
Climategate 2.0 email 4894.txt shows just what Alex Kirby of BBC thinks of climate skeptics as he conveys it to Dr. Phil Jones. Clearly, there an incestuous relationship between climate science and the BBC.
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date: Wed Dec 8 08:25:30 2004
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.xx.xx>
subject: RE: something on new online.
to: “Alex Kirby” <alex.kirby@bbc.xxx.xx>
At 17:27 07/12/2004, you wrote:
Yes, glad you stopped this — I was sent it too, and decided to
spike it without more ado as pure stream-of-consciousness rubbish. I can
well understand your unhappiness at our running the other piece. But we
are constantly being savaged by the loonies for not giving them any
coverage at all, especially as you say with the COP in the offing, and
being the objective impartial (ho ho) BBC that we are, there is an
expectation in some quarters that we will every now and then let them
say something. I hope though that the weight of our coverage makes it
clear that we think they are talking through their hats.
—–Original Message—–
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit
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h/t to WUWT reader “varco”. If I lived in the UK, I’d stop paying my BBC TV and radio license.
Here’s the Wikipedia bio on Kirby:
Alex Kirby is a British journalist, specializing in environmental issues. He worked in various capacities at the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for nearly 20 years. From 1987 to 1996, he was the environmental correspondent for BBC News, in radio and television. He left the BBC in 1998 to work as a freelance journalist. He also provides media skills training to companies, universities and NGOs. He is also currently the environmental correspondent for BBC News Online, and hosted BBC Radio 4‘s environment series, Costing the Earth. He has no formal scientific training.
He writes a regular column for BBC Wildlife magazine.
“If I lived in the UK, I’d stop paying my BBC TV and radio license.”
Stopped paying AlJaBeeba telly tax years ago.
Fyi, here is the AlJaBeeba CG2 denial piece by that airhead Susan Watts from a couple of nights ago.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy9Ic4q4lJc&w=405&h=320]
If you are British, there’s no need to have a TV licence, even if you have a television. TV Licensing have no official powers beyond those of any other company trying to sell their wares. If you ignore their junk mail (correspondence), close the door or better yet don’t answer it to their salesmen (the Orwellian titled “enforcement officers”), they can do nothing. Only if you’re foolish enough to let one of them into your house and sign a confession for him can they prosecute you – otherwise, all you get is a threatening letter every month, so full of “if”s and “may”s as to be comical. Detector vans are an urban myth that have never been used as evidence in a court of law. Check out bbcresistance.com for further details – please don’t assume you have to subsidise the dreadful bias of the BBC.
Wow, englsnd really truly sucks. From cameras on every street to tv license? Yuk@ur momisugly i rrally never want to step foot in that country. Very sad.
Just to be sure, you get fined up to £1000 for not having a license even if you never watch the drivel from the bbc. However, you can continually refuse to pay the fines, which by all accounts would most likely result in imprisonment.
Thus, while it may be inaccurate to say that the bbc enforces a prison sentence for non-payment of the fee, it is a legal possibility that incarceration could result from a series of failures to pay the requisite fines for not having purchased a license in the first place!
I say scramble the transmission for those that do not wish to pay the tax (fee) on the set top. Then taxpayers do not have to suffer the ignominy of being forced to pay – under the draconian threat of a fine and legal escalation for non-compliance – for people to promote political views and alignments they do not vote for or are partisan to.
And he’s the one who gets to say: “Lassen Sie mich Ihre Papiere sehen!”
love it!!!!
Hehe. You know what would really give Markey a stroke? Give this courageous heroic whistleblower the Congressional Medal Of Honor. We could do it now in absentia if he/she chooses to remain anonymous. Markey would be apoplectic as would be many others.
Now if we could get the Speaker of the House to pry himself away from golfing with the White House Occupier in Chief we can get something going!
Sorry, but the e-mail numbers from that long list I posted were deleted (I put them in chevron brackets).
They were, in order:
{email – 1635} FYI
{email – 4184} Feb 7-8
{email – 4195} Fellow, Seasonal to Decadal Forecasting
{email – 4370} BBC Focus magazine
{email – 4663} Global Environmental Change Projects
{email – 2317} Paleo data
{email – 2509} BBC U-turn on climate
{email – 2496} sceptics
{email – 2747} BBC Documentary
{email – 1885} More nonsense on climate change
{email – 3499} Mann and Jones (2003)
{email – 0112} IPCC and sea level rise, hi-res paleodata,
{email – 0665} Wiltshire County Council
{email – 5215} A couple of things
{email – 1683} Final thoughts
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jason says:
November 24, 2011 at 12:50 pm
“I have to agree with another commenter. Nobody knows or cares about C2.0.”
It made The Drudge Report. Millions of people therefore know about it from that source alone. Hundreds of small newspapers mentioned it. It was reported in the Wall Street Journal. Time magazine’s website. Fox News. Senator Inhofe mentioned it. It’s making its way around and you can be sure everyone at the Durban conference knows about it.
But speaking of Durban, there are probably fewer people who know or care about Durban than know or care about Climategate 2. The whole climate change ’cause’ is falling apart at the seams and has been falling apart bit by bit for several years after it became apparent that despite no slowdown in carbon emissions the earth stopped getting warmer 10 years ago and there’s no sign of any negative effects from global warming and lots of positives. Believe it or not the general population actually preferred their increasingly mild winters and farmers prefer their increasingly longer growing seasons. I always suspected that climate would be the death of AGW because the climate just isn’t living up to the alarmist’s predictions and that’s exactly what’s happened.
t~om s says:
November 25, 2011 at 5:54 am
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It is very sad since England truly use to be the land of the free, but with recent developments it is becoming ever closer to being a police state. .
The recent email release casts the BBC in a very poor light.
It is one thing to adopt the stance when reporting events which favours the consensus position over the minority view and restricting air time given to the minority view. Such partiality does not promote investigative journalism but arguably may be permissible as a matter of editorial policy. For example, in politics more air time is given to the main political parties and less to minority parties and this appears to be accepted practice.
However, the emails released give the impression that the BBC has gone a stage further and has actually become a green activist. That is quite a different matter and their charter does not permit them to be activists.
OK this is how you stop paying your TV Licence.
I have done it.
1. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS.
2. You DO NOT need a licence to use a TV to watch recordings, DVDs, play video cam footage, play XBox etc. You ONLY legally require a licence to watch LIVE TV programmes.
3. You DO NOT have ANY obligation to explain your lack of a licence to the BBC, just as you do not have to explain why you haven’t got a fishing licence.
4. You are under NO obligation to speak to anyone from the TV licence enforcement company, they are just a branch of the BBC & have no power to interview you OR search your home.
5. DON’T TALK TO THEM, REPLY TO THEIR RED LETTERS OR SIGN ANYTHING. THIS IS WHAT THEY USE TO CONVICT YOU.
6. No prosecution has ever used TV detector van technology to secure a prosecution. EVER. The BBC has refused to disclose what technology they have, how it works & what it is capable of detecting.
7. That’s it. At first, you will receive RED letters but if you do not communicate with them, they only way they can prosecute is by catching you red handed watching LIVE TV feeds.
I stopped paying about 9 months ago. I refuse to pay these corporate media whores & war criminals money to pay for their propaganda.
There is no risk or comeback.
Obviously you are responsible for your own actions & whether or not you decide to break the law.
I no longer watch live feed TV, I use the internet.
REBlade says:
November 25, 2011 at 7:53 am:
The real worry of, “Edward Markey, a Democrat congressman from Massachusetts ,” is that his name might appear in the 20,000 emails held “in reserve.”
Google for “Ho Ho BBC”
I suggest that everybody refer to the BBC in future as “Ho Ho BBC”.
They must be made to pay for being the worst alarmist media organisation.
Quote jayman
“They must be made to pay for being the worst alarmist media organisation.”
…& what better way than depriving them of revenue?
NOT paying your TV Licence fee is a moral act, particularly when you consider [SNIP: these are all topics Anthony has stated he doesn’t want discussed at WUWT. Please check the site policy. -REP] which is proven beyond doubt.
It’s subverting of science & obfuscating of truth is truly vile.
A weapon of mass destruction…
A weapon of mass deception…
Er….Py
“I think everyone is taking this email out of context. As you can see it was sent in the month of December and Alex was doing his best Santa impersonation ready for the Christmas party whilst confirming that the BBC is an unbiased institution.”
I think you need to read it in context.
“But we are constantly being savaged by the loonies for not giving them any
coverage at all, especially as you say with the COP in the offing, and
being the objective impartial (ho ho) BBC that we are, there is an
expectation in some quarters that we will every now and then let them
say something. I hope though that the weight of our coverage makes it
clear that we think they are talking through their hats.”
“Loonies” “Every now and then let them say something” “Weight of coverage….” …. need I go on?
Father Christmas is definitely out of context …. unless he’s been complaining that global warming is affecting his reindeers’ migration!!!
Watch the video of Alex Kirby’s speech and listen to the contempt in his voice for the BBC who spent too much money sending correspondents to the Chilean earthquake disaster and now can only send one to the next Climate Change talk-fest in Cancun. The BBC obviously has to get it’s priorities right!
Try 3757.txt for shameless partisan fawning. Absolute filth!
date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:37:59 +010 ???
from: ???@open.ac.uk
subject: Rio+10 ???and the media
to: ???@uea.ac.uk
Dear Mike
We are writing to some alumni of the University of Cambridge Media and
Environment seminars gathering ideas for the BBC’s coverage of the Rio+1 ???
Earth Summit in a year’s time. Before the Rio summit, the BBC held the One
World festival, which included some memorable broadcasting – particularly a
feature drama on refugees. Some broadcasting is already in the pipeline that
will relate to the themes of Rio+ 10, but this is an open opportunity for
you to put forward ideas that will be collated and circulated amongst
relevant BBC decision-makers.
* What should the BBC be doing this time in terms of news, current
affairs, drama, documentaries, game shows, music etc?
* How can the BBC convey the theme of sustainable development to
viewers and listeners who have probably seen all the issues raised before?
* Is there any scope for a global broadcasting initiative?
* What are the strongest themes and specific issues that should appear
in the media in the months and years following the conference?
If you have thoughts, please send your reply both to this email and copy to
???@aol.com. We will also draw on the information gathered in planning
a new three year programme of media seminars.
Best wishes
Joe and Roger
Joe Smith and Roger Harrabin
University of Cambridge Media and Environment Programme
As I recall, Michael Moore (the celebrated chronicler of Detroit’s tragic decline) produced a documentary series co-produced on either side of the Atlantic a few years ago. In the US, an episode about the death penalty in America was not broadcast in the USA, whilst in the UK a polemic about the imprisonment of unmarried mothers on state benefits for non-payment of TV licence was not shown.
On the subject of BBC bias, check out email # 1683 from BBC Journalist to Keith Briffa:
” Hi Keith, Good to talk to you this morning. Just a few thoughts to reiterate what we’re hoping to get out of filming tomorrow.
1) Your interview appears at a crucial point in the film. Up until now our presenter (Paul Rose, he’ll be there tomorrow) has followed two conflicting thoughts. On the one hand he’s understood that the world is currently getting warmer. But on the other he’s discovered lots of historical stories (the Bronze Age, the MWP, the LIA) which tell him that climate changes naturally all the time. In trying to resolve this paradox he’s come across this thing called the hockey stick curve, and he’s come to you to explain it to him.
2) Your essential job is to “prove” to Paul that what we’re experiencing now is NOT just another of those natural fluctuations we’ve seen in the past. The hockey stick curve is a crucial piece of evidence because it shows how abnormal the present period is – the present warming is unprecedented in speed and amplitude, something like that. This is a very big moment in the film when Paul is finally convinced of the reality of man made global warming. […] Hopefully this makes it clear what I’m trying to achieve. Look forward to tomorrow. All best Jonathan
Jonathan Renouf Series Producer Science Department”
Email # 1683 reads like a script for a bad propaganda film. Made with tax money.
Congrats to the Brits on having such a fair and objective public broadcasting corporation, full of honest, eager, investigative journalists of integrity to let you know what is going on. Tax money well spent! /sarc off
BBC has been completely infiltrated by WWF. Until lobbying is banned in Parliament their biased reporting will continue. This last week Susan Watts (BBS `science correspondent`) on `Newsnight` and Chris Huhne (member of the UK cabinet) on `Questiontime` revealed their dire and abject ignorance of the issues and in particular of research into the history of climate change over the last 2,000 years and, of course, long long before that. What can be done to show how biased and basically very very wrong these people are? They have no relevant qualifications (Watts may claim so but she is so out of touch as to be laughable) and it can only be hoped that the great British public will eventually see through their foolish statements, especially Huhne who was telling is what electricity prices would be in 2019 as the result of his green policies. `You can fool some of the people…..` but with people like this spouting so much trash it cannot be for much longer.
As a UK citizen, I strongly resent being forced to subsidise a left-wing propaganda organisation. I would definitely vote to have the licence fee scrapped. Funnily enough, I’ll be posting a cheque for £145 next week. I may include a note stating that I object to being forced to pay for the Biased Broadcasting Corporation (also known as the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation).
Their bias also extends to the euro and the European Union. If the BBC had its way, we would have joined the euro, and now we would be facing the catastrophic breakup of our own currency. Probably the only good thing that Gordon Brown was to keep us out of the euro.
There’s a perfect example of the BBC’s bias. When the UK’s joining the euro was a real prospect ten years ago, the BBC showed a program called, if I remember correctly, ‘Referendum Street’. Almost unbelievably, the person conducting the ‘no’ campaign for the program was a europhile! A bit like asking Michael Mann to head the sceptic side at the Oxford Union Debate!
Chris
I live in the south of England. I have just written (pen and old-fashioned paper style) to the BBC informing them that I will no longer be paying my license fee as I no longer watch their programs.
Let’s see who comes knocking at my door!
Al Gored says:
November 24, 2011 at 1:41 pm
“I saw the relative silence on Climategate as a proxy for the AGW bias in media organizations, …”
Then it might also be worth noting the same kind of “impartiality” toward Ron Paul. Given that the Australian media are scared witless to even mention his name, and will only show his face in distance shots, it’s a fair bet that his policies are threatening to the NWO and this whole worldwide political scam.
What is it with this “Emporer” stuff? Pretty weird. Even sounds weird. It’s “Emperor”. Honest.