Climate FAIL from A to Z presented at Durban

This might be a bit overzealous per Morano’s unique writing style, but compared to some of the stuff we’ve seen from warmists, pretty mild. Lots of useful links and notes – Anthony

By Marc Morano  –  Climate Depot

Below is the Introduction to the report. Full report is available here. (PDF)

INTRODUCTION:

Many of the proponents of man-made global warming are now claiming that climate change is worse than they predicted. According to an October 18, 2011 Daily Climate article, global warming activists claim that the “evidence builds that scientists underplay climate impacts” and “if anything, global climate disruption is likely to be significantly worse than has been suggested.”

But this exclusive Climate Depot exhaustive A-Z Climate Reality Check report on the scientific reality of the failure of man-made global warming shatters any such illusions that the climate is “worse than we thought.” As the real world evidence mounts that global warming claims are failing, the climate activists have ramped up predictions of future climate change impacts to declare that it “worse than we thought.” But a prediction or projection of 50-100 years into the future is not “evidence.” Recent scientific data and developments reveal that Mother Nature is playing a cruel joke on the promoters of man-made climate fears.

The scientific reality is that on virtually every claim — from A-Z — the claims of the promoters of man-made climate fears are failing, and in many instances the claims are moving in the opposite direction. The global warming movement is suffering the scientific death of a thousand cuts. This Climate Depot special report categorizes and indexes the full range of climate developments in a handy A-Z reference guide. The A-Z report includes key facts, peer-reviewed studies and the latest data and developments with links for further reading, on an exhaustive range of man-made global warming claims.

The Antarctic sea ice extent has been at or near record extent in the past few summers and the ice is expanding, the Arctic has rebounded in recent years since the low point in 2007, polar bears are thriving, sea level is not showing acceleration and is actually dropping, Cholera and Malaria are failing to follow global warming predictions, Mount Kilimanjaro melt fears are being made a mockery by gains in snow cover, global temperatures have been holding steady for a decade or more and many scientists are predicting global cooling is ahead, deaths due to extreme weather are radically declining, global tropical cyclone activity is near historic lows, the frequency of major U.S. hurricanes has declined, the oceans are missing their predicted heat content, big tornados have dramatically declined since the 1970s, droughts are not historically unusual nor caused by mankind, there is no evidence we are currently having unusual weather, scandals continue to rock the climate fear movement, the UN IPCC has been exposed as being a hotbed of environmental activists, former Vice President Al Gore is now under siege by his fellow global warming activists for attempting to link every bad weather event to man-made global warming and scientists from around the world continue to dissent from man-made climate fears at a rapid pace.

Climate Depot’s new A-Z report reveals that the great man-made global warming catastrophe that was predicted – has been cancelled.
In addition to the scientific collapse of anthropogenic global warming fears, the political collapse has been just as stunning. President Obama has been criticized by former Vice President Al Gore for failing to do enough when it comes to climate change legislation. The now defunct and “scientifically meaningless” Congressional climate bill failed because the Democrats realized it was political suicide. The new political expediency in Washington is global warming skepticism. The UN global warming treaty process lay in shambles. See: Democrat Walter Russell Mead analyzes Gore: Gore steered the green movement ‘into a tsunami of defeat that…will loom as one of the greatest failures of civil society in all time.’

Proponents of anthropogenic climate change have been reduced to making outlandish claims of a mythical 97% or 98% consensus. See: Global Warming: A ‘98% Consensus Of Nothing’: ‘Only shameless activists or statistically ignorant claim that survey of 77 anonymous scientists’ is proof of 98% ‘consensus’. Once esteemed science groups like the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) have now corrupted and have used taxpayer money to lobby for the passage of climate bills. See: Ralph Cicerone’s Shame: NAS Urges Carbon Tax, Becomes Advocacy Group — ‘political appointees heading politicized scientific institutions that are virtually 100% dependent on gov’t funding’ & NAS Pres. Ralph Cicerone Turns Science Org. into political advocacy group: $6 million NAS study is used to lobby for global warming bill & MIT’s Richard Lindzen: ‘Cicerone of NAS is saying that regardless of evidence the answer is predetermined. If gov’t wants carbon control, that is the answer that the NAS will provide’

Movement ‘was bound to fail’

A movement that had Al Gore – one of the most divisive political figures – as the face of the movement, was bound to fail. A movement that utilized the scandal ridden United Nations – which is massively distrusted by the American people – as the repository of science, was doomed to fail. Gore and the UN IPCC are now reduced to pointing to every storm, flood, hurricane or tornado as proof of man-made global warming. The UN has been reduced to blaming man-made global warming for prostitution. See: Climate Astrology — ‘It Has Been Foretold’ of Extreme Weather: ‘UN IPCC science has a status similar to interpretations of Nostradamus and the Mayan calendars’ & Climate Astrology borrows from the past: ‘Before That Witch Moved Into The Neighborhood, We Never Had Bad Weather Or Disease’

But a scientific moment of clarity is now prevailing: The UN and the U.S. Congress do not have the power to legislate, tax or regulate the weather. See: Princeton University Physicist Dr. Will Happer: ‘The idea that Congress can stop climate change is just hilarious’ – Warns of ‘climate change cult’ – July 8, 2009 – Prominent scientists continue to challenge the alleged “consensus.” See: Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Who Endorsed Obama Dissents! Dr. Ivar Giaever Resigns from American Physical Society Over Group’s Promotion of Man-Made Global Warming

‘Climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, or variables’

The idea that CO2, a trace essential gas in the atmosphere that humans exhale form their mouth, is the main climate driver is now being challenged by peer-reviewed studies, data and scientists from around the globe. It is not simply, the sun or CO2 when looking at global temperatures, it is the Sun, volcanoes, tilt of the Earth’s axis, water vapor, methane, clouds, ocean cycles, plate tectonics, albedo, atmospheric dust, Atmospheric Circulation, cosmic rays, particulates like Carbon Soot, forests and land use, etc. Climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, or variables, not just CO2.

Professor Emeritus of Biogeography Philip Stott of the University of London explained the crux of the entire global warming debate when he rebutted the notion that CO2 is the main climate driver.

“As I have said, over and over again, the fundamental point has always been this: climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, or variables, and the very idea that we can manage climate change predictably by understanding and manipulating at the margins one politically-selected factor (CO2), is as misguided as it gets,” Stott wrote.

Even the global warming activists at RealClimate.org admitted to this key climate reality in a September 20, 2008 article. “The actual temperature rise is an emergent property resulting from interactions among hundreds of factors,” RealClimate.org explained.

The global warming movement continues to lose scientists, many formerly with the UN IPCC. See: More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims – Challenge UN IPCC & Gore

The future does not look bright for global warming activists as more scandals continue to rock the movement. See: Climate Depot’s Exclusive Round Up of Climategate 2.0 – Read about the most comprehensive report on the latest global warming scandal – Even warmists are lamenting that Climate 2.o may be ‘devastating’: ‘These [emails] sound worse than I thought at first – their impact will be devastating’

MIT climate scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen has observed that “Ordinary people see through man-made climate fears — but educated people are very vulnerable.”

  www.ClimateDepot.com

A-Z Climate Reality Check (Editor’s Note: This A-Z report will be regularly updated and will serve as a handy reference guide to man-made global warming claims.)

Full PDF report is available here.

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ThePowerofX

[Using multiple screen names violate site Policy. ~dbs, mod.]

Al Gored

Shouldn’t really use the word “fail.” It will damage their self-esteem. They do deserve marks for Attendance. They have been very good at attending these expense account parties even when they have had to fly all the way to beach resorts around the world in December.

Gail Combs

Now if someone would just stand up and read that to the Circus Act in Durban. On the other hand we have Lord Monckton and that is even better.

Roger Knights

I think we’ve reached a tipping point!!!

albertalad

Excellent article – many, many links here that are indeed make this article a keeper if you want to play in the AGW arena we’re all gonna die by next Tuesday lottery. I’m getting confused how many times and ways we’re supposed to be eradicated – the Bible guy predicted a few months ago, as the Bible guys predicted thousands of years ago and we’re still going, and the year before that and so on, the Mayans by 2012, the global warming zealots we’re all gonna dies every other week, NASA telling us aliens are gonna wipe us out because of global warming, it’s worse than we thought keeps getting recirculated – and each time even worse than the last time.
How can semi-sane humans ever read this stuff let alone so called serious newspaper and TV news regurgitate this garbage without laughing hysterically?

Scott Covert

If the Newyork Times would put that on the front page it might do some good. You are preaching to the choir Bro.

Scarface

Marc Morano, another hero in the fight against the AGW-cult. Great post! Thanks!

TheFlyingOrc

A damn fine resource of links. It really seems like the skeptics are winning, which I would have never predicted 3 or 4 years ago.

“if anything, global climate disruption is likely to be significantly worse than has been suggested.”
… for their wallet$.

Roger Knights

Bloomberg: “US Delay on Climate Pact spurs backlash”:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-07/u-s-delay-on-climate-pact-spurs-backlash-from-eu-to-barbados.html
An intensely alarmist, slanted article, reflecting Bloomberg’s latest expansion into greenism with his “sustainability” section, tabbed on his main page.

Looks like Penn State University does a lot more than whitewash climate gate scams Jerry Sandusky Taken Out of Home in Handcuffs http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Jerry-Sandusky-Taken-Out-of-Home-in-Handcuffs-135184658.html?dr

johnnyrvf

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1812/MIT-Climate-Scientist-Ordinary-people-see-through-manmade-climate-fears–but-educated-people-are-very-vulnerable
I find that remark sums up the complete lack of understanding of what and how intelligence is to some acdemics, I know many people of all age groups who are successful in many areas of Engineering, Catering, Business, Science who are in no way ‘vunerable’and have seen through the CAGW scam just as surely as other aquaintances and friends who may not have academically ‘high’ I.Q’s but being farmers, market traders, etc are in no way limited in intellect or mental capacity and probably have a much better standard of living than Dr. Lindzen does, not living in an artificial reality driven by fear.

Could we stick to what they say is true only?

pat

nicely timed weather event, coinciding with Durban:
8 Dec: Australian: Sarah Elks with AAP: La Nina is behind record summer lows
BRISBANE residents yesterday shivered through the city’s coldest December day in 123 years, while Sydney has recorded its iciest start to summer in 51 years…
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/la-nina-is-behind-record-summer-lows/story-e6frg6nf-1226216722372

JEM

ThePowerOfX – You are referring to the claims about Antarctic ice extent? Or Antarctic and Arctic ice levels and polar-bear populations?
While Morano’s a bit of a bomb-thrower and sometimes as guilty of cherry-picking as those pastry chefs on the warmist side he’d criticize for it, I don’t see anything particularly outlandish or unsupportable in his claims here.

JonBo

I was interested in the first point Mark raises in his article i.e. that arctic ice has rebounded since 2007 and was wanting to find his source. I checked out the PDF which then gave a link to climate depot but the link on this page just brought me back again and seemed to just go in a circular fashion. I have still not been able to find the source. Is anyone else having the same or similar problem, or am I going wrong somewhere in my search. Any help gratefully received. Thanks.

SSam

Al Gored says:
“… They do deserve marks for Attendance…”
In my opinion the only attendance award that they deserve involve penal institutions.

ThePowerofX says: “The first 3 claims are pure BS. I stopped reading after that.
TPoX – I see you provide no evidence to back up your statement. The first three claims were:
1. The Antarctic sea ice extent has been at or near record extent in the past few summers and the ice is expanding,
2. the Arctic has rebounded in recent years since the low point in 2007
3. polar bears are thriving
(Links were provided, see the main post)
Perhaps you would like to provide evidence that these three claims are incorrect. One thing you will find on WUWT is that people do pay attention to actual evidence.
NB, if you regard 2 and 3 above as one claim, then add in
3. sea level is not showing acceleration and is actually dropping

Skiphil

Roger Knights says:
December 7, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Bloomberg: “US Delay on Climate Pact spurs backlash”:
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The word ‘backlash’ is ridiculous — all the article showed as a bit of whiny bleating from the usual suspects.
A more accurate (if long-winded) headline would be “US Hint of Rationality Provokes Pathetic Whining From the Usual Freeloaders and Parasites”

JonBo – same here. A good place to look for all sorts of climate data is WUWT’s ‘Reference Pages’ in the top menu. Arctic ice is above the 2007 level no matter how you look at it. It could be argued that “rebounded” is a bit strong, but the visual comparison …
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=12&fd=05&fy=2007&sm=12&sd=05&sy=2011
(laterst date available)
… does show thicker ice now across most of the Arctic.

JEM

JonBo – when you click on the link in the Morano article, it takes you to a stub entry on the climatedepot site with ‘Visit Site’ in the title bar. That link then takes you to an entry at the WorldClimateReport blog that references a paper published in GRL.
A little circuitous but maybe he wants to spread the clicks around…

Latitude

Thanks Marc!

K2

“Recent scientific data and developments reveal that Mother Nature is playing a cruel joke on the promoters of man-made climate fears.”
Mother Nature doesn’t play cruel jokes. The ignorant AGW pranksters are the cruel joke.

Cassandra

JOnas etc…Please when you ANSWER THESE warmist or climategate team GUYS SUPPLY LINKS! 1. Check DMI ice extent yes NH ice has been increasing since low of 2007. 2. Check Cryosphere today (a warmist site) Yes antarctic has been ABOVE anomaly for about 3 years on average. 3. Yes temperatures have been falling since 2000 probably not significantly but they sure aint rising. This months average probably a negative anomaly or a zero, check Roy spencers CURRENT satellite temps (NOAA monitors this UAH University of Alabama)

John West

That’s a Google +1 post.

crosspatch

per Morano’s unique writing style

That’s a very diplomatic way to put it. His site looks like a hoarder’s garage.

crosspatch

Shouldn’t really use the word “fail.” It will damage their self-esteem.

Right. We should use THEIR word … “discredited”.

Marian

Unfortunately it looks like a number of Govt’s around the World aren’t getting the message. Too busy trying to appease and suckup to the UN agenda!
NZ, Australia sleepwalk to climate suicide
http://www.investigatemagazine.co.nz/Investigate/?p=2030

davidmhoffer

That’s it? 25 comments and the most negative thing about the article is Anthony saying it might be over zealous? Where the heck are the trolls? My favourite passtime is troll baiting, and I count on WUWT to real them in for me. Sorry, this powerlessX guy doesn’t even count as a troll! He needs an upgrade to get to troll! But he must be a green trollet (trolip? starter troll? what?), that’s why he’s powerless…
Oooh, I’m stretching if I used a line like that. Maybe itz up to us skeptics to play devil’s advocate in order that we have an actual debate going in these threads? Here, I’ll give it a go.
Sniff…well obviously all you folks at WUWT are suffering from mass confirmation bias. The author is a known propogandist with an openly known agenda to cast doubt on climate science by any means. Marc Morano’s obvious hatred of anything positive for the long term good of mankind is expressed in his over the top pronouncements and cherry picked studies. Consider the links he’s posted in his article. What do almost all of them have in common?
They are actual measurements, that’s what! Did any of those study authors, even one of them, consult with the modeling community? For those new to the climate debate, do you even know what a serious offence that is? Wolfgang Wagner, a PhD professor in Vienna, and the former editor of the prestigous journal Remote Sensing has to resign his position as editor and leave the journal in complete embarrasment for letting a coolist paper that was based on actual measurements get published without getting input from modelers first. He even had to apologize in person to Kevin Trenberth, that’s how bad basing studies on data instead of models actually is. Would you trust your kids with this guy? I think not.
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OK everyone, have fun tearing me apart for that. I’ll read all the comments in a couple of hours, and hopefull there will be some hilarious riposts. A couple of hours is how long it is going to take me to stand in the shower and see if I will ever feel clean again…

Gary Mount
Gary Mount

crosspatch says:
December 7, 2011 at 6:10 pm
per Morano’s unique writing style
That’s a very diplomatic way to put it. His site looks like a hoarder’s garage.

Some people call sites like that a news aggregator site.
I find his site… entertaining. I do wish he could indicate which links takes one to a warmist article. I hate it when that happens and I am not prepared.

Bob K

Playing something like this would seem to be appropriate for the closing ceremonies at Durban. 😉

Old woman of the north

The Australian public broadcasting corporation ABC is ramping up the stories of warming in every way possible at the moment in support of our idiot goverment giving away $millions to ‘climate changed countries’ without once mentioning that each of these places has vast population growth, which is what is affecting environments by over use – nothing to do with climate. The world will have droughts, floods, freezes etc despite what humans do. I despair of finding a rational thought with these people! All these enormous donations will do is feed corruption.

ferdberple

pat says:
December 7, 2011 at 3:45 pm
BRISBANE residents yesterday shivered through the city’s coldest December day in 123 years, while Sydney has recorded its iciest start to summer in 51 years…
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/la-nina-is-behind-record-summer-lows/story-e6frg6nf-1226216722372
Gillard’s CO2 policies are evidently having an impact on temperatures in Oz. As Gore pointed out, temperatures fall first, then CO2 follows.

G. Karst

Canada’s CBC is currently running a poll which was worded, by design, to ensure condemnation of Canada’s withdrawal from Kyoto.
The way it was worded, it was hard for a skeptic to vote
Is Canada doing its part in the global fight against climate change?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2011/12/is-canada-doing-its-part-in-the-global-fight-against-climate-change.html
Despite this! The poll results currently are:
Yes – 47.7%
No – 51.3 %
Undec – >1%
Another fail. GK

Ammonite

Please refer to G. Foster, and S. Rahmstorf, “Global temperature evolution 1979–2010”, Environmental Research Letters, vol. 6, 2011, pp. 044022. This paper strips out ENSO, volcanic effects and solar variation across GISS, NCDC, CRU, RSS, UAH temperature series for the period covering the satellite era. Temperature is *rising* consistently at ~0.16C/decade in all the series tested. The rise is significant in all cases. Check out RealClimate http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/12/global-temperature-news/ for more detail.
For the genuinely skeptical reader, the results of Foster and Rahmstorf are worth pondering. If the theory of AGW is so far off the mark as a theory, how is it that temperature is consistently rising?

davidmhoffer

G. Karst;
Is Canada doing its part in the global fight against climate change? >>>
That’s actually hilarious. The CBC and most of the media in Canada are wringing their hands about Canada getting out of Kyoto as if the mere act of doing so will cause the entire polar bear population to drop dead on the spot…
And 47% say… good enough for me?
And keep in mind…that’s the people who frequent the CBC!
(for our American friends, CBC regards Obama as a raving right wing lunatic)

JEM

@Gary Mount – I think Morano’s trying to emulate Drudge, though he doesn’t turn over his news nearly as fast.
As for warmist content…I clicked on one of his links the other day and found myself at ThinkProgress. When push comes to shove, if I had a heart attack and dropped dead at my desk I suspect I’d rather my heirs find a bunch of Japanese fecal-porn sites in my browser cache than StinkProgress.

jorgekafkazar

Nice, Marc.

otsar

Ammonite,
What do you think might be responsible for the 0.16C/decade temperature rise?

davidmhoffer

Ammonite;
For the genuinely skeptical reader, the results of Foster and Rahmstorf are worth pondering. If the theory of AGW is so far off the mark as a theory, how is it that temperature is consistently rising?>>>
Whoopee! a TROLL!
Set/Troll Baiting = On
OK Ammonite, let’s start by saying that I agree with you that temperature is consistently rising. the graphs in those article start around 1950 and 1980 which is a pretty short time period. Really, the temperature has been consistently rising for….centuries. Since the Little Ice Age. Of course the little ice age was really only a blip in the grand scheme of things… if you take that out…the temperature has been rising for the last several thousand years…since the last full ice age. Of course, even in those scare graphs (ever notice how when you take a picture of an ant and blow it up really big it looks scary as all get out, but really, itz just an ant? Try graphing those temps on a proper scale in degrees K from0 to 350 and…ooops, looks almost flat) but back to the scare graphs, even in them, temps are pretty much flat for the last 10 to 15 years, despite CO2 being the highest EVER…and don’t go on about aerosols in China having a cooling effect, their coal plants are as clean as our and we’ve cleaned up more smog problems in North America and Europe inthe last 50 years than China can possibly compensate for….so….where’s the warming? All you got is graphs with close ups to make tiny variations look like monster ants and warming trends that are thousands of years old, long before CO2 started to increase at all.
Whew. Really needed that,thanks!
Any other drive by troll comments? Hitting the hay, will get to them in the AM.

Ammonite

otsar says: December 7, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Ammonite, What do you think might be responsible for the 0.16C/decade temperature rise?
Hi otsar. Rising GHG concentrations, but without starting an endless rehash of every other possible mechanism, my intention is to make people aware that temperature continues to rise. Years 2009 and 2010 are the highest in the Stefan and Ramstorf series, well above 1998 when the super-El-Nino is factored out. Many skeptics are essentially betting against the identified trend. The Climate Depot article eludes to this.
Did you read the RealClimate summary? What do you make of it?

Ammonite

Typo: “Stefan and Ramstorf” should read “Foster and Rahmstorf” in my last post.

davidmhoffer

otsar says:
December 7, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Ammonite,
What do you think might be responsible for the 0.16C/decade temperature rise?>>>
Well ain’t that cute. A pair of trolls! One posts a link to an article that is a rehash of rehash of rehashed cherry picking, and poof! here’s another troll responding to the first troll with a casual, what do you think is responsible for the temp rise, accepting it at face value and asking the question as if it was casual conversation so that the first troll can respond:
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Hi otsar. Rising GHG concentrations, but without starting an endless rehash of every other possible mechanism, my intention is to make people aware that temperature continues to rise. Years 2009 and 2010 are the highest in the Stefan and Ramstorf series, well above 1998 when the super-El-Nino is factored out. Many skeptics are essentially betting against the identified trend. The Climate Depot article eludes to this.
Did you read the RealClimate summary? What do you make of it?
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Really? I mean REALLY? How long did it take you two to come up with this charade? Oh yes, and there’s another nice comment with a set up to generate yet another question about the hottest years…well once you taske 1998 out because well, it was hotter to it doesn’t count…and we cut the graph out before that temp bubble in the 1930 to 1945 rage that used to be hotter until GISS “adjusted it” then there was the Medieval Warming period which was supposedly warmer, but on regionaslly…of course regionally being Greenland, Canada, Chile, Egypt, China, New Zealand, Russa, Finland, the Unite States…you know…regional…

Ammonite

davidmhoffer says: December 7, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Set/Troll Baiting = On: …despite CO2 being the highest EVER …where’s the warming?
Hi DMH. It is refreshing to know you have labelled your statement above as “bait”. Unfortunately many skeptical commentaries miss the point that warming is occuring in line with the central tenets of AGW.
Set/Invitation-for-Genuine-Skeptics = On:
For those who wish to read http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/12/global-temperature-news/ warming is clear and consistent.

davidmhoffer

Ammonite;
Set/Invitation-for-Genuine-Skeptics = On:
For those who wish to read http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/12/global-temperature-news/ warming is clear and consistent.>>>
Followed the first time you posted the link, summarize a response explaining how devoid of meaning the article is and why, and you response is…to post it again. Wow, just say the same thing over and over again and that will prove it for sure.

Sorry Marc, Methane is not an influence on climate. It seems you have accepted nonsense from the IPCC without checking the truth. Look at my post here http://cementafriend.wordpress.com/ and the comments which contain further explanation.
Also, you should ask why Trenberth has not withdrawn his Global Heat Balance papers when he has admitted that the radiation “window” is 66W/m2 and not 40W/m2 as in his papers. Basically, Trenberth and all the so-called climate scientists have no understanding of the basic (engineering) science -heat & mass transfer, fluid dynamics, reaction kinetics and thermodynamics which is necessary to assess atmospheric changes (ie weather and climate)

Al Gored

Short (3:46), brutal, funny and classic commentary by the (Canadian) CBC’s Rex Murphy on Durban, Tutu, green extortion, China good-Canada bad and all that:
http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/The_National/Rex_Murphy/1275870718/ID=2172735930

rk

it seems to me that dancing on the grave of the AGW movement may be a little premature. First, this is a machine, as amply demonstrated by the e-mails…and political machines have inertia. Second, the science is just a proxy for what liberals have wanted for decades, command and control systems based on some sad Malthusian theory. There are many other ways of continuing the movement. Sure, throw science under the bus…you still have energy independence, dirty fossil fuels, world wide pollution, the gross inequities wealth and energy consumption worldwide…etc. etc. etc.

Steve C

Old woman of the north says (December 7, 2011 at 7:45 pm):

The Australian public broadcasting corporation ABC is ramping up the stories of warming in every way possible at the moment in support of our idiot goverment …

OWotN, count yourself lucky you don’t have to listen to or watch the “objective, impartial (ho ho) BBC”. Not only did we get David Attenborough’s Special Global Warming Propaganda Edition of his ‘Frozen Planet’ series last night, on Monday afternoon they even managed to lever a chunk of AGW propaganda into a programme about genies, which you might reasonably have expected just to be a harmless, Christmas-pantomime-oriented item for the kids. Plus, come to that, most of their other output. Truly, Marc Morano is not the only one who’s “overzealous”.
A (very) slight positive coming out of their current assault is that even people with no particular interest in climate, or even science, have started asking questions about the Beeb’s full-on brainwashing. When they mention it to me, I generally just show them a few graphs of measurements, give them a few internet links (starting with WUWT), and they go away a little more enlightened and a lot less inclined to trust the media.