Guest post by Robert Bradley, Master Resource
I have been studying the global warming debate from a physical scientific and political economy basis for 20 years. And I remain amazed at how the energy/climate alarmists will not concede (are ‘in denial’) that the human influence on climate can be positive, not only negative, from an ecological and economic perspective.
The work of leading climate economist Robert Mendelsohn calculates net positive externalities for much of the world from anthropogenic warming at the bottom of the canonic IPCC temperature range. And climate scientist Gerald North of Texas A&M convinced me that the models would eventually get to a warming range of 20C, plus or minus 0.250C, for a doubling of atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gas in equilibrium. (Dr. North was my paid consultant back in my Enron days, tasked with helping me figure out just where the middle ground was in the contentious debate.)
Mendelsohn plus North: a net positive externality from manmade greenhouse gas emissions. And a win for fossil fuels even before getting to the political economy question of comparing ‘market failure’ against ‘government failure’ to evaluate the case for government intervention.
Now to the renewable energy debate online at The Economist magazine where I was invited to oppose the motion: “This house believes that subsidising renewable energy is a good way to wean the world off fossil fuels.”
In my opening statement, I argued that renewable energy was doomed by physics for reasons that were first comprehended by British economist W. S. Jevons in his 1865 classic, The Coal Question.
Noting the taxpayer and environmentalist backlash against wind and solar facilities, as well as the inability of intermittent energies to exist without fossil-fuel blending/firming, I found myself squarely back at the premise to the motion: that fossil fuels were bad.
With peak oil and peak gas waylaid by the shale revolution, and the statistics of less pollution alongside greater fossil-fuel usage, the question then got back to global warming (my rebuttal statement). My closing statement summed up my case for the increasing sustainability of fossil fuels, not only the failure of renewable energy.
Economist debate moderator, James Astill, is upset. After all, we should all know that the human influence on climate is severe and bad and government must do something! He complains:
In my previous offering, I confess I underestimated how relaxed our opposer, Robert Bradley, was about global warming. I thought he did not consider it a problem. It now seems he is rather in favour of it. “A moderately warmer and wetter world, natural or manmade,” Mr Bradley writes, “is arguably a better world.”
I said “moderate warming,” Sir. And I said “arguably,” Sir. Why is your world so black and white, and black in favor of energy statism? Given the public and political backlash against climate alarmism and forced energy transformation, and the very comments and voting cast in this forum, perhaps it is time to debate rather than assume.
Astill continues:
This shows how far Mr Bradley has strayed from the question in hand: concerning the desirability, or otherwise, of subsidising renewables as a means to stop the world burning fossil fuels. I do not blame him exactly. It stands to reason that no one untroubled by the prospect of global warming would bother himself with wonky, expensive renewables. But, alas, that does not describe this house. It assumes that a way to get the world off fossil fuels must be found.
Astill is missing the energy forest for the politically correct trees. Compared to dilute, intermittent, and environmentally invasive wind and solar power, fossil fuels are socially advantageous. And even assuming high climate sensitivity to GHG forcing, ‘market failure’ must be balanced with ‘analytical failure’ and with ‘government failure.’ No more assuming the problem, the solution, and perfect government implementation of the ‘solution.’ The era of magical energy postmodernism must end!
I invite readers of WUWT to visit, read, and vote. I like my case. As I conclude my final statement: “The best energy future belongs to the efficient and to the free.”
Realism and optimism, anyone?
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Jon- I am an Environmental Consultant and have been for 22 years. One can be an Environmentalist and still use common sense. Common sense and Science tells us that Global Warming is real, however Science combined with common sense tells us Man has little to do with it. One group you leave out is hunters. They care more about the “Natural” World as a group then almost anybody but yet are dismissed as neanderthals and no I don’t hunt. Man is an animal of the highest order, we evolved because of the Natural World not in-spite of it.
Once you get out of the major cities those of us in the country and I mean rural country know all about that which you speak. Your issue is with the city dwellers which actually make up a small portion of the Country as a whole.
Thanks Steve … I am a big game, small game and waterfowl hunter … I do not take pleasure in killing things but it puts nutritious healthy food on the table!
Robert,
Thanks for the tip.
The link goes to Google Books.
This “education” cannot be delivered within our current educational system. It would require that every individual spend some time (at least from planting to harvest), living and working on a farm. I have always thought that farm service should be a mandatory requirement for graduating from high school. It would also help with the labor shortage experienced by farmers that no longer produce 12 children. All people should be fully aware of the sources of life sustainability.
As a nature and environmental course, it would far exceed anything given in a classroom. GK
Steve Lindsey says:
November 18, 2011 at 5:49 am
…..Once you get out of the major cities those of us in the country and I mean rural country know all about that which you speak. Your issue is with the city dwellers which actually make up a small portion of the Country as a whole.
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Steve, I really wish you were correct. The city/suburb dwellers (super market predators) out number the rural dwellers by about 3 to 1 and this has allowed an unrealistic view of nature to grow to the point that people fear to touch a goat or a lamb or a horse and rush for the hand sanitizer. (Studies are showing farm kids have better immune systems and less allergies)
For the US 1990 Census:
urban population = 187,053,487,
[non urban] rural = 61,656,386.
The US Census uses two types of urban areas: Urbanized Areas (UAs) of 50,000 or more people and Urban Clusters (UCs) of at least 2,500 and less than 50,000 people. “Rural” encompasses all population, housing, and territory not included within an urban area. http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html
Jon,
Actually I called you a “Useful Innocent” In many ways we all are because the target is good hearted people who want to help. Cancer scams such as Cancer Society of America (as opposed to the real American Cancer Society) are a good example. I got sucker by them.
The fact that you are a target is no reflection on you, but on those who would use kindness and concern as a weapon to work ill. I went through the dissection above to show how to determine the hidden agenda of those who give us information.
BIOFUEL and SUSTAINABILITY
“Sustainability” by the way is a real hot button among some of us farmers because it is the concept used to push Agenda 21. We started out in 2005/6 ignorant, wondering why the USDA was trying to shove “Traceability” down our throats when it was not needed. Much research (thank you Gisela) tracked it back to the World Trade Organization and then to the UN, Agenda 21 and “Sustainability” After five to six years fighting the Government/Ag Cartel, you are going to get an automatic response if you use “Sustainability” along with “environment” and “population control”. Those are all used as the justification for why we are going to lose our farms, get million dollar fines and/or tossed in jail. The “Farm Wars” has been much more up front and personal than CAGW. It is not about a 10% increase in prices but losing your entire “life” Also the consequences to humanity are worse – corporate controlled famine. See: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-how-goldman-gambled-on-starvation-2016088.html
Broad picture: http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/william-engdahl/2011/06/29/getting-used-to-life-without-food-part-1
Derivatives Market Collusion: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/business/12advantage.html
Who’s who: http://www.scribd.com/doc/60473464/Food-4-Thought-Who-Controls-Our-Food
SUSTAINABILITY:
Senate 25 X 25 resolution (Sustainability): http://www.25×25.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=310&Itemid=56
The best “farmer” site is Gisela Swift’s NAISinfoCentral: http://xstatic99645.tripod.com/naisinfocentral/id31.html
Barbara Peterson’s FarmWars:
http://farmwars.info/?p=5280
Walter Jeffries
http://nonais.org/2010/12/19/sustainability/
The Henshaw Documents (2006) are well worth reading as it was the catalyst that made many farmers realize just how deep tin manure we were. http://nonais.org/index.php/2006/10/02/henshaw-documents/
The “Farm Wars” have been hidden much better than CAGW mainly because our allies were “captured” http://farmwars.info/?p=5032
YES, ANYONE CAN REPRINT OR OTHERWISE EMPLOY THIS ESSAY, AND WE WOULD LOVE SOME OF YOU ‘TALENTED AMATEURS’ TO POST AT WITH US at http://www.masterresource.org (if not, of course, at WUWT).
Thank you for the comments,
– Rob Bradley