The science is scuttled: Abraham, Gleick, and Trenberth resort to libeling Spencer and Christy

NOTE: This will be a “sticky”  top post for awhile, new posts appear below this one. UPDATE: Josh weighs in with a new cartoon.

I was hoping to have a quiet holiday weekend away from WUWT doing some household chores. Apparently that isn’t in the cards.

Below, I have reposted an essay from Dr. Roger Pielke Senior regarding an opinion piece published in The Daily Climate attacking Dr. John Christy and Dr. Roy Spencer for their ongoing work in satellite based measurement of the Earth’s temperature. Dr. Pielke does an excellent job of summarizing his rebuttal points, and I’ll point out that he’s used some very strong unconventional language in the title of his piece.

One point Dr. Pielke touches on related to an orbital decay correction applied to the UAH satellite measurement comes from his first hand experience, and I urge readers to read it fully to get the history. One line from the op-ed in The Daily Climate bothered me in particular:

Over the years, Spencer and Christy developed a reputation for making serial mistakes that other scientists have been forced to uncover.

This my friends, is breathtaking for its sheer arrogance,  agenda, and the scuttling of the scientific process in one sentence.

The entire process of science is about building on early incomplete knowledge with new knowledge, and discarding old knowledge in favor of new evidence that is better understood and supported by observational evidence. All scientists make mistakes, it is part of the learning process of science. Any scientist who believes he/she hasn’t made mistakes, has never made a correction, or hasn’t built upon the mistakes of others to improve the science is deluding themselves.

And that crack about “…mistakes that other scientists have been forced to uncover.” is ludicrous. By the very nature of the scientific process, scientists work to uncover flaws in the work of others, and when mistakes and irrelevancies are burned away by this process, what is left in the crucible of scientific inquiry is regarded as the pure product.

I could say the same thing about GISS related  to Hansen and Gavin’s Y2K temperature problem which required a correction, also something other scientists were “forced to uncover”.

Even Einstein made mistakes, from Physics Today in 2005 Einstein’s Mistakes by Steven Weinberg:

In thinking of Einstein’s mistakes, one immediately recalls what Einstein (in a conversation with George Gamow2) called the biggest blunder he had made in his life: the introduction of the cosmological constant. After Einstein had completed the formulation of his theory of space, time, and gravitation—the general theory of relativity—he turned in 1917 to a consideration of the spacetime structure of the whole universe. He then encountered a problem. Einstein was assuming that, when suitably averaged over many stars, the universe is uniform and essentially static, but the equations of general relativity did not seem to allow a time-independent solution for a universe with a uniform distribution of matter. So Einstein modified his equations, by including a new term involving a quantity that he called the cosmological constant. Then it was discovered that the universe is not static, but expanding. Einstein came to regret that he had needlessly mutilated his original theory. It may also have bothered him that he had missed predicting the expansion of the universe.

For those reading who are prone to eye rolling, I would never presume to compare anyone in climate science to Einstein, but there’s an important and germane science history lesson here worth noting that parallels what has happened with the Spencer and Braswell paper challenging climate models and climate sensitivity.

Consider Edwin Hubble’s discovery of an expanding universe based on observational evidence. Einstein created a mathematical model of the universe, and as Wikipedia reportsEarlier, in 1917, Albert Einstein had found that his newly developed theory of general relativity indicated that the universe must be either expanding or contracting. Unable to believe what his own equations were telling him, Einstein introduced a cosmological constant (a “fudge factor“) to the equations to avoid this “problem”.

Einstein didn’t launch a tirade in the press. Instead, Einstein was humble enough to consider that he’d made a mistake and modified his mathematical model to fit the new observation. He later came to regret the cosmological constant, but it demonstrates his ability to assimilate new observational evidence.

Like Spencer and Braswell, Einstein too got his share of public drubbing for his work. Hitler commissioned a group of 100 top scientists in Germany write a book called “Hundert Autoren gegen Einstein” (Hundred authors against Einstein).

Einstein was asked: `Doesn’t it bother you Dr Einstein that you’ve got so many scientists against you?’

And he said: `It doesn’t take 100 scientists to prove me wrong, it takes a single fact’. Source

And that is the way of science. Opinions don’t matter, certificates, awards, and accolades don’t matter. Only the provable evidence matters. In the case of Spencer and Braswell, they too bring observational evidence to bear that may require adjustments to mathematical models. The difference here has been that rather than take the path of reconsideration, and arguing using the science following the peer review process, Abraham, Gleick, and Trenberth ignore that process and resort to a diatribe of ad hominem attacks, which in my opinion with that one sentence referencing to “…serial mistakes that other scientists have been forced to uncover.”, crosses the threshold from argument to libel.

Apparently, it is impossible for them to consider observational evidence supporting a lower climate sensitivity, and thus they’ve scuttled the scientific process of correcting and building on new knowledge in favor of a tabloid style attack.

Clearly, Abraham, Gleick, and Trenberth share none of the humble virtue demonstrated by Einstein.

Here’s Dr. Pielke’s essay:

Hatchet Job On John Christy and Roy Spencer By Kevin Trenberth, John Abraham and Peter Gleick

There is an opinion article at Daily Climate that perpetuates serious misunderstandings regarding the research of Roy Spencer and John Christy. It also is an inappropriate (and unwarranted) person attack on their professional integrity. Since I have first hand information on this issue, I am using my weblog to document the lack of professional decorum by Keven Trenberth, John Abraham and Peter Gleick.

The inappropriate article I am referring to is

Opinion: The damaging impact of Roy Spencer’s science

published on the Daily Climate on September 2 2011. The article is by Kevin Trenberth, John Abraham, and Peter Gleick.

Their headline reads

In his bid to cast doubts on the seriousness of climate change, University of Alabama’s Roy Spencer creates a media splash but claims a journal’s editor-in-chief.

The science doesn’t hold up.

I am reproducing the text of the article below with my comments inserted.

The text of their article starts with [highlights added]

The widely publicized paper by Roy Spencer and Danny Braswell, published in the journal Remote Sensing in July, has seen a number of follow-ups and repercussions.

Unfortunately this is not the first time the science conducted by Roy Spencer and colleagues has been found lacking. The latest came Friday in a remarkable development, when the journal’s editor-in-chief, Wolfgang Wagner, submitted his resignation and apologized for the paper.

As we noted on RealClimate.org when the paper was published, the hype surrounding Spencer’s and Braswell’s paper was impressive; unfortunately the paper itself was not. Remote Sensing is a fine journal for geographers, but it does not deal much with atmospheric and climate science, and it is evident that this paper did not get an adequate peer review. It should have received an honest vetting.

My Comment:

The claim that a journal on remote sensing, which publishes paper on the climate system “but…does not deal much with atmospheric and climate science”, is not climate science is obviously incorrect.  This trivialization of the journal in this manner illustrates the inappropriately narrow view of the climate system by the authors.  That the paper “should have received an honest vetting”, I assume means that they or their close colleagues should have reviewed it (and presumably recommended rejection).

The Trenberth et al text continues

Friday that truth became apparent. Kevin Trenberth received a personal note of apology from both the editor-in-chief and the publisher of Remote Sensing. Wagner took this unusual and admirable step after becoming aware of the paper’s serious flaws. By resigning publicly in an editorial posted online, Wagner hopes that at least some of this damage can be undone.

My Comment:

My son has posted on this (see). I agree; for Kevin Trenberth to receive an apology is quite bizarre.

Their text continues

Unfortunately this is not the first time the science conducted by Roy Spencer and colleagues has been found lacking.

Spencer, a University of Alabama, Huntsville, climatologist, and his colleagues have a history of making serious technical errors in their effort to cast doubt on the seriousness of climate change. Their errors date to the mid-1990s, when their satellite temperature record reportedly showed the lower atmosphere was cooling. As obvious and serious errors in that analysis were made public, Spencer and Christy were forced to revise their work several times and, not surprisingly, their findings agree better with those of other scientists around the world: the atmosphere is warming.

My Comment:

This statement of the history is a fabrication and is an ad hominem attack.  The errors in their analysis were all minor and were identified as soon as found. Such corrections are a normal part of the scientific process as exemplified recently in the finding of a substantial error in the ERA-40 reanalysis;

Screen, James A., Ian Simmonds, 2011: Erroneous Arctic Temperature Trends in the ERA-40 Reanalysis: A Closer Look. J. Climate, 24, 2620–2627. doi: 10.1175/2010JCLI4054.1.

My direct experience with the UAH-MSU data analysis has been over more than a decade. I will share two examples here of the rigor with which they assess and correct, when needed, their analyses.

First, at one of the  CCSP 1.1 committee meetings that I attended  [for the report Temperature Trends in the Lower Atmosphere: Steps for Understanding and Reconciling Differences (in Chicago)],  an error was brought to the attention of Roy Spencer and John Christy by the lead investigators of the RSS MSU project (Mears and Wentz).

The venue at which this error was brought up (in our committee meeting) was a clear attempt to discredit John and Roy’s research as we sat around the table. Roy found a fix within a few minutes, and concluded it was minor. This fix was implemented when he returned to Alabama.

When I saw how this “exposure” of an error was presented (in front of all of us, instead of in private via e-mail or phone call), I became convinced that a major goal of this committee (under the leadership of Tom Karl) was to discredit them. I told John this at a break right after this occurred. At a later meeting (in December 2008),

Protecting The IPCC Turf – There Are No Independent Climate Assessments Of The IPCC WG1 Report Funded And Sanctioned By The NSF, NASA Or The NRC.

I explicitly saw Tom Karl disparage the Christy and Spencer research.

In order to further examine the robustness of the Christy and Spencer analyses, in 2006 I asked Professor Ben Herman, who is an internationally well-respect expert in atmospheric remote sensing, to examine the Christy and Spencer UAH MSU  and the Wentz and Mears RSS MSU data analyses.   He worked with a student to do this and completed the following study

Randall, R. M., and B. M. Herman (2007), Using Limited Time Period Trends as a Means to Determine Attribution of Discrepancies in Microwave Sounding Unit Derived Tropospheric Temperature Time Series, J. Geophys. Res., doi:10.1029/2007JD008864

which includes the finding that

“Comparison of MSU data with the reduced Radiosonde Atmospheric Temperature Products for Assessing Climate radiosonde data set indicates that RSS’s method (use of climate model) of determining diurnal effects is likely overestimating the correction in the LT channel. Diurnal correction signatures still exist in the RSS LT time series and are likely affecting the long-term trend with a warm bias.”

The robustness of the UAH MSU [the Christy and Spencer analysis] is summarized in the text

“Figure 5 shows that 10-year trends center on the mid-1994’s through 10 year trends centered on the mid-1995’s indicates the RSS−Sonde trends are significantly different from zero where the Sonde−UAH trends are not. In addition, for 10-year trends centered on late-1999 through 10- years trend centered on early 2000 the RSS−Sonde trends are significantly different from zero where Sonde−UAH are marginally not. Another key feature in the RSS−Sonde series is the rapid departure in trend magnitude from trends centered on 1995 through trends centered on late-1999 where the Sonde−UAH magnitude in trends is nearly constant. These features are consistent with the diurnal correction signatures previously discussed. These findings [in] the RSS method for creating the diurnal correction (use of a climate model) is [the] cause for discrepancies between RSS and UAH databases in the LT channel.”

The latest Trenberth et al article is a continuation of this ad hominem effort to discredit John Christy and Roy Spencer.

The Trenberth et al article continues

Over the years, Spencer and Christy developed a reputation for making serial mistakes that other scientists have been forced to uncover. Last Thursday, for instance, the Journal of Geophysical Research – Atmospheres published a study led by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory climate scientist Ben Santer. Their findings showed that Christy erred in claiming that recent atmospheric temperature trends are not replicated in models.

This trend continues: On Tuesday the journal Geophysical Research Letters will publish a peer-reviewed study by Texas A&M University atmospheric scientist Andrew Dessler that undermines Spencer’s arguments about the role of clouds in the Earth’s energy budget.

We only wish the media would cover these scientific discoveries with similar vigor and enthusiasm that they displayed in tackling Spencer’s now-discredited findings.

My Comment:

Roy Spencer is hardly discredited because there are papers that disagree with his analysis and conclusions.  This will sort itself out in the peer-reviewed literature after he has an opportunity to respond with a follow on paper, and/or a Comment/Reply exchange.  Similarly, John Christy can respond to the Santer et al paper that is referred to in the Trenberth et al article.

What is disturbing, however, in the Trenberth et al article is its tone and disparagement of two outstanding scientists. Instead of addressing the science issues, they resort to statements such as Spencer and Christy making “serial mistakes”.  This is truly a hatchet job and will only further polarize the climate science debate

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Tom Holmes
September 5, 2011 5:53 pm

“And that generates a couple of questions: Why did it take the three of them? Do they lack opinions individually, but have them collectively?. And what happened, did RealClimate with its much greater reach pass on posting their opinion?”
It is axiomatic within popular climate science that numbers equal credibility. Therefore, three cranks are three times more credible than one crank. If you really want to prove something silly you’ll need a whole lot of cranks.

September 5, 2011 5:58 pm

Does anyone have Dressler’s rebut? I’m begging for it!!! A month? Hahhahahh!!
If it gets published, that’s the final nail. ……. I’m a layman, but if it gets published tomorrow, I will, or anyone else familiar with the discussion, smoke it. I pray that it gets published.

Mike
September 5, 2011 6:05 pm

Is falsely accusing someone of libel libel?

Bart
September 5, 2011 6:18 pm

Rational Observer says:
September 5, 2011 at 3:28 pm
“Do you actually think that the US National Academy of Sciences and its many counterparts around the world are part of a vast conspiracy to hype climate science?”
This is the logical fallacy known as “appeal to incredulity.” Stage magicians posing as mind readers use it to great effect. They pull a presumed random person out of the audience and have him assure them that he and the magician have never met, and then the magician reveals amazing secrets about him. Of course, they have not only met, but carefully rehearsed the act. Yet, the audience falls for it every time because, you know, the guy just couldn’t have lied about it.
Yes, I believe a mass collusion is quite possible, even likely.
Conspiracy is really not the right word, though. Conspiracy implies thoughtful and malignant planning. Herd mentality is closer to the mark. The members follow the leaders in order to benefit from the safety in numbers conferred by being in the herd.
This is hardly an outrageous proposal. Group Dynamics and the psychology of crowds have been actively investigated for well over a century. The 20th century witnessed the greatest propagation of mass delusion in the history of mankind, with the rise of Naziism, Fascism, and Communism, which led directly to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. If the entire, highly educated nation of Germany could fall head over heels in adoration of a psychopath like Adolf Hitler, how can you imagine that a relatively minor meeting of minds in the world’s scientific establishments, uniting them in a common cause, is outside the realm of possibility?

Chris D.
September 5, 2011 6:24 pm

In re: what Kip Hansen says:
September 5, 2011 at 9:53 am
I would speculate that the link is UVA Charlottesville. Perform a search within this comment thread for Charlottesville. Maybe an old pal network but just guessing.

SethP
September 5, 2011 6:28 pm

Jer0me says:
September 5, 2011 at 4:24 am
But where are the trolls today, I have to ask……..?
—————————————————–
Right now? Flooding Dr. Curry’s site while she is traveling and unable to police it.
http://judithcurry.com/2011/09/05/update-on-spencer-braswell-part-ii/

Bart
September 5, 2011 6:28 pm

Rational Observer says:
September 5, 2011 at 3:28 pm
“Do you actually think that the US National Academy of Sciences and its many counterparts around the world are part of a vast conspiracy to hype climate science?”
This is the logical fallacy known as “appeal to incredulity.” Stage magicians posing as mind readers use it to great effect. They pull a presumed random person out of the audience and have him assure them that he and the magician have never met, and then the magician reveals amazing secrets about him. Of course, they have not only met, but carefully rehearsed the act. Yet, the audience falls for it every time because, you know, the guy just couldn’t have lied about it.
Yes, I believe a mass collusion is quite possible, even likely.
Conspiracy is really not the right word, though. Conspiracy implies thoughtful and malignant planning. Herd mentality is closer to the mark. The members follow the leaders in order to benefit from the safety in numbers conferred by being in the herd.
This is hardly an outrageous proposal. Group Dynamics and the psychology of crowds have been actively investigated for well over a century.
The 20th century witnessed the greatest propagation of mass delusion in the history of mankind, with the rise of Na*iism, Fa*cism, and Co*munism, which led directly to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. If the entire, highly educated nation of Germany could fall head over heels in adoration of a psychopath like A**lf Hi**er, how can you imagine that a relatively minor meeting of minds in the world’s scientific establishments, uniting them in a common cause, is outside the realm of possibility?
(I had to put asterisks in to bypass the spam filter – I’m certainly not equating the climate establishment with Na**s, just highlighting the ne plus ultra argument against the idea that mass blocks of otherwise reasonable people cannot find themselves acting in unison with ultimately destructive disposition.)

TRM
September 5, 2011 6:36 pm

I’ve always respected Einstein for the reason that he could differ from Bohr and others and try to disprove their ideas and explain his latest thought experiment to them on walks sometimes. He would accept that he was wrong and try again to figure things out.
It is said on his 70th birthday he made this quote: “You think I sit here in calm satisfaction looking at my life’s work but I do not see a single thing that will stand. I may not have been on the right track after all”.
That my friends takes balls. Disagree with the man, the person or his science but you got to respect that constant looking for answers and never giving up. If he was on the wrong track it has been one hell of an interesting and educating detour!

Bill Hunter
September 5, 2011 7:01 pm

When one considers that it has not significantly warmed for 10 years and Trenberth has absolutely no idea where the missing heat is. . . .I suppose ad hominems was his only recourse to a paper that in effect simply states the facts.

Andrew30
September 5, 2011 7:06 pm

Amoorhouse says: September 5, 2011 at 12:33 pm
[ He just stands holding the bulb in the socket and the whole world revolves around him.]
Not possible, their models indicate that there is no ice at the North Pole, so there is nothing for them to stand on. If they tried to provide any real illumination they would be sunk.

RACookPE1978
Editor
September 5, 2011 7:21 pm

Andrew30 says:
September 5, 2011 at 7:06 pm

Amoorhouse says: September 5, 2011 at 12:33 pm
[ He just stands holding the bulb in the socket and the whole world revolves around him.]

How many climate scientists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None. They do not realize they are standing in the dark yet.

TomRude
September 5, 2011 7:32 pm

OT: did anyone see the Axe commercial :’the world is facing an unprecedented challenge, girls are getting hotter and hotter… etc”. Clearly the joke is on the Global warming alarmism. That shows these guys are now the butt of jokes in mainstream commercials.

A dood
September 5, 2011 7:36 pm

jeez says on September 5, 2011 at 12:34 am
Here’s the big Kahuna behind Daily Climate.
John Peterson Myers
Look at this guy’s twitter feed and decide if you think the Daily Climate is run by someone with a particular political bent. Kinda hard to tell! /sarc
https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/petemyers

Duster
September 5, 2011 7:39 pm

Rational Observer says:
September 5, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Wow. You all live in an echo chamber that is devoid of scientific rigor. Do you actually think that the US National Academy of Sciences and its many counterparts around the world are part of a vast conspiracy to hype climate science?

No, not all of us. It is fairly clear looking at Trenberth’s “travesty” email that he sincerely believes that CO2 is making the climate warmer. However, none of the modelers addressed in the email could find the “missing heat.” Weirdly, rather than examine the theory for error, Trenberth blames the data. Look up the email and read it if you doubt that. Spencer and Braswell suggest that it may never have been there to begin with.
You don’t need a conspiracy, just economics. Money for research is always in short supply in any scientific field. If a researcher or researchers open up a new facet in a field that offers apparent opportunities for early investors to profit, or much worse, for politicians to shine as they advance regulations to “protect” us, and even worse to establish bureaus and increase funding for them, several things happen: venture capital moves in hoping for a big win; politicians, usually (but not always) democrats these days, bring “urgent” legislation to vote; agencies charged with or created to implement the regulations that derive from the legislation, increase in size and become more important “cost centers.” All of this translates into more funding for the right scientists. Government and private grants, spin-off research, start-ups, IPOs, beefed up employment of trained researchers and experts all mean more money.
Compounding this are sincere if not entirely competent researchers who were trained in an era of Post-Modern scientific “responsibility” rather than integrity, and politically correct “precautionary” action – AND – whose research budgets just geometrically increased in size. The damage “Spencer’s science” does is call this all into question.

They all take this seriously. Most scientists who are qualified to engage in climate science discussions take this seriously. Spencer and Christy have committed serial errors in their science. Look at yourselves and see who the bully is. Trenberth et al. pointed a spotlight on errors in Spencer and Christy’s work, and you chose to respond with attacks devoid of substance but full of name calling.

Trenberth et al. did not point out ANY errors in Spencer and *Braswell’s* work. Worse, Christy was not an author, so including him is very likely libelous. If you read Christy’s comment above, you will note that he discusses those errors, their discovery and correction. The use of the term “serial” by T. et al. is demonization, a peculiarly vile and virulent form of “name calling.” It evokes associations with serial killers, rapists and similar social monsters.

KevinK
September 5, 2011 7:41 pm

Indur M. Goklany wrote;
“Applying Occam’s Razor to the Missing Heat Problem — perhaps there is no missing heat.”
IMHO Exactly Correct, the “missing heat” is in fact propagating away from the Earth as a spherical infrared wavefront that is exactly X + D light years away at this instant in time. X represents the elapsed time since the heat arrived as sunlight (100 light years for the sunlight arriving back in 1911). D represents the slight delay introduced by several quick side trips as backradiation. D is in units of light-milliseconds and a proper unit conversion is necessary when summing it with the light-years.
Each time the heat takes a side trip back towards the surface more than 50% is lost to space. So after as little as 10 trips as backradiation the missing heat is much less than 1% of the arriving heat. The units of light-milliseconds (a unit of distance) reflects the observation that light energy travels at the speed of light and can go from the surface to the top of the atmosphere in a few milliseconds.
Crazy huh ?
Cheers, Kevin.

KevinK
September 5, 2011 7:57 pm

Rational Observer wrote;
“Wow. You all live in an echo chamber that is devoid of scientific rigor. Do you actually think that the US National Academy of Sciences and its many counterparts around the world are part of a vast conspiracy to hype climate science?”
I for one (I do not speak for others) have not offered any “vast conspiracy” thoughts on this blog.
However I am aware of NUMEROUS historic examples where the widely accepted “consensus” turned out to be completely WRONG;
1) Stomach Ulcers are caused by stress and spicy foods
2) Lobotomies’ are an effective treatment for mental health problems (FYI the “doctor” who “perfected” the lobotomy operation won a Nobel Prize, I bet Mr. Nobel was PROUD of that one)
3) Cold Fusion exists in our laboratory
4) Filling aluminum cans with people inside with pure oxygen (ie early Apollo designs) is a good decision
5) Etc
6) Etc
The list is very very long and includes that whole “who revolves around whom” thing regarding the Sun and the Earth.
Following the scientific method does indeed lead to enhanced knowledge of how things work.
Relying on consensus and demeaning the character of those that disagree are sure signs of a failed hypothesis that rightly belongs in the dustbin of history. Hopefully blogs like these will help to accelerate the final arrival at that destination.
Cheers, Kevin.

Paul Vaughan
September 5, 2011 8:00 pm

Judith Curry writes:
“JC conclusion: […] This is not the way to do it, and this kind of behavior, particularly from […] who is in a position of responsibility at a government lab […] will backfire on them.”
Say it with a song:
“So now you’d better STOP and rebuild all your ruin.
Peace & trust can win the day despite all your losin’.”

— Led Zeppelin

Drew
September 5, 2011 8:07 pm

The points summarised from the dailyclimate article:
1. Firstly, the main crux and premise for their outrage is that they believe the science doesn’t hold up.
2. The responsibility of the authors are to give significant resistance to their premise i.e. observational data does not fit with models. This was shirked by allowing publishing in another journal, for Geography. This doesn’t allow the rope building knowledge that is accumulated by experts in the field in which it allows for fundamental concepts such as, sensitivity and internal feedbacks descriptions, which are which? What methods were used, are they practical given the discussion, conclusion? Have alternate studies have been conducted which may refute this study — is the study able to better answer questions that others have not addressed? To be accurately described and logically assessed, it may not be required that the field itself give it a pass mark, but if doesn’t provide something substantial, or serious errors are found, or it is overly-simplistic, then it seems to be a prominent issue that skeptical science is born out of being contrairian, because it isn’t skeptical of something which supports its own mindset.
3. The idea that Spencer and Christy provided valuable insight is somewhat inhibited by the fact that they came to counter conclusions to the general community of climate scientists, attempting to show global cooling in satellite data. This was then shown to contain serious error. To then claim that there’s more counter evidence, in that models do not adequately reflect the current temperatures, is to deny a substantive reply from other scientists who have a vast base of knowledge in the area. This helps to elevate the paper into accounting for more than it’s own minutae from specialists in this area, and doesn’t give it a tick of approval just because it is ‘technically correct’. This is the most aggravating issue, that without knowledge of what is already known, you can’t adequately evaluate whether this research elevates knowledge, or if it flies in the face of what has already been shown in many other lines of evidence.
The vitriol regarding how they are ‘attacked’ because the science is not settled has totally thrown me from being skeptical, into having to go uncover what is actually written in the Spencer and Christy paper. I don’t believe the responses are warranted from what appears to be passive and composed responses by people who do believe a case for CO2 has summarily accounted for the scientific issues addressed in this paper.

Werner Brozek
September 5, 2011 8:08 pm

Perhaps Wolfgang Wagner needs to consult with Rajendra K. Pachauri on how to keep a job in this business. On the other hand, perhaps I can give some pointers as well on what sort of things are important and what will be overlooked. According to http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7026932.ece
the following paragraph appears:
“In an interview with The Times Robert Watson said that all the errors exposed so far in the report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) resulted in overstatements of the severity of the problem.”

KevinK
September 5, 2011 8:09 pm

Rational Observer wrote;
“Wow. You all live in an echo chamber that is devoid of scientific rigor. Do you actually think that the US National Academy of Sciences and its many counterparts around the world are part of a vast conspiracy to hype climate science?”
I for one (I do not speak for others) have not offered any “vast conspiracy” thoughts on this blog.
However I am aware of NUMEROUS historic examples where the widely accepted “consensus” turned out to be completely WRONG;
1) Stomach Ulcers are caused by stress and spicy foods
2) Lobotomies’ are an effective treatment for mental health problems (FYI the “doctor” who “perfected” the lobotomy operation won a Nobel Prize, I bet Mr. Nobel was PROUD of that one)
3) Cold Fusion exists in our laboratory
4) Filling aluminum cans with people inside with pure oxygen (ie early Apollo designs) is a good idea
The list is very very long and includes that whole “who revolves around whom” thing regarding the Sun and the Earth.
Following the scientific method does indeed lead to enhanced knowledge of how things work.
Relying on consensus and demeaning the character of those that disagree are sure signs of a failed hypothesis that rightly belongs in the dustbin of history. Hopefully blogs like these will help to accelerate the final arrival at that destination.
Cheers, Kevin.

pokerguy
September 5, 2011 8:21 pm

“Whilst I shouldn’t feel sorry for Trenberth, given the brutality of attacks by his ilk on other scientists, I do. He had a career, he had a bright future. He used to be sought after for advice from the highest officials of many countries. They are now fighting a desperate rear guard action trying … rather like the Nazi’s desperately cobbled together units of boys and old men, and shot any that refused, so the climate “Reich” is desperate to stop their reputation haemorrhaging and is clearly bringing huge pressure on any and every editor to “tow the line of doomsday global warming”.
I have the same ambivalent feelings. These are not happy men. They face professional ruin which is a form of annihilation as far as the id is concerned. Of course they’re full of rage; it’s a perfectly predictable response.
That said, there’s another part of me that yearns for their comeuppance. They’re doing so much damage, that it’s really rather unforgivable.

R.S.Brown
September 5, 2011 9:12 pm

I know there’s something going on…
The Richard Black piece wrote for thw BBC covering the resignation of Wolfgang
Wagner from his post as Editor-in-Chief of the journal Remote Sensing
missed the fact that Herr Professor Wagner retains his full time tenured position
(day job) with the Vienna University of Technology.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-envionment-14768574
Over the weekend Mr. Black’s write-up made it as a hit to the 5th “Most Popular”
story on the entire BBC News online web site. Now, on early Tuesday morning,
Mr. Black’s story doesn’t even make it to the top 5 stories under the “Enivronmental”
section when you scroll down and click on that link. It’s gone as in
demoted to online obscurity.
If fact, when you look at Mr. Black’s list of recently authored material he takes
or is given credit for on the BBC site at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/correspondents/richardblack
it’s not there either.
There’s something going on…

R.S.Brown
September 5, 2011 9:18 pm

Sigh…
I do so hate not being able to use paste on WUWT any more.
The link to the original Richard Black BBC story should have been:
http://www.bb.co.uk/news/science-environment-14768571
I inadvertantly popped a space between bbc and .co in the link.
Nap time.

September 5, 2011 9:20 pm

LOL,
The “Team” has been so terrified of a science paper.That they are babbling all over the place.To the point of possibly libeling someone not even an author of the science paper.
That for me indicate just how low they regard science research as being a necessary medium for advancing the understanding of the subject matter.After all it does not fit with their climate propaganda.
If the paper was truly bad.It would die all by itself in time.But their reactions to the paper they believe is really really bad.Makes no sense.Since it would be normally ignored by most of the rank and file scientists.Therefore deep down they KNOW it is a good science paper,that contradicts what they believe in.
That is why they are going overboard in their pathetic attempt to demonize the paper and the people who produced it.
Their behavior is clearly anti science.

Mac the Knife
September 5, 2011 9:21 pm

How many climate psychologists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Only one…. but that damn incandescent bulb really has to want to change!
Remember when a ‘swirly’ was not a light bulb… and not a pleasant way to get your hair washed at all?!