Friends, prepare yourselves for this stunning collection of logic, green thinking, and simple unvarnished, outright hatred. Should we be thinking about getting ourselves off to secure locations in light of this? /sarc
Simon from Australian Climate Madness makes note of this from the Herald Sun, which is complicit (and editorially bankrupt) in printing this article from Jill Singer.
First, some stunning logic rationalization about the shame merits of lying to get to office:
Prime Minister Julia Gillard, as has been widely noted, misled our nation by declaring she wouldn’t introduce such a tax. The worst that can be said is that she lied. The best that can be said is that she lied because we can’t deal with the truth.
O-kaaaayyy……but this really takes the cake.
I’m prepared to keep an open mind and propose another stunt for climate sceptics – put your strong views to the test by exposing yourselves to high concentrations of either carbon dioxide or some other colourless, odourless gas – say, carbon monoxide.
You wouldn’t see or smell anything. Nor would your anti-science nonsense be heard of again. How very refreshing.
That’s some seriously ugly thinking lady.
I suppose Ms. Singer is justifying these thoughts as many do on the grounds of that favorite of noble cause corruption: save the planet. I’ll bet she thinks she’s being clever, even if harsh and naziesque.
Sorry, another angry green beat you to it years ago and I have dibs on it. It all started simply, when she called me a “WMD” for discussing my doubts about AGW:
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Take some responsibility
Chico Enterprise-Record
Article Launched: 05/22/2007 12:00:00 AM PDT
Anthony Watts seems to be a poster boy for right-wing ideology. This isn’t a distinction that one should be proud of considering the so-called “right” seem to be wrong on almost every issue. Even after hundreds of the world’s top scientists have documented that global warming has in fact been caused by the actions of man, he states that this is not true, that it is a natural occurrence. Just looking at Chico’s polluted skies tells me otherwise.
It seems that Republicans in general have a hard time taking responsibility for anything. The war in Iraq, brought to you by the lies of this illegitimate administration has been a horrendous mistake costing the lives of over 4,000 Americans if you include private contractors and over 650,000 Iraqi civilians. Most Republicans still believe there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I’ve come to believe that Republicans, especially people like Anthony Watts, are the WMDs.
— Sherri Quammen, Chico
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My response on my blog: (since I didn’t think it merited a letter to the editor response)
Fine Me
My friends at coffee this morning got a huge laugh out of Chico Peace and Justice Center member Sherri Quammen’s claim in a vitriol filled letter to the editor that I’m the “real WMD”.
For somebody who professes “peace and justice”, she sure seems to have a lot of anger to vent. She’s sent letters to all three newspapers, the ER, Chico Beat, and you’ll see the same letter come Thursday at the Chico News and Review I’m sure. Lately, the message of “peace on earth” seems to have lost the accessory clause of “goodwill towards men”. Though its hard to tell through her rant just what she dislikes about me most, it appears that my views and research into climate change must be the main factor.
I sent her a nice note last week, offering to meet and get acquainted over coffee or tea someday, (since we’ve never met) after the letter appeared in the Chico Beat, so far no response.
But that’s OK, being a public person, criticism comes with the territory. It’s an occupational hazard. I guess I should be honored that my threat level has been elevated. Poor Al Gore takes all sorts of flak daily.
Sooo….since I’ve been labeled a WMD, I think that I’ll have to look over my shoulder a lot to make sure I’m not being followed by police officers intent on giving me a ticket in case I go off in the Chico city limits. That’s a $500 fine you know.
To make it easier for people to spot me, I think I’ll get a T-shirt that says simply “BOOM”.
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And to that blog post, this is how she responded (emphasis mine):
Chico Enterprise-Record (Chico, CA)
July 1, 2007 Don’t deny the obvious
Author: Chico Enterprise-Record Section: Letters To The Editor
On his blog site, Anthony Watts states that my remarks in a letter to the editor did not seem that “peaceful” and since I am involved with the Peace and Justice Center I should display a “goodwill to man.” He’s right about the fact that I am upset about the current state of our nation under the corporate crooks in the White House and how it’s affecting our planet, because unlike him, I am paying attention.
Watts seems to enjoy researching this mysterious phenomenon called “global warming” that could bring not only human but all existence on this planet to extinction. So here’s a little research Watts can try at home. First, park his (most likely very large) car or SUV in his garage. Then close the door and start the engine. Sit there for a few hours and then (if he is still able) he can make an entry on his blog contemplating the effects of car exhaust on people in enclosed areas (like our atmosphere).
Why is it so important for this man and others like him to try and refute the obvious, shunning all responsibility for something that we are obviously responsible for? That is why I have labeled Watts a “WMD” which, especially in his case, could also stand for “weapon of mass deception.” — Sherri Quammen, Chico
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I didn’t bother responding to that letter.
Yeah I got the early dibs on angry irrational people suggesting I kill myself. It is such shame for eco-conscious people everywhere that this sort of ugliness continues to be represented by their brethren virtually identically today.
Andrew Bolt says that Lashing at sceptics does science no favour.
For the citizens of Australia who think that newspaper journalists should not be advocating the death of their neighbors simply because they have a different view on global warming, here is where you can complain, on her editorial page:
Jill Singer THE “debate” over a carbon tax in Australia has become high farce. It’s time for the game-playing to stop – on both sides of politics.
And also to the editor of the Herald Sun to demand an apology:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/help/contactus
I ask anyone lodging such a complaint to be respectful and don’t escalate. Stick to the issue at hand.
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I feel the Herald Sun is doing Australia a favour publishing the shrill and petulant shrieks of this vacuous woman. By exposing the bitter and hate filled rage of the warmists, the Herald Sun have no doubt won thousands over to the realist cause. Jill Singer suggesting that Australian voters need to be shamelessly lied to by our sad excuse for a prime minister because we “can’t handle the truth”, completely exposes the mindless arrogance of the Left. In these, the last days of the global warming hoax, I for one hope the Herald Sun and others give the likes of Jill Singer even more rope.
Those reading and viewing Australian media of late will be aware that this Ms Singer’s putrescent opinion piece is part of a recent pattern in “Progressive” behaviour. With the collapse of the global warming hoax inevitable, the Left are looking at political annihilation. They are becoming aware that anyone having used the language of vilification against sceptics is going to have their public or political career destroyed. In the age of the Internet the Left cannot erase the evidence of their wrong doing. What we are seeing now is a mad effort to crash or crash through. The Herald Sun is simply publishing the more entertaining bits.
In a sincere request to Sherri Quammen, Chico, respectfully Sherri…. please stop exhaling your personal planet destroying CO2. A grateful Gaia thanks you…..
Friends, prepare yourselves for this stunning collection of logic, green thinking, and simple unvarnished, outright hatred. Should we be thinking about getting ourselves off to secure locations in light of this? /sarc
ready when you are.
http://www.availabledatacenters.com/bunker/
Konrad says: June 21, 2011 at 11:03 pm
“The Herald Sun is simply publishing the more entertaining bits.”
No, they are paying Ms Singer to write them. Your Murdoch press at work.
Just read the comments on Ms Singer’s rant on the Herald Sun site. Of the 23 at least 20 were clearly skeptic (the others unclear but not supportive) so it appears that not all Aussies are as blind and crass.
If the replies to Ms Singer are anything to go by it seems she is on the wrong side of the argument.
If not already suggested, the re-joinder to such remarks, is that for those so fearful of generating carbon dioxide then “STOP BREATHING !!”
The link below is just a joke, of course.
I read someone above talking about “water intoxication”.
Well maybe you already know this web-site:
http://www.dhmo.org/
I suggest you to read the well done FAQ section.
Please note that the people who wrote there never lied about the DHMO effects, they just described them with vagueness. Just missing to write important details they transformed the probably most important chemical for life in a tremendous pollutant.
That’ s a great example of how anybody could drive ingenuous minds in one direction just by rhetoric writing.
I liked the bit about “… nor would your anti-science nonsense be heard of again…”.
Poor Jill, she thinks carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide are equivalents — well they both have deadly carbon in them don’t they?
OK …. hands up …. I did suggest something similar for “warmists”. I think it was along the lines of …
weren’t we all told not that long ago that we were heading for a nuclear winter by preciously the same groups who tell us we cannot stop the world heading for global warming? Do they doubt the power of nuclear weapons? May I make a suggestion … that we invite all those who believe that it is impossible to stop global warming to a small atoll somewhere remote and demonstrate to them first hand the power of nuclear weapons and thereby remove completely from the world all this nonsense hysteria about global warming.
Just in case any warmists are reading this, let me explain:
1. In the 1970s we were all told that a nuclear war would invariably lead to a nuclear winter causing a massive drop in temperatures etc. deaths, etc. due to all the particulates which would be flung into the atmosphere. (After the 1970s we saw a massive drop in particulates in the atmosphere due to clean air legislation and a rise in temperature. Coincidence?)
2.Now we are told that there is no way to reduce the world’s temperature … when a few decades away we were being told that it was impossible not to stop a massive drop in temperature if anyone used nuclear weapons.Either one is true and not the other, or neither is true!
3. It was customary to test nuclear weapons on small atolls … by suggesting “an isolated” atoll, it would be obvious to most people that the test and the atoll to which the warmists were being invited were one and the same.
4. One would hope that no one would be gullible enough to accept an invitation to watch a nuclear weapon first hand on an isolated atoll (a small island on which all life would be destroyed). However one would hope that no one was gullible enough to accept the nonsense on global warming … natural selection does tend to favour the less gullible … the moral of the story being: don’t be so gullible as to believe all the nonsense you are told!
WMD = Weather of Mass Destruction!
This helps to prove that for the loony left, its not about facts or reality. To them this is an ideological crusade, or in extreme cases a religion.
When your side doesn’t have facts or evidence, then bring out the final solution.
…put your strong views to the test by exposing yourselves to high concentrations of either carbon dioxide or some other colourless, odourless gas – say, carbon monoxide. … You wouldn’t see or smell anything.
One thing you might notice with CO before passing out (assuming you took no action to remedy the situation) is your fingernails turning bright red/pink and your skin going bright pink. Kenneth Branagh produced a drama for the BBC that made note of the fact, though I don’t believe that production made to the U.S. Some of our U.K. posters may have seen it.
As for CO2, the concentration in your lungs is a hundred times the atmospheric concentration. To get a really high concentration, Ms Singer hold her breath for two minutes and see if she notices anything. Colourless, odourless, and choking.
What I find most hilarious about her article is the “unscientific” views of sceptics when CAGW itself is profoundly anti-scientific. She likely has no clue how science works.
It’s become apparent that we’re not engaged in a scientific debate but rather a religious one. For radical environmentalists, their belief that humans are destroying “nature” has the characteristics of a functional religion. When one looks at these people as religious zealots, then it’s easy to see why nothing will change their mind. They are on a mission from Gaia to cleanse the earth of non-believers and the curse of technologic civilization. Thus, there is no point in arguing science with them as:
(a) they are profoundly ignorant of the scientific method and even basic scientific facts and
(b) nothing one says to them will change their mind.
The way to go after them is through legal means which utilize the principles of separation of church and state in all Western democracies. While I’m not sure on the details of how Australia handles religious disputes, I’m sure that there is no state religion in Australia and the principle of religious freedom holds. Environmentalists are monists and are especially in conflict with Christianity. This puts them in conflict with freedom of religion which is one of the rights Western countries have. After some reflection I’ve concluded that science is my functional religion and it’s a lot more versatile than an anti-scientific functional religion.
By embracing environmentalism and CAGW, politicians are violating the separation of church and state that is fundamental to Western civilization and perhaps someone with legal expertise could figure out how one could take politicians to court over CAGW. The other place in society where religion supposedly has no place is in public education. Teaching CAGW should be looked at as religious education and the thus should be banned or made optional for parents who dont want their children to be exposed to unscientific religions. Again, another place where legal challenges are appropriate.
What is most hilarious about the environmentalist religion is that the assumption of the anthropocentric nature of Christianity which it regards as evil. None of the environmentalist zealots seem to be aware that their “religion” is just as anthropocentric as Christianity in that it views humanity as a “virus” or some form of parasite on nature. If they were logical they would realize that humans are a part of the ecosystem and hence technology is natural. Religions are rife with internal contradictions which are ignored by the true believers.
Watch out for Nick Stokes above, cherry picking longterm average temps for melbourne(0ne city out of three I mentioned)…in an attempt to undermine a fairly uncontroversial statement. Hmnnn where have I seen THAT before! But I will refine my statement to accomodate Nick’s delicate warmist sensibilities.
“It’s bloody cold in Australia at the moment…Alice Springs ‘sub zero record’…Northern Queensland 5 degrees C two nights ago…prolonged cold cloud, wet weather in the Urban heartlands of the Greenies.”
There Nick Stokes, disagree with that!
I’m sure Nick will try to undermine that statement too…and that may make him feel better…but it doesn’t counter the perception of most australians that it’s bloody cold…
I am an Evangelising skeptic…everywhere my work takes me I do my bit to counter the AGW Faith.
And I’ve noticed the change in attitude amongst the general population.
Why are we being asked to pay a carbon tax to stop the world getting hotter..when it’s bloody cold?
That’s the question on everyone’s lips.
Ignore the likes of Nick Stokes…he’s seriously out of touch!
This episode spilled over into Wikipedia. Singer’s page received the following addition.
> In 2011, Singer advocated that people sceptical of the link between Carbon Dioxide and Global Warming be gassed with Carbon Monoxide.
The paragraph has now been removed.
Makes you realize why they were transported to Australia in the first place.
A note to the sane majority of Australia- Vote Gillard out of office ASAP.
Just a quick note now that spring is over in the Northern Hemisphere; Vancouver, B.C. had its coldest spring ever recorded (54 years).
charles nelson says: June 22, 2011 at 1:34 am
“Watch out for Nick Stokes above, cherry picking longterm average temps for melbourne(0ne city out of three I mentioned)”
Charles, you said Ms Singer’s problem was recent cold weather. Ms Singer is located in Melbourne.
But if you think there’s been notable recent cold elsewhere, you should document it.
“In the 1970s we were all told that a nuclear war would invariably lead to a nuclear winter causing a massive drop in temperatures etc”
1983 is when Carl Sagan published “The Nuclear Winter”.
I grew up believing that for the sake of my future family, I should consider moving to the U.S.A. from my Canadian home to escape the oncoming glacial ice age, and the glacier that would lap my back door.
It is disturbing to read that many people are trying to relegate the idea of the belief of a coming ice age as just a few articles written in obscure magazines when I am living proof that this was not so, and the idea permeated throughout the MSM, so much so that, as I mentioned, I was considering trying to find a way to immigrate south.
Thank goodness Global Warming came along 😉
A problem here is that Ms Singer’s comments are so gross that a normal person isn’t quite sure what to say. Okay, there are lots of comments here, but is someone is prepared to take the debate beyond civil discourse, then that’s it. You can try to reel it back in, but trying to do so feels ineffective because it obviously is ineffective in some quarters, otherwise the comments wouldn’t have been published in the first place.
I suspect in her yoof MS Sherri Quammen was a member of the “Smash violence, kill the warmongers, be here Saturday man, we’re havin a Peace Riot!” brigade!!!! It’s always those who shout loudest who having some guilty secret or somesuch. Anti-Carbonists numbskulls, Carbon is about the 15th most common element in the Earth’s crust, the 4th most common element in the Universe, after Hydrogen, Helium, & Oxygen! It’s the most promiscuous element too with its covalent bonding abilities, marvelouus stuff! People like Ms Quammen are always either Communists, Nazis, anti-semitic, anti-colour, anti-Catholic, anti-Christian, anti-Muslim, anti-Hindu, anti-industry, anti-science, anti-anything in fact, just plane prejudiced, always looking for the next revolution, the cause is neither here nor there, it’s just the way they are! Oh, & what science did she present to support her viewpoint, other than a silly appeal to authority on numbers?
Charles, I live in Melbourne and have done so for 43 years. It is bloody cold. I can confirm that Nick Stokes is full of it. I know for a fact that the ALP and the Greens are recruiting trolls and trying to pose as crazy Climate Change Deniers in an attempt to make the 75% of the population who oppose the carbon tax look like they are crazy. I like you, I have become an evangelistic skeptic. I am writing letters galore and even helping a guy with an anti-carbon tax film. I tutor kids and I never miss an opportunity to to make the warmists look like idiots. The kids get it too.
Best just ignored…surely?