From Rasmussen Reports, some bad news for Al Gore and the Hockey Team:
The debate over global warming has intensified in recent weeks after a new NASA study was interpreted by skeptics to reveal that global warming is not man-made. While a majority of Americans nationwide continue to acknowledge significant disagreement about global warming in the scientific community, most go even further to say some scientists falsify data to support their own beliefs.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of American Adults shows that 69% say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs, including 40% who say this is Very Likely. Twenty-two percent (22%) don’t think it’s likely some scientists have falsified global warming data, including just six percent (6%) say it’s Not At All Likely. Another 10% are undecided.
(To see survey question wording, click here .)
The number of adults who say it’s likely scientists have falsified data is up 10 points from December 2009 .
Fifty-seven percent (57%) believe there is significant disagreement within the scientific community on global warming, up five points from late 2009. One in four (25%) believes scientists agree on global warming. Another 18% aren’t sure.
Republicans and adults not affiliated with either major political party feel stronger than Democrats that some scientists have falsified data to support their global warming theories, but 51% of Democrats also agree.
Men are more likely than women to believe some scientists have put out false information on the issue.
Democrats are more likely to support immediate action on global warming compared to those from other party affiliations.
The national survey of 1,000 Adults was conducted on July 29-30, 2011 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC . See methodology .
Voters have been almost evenly divided on whether human activity or long-term planetary trends are to blame for global warming since May of last year .
Full story here at: Rasmussen Reports
h/t to Jer at Skeptics Corner (click and give him some hits)
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I want to know what is wrong with the 31% who don’t know that the “scientists” are fudging the data.
“Democrats are more likely to support immediate action on global warming compared to those from other party affiliations.”
So socialists are more naive than the rest of us? No! Say it ain’t so!
It’s OK to make that speculation (I guess.) — but don’t you have to know the truth before you can formulate a lie? Or are some people (some climate scientists anyway) “just making stuff up” — as Steve McIntyre has recently speculated….
Well, they should model it to see if it jives. The real survey should be taken of Scientists, to see if the much vaunted consensus exists. I doubt that it does, no denyin’ it. What this survey would seem to indicate is that people are getting fed up with the ongoing alarmism with no outcome…and that’s a fact!
🙂
Did anyone correlate responses with whether the respondents were Creationists or Darwinists?
posted this story twice under ice posting today. BTW what is really significant is that from what I can tell Google is suppressing this story under news “climate” or “global warming”, even “Rasmussen climate etc” doesn’t bring it up. This would be extremely distressful to Climate Team. I’m sure the team is on the phone to their pals at google to stifle this urgently.
So many thoughts about this, but definitely it’s worse than we thought…
WillR says:
“It’s OK to make that speculation (I guess.) — but don’t you have to know the truth before you can formulate a lie? Or are some people (some climate scientists anyway) “just making stuff up” — as Steve McIntyre has recently speculated….”
Will, Steve McIntyre didn’t “speculate.” When the Climategate emails were leaked, a file named “Harry_read_me” was also leaked. The programmer admitted fabricating many years of temperautre data:
“Here, the expected 1990 – 2003 period is missing so the correlations aren’t so hot!
Yet the WMO codes and station names /locations are identical (or close).
What the hell is supposed to happen here?
Oh, yeah – there is no ‘supposed’, I can make it up. So I have.”
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of American Adults shows that 69% say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs,
Alternate headline: 31% Still Living in the Dark
It’s not naivete as much as it is that entire side of the political spectrum threw their weight into this endeavor. It’s was going to be a grand reason to unify world politics under centralized controls for the salvation of humanity. It would be very hard for anyone to abandon all that political effort regardless of what their rationality may (or may not) be saying to them.
In order to restore sanity to both political parties in this matter, large short-term variability in spite of any of mans activities, will have to be demonstrated. That may be coming.
“You Reap What You Sow”
This perception is the outcome of years of obfuscation. If climate organisations such as UEA/CRU continue with their present policy of out and out obfuscation then the 69% can only go one way.
In the UK the same applies to politicians, if they continue to obfuscate about the amount of green taxes that are hidden in energy bills, the trust level will fall further.
Mind, with UK politicians and UEA/CRU a further fall in trust maybe very difficult!
And I used to be proud of my country
There you have it, Ladies and Gentlemen, the well-deserved reputation of research scientists has been trashed by the Warmista. Al Gore, can you hear me? This is one of the truly evil things that your contributions to science have helped bring about.
Isn’t it ironic that in the USA 69% of respondents say that malfeasance by scientists is possible yet their children who attend public schools are fed the garbage produced by Warmista on a daily basis? I guess it goes to prove that parents have no say in the operation of the public schools.
well….it could be interesting to do political forecasts ..that s all.
Dermot O’Logical says: August 3, 2011 at 2:59 pm
[Did anyone correlate responses with whether the respondents were Creationists or Darwinists?]
Darwin was a Creationist.
Darwin only concluded that Natural Selection was responsible for the development of species in to how they appear today. He did not accept the Bible as a historically accurate record but he never speculated or proposed a conjecture as to the origin of the laws of the universe; he maintained that God was the ultimate lawgiver.
So if you want to re-phrase that irrelevant and divisive question, I would suggest the following
Did anyone correlate responses with whether the respondents were Static Creationists (like the Pope) or Evolutionary Creationists (like Darwin)?
WillR says:
August 3, 2011 at 2:58 pm
“It’s OK to make that speculation (I guess.) — but don’t you have to know the truth before you can formulate a lie?”
WillR, please. Lying is deceiving (or attempting to deceive) another about what you know or believe to be the case. You can lie about your fantasies.
Anyone who has heard of “back to 1400 censored” would vote ‘100% likely’ on #5, the lie question.
I followed one of those 28% home today……
…they can’t drive either
Let’s be clear about this:
W know, with 100% percent certainty that som so called ‘climate scientist’ are faking, massaging or torturing their data. To show what they want it to show.
That doesn’t mean that 100% or 69% of them fake their data, or that 69% of the data is wrong. It merely says that the assessments are tainted, and towards the warmist’s side.
Also know, that this is used as a diversion tactic. Whenever a faulty data set unravels, the counter-claim is: This hardly matters at all in the grand and global scheme of things. Combined with all the other data, this difference is hardly visible.
This decline cannot be hidden – no tricks Mike.
You can fool some of the people – all of the time [grauniad NYT readers, RS + British Politicians, John Beddington and G Moanbot], you can fool all of the people – some of the time……………………… but you can’t fool us all – all of the time. And some people just won’t be fooled by fools.
69% … Looks like a consensus to me!
Its not creationists I worry about. Its socialists intent on bankrupting the country and making the poor and middle class pay way more for electricity and heating than they need to be. Thereby in effect adding another tax to the already horrid tax burden.
If rich socialists want to pay more and can afford more, let them donate money to the power companies instead of Obama’s re-election campaign.
I think the Dunning-Kruger effect applies to climate science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
“Rasmussen poll: 69% Say It’s Likely Scientists Have Falsified Global Warming Research”
Whoa!
I’m actually in the majority on something!
🙂
Seriously –
I would not be surprised to find that the majority of those polled by Rasmussen did not get their opinion from a scientist, but from the journalists, politicians, activists, etc. that shape opinions.
Even so, that makes the results of this poll more surprising.
This isn’t just bad news for Al et al, it is bad for all of science. The alarmist are responsible, probably none more than Jim Hanson.