Video analysis and scene replication suggests that Al Gore's Climate Reality Project fabricated their Climate 101 video "Simple Experiment"

UPDATE2 10/18/2011 – The experiment has been replicated several ways, see:

Replicating Al Gore’s Climate 101 video experiment shows that his “high school physics” could never work as advertised

UPDATE: New images added prove without a doubt the faked split screen. See below.

It has been over a week now since the Gore-a-thon aka “24 hours of climate reality”. The front page of the Climate Reality Project has changed from “live mode” to offering clips of video shown during the 24 hour presentation. Note the circled video on the front page below Mr. Gore. I’ve discovered that by watching carefully it reveals an “inconvenient truth” of the worst kind.

Analysis of this “Climate 101” video highlighted on Mr. Gore’s website is something I’ve been working on for the past week and a half. It has been carefully reviewed (with video graphics tools) and has been inspected by a number of science, engineering, and television professionals I’ve had review the video, my video captures, annotations, and writeup to be certain I have not missed anything or come to an erroneous conclusion. It also took me awhile to locate and get the items shipped to me to do the work I needed before I wrote this article. Now that I have them, and have done some simple replications to confirm my suspicions, I can write about them while presenting corroborating photographic evidence.

First, I wish to direct your attention to this video, produced by Al Gore’s Climate Reality Project titled “Climate 101”.  I direct your attention to the 1 minute mark, lasting through 1:20. I suggest you click on the little X-arrow icon to expand full screen of the right of the slider tool bar, since this video is in high-definition and the details of my concerns require that higher resolution to view them properly.

It is worth watching a couple of times to get fully familiar with the sequence.

I’ve been in television broadcasting for over 20 years, and I’m quite familiar with editing tricks, I think I spotted more than a few in the video.

There are five scenes that appear, each an edit in that 20 second span of video during which an experiment is set up which supposedly demonstrates that CO2 in a heated jar causes that jar to be warmer than a second heated jar with ambient air in it.

In that 20 second span, I looked for things that changed, indicating that it wasn’t done in a continuous shot. I found evidence that the scene was changed at least three times, suggesting multiple takes.

The giveaways were that I saw objects change in the scene, most notably the CO2 tank, which has three different rotation positions. See the video captures from the Climate 101 video below, with my annotations. Note the position of the safety valve (1) and the label (2) change (click images for HD resolution):

Climate 101 scene @1:01 –

Climate 101 scene @1:05 –

Climate 101 scene @1:09 –

(UPDATE 10:27AM : spotted by commenter “mkelly” – note the thermometers are reversed in the 1:05 video capture versus the 1:09 video capture – note the green card mark on the thermometer scale as explained further in the story) So clearly, this wasn’t done in one take. By itself, there’s nothing wrong with that, but it did make me wonder why for such a simple sequence (putting the tube in the jar) they had to have three separate edits.

Such a simple thing could surely have been accomplished in a single take. All they would have had to do was zoom the camera in/out as the actor did the work, then take the appropriate scenes from the single shot to the final cut. They could have done several continuous takes and chosen the best one, it just seemed odd they had to keep moving/rotating the bottle to do it. It made me wonder if the experiment maybe didn’t go so well and they had to keep trying it.

These scene discontinuities made me curious, and it made me look further to see what else might have been edited in such a way to reveal that what looks like a continuous flow of scenes…actually isn’t.

I’m glad I did.

Now I know there will be lots of arguments about whether this experiment is a valid test of CO2 greenhouse theory or not. It is deceptively simple, and it fits with the claims of it is “high school physics” made by Al Gore and others before and during the 24 hour Climate Reality Project. His specific claim was:

“The deniers claim that it’s some kind of hoax and that the global scientific community is lying to people,” he said. “It’s not a hoax, it’s high school physics.” – Al Gore in an interview with MNN 9/14/2011

Let’s put the arguments about applicability of the experiment aside for the moment, and just concentrate on what was presented in the experiment section of the video, because there is plenty to look at in the video with a skeptical eye.

One thing that caught my eye after I noticed the edits with the CO2 tank positions changing was the split screen scene with the thermometers side by side, one with temperature rising faster than the other. It is located starting at 1:10 in the video continuing to 1:17 it is the longest “continuous” scene in experiment section of the video, though we all know that thermometers don’t jump up in spurts like that.

I figured at first they just cut down a longer continuous scene, done with two cameras, so that it fit into the time allotted and then rotated from horizontal and edited them in split screen, which are tried and true techniques, and there’s nothing wrong with doing that.

But thanks to the fact that this was shot in HD video, and because I was able to expand the video to full resolution outside of the web page format bounding, I noticed something that gave me reason to doubt the veracity of this section of video. I suspected it had been faked, but it would take me some time and materials to prove it.

One thing that struck me was how clean the image of the two thermometers was. Remember this is an experiment where the two thermometers are placed inside two glass jars. A proper experimental procedure would be to film them while they are inside of the jars, experiencing the conditions of the experiment, in fact, they were presented just like that with a closeup at 1:02 in the video, you can actually read the thermometer scale:

Note this video capture at 1:02 looks quite different from the video at 1:17 showing the thermometers split screen. There are several differences:

1. Throughout the video from 1:00 to 1:20, the thermometers in the jar are shown horizontal, the split screen at 1:17 shows the thermometers vertical.

2. There’s a greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 which isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video at all.

3. The split screen thermometer scene has not a hint of the optical distortion seen at 1:02 in the video. Note that the thermometer scale is distorted by the glass, and if you look closely by expanding the video capture above to full resolution by clicking on it, you’ll see that the tick marks are distorted differently all along the scale. This is what you would expect from thick glass like the jar is made of.

I considered these possibilities for each point above:

1. That was editing to show the thermometers side by side, perfectly acceptable if the edit was done from combining two separate video streams filmed simultaneously on two cameras while the temperature was rising inside the jar. Cutting down the time is also acceptable, which would account for the “spurts”

2. They may have placed a paper or cardboard background behind the thermometers while filming in the jars to make the scales more visible and to remove visual clutter, but didn’t show it in the video. While using such backgrounds is understandable, not showing that you have done so is a bit of a no-no, but it isn’t a deal killer.

3. While I thought about it a lot, I couldn’t reconcile the glass caused optical distortion issue. Why was it missing from the split screen thermometer scene? I decided I couldn’t  answer the question without getting my hands on the objects and re-creating the optical situation with a camera.

That took some doing, because Al’s “high school physics” experiment didn’t come with a bill of materials and list of suppliers. So, in my spare time I started looking for the jars, the thermometers, and the globes so that I could exactly recreate the experiment scene.

I found them all, thanks to Google visual image search and Ebay.

Replicating the scene – materials:

Anchor Hocking Cookie Jar with Lid http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=187543

Geratherm Oral Thermometer Non-Mercury

http://www.pocketnurse.com/Geratherm-Oral-Thermometer-Non-Mercury/productinfo/06-74-5826/

Globe Coin Bank

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150661053386

It took a few days for everything to arrive from the three different suppliers, here they are all together on my desk at work, I actually bought two sets:

What I wanted to do was to recreate the closeup shot like we see in the video at 1:02 to see if I saw similar optical distortions, then see if there was any way that I could get a clear closeup view of the thermometer scale like we see in the split screen at 1:10-1:17.

My theory was that the thermometers aren’t actually in the jar when they were photographed for the split screen.

Checking for optical aberrations:

I used a piece of double-sided foam tape to affix the thermometer:

Here’s a closeup of the thermometer affixed to the globe. Note how clear and distortion free the scale is.

Here’s my attempts at photography of the thermometer inside the jar. I had a lot of trouble getting focused on the thermometer scale due to the autofocus mechanism being distracted by the glass which is in the foreground. Note that you can see the optical aberrations caused by the glass on the thermometer scale. The scale is not straight and the tick marks are also distorted.

Here’s another photo – I could not get the macro view focus right due to the glass confusing the autofocus sensor:

I decided that my camera was inadequate for this particular task, so I called in a someone who has a professional camera with a high quality professional lens capable of manual focus and macro function. It is a far cry from my little Kodak Easy Share Z1012 used to make the photos above:

  • Camera – Canon 1D Mark IV
  • Lens – Canon MACRO 100mm 1:2.8 L IS USM

Just as I did with my clunky little Kodak camera, the photographer had a lot of trouble getting a clear shot through the glass. Below is a collection of shots done by that photographer at different distances and focus settings on the professional camera. Note that I also rotated the jar to see is different sections made anything clearer. Click any thumbnail to enlarge it (warning large download ~ 10MB each)

The professional photography setup also could not capture an image through the glass jar that looked as clear as what was shown by my photo with the thermometer outside the glass, or as clear as the split screen images presented in the Climate 101 video from 1:10 to 1:17. I invite readers to inspect the images above carefully, examine the EXIF data of the unedited original JPEG images presented at the native resolution of the Canon 1D camera at 4296×3264 pixels and examine for yourselves if it is possible to shoot the thermometer scale through the glass and get an image that is free from any distortions.

Neither I nor the professional photographer could get a clear image through the jar glass that matched the clarity of the thermometer scales seen in the split screen, so I am forced to conclude that in the split screen scene from 1:10 to 1:17 on the Climate 101 video, the thermometers are not in the jars.

But wait, there’s more.

The background behind the thermometers:

Remember point 2 above where I was concerned about the greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 which isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video from 1:00 to 1:20? Well, there’s something odd about that too. The background appears identical in both sides of the split screen. What first tipped me off was a speck on the thermometer.

Here’s a video capture from the start of the split screen sequence. I’ve highlighted something I found curious, a speck on the thermometer scale that appears on both thermometers:

At first I thought it was dust, but then I realized that wasn’t possible, as dust would NOT appear identically on both thermometers in the split screen. I surmised it might be a manufacturing defect, printed on the scale. Fortunately, I have two thermometers from the same manufacturer that I can compare to. Here’s my closeup of them:

Nope, no speck, so it isn’t a manufacturing defect common to all thermometers.

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Side note: Note above in the thermometer closeup how the scales are offset, this is due to the manufacturer hand calibrating these glass thermometers by trimming the card with the scale printed on it so 98.6 lines up with the top of the fluid line when the thermometers are placed in the temperature test well. Glassblowing is an inexact science, and each thermometer must be calibrated by a technician, then sealed. You can see how the cards don’t match here:

We can see this in the Climate 101 video also:

The green section of the card for the scale is clearly different lengths as part of the trimming process for calibration, so clearly we have two different thermometers.

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OK, back to the main issue.

In addition to the identical speck on the two thermometer scales, I noted several other identical specks and aberrations in the split screen video. I’ve listed them by number on two video captures below from two different times in the video (click images to enlarge for best viewing):

Climate 101 video @1:10 –

Climate 101 video @1:16 –

I have 8 labeled points that are identical between each frame @1:10 and @ 1:16 In fact they are identical on every video frame from 1:10 to 1:17. The only thing that changes is the blue liquid in the thermometer tube.

  1. Dots on left top glass edge match exactly
  2. Speck on right top glass edge matches exactly
  3. Smudge/discoloration near number “38” on scale matches exactly
  4. Speck in background matches exactly
  5. Speck near number 98 on scale matches exactly
  6. Tick mark pattern near number “36” matches exactly
  7. Smudge in background matches exactly
  8. Reflective highlight in glass tube matches exactly
  9. While not numbered, note how the background shading matches exactly

Conclusions

With 9 points of agreement between the two images through all video frames there is only one possible conclusion:

The split screen is showing the same piece of video, shot by a single camera and edited to make it appear as two separate pieces of video with two separate thermometers. All that is required is to apply edits along different portions of the timeline. It is the same video shot by the same camera on each side of the split screen.

Summary of what was discovered:

  1. The video of the experiment showing filling of the jar with CO2 was shot in multiple takes because the CO2 cylinder has three different positions between 1:00 and 1:10. It suggests the experiment didn’t go smoothly and had to be repeated.
  2. The thermometers in the split screen appear not to have been filmed through the glass of the jars, because the split screen video contains no optical aberrations of any kind. Neither myself nor the photographer with professional gear was able to get clear shots through the jar glass that equaled the clarity of the thermometer scales shown in the split screen video. This strongly suggests the thermometers were never in the jars for the split screen video showing temperature rise.
  3. The greenish-yellow background in the split screen at 1:10 to 1:17 isn’t seen anywhere else in the experiment video at all, and not in the jars, suggesting it was used only for that scene, which also suggests the thermometers were never in the jars for the split screen video sequence.
  4. The video of the split screen shows two identical backgrounds, and two identical thermometers with 9 points of exact agreement in the backgrounds and the thermometers. Clearly the split screen contains two copies of the same video from one camera, edited in the timeline to make the liquid in the thermometer rise at different rates.

The only conclusion one can make from these four points is that the video of the “simple experiment” is a complete fabrication done in post production.

I’ve double checked my work, and I’ve had other people look at this video and the points I make and they see the same issues. They concur the video of the experiment was fabricated using editing techniques too.

While everyone can make mistakes (I know, I’ve made some big ones myself), this isn’t a case of a simple mistake, its a production that had to have been screened and approved before releasing it. It is mind blowing that this video, which was intended to be shown to millions of people (recall that Mr. Gore’s claim was 8.6 million views), was not clearly identified as an illustration or artistic license and not a true record of an experiment if that was their intent. Yet, they invite viewers to try replicating it themselves.

This level of fabrication on something that is so simple makes me wonder. Mr. Gore claimed in the MNN interview on 9/14 that:

“It’s not a hoax, it’s high school physics.”

Why then, does Mr. Gore’s organization go to such lengths to fabricate the presentation of the “simple high school physics experiment” they say proves the issue in that venue? Perhaps they couldn’t get the experiment to work properly using the materials chosen?  Maybe it might not be so easy to perform at home after all? Maybe a few controls are necessary such as the Mythbusters team used in the video below. Why else would they need to fake it in post?

Even if Mr. Gore and his team wanted to claim “artistic license” for editing the video for the experiment, why would they do so if it is so easy to replicate and do yourself? The narrator, Bill Nye the Science Guy actually invites people to do so at about 0:46 in the video. Why not simply do the experiment and record the results for all to see? Of course a one word lower third caption on the video at that point saying “DRAMATIZATION” would be all that was needed to separate a real experiment from one fabricated in post production – but they didn’t do that. I’ve watched the film several times, checked the audio, and the credits at the end. There is no mention nor notice of any dramatization regarding the “simple experiment” segment that I can find.

If Mr. Gore’s team actually performed the experiment and has credible video documenting the success of his simple “high school physics” exercise, I suggest that in the interest of clarity, now is the time to make it available.

About the experiment:

So far all I’ve concentrated on is the stagecraft I observed. It’s clearly obvious that the split screen scene with thermometers was not filmed inside the cookie jars. I’ve established that it is a staged production from start to finish and the split screen of two thermometers but was edited from a continuous video of a single thermometer with temperature rising then frame sequences were inserted out of order to compose each side of the split screen.

Of course the whole Climate 101 CO2 experiment is questionable to begin with, because it doesn’t properly emulate the physical mechanisms involved in heating our planet. Note the heat lamps used, likely one of these based on the red color we see in the lamp fixture:

Heat lamps like this produce visible red light and short wave infrared (SWIR is 1.4-3 µm wavelength). As we know from the classic greenhouse effect, glass blocks infrared so none of the SWIR was making it into the cookie jar. All that would do is heat the glass. John Tyndall’s 1850’s experiments used rock salt windows, which transmit infrared, for exactly that reason. Adding insult to injury, CO2 has no SWIR absorption bands. What CO2 does have though is higher density than air. The gas in the cookie jars was primarily heated by conduction in contact with the SWIR-heated glass.

Moreover, the CO2 injection in one cookie jar would raise it from 0.04% CO2 to very near 100% CO2 which is hardly comparable to the atmosphere going from 0.03% to 0.04% CO2 during the industrial age. Gore’s team provides no indication of the concentration of CO2 in the jar, that’s hardly scientific. Here’s how current greenhouse theory works:

Graphic by Ira Glickstein, PhD. for WUWT - click image for source article

All that said, in principle it does demonstrate that CO2 absorbs long wave infrared (LWIR 8–15 µm). Energy would likely be transmitted into the gas through conduction with the heated glass (which would likely get very hot) and it would then re-radiate inside the cookie jar as LWIR, and cause the CO2 jar to heat up faster and higher. But this is hardly news. The LWIR absorptive characteristics of many different gases under different pressures and mixtures was experimentally verified in thousands of experiments performed by Tyndall 150 years ago.

With this apparatus Tyndall observed new chemical reactions produced by high frequency light waves acting on certain vapors. The main scientific interest here, from his point of view, was the additional hard data it lent to the grand question of the mechanism by which molecules absorb radiant energy. Image: Wikipedia

This characteristic of CO2 is the theory of operation for millions of CO2 sensors routinely employed in commercial buildings with high occupancy rates to determine when ventilation fans should turn on and off to exhaust the CO2 buildup from a lot of people breathing the same air in a confined space.

So while some might say the stagecraft involved in the Climate 101 presentation wasn’t dishonest it was most assuredly staged with great literary license and dramatization of an effect that was experimentally verified elsewhere with far greater precision and attention to replicating the real world.

I should make it clear that I’m not doubting that CO2 has a positive radiative heating effect in our atmosphere, due to LWIR re-radiation, that is well established by science. What I am saying is that Mr. Gore’s Climate Reality Project did a poor job of demonstrating an experiment, so poor in fact that they had to fabricate portions of the presentation, and that the experiment itself (if they actually did it, we can’t tell) would show a completely different physical mechanism than what actually occurs in our atmosphere.

If Mr. Gore wants to convince the world, he’d do far better at emulating the Mythbusters TV show; show all the materials, steps, measurement, and results like they do.

As it stands, the video fabrications in the “simple experiment” by Mr. Gore’s Climate Reality Project is no better than the stagecraft done by Senator Tim Wirth turning off the air conditioning (to make it hot in the room) when Dr. James Hansen testified before lawmakers in June 1988 about CO2 being a problem.

The public, and especially young budding scientific minds, deserve better than stagecraft.

Of course LWIR radiative CO2 heat retention is only a small part of the global warming issue. There are still raging debates over climate sensitivity, uncertainty, feedbacks, and most recently whether clouds provide positive or negative feedbacks in our atmosphere.

But from my point of view, if everything is so certain, the science so settled, why does Mr. Gore resort to these cheap stagecraft tricks to convince people?

UPDATE: In comments, Mariss Freimanis runs a Photoshop difference analysis, proving the split screen image is the same. He emailed his analysis to me, shown below.

analysis_before
analysis_right_thermo

From Mariss

1) I have attached ‘analysis_before’ which is a cropped shot of your original with it’s circles and arrows.

2) The ‘analysis_right_thermo’ is the right thermometer overlaid already positioned to overlay the the left thermometer.

3) The ‘image_analysis_after’ shows the results of subtracting away the right overlay from the underlying left image.

Comments:

1) The  attached jpegs are reasonably sized in the sense that they don’t throw away any information. The ‘after’ image black area still contains some residual ‘non-black’ background noise from the subtraction process. This is largely due to my choice of a times-4 repixelation of the original. The image offset was not precisely 0.25 pixels so it reflects some residual image alignment errors.

2) This method reveals minute differences between two images. For the background to be as featureless as it is, it requires both thermometer’s reflections to be identically lit from the exact same light source angle (parallel ray source), their seemingly identical mottled green backgrounds to actually be identical and of course, the thermometers would have to have exactly the same ‘fingerprint’ flaws. It would take one hell of a telephoto lens to see both thermometers from exactly the same perspective. This is inconceivable.

3) The 0.25 pixel offset drift is significant because it reveals the same thermometer was used to sequentially film the composite image. Little things change with time such as thermal expansion. It marks the passage of time. That drift indicates they weren’t filmed simultaneously.

For those that might be concerned about the images above not being full resolution HD and having annotations, here’s the before and after difference image at 1:17 in the video:

original video capture - click to enlarge
difference process run at full resolution - click to enlarge

Note the only thing that changes is the fluid level and the reflection of it (thin line to the right) in the glass tube. This proves the “result” split screen is the same image, not two thermometers showing results.

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R. Gates
September 29, 2011 7:33 am

glacierman says:
September 29, 2011 at 6:16 am
RGates:
The video says it is an experiment to demonstrate the GH effect. You have said that even though it is edited it shows what was intented.
Do you stick by that?
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The video is an illustration of a simple experiment that could be performed at home and it illustrates how to do it. It never claimed to be an actual recording of the experiment being done. The whole point is to let the viewers try it for themselves to see the results…and Anthony (who doesn’t doubt the greenhouse effect of co2) did exactly that so at least one person did exactly what the video was suggesting.
REPLY: And again, your claim about home replication/actual recording is bullshit of the highest order since they put up no “Dramatization” notice). And while it is true I know CO2 has a LWIR radiative property that provide sa small amount of warming (compared to water vapor) The amount of CO2 warming is pretty small by comparison, non-linear, and we are approaching the top of the saturation curve for returned LWIR. So, unlike you, I don’t see it as much of a problem, and unlike the dishonest Mr. Gore, I don’t see AGW hiding behind every weather event as he would have the world believe.
– Anthony

Devasahayam
September 29, 2011 7:40 am

No surprise that Gore is incapable of representing ANYTHING of reality!

glacierman
September 29, 2011 7:47 am

RGates Says:
“The video is an illustration of a simple experiment that could be performed at home and it illustrates how to do it. It never claimed to be an actual recording of the experiment being done. The whole point is to let the viewers try it for themselves to see the results…and Anthony (who doesn’t doubt the greenhouse effect of co2) did exactly that so at least one person did exactly what the video was suggesting.”
Again avoid the question and the point and try to argue something else. Very disciplined misdirection.
The video does not show a “Greenhouse Effect” as it states. It is called the “greenhouse effect in a bottle” afterall. That is the point. You do much to help the cause so please keep it up.

Al Gormless
September 29, 2011 7:54 am

I salute your endeavours exposing this endless corruption.
Who’da thunk a really long post about glass cookie jars could be so interesting! They can’t even stand up to marketing scrutiny, let alone scientific scrutiny.
Great post & keep up the good work.

Dave Springer
September 29, 2011 8:00 am

NetDr says:
September 29, 2011 at 7:24 am
Actually I can’t find any significant, demonstrable downsides to higher level of CO2 in the atmosphere. There are significant, demonstrable benefits. Plants don’t grow well on ice so any warming, which is predominantly in the form of milder nights & winters in higher latitudes, is welcome warmth as it extends growing seasons where extensions are most needed. Plants grow faster and use less water in the process in higher CO2. The earth is in an ice age so a bit more warmth provides a bit more insurance that some combination of earth-cooling events like volcanic eruptions and solar minima won’t combine to trigger the next round of glaciation.
So where are the demonstrable downsides? All I see is handwaving about possible climate disruption but no actual negative disruption is occurring.

R. Gates
September 29, 2011 8:04 am

glacierman says:
September 29, 2011 at 7:47 am
RGates Says:
“The video is an illustration of a simple experiment that could be performed at home and it illustrates how to do it. It never claimed to be an actual recording of the experiment being done. The whole point is to let the viewers try it for themselves to see the results…and Anthony (who doesn’t doubt the greenhouse effect of co2) did exactly that so at least one person did exactly what the video was suggesting.”
Again avoid the question and the point and try to argue something else. Very disciplined misdirection.
The video does not show a “Greenhouse Effect” as it states. It is called the “greenhouse effect in a bottle” afterall. That is the point. You do much to help the cause so please keep it up.
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To the question of “greenhouse in a bottle” there are of course two different types of greenhouse effects going on in such an experiment. One of them is happening in both bottles and one is happening to a greater extent only in the bottle with the added CO2.

ChE
September 29, 2011 8:10 am

The video is an illustration of a simple experiment that could be performed at home and it illustrates how to do it. It never claimed to be an actual recording of the experiment being done. The whole point is to let the viewers try it for themselves to see the results…and Anthony (who doesn’t doubt the greenhouse effect of co2) did exactly that so at least one person did exactly what the video was suggesting.

Err… no. This (if it were properly done) would demonstrate the Tyndall effect. The greenhouse effect is a whole nuther experiment, with a rather different apparatus. And the greenhouse effect from CO2 would be just about impossible to demonstrate in an apparatus of reasonable size, since it would require several km of gas space.
So this faked demonstration of the Tyndall effect was misrepresented as a real experiment proving the greenhouse effect (2 strikes already), and then they jumped from that to AGW complete with feedback.
That’s at least four strikes. You’re out.

Ben of Houston
September 29, 2011 8:17 am

Anthony, while I am as frustrated as you are with the fabrication (and dissapointed in Mr Nye. Such fond memories of my childhood trampled recently), I have to say that you saved your best (and really, only valid) point for last. I’ve seen numerous times when someone had to fake the results of simple experiments for the cameras (I’m not meaning embarassing ones like shoving lemmings of cliffs and putting bombs in beakers) because it couldn’t be seen well on camera. While it isn’t good science, I would actually support quickly removing the thermometers for photograph (well, I’d use a digital with a probe and end the whole problem since they aren’t really visible through the glass. The resulting demonstration is quite absurd, though. I would not be surprised if they actually Fred-Flinstoned it with a lighter.
However, the important points you save for the very end. CO2 doesn’t absorb short wave infrared, Glass does, and the only change is in the density of the gas. The addition of CO2 to the one also adds convection not present in the other . This is a heat transfer problem and has nothing to do with radiation.

Johnnythelowery
September 29, 2011 8:23 am

Al Gore can lie up to a High school physics level but not including!!!!!

Joe
September 29, 2011 8:24 am

R. Gates says:
September 29, 2011 at 8:04 am
To the question of “greenhouse in a bottle” there are of course two different types of greenhouse effects going on in such an experiment. One of them is happening in both bottles and one is happening to a greater extent only in the bottle with the added CO2.
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Great, now all you need to do is prove that the Earth is surrounded by a gigantic glass sphere that inhibits the free expansion of atmospheric gasses.

Red Etin
September 29, 2011 8:25 am

I always like to present my simple microbiology experiment. Single cells are the most abundant form of biomass on earth so life on earth can be represented by a culture of bacteria.
Measure the temperature in the atmosphere above a liquid culture of bacteria. Slightly heat the culture and measure CO2 again. The CO2 level has increased owing to an increase in metabolism of the bacteria.
Conclusion: Increasing global CO2 is caused by increasing global temperature.

September 29, 2011 8:32 am

Nice job on the research.
But, oh my god! I can not believe you wasted so much time on something so stupid! You spent all that time just to prove a video that was meant only to be a cartoon-like representation of the real science was not a real experiment? Seriously? That wasn’t obvious to you before you wasted all that time and energy? IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO FOOL ANYONE INTO BELIEVING IT WAS A VIDEO OF A REAL SCIENCE EXPERIMENT. Bill Neigh normally uses cartoons to demonstrate such things to 10 year olds. Would you have wasted the same amount of time proving the cartoon was not a video of a real science experiment?
The video was only done to illustrate the approximate level of complexity of doing a real experiment to show how it was something simple enough for a high school student to do, and to understand. IT WAS NOT A REAL EXPERIMENT and anyone over the age of 10 should have understood that without having to do all your video forensics.
The only thing worse than the time you wasted carefully proving the obvious, was that people who read your blog actually thought you had done something useful. How sad of a world do we really live in here that when all the complexity and hard political problems of the climate change debate comes down to people wasting their time proving a video created in a studio is not real life?

MattN
September 29, 2011 8:33 am

This is, once again, why this blog in the #1 science blog on the internets….

September 29, 2011 8:34 am

R.Gates says: “and Anthony (who doesn’t doubt the greenhouse effect of co2)”
Is this true, (Anthony)?
the only effect I could notice and predict from the increased CO2 is increased vegetation which indeed does cause some warming, as it appears to be trapping some heat, but I don’t think it is that much. The bigger part of modern warming (past 50 years) is due to natural reasons.
So,indirectly there is some effect from the increase in CO2 but it is what people and greenies want: more trees and more green.
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/more-carbon-dioxide-is-ok-ok

RockyRoad
September 29, 2011 8:35 am

R. Gates says:
September 29, 2011 at 8:04 am

…To the question of “greenhouse in a bottle” there are of course two different types of greenhouse effects going on in such an experiment. One of them is happening in both bottles and one is happening to a greater extent only in the bottle with the added CO2.

But your points are all moot, R. You’re not addressing the “big picture”. It really doesn’t matter.
Dave Springer has it exactly right–

“Actually I can’t find any significant, demonstrable downsides to higher level of CO2 in the atmosphere. There are significant, demonstrable benefits.”

(Emphasis mine.)

“So where are the demonstrable downsides? All I see is handwaving about possible climate disruption but no actual negative disruption is occurring.”

Exactly! Where are these demonstrable downsides, R.? And how much money are you proposing to spend on a situation that is not only a non-problem, but that has significant deleterious impact if you carry any type of mitigation? As Dave also says:

“Plants don’t grow well on ice so any warming, which is predominantly in the form of milder nights & winters in higher latitudes, is welcome warmth as it extends growing seasons where extensions are most needed. Plants grow faster and use less water in the process in higher CO2. The earth is in an ice age so a bit more warmth provides a bit more insurance that some combination of earth-cooling events like volcanic eruptions and solar minima won’t combine to trigger the next round of glaciation.”

As a geologist, I fear this “next round of glaciation”–I do NOT fear a slight warming of the earth, whatever the cause. Anybody that thinks it could result in runaway catastrophic climate disruption is driven by an overactive imagination, not the facts.

Johnnythelowery
September 29, 2011 8:37 am

I’m with Monckton Anthony. This is actionable. If you need any funds just say the word

September 29, 2011 8:37 am

Curt Welch,
What color is the sky on your planet? Because here on planet earth, Algore fully intended to give the impression that he was conducting a legitimate science experiment. He provided no disclaimers to the contrary. He is simply carrying on his mendacious modus operandi from An Inconvenient Truth. And how Anthony uses his time is no business of yours at all.

R. Gates
September 29, 2011 8:46 am

Seems some are suggesting that the additional CO2 in a glass container absorbs no LW radiation, eh? That extra LW bouncing around the inside of the glass container will not register on a thermometer, eh? Wow. Well, I guess since the speed of light appears not to actually be the fastest speed in the universe, then we might as well not have LW radiation affecting thermometers either.

Dikran Marsupial
September 29, 2011 8:48 am

Red Etin writes “Conclusion: Increasing global CO2 is caused by increasing global temperature.”
No. If the natural environment were a net source of CO2 into the atmosphere then the annual increase in atmospheric CO2 would be greater than annual anthropogenic emissions (as both man and the natural environment would be net sources), but this is not the case, so we know with a high degree of certainty that the rise is not a natural phenomenon.
The experiment only shows that warm microbes produce more CO2 than cool microbes. It doesn’t prove that CO2 increases because of temperature increases becase it ignores many other factors that affect atmospheric concentrations (including man).
Now if I were WUWT, instead of pointing out a scientific flaw in the argument, as I have just done, I would make do with complaining that the experiment wasn’t filmed in a single take! ;o)
P.S. if your post was a parody, sorry, it was just too subtle for me.

Steve
September 29, 2011 8:48 am

Even the Mythbusters get it wrong when they say that the Digital thermometers have an accuracy of 0.1degC. in fact, they have a resolution of 0.1deg. Their accuracy is dependent upon the device specifications and how long it is since they were calibrated.

Rolf Atkinson
September 29, 2011 8:53 am

Thanks to those who pointed out my confusion of Montford and Monckton. I have a fair respect for both – but Monckton it was whose outburst I thought was rather regrettable.
HenryP says:
You and Steven and others are mistaken.
An experiment that only looks at the radiative warming is not valid as it does not take into account that CO2 is also cooling the atmosphere, both the radiative cooling (by deflecting sunshine) and the cooling by taking part in the life cycle (plants and trees need warmth and CO2 to grow).
the question is: what is the net effect?
Henry clearly doesn’t know that CO2 is transparent to sunshine but traps the IR reradiated from the surface.
Dikran Marsupial says:
September 29, 2011 at 5:31 am
Rolf Atkinson writes “You also assume that I am claiming that the extra 100ppm of CO2 is necessarily anthropogenic. Not so. I think the arguments for short residence time (<10y) are not easily dismissed,". Such arguments are easily dismissed. The residence time is indeed less than 10 years, however (as pointed out by the first IPCC WG1 report, on page 8) the residence/turnover time is not relevant to the discussion of the cause of increased atmospheric CO2, what matters is the adjustment time (which is 50-200 years). The fact that the rise in atmospheric CO2 is due to anthropogenic emissions is one of the few bits of science that actually is settled, even if there are those who are unable to accept it.
The part Dikran didn't bother to read was "likely, a bit of both". There is anthropogenic CO2, but there is also CO2 outgassed from warmer surface waters. Dikran denies the latter though it follows from the temp-solubility relationship (and, if I remember rightly, it is included in that IPPC section?) I expressed caution about the claims of 100% of 100ppm from anthropogenic sources. Dikran thinks the science is settled to that degree of accuracy.
More importantly, the IPCC position seems to be that the adjustment time is 50+ years based on an assumption (?) that there is minimal mixing between the relatively CO2-rich shallows and the relatively CO2-starved depths. I wouldn't know, but I do know that not a lot of the research billions has been spent on researching this key issue. I.also note a recent paper (last week?) from the orthodox camp suggesting that the missing heating for the last decade has mysteriously found its way into the abyss; so maybe that non-mixing assumption is less than secure, and, if so, the adjustment time of 50+ years would not be secure either, and "the fact that the rise in atmospheric CO2 is due to anthopogenic emissions" would not be settled, nor indeed a fact.

September 29, 2011 8:59 am

Welch
> But, oh my god! I can not believe you wasted so much time on something so stupid!
Not so fast. The time was actually well spent proving their intent was fraudulent.
The intent of the video was to convince the viewers that catastrophic CO2 warming is so plainly obvious that a even a ‘stupid’ high-school level experiment would demonstrate the truth of this fact.
The intent of the video was to have viewers to believe they witnessed a very simple, but deliberately overacted demonstration of scientific truth. (“See it’s _so_ true, that it’s still true, even if we overact a bit!”)
If that wasn’t the intent, then Al Gore wasted a lot his and his donors’ money on something very stupid.
Gore may be an idiot, but he’s not _that_ stupid.

Mike M
September 29, 2011 9:00 am

stevo says: So why have you wasted a week of your time investigating a video that illustrates that?

It is NEVER a ‘waste’ to illustrate that someone has been fraudulent. Establishing that someone is fraudulent in one instance lays doubt to everything else they purport. That is as it should be.

DR
September 29, 2011 9:07 am

R. Gates, nobody answered my question, so I’ll ask you.
Is the “greenhouse effect” exactly the same principle that heats a greenhouse?

September 29, 2011 9:14 am

Rolf Atkinson says:
“Henry clearly doesn’t know that CO2 is transparent to sunshine but traps the IR reradiated from the surface”
Henry@Rolf Atklinson
the truth is that I do understand and I found that CO2 is not transparent to sunshine:
try understanding the footnote here:
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/the-greenhouse-effect-and-the-principle-of-re-radiation-11-Aug-2011
There are in fact very few people who do understand the GH effect and the principle of re-radiation.
It needs some serious re-thinking?

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