYC office that the roadway below would no longer be there by 2010. Gasps of, “Why?”. “Because it will be underwater by then – the rising sea level, courtesy of GW”.
No measurable sea level rise has been recorded.
I guess this sad little fellow feels more important if he feels he can frighten the rattle-brains.
henrythethird says: January 12, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Hansen’s giving his employer (NASA) a new meaning for the acronym.
James Hansen: Not A Scientist Anymore
I think the last “A” in NASA refers to a fundamental orifice.
Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
Mayor: What do you mean, “biblical”?
Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.
Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes…
Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!
Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
Mayor: All right, all right! I get the point!
Starzmom
Yeah…this guy IS a muppet.
I first learned of greenhouse warming in a seminar at our physics department at Bozeman in 1974, probably, because it was my senior year. The speaker, from one of the Idaho schools I think, made the claim that 5C temperature rise would result in all water on Earth being locked-up as vapor in the atmosphere. Crazy stuff. I’d taken some historical geology and knew that claim to be suspicious. My suspicion continues.
Bah. Boiling, evaporating, sublimating, it’s all the same in Climate Science™!! Water has become vapor when it shouldn’t, and it’s All The Fault of Anthropogenic Climate Change!!
Accept your guilt, vile humanity, repent and turn away from the false god of Fossil Fuels BEFORE ALL IS LOST!!
Okay, now we’ll sit back and wait for the next Hansen rant, or next arrest, whatever shows up. Then we’ll quickly go back to ignoring him again.
Although if the “next thing” was Hansen committing seppuku on the steps of the US Capitol with a dagger made of anthracite coal, as a final act of defiance and call to activism… Might be worth the Top Post position for a day, maybe two.
Dr. Hansen didn’t seem terribly “unhinged” to me. Not that I agree with everything he’s saying in the video, or in general, but he’s hardly unhinged.
The Oceans will cool, great storms will arise, we couldnt transport Monarch butterflies to Mars to carry on our species, they will perish, the oceans will boil.. a snowball Earth is just cool ,,, but a warmer Earth … that aint cool man….
I stopped my car at the gate and walked home.
Boiling oceans could run steam turbines for cheap electricity to run air conditioners.
There is always a silver lining in these things if you look for one.