The CRU crew says: "what we really meant was…"

In all the hubub last week, I missed this press release from the University of East Anglia. In it, they try to explain away some of the first highlighted email phrases. But we’ve all moved well beyond those now. The rebuttals seems almost comical now in light of the deeper context discovered since then.

From http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/CRUstatements/rebuttalsandcorrections/phrasesexplained

Cherry-picked phrases explained

Wed, 23 Nov 2011

Professor Phil Jones, and his colleagues, explain the context of some of the phrases cherry-picked from the thousands of emails (1995-2009) posted on the web on November 22, 2011.

Because of the volume of messages, this is inevitably a small selection that have been most quoted. Professor Jones stresses the importance of reading each quote in the context of the whole email trails – which have also been posted online.

Phil Jones:

Email 3062: “We don’t really want the bullshit and optimistic stuff that Michael has written […] We’ll have to cut out some of his stuff.”

What has been cut out of this quote is the explanation that we wanted the science to reflect the limits of scientific knowledge ‘warts and all’: “We don’t really want the bullshit and optimistic stuff that Michael has written that sounds as though it could have been written by a coral person 25 years ago. We’ll have to cut out some of his stuff. What we want is good honest stuff, warts and all, dubious dating, interpretation marginally better etc.”

Incidentally, this refers to Michael Schulz and not Michael Mann as bloggers appear to believe.

Email 2775: “I too don’t see why the schemes should be symmetrical. The temperature ones certainly will not as we’re choosing the periods to show the warming.”

The full email exchange reveals that we were choosing colours for a chart covering periods that showed warming. The periods chosen were 1901 to 2005 (the long record) and 1979 to 2005 (the satellite record).

Email 0714: “Getting people we know and trust [into IPCC] is vital – hence my comment about the tornadoes group.”

This was related to the selection of contributing authors, not IPCC-appointed chapter authors over which I have no influence. It means scientists we could trust to write succinct and clear text.

Email 1788: “There shouldn’t be someone else at UEA with different views [from “recent extreme weather is due to global warming”] – at least not a climatologist.”

This was in response to a request from a TV programme (via the university press office) which wanted to find two climatologists from UEA with differing views to debate on air. It was my view that I doubted if we could find anyone of that opposing view among my colleagues.

Email 0896: “I think the urban-related warming should be smaller than this, but I can’t think of a good way to argue this. I am hopeful of finding something in the data that makes by their Figure 3.”

These were discussions between me and two Chinese scientists and they were resolved, as evidenced by the paper in Journal of Geophysical Research. It was about confusion over different regions of China.

Email 4443: “Basic problem is that all models are wrong – not got enough middle and low level clouds.”

This is a discussion that referred to climate models of the late 1990s vintage. These issues were well-known and they have improved in more recent modelling. This related to model differences in development of a multi-model average for the future. The work was not published in the peer-reviewed literature.

Email 2440: “I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process”

At the end of the IPCC process, chapters, formal comments and responses are all published and that is the appropriate place for this information. It is important that scientists should be allowed free and frank discussion during the writing process. I might also point out that I decided not to take part in AR5 because of the time commitment it requires. .

Email 1577: “Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden. I’ve discussed this with the main funder…in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.”

‘Hidden’ refers here to some of the work on data collection and management. This is a common issue in some areas of climate research and refers to issues of an operational nature and research aspects. An obvious example is updating earlier data sets within a new project. Most funders are fully aware that this is common practice.

Email 1897: “Do I understand it correctly – if he doesn’t pay the £10 we don’t have to respond? With the earlier FOI requests re David Holland, I wasted a part of a day deleting numerous emails and exchanges with almost all the skeptics. So I have virtually nothing. I even deleted the email that I inadvertently sent.”

This relates to a request from Steve McIntyre made under the Data Protection Act for any personal data held about him. Following a previous experience with FoI, I had adopted a more judicious approach to retention of emails that I no longer needed. I had deleted old exchanges with sceptics I had prior to 2005. I was saying that I probably no longer had any emails relating to Mr McIntyre, a prominent sceptic.

The emails referred to were unrelated to any prior request from Mr Holland. Let me say again that I have never knowingly deleted any material subject to a current FoI request and this email should not be read in that way.

Keith Briffa:

Email 2009: “I find myself in the strange position of being very skeptical of the quality of all present reconstructions, yet sounding like a pro greenhouse zealot here!”

In email 2009, I am trying to reinforce the request to my co-author to provide a strongly critical review of the draft text. I believed that I had taken account of the considerable uncertainties in the evidence when producing the draft and still came to the conclusion that the late 20th century was unusually warm. I wanted to know whether he thought that this assessment was entirely valid. I would add that I was and still am acutely aware of the shortcomings of the palaeoclimate evidence but the conclusions of chapter 6 of the 2007 IPCC Fourth Assessment Report were arrived at after taking these into account, as is made clear by the section on ‘Key Uncertainties” (p. 483).

Tim Osborn (an author of the 2007 palaeoclimate chapter):

Email 4923:

The 2007 IPCC report conclusions did not weaken the 2001 IPCC report conclusions. The 2007 IPCC report said this (page 436): “The TAR [2001 report] pointed to the ‘exceptional warmth of the late 20th century, relative to the past 1,000 years’. Subsequent evidence has strengthened this conclusion.

Actually, if you refer to email 4923 itself, it says: “Temperatures during the last two decades of the 20th century were probably the warmest of the last millennium.” Note the word ‘PROBABLY’. Neither the 2001 (Third Assessment Report) nor the 2007 (Fourth Assessment Report) by the IPCC stated that these decades WERE the warmest of the millennium. Both used less certain language, acknowledging that prior to the period with instrumental temperatures from thermometers things are much less certain (in IPCC parlance “likely” meant “with a probability above 66%”). The crux of the question is whether the 2007 report backtracked or watered down the 2001 report’s conclusions.

2001 TAR (page 102): “the 1990s are likely to have been the warmest decade of the millennium in the Northern Hemisphere and 1998 is likely to have been the warmest year”.

2007 AR4 (page 436): “The TAR [2001 report] pointed to the ‘exceptional warmth of the late 20th century, relative to the past 1,000 years’. Subsequent evidence has strengthened this conclusion. It is very likely that average Northern Hemisphere temperatures during the second half of the 20th century were higher than for any other 50-year period in the last 500 years. It is also likely that this 50-year period was the warmest Northern Hemisphere period in the last 1.3 kyr, and that this warmth was more widespread than during any other 50-year period in the last 1.3 kyr.”

So, the 2007 report considers that subsequent evidence has strengthened the 2001 report conclusions. But neither report referred explicitly to the last two decades of the 1900s: TAR (2001) talked about just one decade, the 1990s. AR4 (2007) talked about 50-year periods.

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richard verney
November 29, 2011 9:38 am

@TerryS says:
November 29, 2011 at 9:04 am
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Obviously at least up until the leaker/hacker (however the person/corporation should be described) is caught, matters are out of the UEA’s hand. After Climategate I, it may not have been clear how many emails have been compromised. Given that release, and the time that has since elapsed it may be that in October 2011, the UEA considered that it had little further to fear and that matters could be safe just simply left to chance,
However, given Climategate II and the threat of the encrypted further file, I do not consider that such a laissez faire approach can be justified unless there is nothing of substance in the encrypted file. One can now expect that that file will at some future date find its way into the public domain (either because the leaker/hacker provided the code or because some 3rd party hacker gets lucky with finding the code) and the UEA needs to be prepared for that eventuality. It would be very silly to say something now in late November/early December 2011 which is later contradicted by the release of the encrypted file especially if what is said is patently absurd or dishonest.
Who knows the encrypted file might not even be the end of matters There may yet be an even further cache of emails etc yet to be released.
The UEA has lost a lot of credibility over this whole affair. It would be prudent for it to plan for the worse so as to limit further humiliation.

Werner Brozek
November 29, 2011 9:51 am

The following is interesting, titled “How we know they know they are lying”
See http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/lying.htm

Sean Peake
November 29, 2011 10:04 am

What I meant was…

crosspatch
November 29, 2011 10:42 am

Apparently in climate science you have buzzwords and you have “fudge words”: Briffa in 0016.txt

Peck, I have considered your text on the regional section – and you will see that I have
edited out some relating to future (and association between drought and SSTs) . I feel
strongly that you are venturing into “observational” territory and speculation beyond what
we should say. I have also amended the bullet points to reflect this. YOU ARE THE ULTIMATE
ARBITERS and it is up to you if you wish to re-insert , but I will give you a continuing
argument later about our overstepping the “paleo” boundary. Note also that the bullet on
European summer 2004 has bee altered to reflect what was a last minute , one-sentence ,
insertion in the first paragraph regarding Jurg Lutterbacher’s Science paper – as there was
no mention of it otherwise. We had to remove the reference to “700 years in France” as I am
not sure what this is , and it is not in the text anyway. The use of “likely” , “very
likely” and my additional fudge word “unusual” are all carefully chosen where used.

Tim has been a rock in the last minute rush here – not only doing the Figures , but also
helping with the text. I am really grateful to him. He has sent the text , with some
comments, and highlighted references, that need attention. If Oyvind can identify
references and handle these problems with Endnote , we are also really grateful.

crosspatch
November 29, 2011 10:49 am

And another from the Keith Briffa’s “Fudge Factory” 0375.txt

The Climate Dynamics 7 reconstruction contains a fudge by Briffa et al, described as follows:
The density chronology shows a low-frequency decline over the last century which appears anomalous in comparison with both the TRW data and the instrumental data over the 19^th and 20^th centuries. These facts suggest that the density-coefficients in the regression equation may be biased as would be the case if the density decline were not climate related (CO2 increases and/or the potential effects of increasing nitrogen input from remote sources may be implicated here.[increasing nitrogen input from remote sources == ruminant poop? –Crosspatch] ) &The residual MXD data (actual estimated) are plotted in Fig. 7. A systematic decline is apparent after 1750. By fitting a straight line through these residuals (1750-1980) and adding the straight-line values (with the4 sign reversed) to the RCS density curve, the anomalous post-1750 decline was removed. This corrected RCS curve was then used along with the RCS ring-width curve in a final reconstruction of the April-August temperatures.
This hardly seems like justifiable statistical procedure.Without the fudge, the “reconstruction” shows declining temperatures in the 20th century. A very similar decline in residuals occurs from 1100 to 1250 and one wonders whether a similar adjustment would be allowable then.

Richard G
November 29, 2011 10:58 am

Gary Mount says:
November 29, 2011 at 8:15 am
JeffC says:
November 29, 2011 at 7:07 am
My bet is that the password protected file will decimate these excuses …
Decimate means to cut by 10%. I think it will be worse than that. Or am I being to pedantic?

Would you settle for ‘extirpate’?

old44
November 29, 2011 11:04 am

We have one climatologist who cannot use exel and another in Email 1778 who would fail year 7 of english comprehension.

November 29, 2011 11:08 am

Phil Jones’ press release has been very effective at stifling debate. Many journalists read his response which was very fast, and then decided they knew everything they needed to know about Climategate 2, and move on to read something more interesting. Unfortunately for Phil Jones the climategate 2’s emails have contained several hidden narratives, and as various interested parties have joined the bits together they have begun to publish stories that are compelling evidence of serious wrong-doing by “the team”.
Now the scandal is entering a new phase. Jones successfully stifled debate, but the debate is hotting up on sceptic blogs, and the lists of the team’s wrong-doings are getting longer and well documented. The question is; will what has been discovered by sceptics over the last few days be fairly reported, or has Phil Jones ploy of getting his word in first provided sufficient excuses that the press will simply ignore us?
Personally I think it is impossible for the team, and the UEA, to ignore Willis’ letter to Phil Jones where Jones is publically called out as being “a serial liar” and incompetent record keeper who has wilfully skewed the presentation of the case for CAGW. I think it is impossible for the BBC to leave accusations of institutional bias in favour of alarmist presentation from Phil Jones and his team. And then there are the copious new stories of attempts to sack editors and hiring private detectives etc.
I also think that scientists from fields outside climatology (and inside) cannot simply sit on the fence forever, because this scandal is eating away at the public’s perception of science.
BUT the ball is firmly in our court. We could leave the evidence on blogs like this one, and expect journalists like Dellingpole and Booker to get it out to the public. And it will eventually filter out, and Jones and Mann will eventually be held accountable.
I have written on other threads that I believe the process could be speeded up if a semi-retired/retired scientist, or small team of activist scientists, rewrote the news as it arrives on this and other sceptic blogs, in a simplified form for the lay reader. My suggestion is that the writing should be in a form that could be used by journalists to cut and paste stories into their newspapers. And these lay-edited stories should be emailed as press releases to lists of journalists. I think such a service would be simple to put together and have a very big impact on how fast and well the stories arriving on blogs like WUWT were reported in the media.
The second suggestion I have is that an international petition be set up for scientists to sign. The petition should have wording along the lines of “We the undersigned scientist do not believe that there is a consensus that recent warming is mostly caused by greenhouse gases, and carbon in particular”. The petition might have a few words about distancing themselves from the wrongdoing by the Team. This petition should be very public and be presented so that the public can see the qualification and status of the scientists who sign it. .Scientists should be free to register or delete their names. Such a petition is now due because scientists have to stand up for the integrity of their profession.
I would love to be involved because it would be such rewarding work, but I am an outsider, and artist who runs a business that will struggle to survive the impending collapse of the Eurozone. There is so much intelligence, fair and balanced opinion, politeness and humour on this blog it is obvious to me there are a lot of you who could set this up and run it in their sleep. It is a matter of one of you deciding to start, everything flows from that first step into the unknown. Anthony cannot have guessed where his blog would take him, now it is your turn?

Manfred
November 29, 2011 11:25 am

you must be Geoffrey Boulton and never ever dig further to think these are good excuses.

November 29, 2011 11:37 am

One of the many things Climategate 2 tells us is that Phil Jones has an unnatural relationship with the BBC.

November 29, 2011 11:53 am

“Honey I shrunk the kids…”
Well this was taken out of context. I was referring to having shrunk the kid’s underwear and not my wife’s.

Adam Gallon
November 29, 2011 12:26 pm

“Getting into debates with people is something I’d like to avoid.
Cheers
Phil”
25 August 2009 12:03
http://www.ecowho.com/foia.php?file=0767.txt&search=deniers
I wonder what the official translation of this little gem is?

John Trigge
November 29, 2011 1:12 pm

The ‘context’ of these emails can only be revealed when the likes of Willis (to whom I dips me lid) provide backgrounds and timelines and fit the released emails into a fuller story.
Jones et al are attempting to justify small snippets of the whole, placing them further out of context which exacerbates the confusion.
The believers in “the cause” need to explain the full trail of emails; that is the only way to reveal context.

petermue
November 29, 2011 1:12 pm

If Phil Jones is able to exactly remember the circumstances of each commented files, why isn’t he able to remember where he “lost” the requested FoI temperature data files?
Pretended amnesia?

November 29, 2011 1:19 pm

I have to agree. When looked an individually, some of the statements made in these emails are alarming, and often shocking.
When looked at in their full context, they are utterly damning of both the behaviour of the self-styled ‘Hockey Team’ and their crusade to demonise CO2.

Chris B
November 29, 2011 1:30 pm

“There shouldn’t be someone else at UEA with different views [from “recent extreme weather is due to global warming”] – at least not a climatologist.”…”It was my view that I doubted if we could find anyone of that opposing view among my colleagues.”
Ha ha! Gold! I very much doubt anyone ‘could’ believe this particular whopper, and they definitely ‘shouldn’t’!

November 29, 2011 1:37 pm

‘This was in response to a request from a TV programme (via the university press office) which wanted to find two climatologists from UEA with differing views to debate on air. It was my view that I doubted if we could find anyone of that opposing view among my colleagues’
So there’s no climatologist at UEA capable of original thought. Why does that not surprise me?

November 29, 2011 2:27 pm

SPIN SPIN SPIN….I couldn’t even finish reading this crap. Phil never even answered this one at all:
“Email 2440: “I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process”

At the end of the IPCC process, chapters, formal comments and responses are all published and that is the appropriate place for this information. It is important that scientists should be allowed free and frank discussion during the writing process. I might also point out that I decided not to take part in AR5 because of the time commitment it requires. .”

November 29, 2011 2:37 pm

Reminds me somewhat of the Vietnam era satirical interview between the F4 pilot and a newspaper guy, with the Wing Information Officer interpreting the Captain’s remarks. “what the Captain really means is……”

Merovign
November 29, 2011 2:40 pm

“But the dog really did take the cookie jar off the top of the fridge. Or maybe it was a burglar. It was on TV, a burglar was stealing cookies. Or a ninja.”

November 29, 2011 2:46 pm

@Werner Brozek says:
November 29, 2011 at 9:51 am
The following is interesting, titled “How we know they know they are lying”
See http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/lying.htm
Nicely written!

Brent Hargreaves
November 29, 2011 3:21 pm

So, people, which phrases in Climategate II are the most eyecatching?
Anything as classy as “hide the decline” or “travesty”?

Michael Gersh
November 29, 2011 3:44 pm

These guys should retain counsel, and fast. Any competent attorney would tell them to shut up. They might well have civil or criminal exposure here, and nothing they say now can help them get out of that. What cocky bastards they are in the face of such exposure.

wayne
November 29, 2011 4:00 pm

Werner Brozek says:
November 29, 2011 at 9:51 am
The following is interesting, titled “How we know they know they are lying”
See http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/lying.htm

What a good article! And written in 2009?
Wish I had stumbled upon it then.

Steve from Rockwood
November 29, 2011 5:15 pm

Gary Mount says:
November 29, 2011 at 8:15 am
JeffC says:
November 29, 2011 at 7:07 am
My bet is that the password protected file will decimate these excuses …
Decimate means to cut by 10%. I think it will be worse than that. Or am I being to pedantic?
—————————————————————–
Gary,
Didn’t the Romans decimate their army as a form of discipline? This meant dividing the ranks into units of ten and electing one to be killed at the hands of the other nine. An interesting prospect wouldn’t you say? I think devastate would have worked better anyway…

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