Skeptic Strategy for Talking About Global Warming

Guest Post by Ira Glickstein

What should a responsible Skeptic say to an astute audience? When recently invited by the “Technology, Engineering, and Science Plus” group in my community to give a talk and answer questions, I knew I would have an attentive room of tech-savvy professionals. However, they might not be fully tuned in to the details of the Global Warming controversy. Furthermore, they were likely to have opinions closer to the supposed “mainsteam science” orientation than mine.

In this posting, I’ve summarized the main points I think are most likely to align people who are both intelligent and reasonable to the Skeptic side. My Powerpoint (with talking points for each chart in the Notes section under each slide) is available [click here] for you to use and adapt as you wish.

Highlight scene from former VP Al Gore's Nobel and Oscar-winning movie, An Inconvenient Truth. Dramatic correlation between temperature and CO2 over past 600,000 years. Implication that global mean temperature rise will parallel CO2 increases. But, which way does the causation go? {Annotations by ira@techie.com, TVPClub.blogspot.com}

A. Basic Climate Science – Water vapor (H2O), carbon dioxide (CO2), and other “greenhouse” gases cause the Earth Surface to be warmer than it would be if the Atmosphere was just nitrogen.

  1. Light energy from the Sun warms the Earth System, which consists of our Atmosphere and the Surface. Based on satellite measurements, the Sun provides 1366 Watts per square meter (W/m^2) at the Top of the Atmosphere. After accounting for the Earth’s spherical shape and albedo (reflectiveness), the absorbed energy averages out to about 240 W/m^2 for each square meter.
  2. To maintain a relatively constant mean temperature, Output Energy must equal Input Energy, so the Earth System must emit about 240 W/m^2 out to Space, which it does.
  3. We call the Input Energy “light” because we can see (much of) it. We call the Output Energy “heat” because we can feel it. However, whether it is “short wave” energy from the very hot Sun, or “long wave” from the more moderate Earth System, we know that energy is fungible. 240 W/m^2 of one type is equal, power-wise, to 240 W/m^2 of the other. A Watt is a Watt, no matter what :^)
  4. But, there is an “issue” – if we consider the Earth System as a “black body”, according to the laws of physics, for the Earth System to emit 240 W/m^2, it would have to be at a temperature of only 255 Kelvin, where Kelvins are degrees Celsius above absolute zero. (The Earth System is not exactly a black body, but it is close enough for our purposes here.)
  5. You may remember that anything above absolute zero emits radiant energy and that 0.0 Kelvin corresponds to -273ºC or -460ºF. The “issue” is that the Earth Surface has a mean temperature closer to 288 Kelvin, corresponding to about +15ºC or +59ºF. In other words, the Surface is about 33ºC or 58ºF warmer than the “black body” formula would indicate. How to explain this added warmth?
  6. The generally accepted explanation is the Atmospheric “greenhouse effect”. This is true science, but the name is somewhat misleading because a glass greenhouse works mostly by restricting convection while the Atmospheric effect works mostly by restricting radiation. I use “scare quotes” around “greenhouse” to acknowledge this semantic issue.
  7. The Atmosphere passes most of the “short wave” energy from the Sun and absorbs most of the “long wave” energy from the Surface. The absorbed energy warms the Atmosphere and is re-emitted in all directions at a variety of “long wave” wavelengths. A portion of radiation from the Atmosphere passes out the Top of the Atmosphere to Space. A portion is emitted in the downward direction and is absorbed by the Surface. This absorbed radiant energy accounts for most of the extra 33ºC or 58ºF.
  8. A variety of gases in the Atmosphere, primarily water vapor (H2O) and carbon dioxide (CO2), absorb and re-emit “long wave” radiation. These are called “greenhouse gases”.

B. Divergent Views – There is a valid, science-based argument between people I refer to as Warmists, Lukewarmers, and Skeptics. I distinguish their reasoned views from the far out, unscientific rantings of people I refer to as Alarmists and their equal and opposite reaction opponents, who I call Disbelievers.

  1. VP Al Gore was not the first Alarmist, but his public lectures and his Nobel and Oscar-winning movie, An “Inconvenient” Truth, probably did more than anything else to bring Global Warming Alarmism to the fore in the consciousness of the major media and the general population.
  2. The scene depicted above was the highlight of his presentation.
  3. Gore displays the Ice Core record of the past 600,000 years for CO2 (red) and Temperature (blue). He points out the undoubted correlation between the two parameters. When one goes up so does the other. When one goes down, the other does as well. He points out that the then current CO2 level is considerably higher than that of the past 600,000 years, and he projects the future levels of CO2 assuming it continues to rise at current rates. So far, this is all true.
  4. Dramatically ascending high above the stage on his motorized platform, he implies that mean temperatures will rise in proportion to the CO2. (My graphic is annotated in dashed blue to show the implied warming.) If that happens, he warns, more and more of the polar ice will melt, causing the seas to rise and flooding coastal areas. The ground under the polar ice will be exposed, further reducing the albedo of the Surface and causing further warming. We will reach a tipping point with runaway Global Warming.
  5. The villain of Gore’s story is the human race and our habit of burning ever-increasing quantities of fossil fuels (coal, oil, natural gas) that release unprecedented amounts of CO2. This scene, more than any other event, is most likely responsible for the birth of what has come to be known as Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, CAGW. In other words, catastrophe due to human-caused Global Warming. It has become the mantra of the Alarmists and an excuse for governments to regulate all fossil fuels as well as land use that affects albedo. Since all industry and agriculture and civilized life itself depends upon fossil fuels and land use, the Alarmists give suitably oriented politicos an excuse to regulate and tax and restrict virtually everything. We outdoors types will need an indulgence from the government every time we pass wind. And, we can forget about lighting a campfire :^).
  6. But, as the annotations in my graphic above show, there is a fundamental “Inconvenient” truth about the ice core data. It has absolutely nothing to say about the current Global Warming controversy! Gore was misleading the media and the public when he implied that rising CO2 levels would cause corresponding increases in mean temperatures. In particular, as any scientist who took a close look at the ice core data would see, and as I show in the inset graph in the upper left corner, Temperature always rises eight-hundred or more years before CO2 increases. The same is true in the other direction. The Temperature falls eight-hundred or more years prior to CO2 decreases. What this shows, if anything, is that TEMPERATURE CAUSES CO2, or, that something else causes both to change, with CO2 lagging by hundreds of years. Gore got the direction of causation backwards.
  7. When the falsehood of this implied causation was pointed out, Gore’s apologists claimed that it was a minor matter and, after all, despite the 800-year lag, both Temperature and CO2 were up together and down together for about 5/6ths of the record. Besides, they said, we are currently burning historically unprecedented amounts of fossil fuel, and, we know that CO2 is a “greenhouse gas”, and so on and on. But, the truth is still that the ice core record is of a time when there were no humans to burn fossil fuels, so why did Gore bring it up since it has no relationship to our current situation? Raw, unfettered Alarmism has had its effect on the media, the political class, and we common citizens who have to pay the costs of the phony CAGW panic.
  8. In politics, as in physics, every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction. In the Case of CAGW, that opposite (and equally false) reaction is what I call Disbeliever AGW or DAGW. These are people who use pseudo-scientific arguments in their claim that humans have had absolutely no hand in the mean temperature rise of the past century, or that there has been no temperature rise, or that the basic science of the Atmospheric “greenhouse effect” is untrue, and so on. I do not like to be to critical of the DAGW crowd because, when it comes to general political decisions, they are more likely than not to agree with me than my opponents, but my academic integrity and ethical duty as a licensed professional engineer require me to state what I see as the error of their arguments. (As I have in my WUWT Visualizing series [1, 2, 3, 4, 5])
  9. Having dismissed what I regard as the unscientific Alarmists and Disbelievers, that leaves us with three groups that, for the most part, use rational science-base arguments for their diverse views. Of course, every member of each group has somewhat different views, and any attempt to divide them into three distinct types is bound to cross some lines. So, please consider my grouping as approximate.
  10. Carbon sensitivity, which is the estimate of how much mean temperatures will increase if CO2 doubles from historical or current levels, is one way to determine which of the the three groups a person belongs to. The Warmists tend to accept the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) estimate of 2.0ºC to 4.5ºC. The Skeptics tend to set carbon sensitivity much lower, perhaps 0.2ºC to 1ºC. The third group, which I call Lukewarmers, would suggest 1ºC to 3ºC.
  11. How much of the rise in CO2 is attributable to human use of fossil fuels is also estimated differently. Warmists would blame humans for nearly all of it, while Skeptics would say less than half. Similarly, the blame for the supposed 0.8ºC rise in mean temperatures since 1880 is mostly attributed to human activities, while Skeptics say that data bias “adjustments” by the official climate record keepers is responsible for about a third of the supposed warming, and that natural cycles, over which humans have no control, are responsible for about half of it, leaving only 0.1ºC (or maybe up to 0.2ºC) to human responsibility. Lukewarmers are somewhere in-between.
  12. Skeptics have well-justified suspicions that the official climate data keepers were “cooking the books” to lend whatever support they could to the highest estimates of carbon sensitivity. Around the year 2000, US Mean Temperature data was “adjusted” down by 0.1 to 0.2ºC for years prior to the 1970’s, and upwards by 0.2 to 0.3ºC for years after the 1970’s, increasing supposed warming by 0.3 to 0.5ºC.
  13. The surfacestations.org project published photos of official temperature measurement stations that were very near artificial sources of heat, with most being in the lowest two of the five quality levels established by the government. The poor quality stations were compared to nearby well-located stations. There were large temperature deltas that could only be accounted for if the the stations now poorly-located were originally well-located, but had been influenced by nearby development, such as paved parking lots, buildings, and air conditioning vents.
  14. According to a figure in the 1990 IPCC report, 1100 to 1300 AD saw temperatures in the northern hemisphere that were higher than current levels. However, the IPCC 2001 report included the infamous so-called “hockey stick” chart that managed to make the Medieval Warm Period of about 1000 years ago disappear! (My Powerpoint set includes charts with evidence of each of the aforementioned issues.)
  15. These suspicions were not fully confirmed until 2009 when someone (probably an inside whistle-blower) released emails and computer code from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) in the UK, and, later that year, a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request yielded a stash from the US NASA-GISS (Goddard Institute for Space Studies).

C. Climategate – UK Climatic Research Unit (CRU) emails and the US NASA GISS FOIA emails. What they tell us about the published Global Warming data.

IPCC 1990 recognized Medieval Warm Period (MWP) temperatures were above current levels. IPCC 2001 used the "Hockey Stick" chart that makes MWP disappear.
  1. I refer to the CRU as the Climategate Research Unit or, more simply, the Fudge Factory because the words “fudge factor” appear in their computer code. Phil Jones, PhD, is the CRU Director. He confirmed suspicions about the infamous “Hockey Stick” graph when, in an email, he called it “Mike’s Nature trick” (because a version of that graph appeared in a paper by Dr. Michael Mann in the prestigious journal Nature ). He also wrote that the “trick” was designed to “hide the decline” in tree ring proxy data. The tree-ring expert associated with CRU, Keith Brifa, PhD, admits, in one of the emails that “the recent warmth was probably matched about 1,000 years ago”. (My Powerpoint set includes slides with direct quotes from the Climategate materials.)
2007 email from Sato to Hansen details seven analyses of 1934 vs 1998. 1934 starts off with a 0.5ºC lead and ends up in a dead heat.
  1. Moving on to the FOIA emails from GISS, it is interesting to note that their HQ, in New York City, happens to be in the same building as the famous restaurant where Jerry Seinfeld dined with George, Kramer, and Elaine. (It was never revealed what Kramer did for a living – perhaps he was the chief analyst at GISS :^)
  2. The most revealing email from GISS is reproduced above. It was from Makiko Sato, PhD to her Boss, GISS-Director James Hansen, PhD, detailing the seven different analyses and comparisons of US mean temperatures for 1934 and 1998. The later year was the hottest in the 1990’s, so it was, let us say “inconvenient” that 1934, according to data published by GISS in 1999, was over 0.5ºC warmer. If Global Warming was almost entirely due to recent human activities, and was accelerating, how could the 1930 have been warmer?
  3. Just as the Hockey Stick made the Medieval Warm Period disappear, GISS tried mightily to make 1934 cooler than 1998, but only succeeded in reducing the 0.5ºC lead into a dead heat. Notice that the 0.5ºC “adjustment” is more than half the supposed total warming since 1880.
  4. I would like to trust the work of taxpayer-supported science, but, it seems, we must rely on President Reagan’s advice regarding the old Soviet Union, “Trust, but verify!”

D. What We Can and Should Do – Energy policy (cap and trade scam vs carbon tax). Efficiency, conservation, “green“, and renewable sources.

  1. I am quite sure that Global Warming is REAL (i.e. the mean temperature of the Surface has increased by 0.5 to 0.6ºC since 1880) but, most of that increase is due to Natural Cycles over which we humans have no control.
  2. However, the warming is PARTLY Due to Rising CO2 Levels and human actions are PART of the Cause.
  3. There is not and never has been any real danger of catastrophe or even of serious net detriment to human life due to increased CO2 levels. Indeed, modest increases in these parameters are most likely a net benefit.
  4. However, we Skeptics have to be realistic in the current political climate. Like it or not (and I do not like it) the official climate “Team” (i.e., the “Hockey Team” :^) has convinced the political and media establishment, and much of the population that something has to be done. We cannot fight something with nothing, so we need something more than a passive policy of do nothing because nothing is necessary.
  5. Therefore, I favor reduction of the carbon footprint by efficiency, conservation, recycling, and so on, plus the introduction, if and when economically practical of so-called “Green” energy, including Nuclear, Water, Wind, Biomass and, particularly, “Clean” Coal.
  6. If nothing else, these will do minimum harm and, if successful, will reduce US dependence upon foreign oil. We have spent, and continue to sacrifice too much blood and treasure protecting our access, and that of our allies, to energy from unstable regions of the world.
  7. As for the Cap and Trade scam, it is a Politician’s Delight that rewards powerful Interests, wrecks the economy, and will NOT significantly reduce carbon emissions. It seems to me that some countries and US states that have adopted Cap and Trade have realized their folly and are backing away from it.
  8. You may be surprised that I favor some version of a straight Carbon Tax, collected at the mine, well, and port, with the proceeds returned on an equal basis to citizens and legal residents. Yes, James Hansen and (pardon the expression Ralph Nader) also favor it, but, so do conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer, the Wall Street Journal, and others on the right. My support for this tax is based on what I wrote above, “We cannot fight something with nothing” and “We have spent, and continue to sacrifice too much blood and treasure protecting our access, and that of our allies, to energy from unstable regions of the world.”

I’m interested in your critique and comments. (My Powerpoint presentation is available [click here] for you to use and adapt as you wish..)

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Tom T
May 31, 2011 9:36 am

I think your recommendation is wrong. There is no doubt that if we do a little bit now it won’t stop the alarmists, it will instead embolden them. They will come back for more and more. These are big government types. They’re never are satisfied. It has never once work where people have said “we’ll expand government just a little bit here and that will stop them from expanding there.” George W. Bush Thought that would work with the prescription drug plan, but now have both that plan and Obamacare.
I don’t like your appeal to authority in evoking the name of Charles Krauthamer. I don’t think that Krauthammer knows a lot about global warming. But more importantly as of late Krauthammer has been a don’t make waves conservative, someone who believes that if conservatives give in a bit the other side will give a little too. There is no evidence that the other side will ever be satisfied.
The facts are on our side there is no reason to concede ground. This is an issue that the truth will win out in time. One can not run around saying “the sky is falling, the sky is falling” all the time if the sky never falls. Sure it might take another decade or so but eventually it should be clear that major changes to the climate aren’t happening. But if we allow for CO2 taxes and the like, it will only make them say “see even they admit global warming is a disaster, so we have to do even more.”

Chuckles
May 31, 2011 9:39 am

Ira,
I would cover the huge uncertainties in everything, actual measurements, models, projections the lot, and how little we actually know.
e.g.
http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/guest-post-in-the-beginning-was-the-confusion-by-angelo-ribino/

David S
May 31, 2011 9:47 am

The proper solution to a non-problem is to do nothing. If you want to talk about reducing our dependence on foreign oil, that’s worthwhile. If you want to talk about conserving scarce resources, that’s worthwhile too. But proposing solutions to non-problems is counterproductive.

DR
May 31, 2011 9:54 am

I think any manipulation of the market via taxes or legislation is interference with the natural ebb and flow of capitalism in its truest form.
The housing market bubble is a perfect example. Creating artificial markets or manipulating existing [free] ones via bureaucratic meddling or legislation thereby picking winners and losers is not an American ideal.
Now we have a ban of incandescent light bulbs ready to take affect next February. And for what reason? When the CFL bulbs first came out I thought they were neat, but over time I’ve learned to hate the very sight of them. They burn out, are horrible in cold weather and a health hazard. I recently cleaned off the shelves of our local hardware store of incandescent bulbs in preparation for the ban.

Theo Goodwin
May 31, 2011 9:57 am

izen says:
May 30, 2011 at 11:19 pm
@- Carl Chapman says:
May 30, 2011 at 9:07 pm
“For me, the most important point in the debate is the role of feedbacks. The Alarmists assume, with no reason and no evidence, that positive feedbacks will magnify the insignificant primary effect of CO2 by a factor of at least 3. A relatively stable system has to have negative feedbacks, which counteract any forced change.”
“But the climate DOES change in response to the Milankovitch cycles, ice-cover loss and volcanoe eruptions. The magnitude of those changes to small causative effects are the reason and evidence the ‘warmists’ have for the present estimates of climate sensitivity.”
Stick to the topic of forcings. The physical hypotheses that are needed would explain how CO2 causes changes in cloud cover and cause an increase or decrease in temperatures. There are no such physical hypotheses. If you have them, please publish them here. Do not assign homework.

jaypan
May 31, 2011 9:59 am

While Edenhofer tells clearly “it’s not about climate change at all anymore” and the German WGBU drafts the “Great Transformation”, sceptics are wasting time discussing the science. The one-world-government party is moving on, convinced that the public majority has accepted their propaganda already and is ready for the next step.
They even accelerate, before the climate facts get stronger against them.
We need to take their words serious and confront them.

Theo Goodwin
May 31, 2011 10:01 am

Logan says:
May 30, 2011 at 11:39 pm
“Then, go on to Carl Chapman’s point that a dubious positive feedback is required. Mention Roy Spencer.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-101/
who is an expert critic of feedbacks and includes an overview on his website.”
Ira, you actually provide no evidence whatsoever in support of the Warmista claim that sensitivity is high. You should be thorough enough to realize that you cannot say that Warmista have evidence if you cannot state their hypotheses and the confirmation records for those hypotheses. As scientists, Warmista have the duty to provide hypotheses and evidence, something they have not done.

Scott Brim
May 31, 2011 10:03 am

Dr. Glickstein, I see that your academic discipline is in the field of Systems Engineering.
Science should drive the AGW debate, but the essentials of that science ought to be organized and documented in a way that conveys the essential scientific facts both to professional scientists and to the non-scientific public. A Systems Engineering approach could be of considerable value in accomplishing this objective .

A complement: If your audience happens to be well-versed in the Systems Engineering philosophy, your presentation is very effective in illuminating the scientific facets of the debate.
A criticism: If your audience does not happen to be well-versed in the Systems Engineering philosophy — which is the situation with the vast majority of the general public — your presentation is not very effective in illuminating the scientific facets of the debate, because there is too much information carried on too many graphics.

In the mode of deliberately simplifying the scientific issues to their barest essentials, and in the interest of not exceeding the general public’s attention span, the science side of the AGW debate boils down to this: “Is there reason to believe that the warming trend we have seen over the last three decades is anything more than an extension of the general warming trend which has been evident since the end of the Little Ice Age?”
If a disciplined Systems Engineering philosophy were to be applied to the process of answering this question, one would employ a knowledge-managed, procedurally-driven approach to accomplish two very essential subsidiary objectives:
(1) Assess the validity, accuracy, and reliability of the published temperature record from the end of the Little Ice Age to the present.
(2) Assess the validity, accuracy, and reliability of the General Circulation Models (GCMs) used to predict warming trends beyond 1 degree C for a doubling of CO2.
The science side of the AGW debate is quite simple: If the reliability of the published temperature record is open to question; and if the reliability of the General Circulation Models is open to question, then the fundamental premise of AGW is therefore open to question.
That being said, no one should underestimate the considerable time and expense which would be necessary to properly evaluate — while employing a disciplined Systems Engineering approach — the validity, the accuracy, and the reliability of both the published temperature record and the General Circulation Models.
As far as I am aware, no such disciplined evaluation currently exists. The need for such an evaluation is obviously self-evident.

May 31, 2011 10:12 am

“The Alarmists assume, with no reason and no evidence, that positive feedbacks will magnify the insignificant primary effect of CO2 by a factor of at least 3.”
But most alarmists don’t know that they assume that.
****************
More importantly the big gorilla of feedbacks is water vapor which has gone down steadily since 1950 or so.
http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b58035970c0147e2fc6895970b-pi
Without increasing water vapor the CO2 sensitivity is small and CAGW can not be defended.

Lars P.
May 31, 2011 10:27 am

Dear Ira,
I believe points 5 & 6 are flawed.
They do not take into account the properties of water – the energy needed to warm and cool water and the huge energy that water releases when freezing (50 times more then warming at 1 degree) as well as the huge energy that water needs to evaporate.
I trust that these “water properties” and the fact the earth is spinning explain most of the temperature and not greenhouse gases.
When facing the sun the surface would get very hot (moon +100°C – earth in the deserts +50°C) but the oceans do not heat so fast. In the night the oceans cannot lose so fast the energy to freeze in 12 hours.
Greenhouse comes in second position, after the oceans, to explain average temperature, if any. The average +240 W/m2 is not giving proper results.
OK this is my gut feeling, haven’t done the calculations actually, shame on me, but it should not be impossible to check, will do it maybe tomorrow…

May 31, 2011 10:32 am

sceptical says:
May 31, 2011 at 9:15 am
Mr. Glickstein, the “Disbelievers” are out in full force on this thread and are coming after you for talking about physics.
At least Dr. Glickstein has the fortitude to present here what he understands as the physics involved with the issue. He is treated with respect and intelligent discussion does take place.
I just don’t happen to agree with him on all he says.
I and others here are willing to discuss the physics with you. Please go ahead and start.

May 31, 2011 10:38 am

“Given the well documented good that enhanced CO2 does for plant growth. Given the fact that warmer temperatures are, on the whole, better for us and plants than are colder temperatures….It’s easier to make the argument that we should be subsidizing the production of CO2, not taxing it.” [MarkW, May 31, 2011 at 7:18 am]
WHAAAAT? Are you totally….wait…uh…actually, why not? Seriously. Unlike Mr Glickstein’s “machiavellian” scheme of giving away the prize in the hope that by blowing away our own heads, we’ll somehow trick the opposition, MarkW’s seemingly flippant suggestion has a much better chance. Imagine; offering prizes to serial CO2 emitters and showering R & D subsidies for CO2 generation technology! Why’s everyone cringing? Would it be illegal? Not yet. Shocking? Heck, yeah! Over the top? No, not compared to the chutzbah behind the CAGW scheme. Would it work? Of course it would; unlike the never-successful strategies of well-reasoned appeasement, such an in-yer-mug approach would demand courage and conviction, forcing real (and very entertaining) science and fact-based dialogues…for a change.

Reed Coray
May 31, 2011 10:47 am

Ira, thank you for the post.
From my perspective, you give short shrift to one of the most important anti-CAGW arguments. Specifically, “Where is it proven that additional CO2 (however produced) and/or global warming of a few degrees (however produced) are bad for the world?” It can be argued that more CO2 means enhanced plant life which translates into increased food for carnivores. It can be argued that for mankind warmer climates on the whole are better than colder climates. Maybe the latter can’t be proven; but by the same token there’s no proof that climates as is or colder climates are an improvement.
As many commenters have noted, to argue for a “carbon tax” is to appease the warmists. The skeptic argument says there is no problem. If there’s no problem, there’s no need for a tax. Just what problem is a carbon tax supposed to solve?
Finally, in response to
John B says:
May 31, 2011 at 5:11 am

My comments in [bold]
Ira,
A sterling effort but I think you have a massive task in trying to align skeptics. The problem is that even if you remove the outliers, skeptics do not all agree with each other. The AGW argument can be summarized as something like this:
1. Human CO2 emissions have caused CO2 build up in the atmosphere
[Probably.]
2. CO2 is a greenhouse gas
[Only if both the denotation and connotation of a greehouse gas is limited to a gas that absorbs IR radiation. If a “greenhouse gas” connotes warming, then I take exception. After all, a blackbody absorbs all incident radiation including IR, but increasing the radius of a blackbody sphere in a circular orbit about the sun will not result in a surface temperature increase–at least for orbital radii large compared to the sum of the blackbody and sun radii.]
3. Human emitted CO2 has a significant added greenhouse effect over natural effects
[I don’t like the word significant–it’s too subjective. Furthermore, in this claim the connotation of a “greenhouse gas” includes surface warming, which as noted above, I take exception to.]
4. Recent warming has been measured
[Yes, but two points. First, I don’t trust many of the measurements–hell, many temperature records have been lost, so who can trust them? Second, the last decade has seen cooling, not warming.]
5. This warming is unprecedented
[Disagree.]
6. It can be attributed to human emitted CO2
[Disagree.]
7. The warming will get worse due to positive feedbacks
[This is a truism. If this claim is included in the warmist list, then I demand a claim 7a: “The warming will be reduced by negative feedbacks.”]
8. We are fairly confident on the sign and magnitude of those feedbacks
[No opinion as to the ‘sign’, but I have no confidence in the ‘magnitude’.]
9. The effects of the continued warming will be bad
[Maybe/maybe not. I believe a few degrees of warming over a period of one or two centruies will be “good.”]
10. There are things we can do about to mitigate the continued warming
[Unlikely–at least to any measurable degree.]
11. The effects of those things will be good
[Doubtful. And when compared to the negative effects of “those things”, I believe the net effect of try to ‘do something about global warming’ will be bad for mankind.]
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Don R
May 31, 2011 10:59 am

Hi Ira,
Any possibility of you giving a TED talk?

gdn
May 31, 2011 11:11 am

Two more things….
As part of demonstrating that current times are unusual:
For historical proxies, there are relatively few studies, by a few scientists, that attempt to tie everything together, and they are cross-contaminated by relying primarily on proxies which they never attempted to demonstrate were valid as *temperature* proxies, and currently show no correlation with temperature.
Rate of temperature increase: There’s a chart used by the IPCC which purports to show accelerating warming.
vs.
or

Alvin
May 31, 2011 11:15 am

Ira, after re-reading your accounts I may be one of the 95%’ers that cannot accept a carbon tax. I think with all the good that you have done with this, it still enables those government types who wish to tax and spend, a huge issue in the USA and abroad. The industries will still pass that tax on in the form of COGS to the buyers as a tax is simply a punishment that tends to decrease activity.
But keep going. I think you are onto something. Very close.

gdn
May 31, 2011 11:19 am

Graph links should be:
Rate of temperature increase: There’s a chart used by the IPCC which purports to show accelerating warming.
“http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/orssengo5.png?w=509&h=339”
vs.
“http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/orssengo3.png?w=510&h=328”
or
“http://bbickmore.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/monckton_accelerating.png?w=460&h=292”

Karen D
May 31, 2011 11:19 am

Great summary of a complicated topic. Since you’re inviting comments, I have a few.
First I would move the scare quotes in “Inconvenient” Truth so it reads Inconvenient “Truth” — the whole darn thing is pretty inconvenient if you ask me, it’s the truth that still eludes us.
Regarding the distinction between AGW and CAGW, I think it’s significant that even though the catastrophic part is not as widely believed as it was, AGW is still presented as a bad thing. Never mind that warmer temperatures mean more crops and less freezing to death, (and never mind that people almost certainly are not the driving force we egotistically believe we are) media outlets and politicians still put an alarmist spin on climate because scary stories sell better and a frightened populace is more easily led. My point is that once you’ve ruled out “catastrophic”, it’s fair to ask if a warming trend is bad at all.
I strongly disagree with your conclusion that skeptics gain ground by playing along with any kind of carbon tax or gratuitous greening. This is no time for fence sitting. Here in the US, while a few brave politicians have rejected Cap and Trade, the EPA is charging ahead with the very carbon regulation our elected representatives rejected. Recycling and biomass are great, but they are not going to reduce our dependence on foreign oil any time soon. Developing our own resources will.
In my opinion, the benefit we can gain from the global warming scandal is that the general public (such as myself) will snap out of the blind allegiance to media sources we’ve lapsed into in recent years and just say STOP! We’re on to your game, knock it off!
I appreciate the presentation you put together. It is a good tool for discussing the subject, breaking out the various elements so they can be examined and debated each in turn. Very helpful!

JPeden
May 31, 2011 11:22 am

Ira, I favor at the minimum an emphasis on showing that ipcc Climate Science is simply not real science and is therefore not credible, period, which can be fairly easily hammered home to an audience of scientists from the facts that, 1] it has not been able to make any correct predictions yet, but 2] still holds onto its “tenets” such that it will not allow them to be falsified. 3] The empirical evidence is always wrong, and counting, including the fact that that there has been no net disaster yet vs normal or natural climate.
But, regardless, have you considered making your finished lecture also a handout, so that the audience can take it home, go over it, and spread it around, thus also allowing some real “peer-review”, of at least your arguments?

May 31, 2011 11:25 am

@- Jeremy says:
May 31, 2011 at 8:23 am
“You don’t need slides, you don’t need talking points. Ask people who are sure that the globe is warming and humans are the primary cause tough questions. The best one is this:
–> How many weeks/months/years of no change in temperatures or decline in temperatures would it take for you to question the presumed “consensus” view?”
An EXCELLENT suggestion.
Personally I would at least question the “consensus” if three consecutive years of this decade (2011-2020) were colder than the hottest year in the last decade (2001-2010), even if the decade was hotter on average than the last.
I would not just question, but be actively looking for alternative explanations if this decade is NOT hotter overall than the last.
I would point out that this is a high bar for AGW to pass, during the past century of warming there have been several instances of three years being colder than the hottest year in the previous decade, (it happened in the last decade) and a few times when the subsequent decade was NOT warmer than the preceding one.
But sauce for the goose….
What pattern of climate would cause the ‘skeptics’ here to at least question their presumed absence of AGW? What amount of warming/sea level rise and ice loss would cause ‘skeptics’ to doubt the proposition that the warming is entirely natural or insignificant??
It is pointless of course to ask this question of those for whom AGW is a matter of belief or disbelief, they are not thinking scientifically, they’ve essentially conceded that they act on faith, not disprovable hypotheses.

May 31, 2011 11:48 am

@- Theo Goodwin says:
May 31, 2011 at 9:57 am
“Stick to the topic of forcings. The physical hypotheses that are needed would explain how CO2 causes changes in cloud cover and cause an increase or decrease in temperatures. There are no such physical hypotheses. If you have them, please publish them here. Do not assign homework.”
Okay, no homework! -grin-
The physical hypothesis that explain how changes in CO2 causes changes in the ‘greenhouse’ effect by slowing the rate of cooling at the surface by converting outgoing longwave radiation to thermal energy within the atmosphere is well known, established and recognized. Ira Glickstein, Prof Lindzen and Roy Spencer have all explained and acknowledged this rather basic bit of physics in the past.
The magnitude of this effect may be in dispute, but the reality of its existence is not.
After all the changes in the spectra of energy of OLR and DLR have been detected and measured as anyone who follows this subject will be aware.
I think that is why Ira Glickstein created a category of ‘Disbelievers’ who reject the physics and placed them beyond the pale with the ‘Alarmists’. He quite correctly identified both groups as beyond rational argument and can see any concession to the cohort who reject the known physics in favour of unfeasible processes that either negate the existence of the ‘Greenhouse effect’, or attribute it extreme abilities to derange the climate, undermines his own credibility with an informed audience.

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