Tallbloke to take to torts

I’ve received this email from Roger Tattersall’s attorney (known as a solicitor in England) with the request that I post it. I’m happy to do so. Please see in the letter where the legal fund is being setup. – Anthony

To:

All those who feel offended and/or threatened by the actions taken against innocent climate enthusiast Roger Tattersall aka ‘Tallbloke’ as a result of the unsought anonymous drop of data from the person or persons known as ‘FOIA’.

That data is clearly in the public interest by virtue of having relevance to the wisdom of certain global policy decisions relating to energy use, energy supply and possibly global rationing of energy sources and the direct or indirect taxation of every individual on the planet for the foreseeable future.

Roger has been publicly libelled and abused across the world to the detriment of his reputation and has suffered distress, inconvenience and damage to property. The worst such offender appears to have been a contributor at ‘Scienceblogs’.

His privacy has been invaded and he and his family have been intimidated.

It is possible that treatment of that nature could be meted out to any persons expressing sceptical views about the so called climate consensus.

A clear signal needs to be sent out that such treatment is an abuse of process and a negation of free speech and democratic freedoms.

It is proposed to investigate all options open to Roger for the obtaining of suitable redress within the law. In the event that legal actions are considered appropriate it will be necessary to appoint suitably experienced Counsel to represent his interests and in this matter Roger’s interests coincide with those of all of who find themselves unable to feebly acquiesce in the pressure that is being applied to prevent them from exercising their hard won freedoms.

To that end, an appeal fund is being launched in order to finance the necessary steps. Contributions can be made via Roger’s Paypal account as displayed on his site (http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/) and all funds received for that purpose are to be transferred to the Client Account of his solicitors Wilde & Company.

Any funds not eventually used for necessary legal expenses will be donated to a selection of climate sceptic organisations. Accounting procedures will be put in place in compliance with the requirements of the UK regulatory system governing the proper use of Client monies held by UK solicitors.

Stephen P R Wilde. LLB (Hons.), Solicitor.

Wilde & Co. Cheshire England

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December 17, 2011 8:45 pm

£20 stuffed into the fighting fund from my “Christmas turkey” fund.
I’d better get used to bread and water by the way that I’ve been blogging.

December 17, 2011 8:50 pm

20 lb to the cause.

Dr. Dave
December 17, 2011 9:15 pm

The day before yesterday (I believe) James Delingpole wrote a blog piece about this story. The comment I left was that, “Over at WUWT Tallbloke is regarded as “family.”” Today, reading this comment thread, I nearly had tears in my eyes. We do, indeed, take care of our own.
What stuns me is the involvement of the US DoJ in this case. Why would Holder’s DoJ care one whit about hacked or leaked emails from a university in the UK? Unless maybe these cast some very important political/business folks in a very unfavorable light. Donation to Tallbloke forthcoming.

Ed Forbes
December 17, 2011 9:30 pm

donation sent

December 17, 2011 10:02 pm

Mr. Tattersall (Tallbloke) needs to engage representation from the Plaintiff’s Bar in these United States as well, inasmuch as Dr. Michael E. Mann has (and other warmistas on this side of the Atlantic have) uttered arguably actionable libelous statements which must be examined with an eye to the recovery of compensatory and punitive damages on Mr. Tattersall’s behalf.
When I got my first look at the communications of “Mike’s Hockey Team” on 18 November 2009, I predicted that Dr. Mann and the rest of these quacks would be dodging subpoenas duces tecum in civil actions for the rest of their lives.
Couldn’t happen to a more contemptible cadre of charlatans.

Eyal Porat
December 17, 2011 10:06 pm

daveburton says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Dave, from what I see here, you have a real cause for liability against Greg Laden.
It seems this kind of conduct by the likes of him can get one to be investigated and even searched at home.
You should contact him with demand for public apology by him in his blog. If he refuses, then U should consider exactly what Tallbloke does.

December 17, 2011 10:17 pm

Greg Laden himself seems to believe in swift legal redress. In comments on a (defamatory) post at Planetsave by Zachary Shahan, one Markus had posted: “Be very wary. The retribution that will be inflicted on those warminista, who have harmed the orderly progress of humankind and the poorest of the poor, will reverberate throughout academia, for generations.”
In response, Laden posted: “I think Markus is threatening you and you should sue him.”
Laden, seemingly, would consider even a polite warning as a threat.
Stranger: “Young boy, be more careful! You are running too closely to that cliff! If you slide on that slippery surface you could fall onto the rocks far below and suffer serious injuries or even death!
Foolish Boy: “Help, police! This stranger is issuing death threats!”

F. Ross
December 17, 2011 10:26 pm


LazyTeenager says:
December 17, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Tallbloke wants to make a statement and be a hero.

[emphasis added]
So, … are you clairvoyant then?

December 17, 2011 10:31 pm

In response to the comment posted by daveburton at 8:19 PM on 17 December, and having not only been “raised Catholic” but educated in a Jesuit university, I went to the Douay-Rhiems version for my check on those bible verses.
Luke 16:10 (per the honest daveburton): “He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in that which is greater: and he that is unjust in that which is little is unjust also in that which is greater”
Deuteronomy 3:1-7 (in the substitution perpetrated by the lying warmista fascist dog-futterer, Greg Laden):

3:1 – Then we turned and went by the way of Basan: and Og the king of Basan came out to meet us with his people to fight in Edrai.
3:2 – And the Lord said to me: Fear him not: because he is delivered into thy hand, with all his people and his land: and thou shalt do to him as thou hast done to Sehon king of the Amorrhites, that dwelt in Hesebon.
3:3 – So the Lord our God delivered into our hands, Og also, the king of Basan, and all his people: and we utterly destroyed them,
3:4 – Wasting all his cities at one time, there was not a town that escaped us: sixty cities, all the country of Argob the kingdom of Og in Basan.
3:5 – All the cities were fenced with very high walls, and with gates and bars, besides innumerable towns that had no walls.
3:6 – And we utterly destroyed them, as we had done to Sehon the king of Hesebon, destroying every city, men and women and children:
3:7 – But the cattle and the spoils of the cities we took for our prey.

…which gives me to wonder whether in the course of legal action against this Laden schmuck, his counsel is going to try for a diminished capacity defense.
I’m not a pshrink, but insofar as my professional opinion goes (I’ve lost count of how many cases of decompensated schizophrenia I’ve evaluated in the Emergency Department over the decades), it’s a line of legal strategy worth pursuing.
Not enough for an acute “danger to himself and others” involuntary commitment but perhaps sufficient to convince a petit jury that Mr. Laden had been non compos mentis in his online utterances.

johanna
December 17, 2011 10:32 pm

daveburton says:
December 17, 2011 at 8:19 pm
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Gosh, Dave, this guy sounds like there are a few connections upstairs that are well and truly shorted out. If he has any assets, he had better get rid of them soon, before the lawyers get to him.
Did you post under your own name? If so, looks like another libel suit could be winging its way to him – if you care to take it that far. (I’m assuming that you have verifiable records of what you actually posted and when).
Have also flung funds at Roger T.

December 17, 2011 10:49 pm

A further note on the 8:19 PM (17 December) post by daveburton on the substitution perpetrated by Greg Laden in his snakepit of a Web log at 10:16 PM on 15 December, the removal of daveburton’s original line:

4. Roger Tattersall is not a thief, stole nothing, and has been told that he’s not a suspect.

…with Laden’s

4. Roger Tattersall may as well be a thief, even if he stole nothing, and has been told that he’s not a suspect.

…is arguably an undertaking on Greg Laden’s part to render daveburton susceptible to charges of libel against Mr. Tattersall.
This is Greg Laden’s knowing attribution to another person of a statement calculated to cause material damages to that person, and is itself an actionable tort.
daveburton, please consider bringing both criminal charges and an action for compensatory and punitive damages against Greg Laden. I’m not an attorney, but I strongly suspect that you have grounds for such measures.

RexAlan
December 17, 2011 10:53 pm

Donation Sent.
Good luck Roger.
Hope my bit helps!

Sleepalot
December 17, 2011 11:00 pm

It seems to me that a libel case against Mann would also help Dr Ball (is it?) who is being sued by Mann.

Reply to  Sleepalot
December 18, 2011 12:17 am

At 6:11 PM on 17 December Greg Laden closed comment postings on his belatedly modified “Computers Seized in Cyber-Theft Investigation” post.
Pity. I was going to post him a helpful reference to
The Associated Press Stylebook and Briefing on Media Law (my personal copy is titled The Associated Press Stylebook and Libel Manual), which provides (per Wiki-bloody-pedia) “An overview of legal issues and ethical expectations for those working in the journalism industry.”
With the understanding that both Tallbloke and the egregious Mr. Laden, as Web loggers, each fall under the rubric of “journalist,” somebody ought to advise Mr. Laden of the ethical standards expected of him, and the liabilities to which he is subject.
If he hasn’t already sought competent counsel in this matter, he really ought to stir his stumps and do so, first thing Monday morning.

Latimer Alder
December 17, 2011 11:03 pm

For those who do not wish to boost Greg Laden’s already impressive ego by looking at his blog, here are what seem to be his final words on the matter (for now).
The substance of his rant appears to be that Tallbloke is a Brit and Laden doesn’t like us Brits very much. I have summoned every sinew of my stiff upper lip, and am pleased to report that I have endured the great sadness of his poor opinion without too much trauma.

If Tattersall knowingly received stolen goods, and it seems he did (essentially) and rather than reporting that to the authorities, passed those goods on, he would be a criminal in US law. I consider him, therefore, to have likely committed a crime. Others are more than welcome to disagree. We are awaiting news of charges being filed.
Since this happened in Britain, where apparently all the laws are the exact opposite of what we have in the US, perhaps he is a hero there. Perhaps that is why we had a Revolution and kicked Limey butt over two centuries ago, and perhaps it is why we’ve had to bail the British out of trouble in major wars twice.
Or, perhaps the sociopathic hoards of rat-people currently leaving the sinking ship of climate change denialism are not representative of the rest of the British people. Anyone out there from the UK who is not an insane felon-sympathizing upstanding science-respecting citizen want to chime in and defend your people?
It says something about Global Warming Denialists that the only response they can muster to me expressing this opinion … that Tattersall did something very very wrong and that it was the end point of a series of crimes committed by outside hackers (we do essentially know this to be true) … is to a) threaten to sue me b) tell me about all the other people who are going to sue me c) tell me about all the lawyers they are talking to who say I can easily be sued d) send me obnoxious and harassing notes every ten minutes around the clock as comments on my blog or as emails and e) send the occasional threat of physical harm, then we know something about them. And the picture this paints is not pretty.
The people who are doing this are also criminals, or at least, bullies, who have nothing useful to contribute to the problems we as a civilization have to deal with. Harassment and threats of physical violence are not OK.
I blame the press for giving enough credibility to these miscreants and misfits that they maintain the belief that they have even an iota of legitimacy. They don’t.
There is an upside, however. Every several minutes I get anywhere form 50 to about 500 words of invective yammering from one or another internet bully, and I consider every one of them to be a criminal in their own sick little way, which I put in a holding bin where they will never be seen on my blog. That’s a lot of “man” hours being spent by global warming denialists, criminals … against the environment and against humanity and against the next generation of people .. every one in my view, for nothing.
And you know exactly who you are, because you are the ones writing the emails and the blog comments.
Keep it coming. The more of this you do, the more distracted you will be, and the less damage you can do in your other activities, which I assume include a certain amount of other criminal, felonious acts of unspecified nature as well.

Jean Michel
December 17, 2011 11:14 pm

Contribution de 50£ versée de bon coeur pour la bonne Cause 😉
Bonne chance, Roger
Cdt e.r J.Cl Michel (Belgium)

December 17, 2011 11:15 pm

Gettum Tallbloke.
And (as Daniel Hannan says) (emphasis mine): “F U Lazy Dumbass Teenager.”
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

December 17, 2011 11:44 pm

Donation made. Good luck Tallbloke

December 17, 2011 11:50 pm

Another donation from me too. Good luck with the fight Roger – right is on your side!

Agust
December 18, 2011 12:00 am

£20 was just sent from Iceland
Regards, Ágúst

Cirrius Man
December 18, 2011 12:02 am

Donation forthcoming from Australia
On the topic of who actually leaked the information, … speculation of course !
NB: If you consider the normal security standards that most organisations of this size would deploy
To copy all the emails, you would need access to the actual file server where the mail archives are stored, or the backup server. This file server would usually only be accessible by the IT staff at administrator level, so you would need appropriate permissions. Further, to FTP the data off to an external server/PC via the net would not be possible since there would be firewall rules in place to prevent FTP, except to allowed internal destinations for backup purpose, etc. Also, to copy directly off via the net would require much time due to the physical size of the information (We are probably talking 100’s Gigabytes +). You would therefore risk being caught having a session open for many days and leave an easy trail for police.
What seems more logical would be that someone within the university with access copied the data to a tape or other backup medium and simply walked away.
Whilst this is my pure speculation, I cannot imagine how you could do this any other way and get away with it.
So why would they raid Tallbloke ?
Of course, they figured the real culprit possibly had direct contact with him, which means they have no IP address or other info from server logs, further implying an inside job.
So my point here is that if you have any common sense and think about the situation just a tad, then you know that Tallbloke is not likely the thief.

Wellington
December 18, 2011 12:19 am

An eager and hateful man with a disorganized little mind this Greg Laden, isn’t he?

Wellington
December 18, 2011 12:26 am

Contribution sent. Good luck, Roger.

Richard S Courtney
December 18, 2011 12:49 am

LazyTeenager says at December 17, 2011 at 4:20 pm:
“Here is a bit of advice for Tallbloke. Don’t do this. You do not understand the consequences that follow from this.”
Well, here is a bit of advice for LazyTeenager. Get a brain.
Richard

aeroguy48
December 18, 2011 1:22 am

If enough of us donate, and use the excess funds plus the pro bono work I think we should expand the Law suits to get to the real truth about climate/commies Government collusion. Maybe the publicity will get some attention about the climate fraud.

Laurie
December 18, 2011 1:23 am

I don’t care what they call us. Sceptics is fine. I just want the power/money grab to be put down and honesty to prevail. Tossed my nickel in the drum. Best wishes for a happy outcome, Roger.
Laurie