The science is scuttled: Abraham, Gleick, and Trenberth resort to libeling Spencer and Christy

NOTE: This will be a “sticky”  top post for awhile, new posts appear below this one. UPDATE: Josh weighs in with a new cartoon.

I was hoping to have a quiet holiday weekend away from WUWT doing some household chores. Apparently that isn’t in the cards.

Below, I have reposted an essay from Dr. Roger Pielke Senior regarding an opinion piece published in The Daily Climate attacking Dr. John Christy and Dr. Roy Spencer for their ongoing work in satellite based measurement of the Earth’s temperature. Dr. Pielke does an excellent job of summarizing his rebuttal points, and I’ll point out that he’s used some very strong unconventional language in the title of his piece.

One point Dr. Pielke touches on related to an orbital decay correction applied to the UAH satellite measurement comes from his first hand experience, and I urge readers to read it fully to get the history. One line from the op-ed in The Daily Climate bothered me in particular:

Over the years, Spencer and Christy developed a reputation for making serial mistakes that other scientists have been forced to uncover.

This my friends, is breathtaking for its sheer arrogance,  agenda, and the scuttling of the scientific process in one sentence.

The entire process of science is about building on early incomplete knowledge with new knowledge, and discarding old knowledge in favor of new evidence that is better understood and supported by observational evidence. All scientists make mistakes, it is part of the learning process of science. Any scientist who believes he/she hasn’t made mistakes, has never made a correction, or hasn’t built upon the mistakes of others to improve the science is deluding themselves.

And that crack about “…mistakes that other scientists have been forced to uncover.” is ludicrous. By the very nature of the scientific process, scientists work to uncover flaws in the work of others, and when mistakes and irrelevancies are burned away by this process, what is left in the crucible of scientific inquiry is regarded as the pure product.

I could say the same thing about GISS related  to Hansen and Gavin’s Y2K temperature problem which required a correction, also something other scientists were “forced to uncover”.

Even Einstein made mistakes, from Physics Today in 2005 Einstein’s Mistakes by Steven Weinberg:

In thinking of Einstein’s mistakes, one immediately recalls what Einstein (in a conversation with George Gamow2) called the biggest blunder he had made in his life: the introduction of the cosmological constant. After Einstein had completed the formulation of his theory of space, time, and gravitation—the general theory of relativity—he turned in 1917 to a consideration of the spacetime structure of the whole universe. He then encountered a problem. Einstein was assuming that, when suitably averaged over many stars, the universe is uniform and essentially static, but the equations of general relativity did not seem to allow a time-independent solution for a universe with a uniform distribution of matter. So Einstein modified his equations, by including a new term involving a quantity that he called the cosmological constant. Then it was discovered that the universe is not static, but expanding. Einstein came to regret that he had needlessly mutilated his original theory. It may also have bothered him that he had missed predicting the expansion of the universe.

For those reading who are prone to eye rolling, I would never presume to compare anyone in climate science to Einstein, but there’s an important and germane science history lesson here worth noting that parallels what has happened with the Spencer and Braswell paper challenging climate models and climate sensitivity.

Consider Edwin Hubble’s discovery of an expanding universe based on observational evidence. Einstein created a mathematical model of the universe, and as Wikipedia reportsEarlier, in 1917, Albert Einstein had found that his newly developed theory of general relativity indicated that the universe must be either expanding or contracting. Unable to believe what his own equations were telling him, Einstein introduced a cosmological constant (a “fudge factor“) to the equations to avoid this “problem”.

Einstein didn’t launch a tirade in the press. Instead, Einstein was humble enough to consider that he’d made a mistake and modified his mathematical model to fit the new observation. He later came to regret the cosmological constant, but it demonstrates his ability to assimilate new observational evidence.

Like Spencer and Braswell, Einstein too got his share of public drubbing for his work. Hitler commissioned a group of 100 top scientists in Germany write a book called “Hundert Autoren gegen Einstein” (Hundred authors against Einstein).

Einstein was asked: `Doesn’t it bother you Dr Einstein that you’ve got so many scientists against you?’

And he said: `It doesn’t take 100 scientists to prove me wrong, it takes a single fact’. Source

And that is the way of science. Opinions don’t matter, certificates, awards, and accolades don’t matter. Only the provable evidence matters. In the case of Spencer and Braswell, they too bring observational evidence to bear that may require adjustments to mathematical models. The difference here has been that rather than take the path of reconsideration, and arguing using the science following the peer review process, Abraham, Gleick, and Trenberth ignore that process and resort to a diatribe of ad hominem attacks, which in my opinion with that one sentence referencing to “…serial mistakes that other scientists have been forced to uncover.”, crosses the threshold from argument to libel.

Apparently, it is impossible for them to consider observational evidence supporting a lower climate sensitivity, and thus they’ve scuttled the scientific process of correcting and building on new knowledge in favor of a tabloid style attack.

Clearly, Abraham, Gleick, and Trenberth share none of the humble virtue demonstrated by Einstein.

Here’s Dr. Pielke’s essay:

Hatchet Job On John Christy and Roy Spencer By Kevin Trenberth, John Abraham and Peter Gleick

There is an opinion article at Daily Climate that perpetuates serious misunderstandings regarding the research of Roy Spencer and John Christy. It also is an inappropriate (and unwarranted) person attack on their professional integrity. Since I have first hand information on this issue, I am using my weblog to document the lack of professional decorum by Keven Trenberth, John Abraham and Peter Gleick.

The inappropriate article I am referring to is

Opinion: The damaging impact of Roy Spencer’s science

published on the Daily Climate on September 2 2011. The article is by Kevin Trenberth, John Abraham, and Peter Gleick.

Their headline reads

In his bid to cast doubts on the seriousness of climate change, University of Alabama’s Roy Spencer creates a media splash but claims a journal’s editor-in-chief.

The science doesn’t hold up.

I am reproducing the text of the article below with my comments inserted.

The text of their article starts with [highlights added]

The widely publicized paper by Roy Spencer and Danny Braswell, published in the journal Remote Sensing in July, has seen a number of follow-ups and repercussions.

Unfortunately this is not the first time the science conducted by Roy Spencer and colleagues has been found lacking. The latest came Friday in a remarkable development, when the journal’s editor-in-chief, Wolfgang Wagner, submitted his resignation and apologized for the paper.

As we noted on RealClimate.org when the paper was published, the hype surrounding Spencer’s and Braswell’s paper was impressive; unfortunately the paper itself was not. Remote Sensing is a fine journal for geographers, but it does not deal much with atmospheric and climate science, and it is evident that this paper did not get an adequate peer review. It should have received an honest vetting.

My Comment:

The claim that a journal on remote sensing, which publishes paper on the climate system “but…does not deal much with atmospheric and climate science”, is not climate science is obviously incorrect.  This trivialization of the journal in this manner illustrates the inappropriately narrow view of the climate system by the authors.  That the paper “should have received an honest vetting”, I assume means that they or their close colleagues should have reviewed it (and presumably recommended rejection).

The Trenberth et al text continues

Friday that truth became apparent. Kevin Trenberth received a personal note of apology from both the editor-in-chief and the publisher of Remote Sensing. Wagner took this unusual and admirable step after becoming aware of the paper’s serious flaws. By resigning publicly in an editorial posted online, Wagner hopes that at least some of this damage can be undone.

My Comment:

My son has posted on this (see). I agree; for Kevin Trenberth to receive an apology is quite bizarre.

Their text continues

Unfortunately this is not the first time the science conducted by Roy Spencer and colleagues has been found lacking.

Spencer, a University of Alabama, Huntsville, climatologist, and his colleagues have a history of making serious technical errors in their effort to cast doubt on the seriousness of climate change. Their errors date to the mid-1990s, when their satellite temperature record reportedly showed the lower atmosphere was cooling. As obvious and serious errors in that analysis were made public, Spencer and Christy were forced to revise their work several times and, not surprisingly, their findings agree better with those of other scientists around the world: the atmosphere is warming.

My Comment:

This statement of the history is a fabrication and is an ad hominem attack.  The errors in their analysis were all minor and were identified as soon as found. Such corrections are a normal part of the scientific process as exemplified recently in the finding of a substantial error in the ERA-40 reanalysis;

Screen, James A., Ian Simmonds, 2011: Erroneous Arctic Temperature Trends in the ERA-40 Reanalysis: A Closer Look. J. Climate, 24, 2620–2627. doi: 10.1175/2010JCLI4054.1.

My direct experience with the UAH-MSU data analysis has been over more than a decade. I will share two examples here of the rigor with which they assess and correct, when needed, their analyses.

First, at one of the  CCSP 1.1 committee meetings that I attended  [for the report Temperature Trends in the Lower Atmosphere: Steps for Understanding and Reconciling Differences (in Chicago)],  an error was brought to the attention of Roy Spencer and John Christy by the lead investigators of the RSS MSU project (Mears and Wentz).

The venue at which this error was brought up (in our committee meeting) was a clear attempt to discredit John and Roy’s research as we sat around the table. Roy found a fix within a few minutes, and concluded it was minor. This fix was implemented when he returned to Alabama.

When I saw how this “exposure” of an error was presented (in front of all of us, instead of in private via e-mail or phone call), I became convinced that a major goal of this committee (under the leadership of Tom Karl) was to discredit them. I told John this at a break right after this occurred. At a later meeting (in December 2008),

Protecting The IPCC Turf – There Are No Independent Climate Assessments Of The IPCC WG1 Report Funded And Sanctioned By The NSF, NASA Or The NRC.

I explicitly saw Tom Karl disparage the Christy and Spencer research.

In order to further examine the robustness of the Christy and Spencer analyses, in 2006 I asked Professor Ben Herman, who is an internationally well-respect expert in atmospheric remote sensing, to examine the Christy and Spencer UAH MSU  and the Wentz and Mears RSS MSU data analyses.   He worked with a student to do this and completed the following study

Randall, R. M., and B. M. Herman (2007), Using Limited Time Period Trends as a Means to Determine Attribution of Discrepancies in Microwave Sounding Unit Derived Tropospheric Temperature Time Series, J. Geophys. Res., doi:10.1029/2007JD008864

which includes the finding that

“Comparison of MSU data with the reduced Radiosonde Atmospheric Temperature Products for Assessing Climate radiosonde data set indicates that RSS’s method (use of climate model) of determining diurnal effects is likely overestimating the correction in the LT channel. Diurnal correction signatures still exist in the RSS LT time series and are likely affecting the long-term trend with a warm bias.”

The robustness of the UAH MSU [the Christy and Spencer analysis] is summarized in the text

“Figure 5 shows that 10-year trends center on the mid-1994’s through 10 year trends centered on the mid-1995’s indicates the RSS−Sonde trends are significantly different from zero where the Sonde−UAH trends are not. In addition, for 10-year trends centered on late-1999 through 10- years trend centered on early 2000 the RSS−Sonde trends are significantly different from zero where Sonde−UAH are marginally not. Another key feature in the RSS−Sonde series is the rapid departure in trend magnitude from trends centered on 1995 through trends centered on late-1999 where the Sonde−UAH magnitude in trends is nearly constant. These features are consistent with the diurnal correction signatures previously discussed. These findings [in] the RSS method for creating the diurnal correction (use of a climate model) is [the] cause for discrepancies between RSS and UAH databases in the LT channel.”

The latest Trenberth et al article is a continuation of this ad hominem effort to discredit John Christy and Roy Spencer.

The Trenberth et al article continues

Over the years, Spencer and Christy developed a reputation for making serial mistakes that other scientists have been forced to uncover. Last Thursday, for instance, the Journal of Geophysical Research – Atmospheres published a study led by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory climate scientist Ben Santer. Their findings showed that Christy erred in claiming that recent atmospheric temperature trends are not replicated in models.

This trend continues: On Tuesday the journal Geophysical Research Letters will publish a peer-reviewed study by Texas A&M University atmospheric scientist Andrew Dessler that undermines Spencer’s arguments about the role of clouds in the Earth’s energy budget.

We only wish the media would cover these scientific discoveries with similar vigor and enthusiasm that they displayed in tackling Spencer’s now-discredited findings.

My Comment:

Roy Spencer is hardly discredited because there are papers that disagree with his analysis and conclusions.  This will sort itself out in the peer-reviewed literature after he has an opportunity to respond with a follow on paper, and/or a Comment/Reply exchange.  Similarly, John Christy can respond to the Santer et al paper that is referred to in the Trenberth et al article.

What is disturbing, however, in the Trenberth et al article is its tone and disparagement of two outstanding scientists. Instead of addressing the science issues, they resort to statements such as Spencer and Christy making “serial mistakes”.  This is truly a hatchet job and will only further polarize the climate science debate

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JJwright
September 5, 2011 5:13 am

tallbloke says:
September 5, 2011 at 4:57 am
The comment you referenced has nothing to do with the changes shown in the link:
the AQUA 4.4km changes were made in 2010-07-03
the NOAA 4.4km data was terminated in 2010-05 when it showed a temp 0.1K above AQUA
The AQUA 7.5km is 0.45K warmer than the NOAA 7.5km data (now discontinued)
The AQUA 22km is 0.2K warmer than NOAA
The NOAA| 1km showing 1.1K warming since 1998 was terminated in 2009-09 with no AQUA replacement

Ron de Haan
September 5, 2011 5:14 am

Fred Singer SEII presentation: 1976 t0 2000 warming, that;s fake, it doesn’t exist
http://notrickszone.com/2011/09/03/fred-singer-at-suppressed-seii-presentation-1976-to-2000-warming-thats-fake-it-doesnt-exist/

September 5, 2011 5:21 am

Anthony, you increased Climate Daily’s circulation onehundredfold by linking to this article.

ImranCan
September 5, 2011 5:22 am

Indeed all very bizarre behaviour ….
1) Why, if there are significant errors in the paper, do they just not submit a correction ?
2) Why, if the paper is significantly flawed, would it ever be necessary to personalise the rebuttals like this … and via blog sites ?
3) Why, if the paper is so flawed, has it not been retracted by the journal ?
The answers to these lie in the fact that the paper is not flawed, but the truth is huge threat to their life’s work.

Julian Flood
September 5, 2011 5:23 am

richard verney says: September 5, 2011 at 3:11 am
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The green taxes and subsidies are hitting ordinary people hard. If the government was to put on hold this green madness, it would save about £18billion per year which is more than the present austerity cuts. Further, consumers would save several hundred pounds a year in not seeing their energy bills rise, and perhaps more when one takes into account green taxes on petrol and air travel. This would be the equivalent of a 1 to 3% tax cut for the less well off, and would stimilute consumer spending. If only the government would put their green agenda on hold, this would greatly assist the economic recovery.
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Yes! With one bound the Boy was free….
HMG does not read Watts Up. However, I bet they’re watching the comments on the Telegraph today — a good article about the cost of green taxes to households. Householders have votes.
You’d do the country a favour by reposting your comments there.
JF

Shona
September 5, 2011 5:30 am

“JJ says:
September 4, 2011 at 11:22 pm
“It was precisely this kind of treatment of McIntyre in the early 2000′s that got me to start paying attention to the climate “debate”. ”
Me too. Not only do they protest too much, they do so in unsubstantive, logcially fallacious, anti-scientific ways. ”
Me too, when I read about the Team’s wish to remove 3 editors they disliked, I thought it was humans being human, and sounding off. When I found out that they did indeed, erm “resign”, “wish to spend more time with their family”, I realized there was something to it. This makes it the 4th. They seem to have a lot of clout.
Can someone tell me if I’ve got the science of this right? Christy and Spencer have posited that the missing heat is not missing, but was never there in the first place?
This finding seems to agree with Trenberth and co’s tropical paper?
Or according to Spencer, T’s paper is not relevant because it’s regional, theirs is global?
Or according to Trenberth (I don’t think he has said what he thinks, but we can infer what he thinks from his reaction), this opposes his findings?
Because of this Wagner has resigned and apologised to Trenberth! Eh? What’s it got to do with Trenberth? By their own admission he is not mentioned … and Spencer himself says that his paper is not relevant.
Anyway I hereby move that the 2nd Galileo Prize be awarded to Spencer and Christy! (Sounds like a 70s cop show 🙂 ).

Jessie
September 5, 2011 5:31 am

Richard S Courtney says: September 5, 2011 at 1:29 am
I suggest the movie using VLC media player True Grit
The wicked flee when none pursueth Proverbs 28:1
‘and robbed him of his life, and his horse and two Californian gold pieces that he carried in his pocket…… and Papa had taken him up to Fort Smith to lead back a string of mustang ponies he had bought, …..
he could have walked his horse, because not a soul in that city could be bothered to give chase……..
Later in the movie, even a 14 year old could distinguish the mores of our [true] science and the laws developed by humans which seek to explain the laws of nature – Malum in se

Viv Evans
September 5, 2011 5:43 am

Re the ‘serial mistakes’ said to have been ‘uncovered’ by other scientists:
This remark is indeed not just indicative for the ‘serial’ arrogance displayed by Trenberth, Gleick and Abraham, but for their aim of doing a thorough hatchet job on Dr Spencer and all his co-authors.
They do not link to any papers ‘correcting’ those ‘serial mistakes’, because they feel they don’t need to: their acolytes will, they trust, spread this slur about in the usual manner.
If one were so foolish to ask them for evidence,all they’ll do will be providing a link to this hatchet job.
It is of a piece with the ‘settled’ science, and shows that Trenberth and the rest of them have stopped arguing from science but rely on authority – their own that is. They simply do not see, never mind acknowledge, that their own science has been shown again and again to rest on very small feet of clay.
Take it as another point of evidence that cAGW is about politics and power – not about science.

tallbloke
September 5, 2011 6:00 am

JJwright says:
September 5, 2011 at 5:13 am

JJ, I think you should describe what is going on in each graph on your post, and then send a polite email to Christy asking him to take a look and explain the differences. I know the old MSU was going wonky, and that’s why UAH switched to AQUA.

September 5, 2011 6:01 am

As a New Zealander, I am proud of countrymen and women such as Lord Rutherford, John Hamilton (inventor of the marine jet propulsion unit and many more, John Britten who developed a world-beating motorcycle, Pearse, the first man observed in powered flight and many more. Trenberth is an embarrassment.

DEEBEE
September 5, 2011 6:17 am

Their errors date to the mid-1990s, when their satellite temperature record reportedly showed the lower atmosphere was cooling.
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Could this apply verbatim to IPCC Ars?

DEEBEE
September 5, 2011 6:27 am

I felt that an editor resigning because a paper had been “savaged” on blogs and by “scientists on blogs”, was quite odd. But with the three sttoges opinion piece, it now becomes clear that he was just setting up the predicate.

mycroft
September 5, 2011 6:41 am

Sad day for the scientific method,whats the saying about “desperate people requiring desperate measures.lets hope Dr Christy and Dr Spencer take action and point out a few more problems with the models and theory.

September 5, 2011 6:51 am

Just read an article on Einstein’s worst mistakes. 23 of them were listed. All pointed out by others. Guess Spencer and Christy are in good company.

Dr. Lurtz
September 5, 2011 6:51 am

“Over the years, Spencer and Christy developed a reputation for making serial mistakes that other scientists have been forced to uncover.”
As per past practices (ref. Catholic Church), Spencer and Christy (and the other Deniers) should first be tried under “Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition”. Excommunication has already occurred, so the likely result would be HOUSE ARREST.
Will the CLIMATE JUDGES be held responsible when the Earth turns cold??? Can the TRUTH claw back their bonuses and gifts, or will the standard practice of reward and promotion for following the “Politically Correct View (money)” prevail??
What is at the heart of this issue is “World Control”!!

JJwright
September 5, 2011 6:51 am

tall bloke
I left a message some months ago – no response

Ralph
September 5, 2011 6:52 am

>>>Wijnad
>>>They have ALL their eggs in this basket and if they now admit they
>>>are wrong about CAGW, they will be burned at the stake
>>>They have no choice but to fight to the death…
Absolutely. If you want to know what AGW ‘scientists’ will do, just watch President Assad in Syria, for he is in the same position.
Assad is a part of a persecuted minority sect (that is not entirely Muslim), that was placed in positions of power by the French at the turn of the last century. If he ever gives up power, he and his clan will be slaughtered/exiled, and so he has no choice but to hang on to power at all costs. The AGW ‘Team’ are in the same position – admit any fundamental errors, and they will become ridiculed, powerless, despised and exiled from the scientific community.
My prediction, back in April, was that Assad will commit another Hamma massacre (some 40,000 died back in the ’70s) to retain power. My prediction for the AGW crowd is that they will destroy as many skeptic politicians and scientists as they can, to hold on to power. However, the skeptics have one wild-card that the AGWs cannot control – the weather. One bone-chilling great freeze of a winter in the USA will topple their corrupt and totalitarian regime.
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Olen
September 5, 2011 7:09 am

The hatchet job done on Christy and Spencer is typical of liberals who only want their own voices to be heard and writings to be seen. Organized silencing of the opposition seems to be their way.
As for mistakes in work there is a big difference in evaluation between honest mistakes due to the pressure of time or the complexity of the job and intentional mistakes, omissions, incompetence or the need to deceive. After all audits, reviews and inspections are to get at the truth of what is working right and not.

September 5, 2011 7:18 am

The day Abraham, Gleick and Trenberth admit that there silly AGW models cannot predict a week out – which would match the current state of the art in orbit predictions given LEO and GEO orbit decay – is the day they can claim someone else has ‘serious errors’ in their science.
Their glass house is in shatters all around them as AGW theory has failed over and over and over again, all the while they have replaced science with fictional hype to try and salvage AGW from the dustbin of foolish history.
While this is a professional insult, look at who is throwing the insults as ask – do you care? Fools lashing out, nothing more.
Pathetic really.

September 5, 2011 7:21 am

By the way, this is a GOOD DAY for science. When peons come out and make wild and baseless accusations to divert from their own mountain of failed science, you know the debate is reaching its pinnacle – and end.
Science has always evolved through tumultuous debate. The history of science is replete with heated argument just as the old paradigm is thrown out with the coming of a new one. This is no different. All that is happening is the internet has allowed this evolutionary cycle to work much quicker – but it will never work with less heat. This stuck in the past are most fervent their world views don’t come crashing down.

Doug S
September 5, 2011 7:23 am

This angry and vile reaction fits very well with the idea that “climate science” as practiced by “the team” is really a religion of sorts. The way these poor souls from “the team” conduct themselves has no connection with honest science and the absolute human joy of discovery. Science is the pinnacle of mans achievement on earth and should be an open, refreshing and lively discussion among the best and brightest of our people. Point, counter point, proof, hypothesis, theory, practical application and improved living conditions are the goal. What the team is attempting to do is create a wall around their little fiefdom and anoint themselves high priests. It will not work.
Great work on the subject Anthony. Without dedicated people like you it would have take many more lives and much more treasure before the false religion of climate science was exposed as a fraud.

JFD
September 5, 2011 7:23 am

Trenberth means “bee” in Hebrew. Bees can sting, but when they sting too hard they leave their stinger in the mammal/person attacked and soon die, thus losing the ability to sting again. My prediction is that Trenberth will find himself left out of the mainstream climate discussion in the future. With his deplorable actions he is now a stinger-less drone and his professional career is finished.
From my experience scientists do make mistakes and it is rather difficult to get them to acknowledge the mistakes when the mistake involves actual measured findings. It takes a broad perspective to examine conclusions that are based on measured or experimental data. I have read many of Roy Spencer’s works. In all fairness, he does miss a few points now and then. He accepts his mistakes like a true gentleman and distinguished scientist; however, he would be well advised to let a broad based engineering supervisor review his work before submitting it to the whole wide world.
JFD

sleeper
September 5, 2011 7:27 am

This episode merely confirms the “cargo cult” nature of much if not most of climate science today. Little intellectual honesty, practically no self-doubt or self-discipline in the pursuit of scientific truth. Someone casts doubt and, instead of an open-minded investigation into this new idea, the natives get restless and start chucking spears. I wish Feynman was still alive.

Disko Troop
September 5, 2011 7:28 am

This whole climate controversy is the same as the two fleas arguing over who owns the dog. In the entire WRITTEN history of mankind, some say 7000 years, others 3,500 years, there has not been one single day, hour, or minute when the entire, or even close to the entire, population of the Earth has agreed with each other let alone acted in concert. As history teaches us…if it has not happened yet with a population as low as 2000 years ago, then the increase in the population increases the input of chaos in the system and it will never happen in spite of modern communications.
Premise 1 of the AlGorian dogma is that all nations MUST act together to save the planet. China has never agreed with the USA. Russia has never agreed with China. India despises Pakistan. Japan and China are in dispute. Almost no African nation other than South Africa has a stable government. Indonesia distrusts Malaysia. No one except Japan likes the USA. Europe cannot even agree on an interest rate. The UK, NZ, Australia etc are little offshore Islands and completely irrelevant.
If a Country leads by example, no one will follow, they will simply mop up the opportunities your example gives them. Just as with the bully in the playground…If you turn the other cheek he will hit you on it.
So there is not one single chance in hell that even if Trenberth et al were right that anything could be done to prevent the CO2 monster from destroying the world, equally if his team are wrong there is no chance in hell of the other side being able to prevent the Natural variability in Climate from freezing our gonads off in the next million years even if they wanted to.
So what is the point in all this? Why does Trenberth behave like a four year old ? He is not the only one either. This whole ridiculous scenario boils down to pride. I am right and you are wrong so Nyah!. Back in the Playground.
Now what we have are a bunch of scientists arguing about who is right for no other reason than personal pride. Circling them like the Hyena around the lions kill are the Politicians, each after his own statue in a square somewhere, a piece of purple cloth with a badge on it, or a title and some nice lucrative speaking engagements. Then surrounding them are the prairy dogs, the journalists, trying to grab a few scraps to feed their cubs, the vast majority of the almost totally disinterested population of the world.
I wish the climate Scientists were the Lions, but they are not,. They are the Lions kill. The Lions are the big business men, the big land owners, the controllers of inherited wealth, the corrupt National leaders, The faceless ones behind Lloyds, behind the banks, behind the governments, behind the super-corporations. What do they think of all this argument? Go look at the superyachts, the stately homes and the private jets and work it out for yourself.
Me? I think the climate argument is fun. It cannot possibly influence the state of this Earth in 50 years or in 50,000 years.The Earth will treat us with the contempt we so richly deserve and chuck us off into space whenever it feels like it and nothing will change that. I will continue to eat and drink, stay warm in winter, drive a small car, compost old food, burn wood that I grow and put my junk in the recycling. Only if the other 4 billion people do that or better will anything change. Al Gore won’t even give up the Jet, the multiple homes etc. etc. so that leaves………You’ve guessed it.. Adapt to survive just like every living species has done for millenia.

JPeden
September 5, 2011 7:34 am

Unfortunately this is not the first time the science conducted by Roy Spencer and colleagues has been found lacking. The latest came Friday in a remarkable development, when the journal’s editor-in-chief, Wolfgang Wagner, submitted his resignation and apologized for the paper.
S&B11 was “found lacking” because Wagner resigned and apologized? Yup, sports fans, that’s what ipcc Climate “Scientists” call a “method of proof”. They aren’t even in the freaking Stadium.

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