Skeptic Strategy for Talking About Global Warming

Guest Post by Ira Glickstein

What should a responsible Skeptic say to an astute audience? When recently invited by the “Technology, Engineering, and Science Plus” group in my community to give a talk and answer questions, I knew I would have an attentive room of tech-savvy professionals. However, they might not be fully tuned in to the details of the Global Warming controversy. Furthermore, they were likely to have opinions closer to the supposed “mainsteam science” orientation than mine.

In this posting, I’ve summarized the main points I think are most likely to align people who are both intelligent and reasonable to the Skeptic side. My Powerpoint (with talking points for each chart in the Notes section under each slide) is available [click here] for you to use and adapt as you wish.

Highlight scene from former VP Al Gore's Nobel and Oscar-winning movie, An Inconvenient Truth. Dramatic correlation between temperature and CO2 over past 600,000 years. Implication that global mean temperature rise will parallel CO2 increases. But, which way does the causation go? {Annotations by ira@techie.com, TVPClub.blogspot.com}

A. Basic Climate Science – Water vapor (H2O), carbon dioxide (CO2), and other “greenhouse” gases cause the Earth Surface to be warmer than it would be if the Atmosphere was just nitrogen.

  1. Light energy from the Sun warms the Earth System, which consists of our Atmosphere and the Surface. Based on satellite measurements, the Sun provides 1366 Watts per square meter (W/m^2) at the Top of the Atmosphere. After accounting for the Earth’s spherical shape and albedo (reflectiveness), the absorbed energy averages out to about 240 W/m^2 for each square meter.
  2. To maintain a relatively constant mean temperature, Output Energy must equal Input Energy, so the Earth System must emit about 240 W/m^2 out to Space, which it does.
  3. We call the Input Energy “light” because we can see (much of) it. We call the Output Energy “heat” because we can feel it. However, whether it is “short wave” energy from the very hot Sun, or “long wave” from the more moderate Earth System, we know that energy is fungible. 240 W/m^2 of one type is equal, power-wise, to 240 W/m^2 of the other. A Watt is a Watt, no matter what :^)
  4. But, there is an “issue” – if we consider the Earth System as a “black body”, according to the laws of physics, for the Earth System to emit 240 W/m^2, it would have to be at a temperature of only 255 Kelvin, where Kelvins are degrees Celsius above absolute zero. (The Earth System is not exactly a black body, but it is close enough for our purposes here.)
  5. You may remember that anything above absolute zero emits radiant energy and that 0.0 Kelvin corresponds to -273ºC or -460ºF. The “issue” is that the Earth Surface has a mean temperature closer to 288 Kelvin, corresponding to about +15ºC or +59ºF. In other words, the Surface is about 33ºC or 58ºF warmer than the “black body” formula would indicate. How to explain this added warmth?
  6. The generally accepted explanation is the Atmospheric “greenhouse effect”. This is true science, but the name is somewhat misleading because a glass greenhouse works mostly by restricting convection while the Atmospheric effect works mostly by restricting radiation. I use “scare quotes” around “greenhouse” to acknowledge this semantic issue.
  7. The Atmosphere passes most of the “short wave” energy from the Sun and absorbs most of the “long wave” energy from the Surface. The absorbed energy warms the Atmosphere and is re-emitted in all directions at a variety of “long wave” wavelengths. A portion of radiation from the Atmosphere passes out the Top of the Atmosphere to Space. A portion is emitted in the downward direction and is absorbed by the Surface. This absorbed radiant energy accounts for most of the extra 33ºC or 58ºF.
  8. A variety of gases in the Atmosphere, primarily water vapor (H2O) and carbon dioxide (CO2), absorb and re-emit “long wave” radiation. These are called “greenhouse gases”.

B. Divergent Views – There is a valid, science-based argument between people I refer to as Warmists, Lukewarmers, and Skeptics. I distinguish their reasoned views from the far out, unscientific rantings of people I refer to as Alarmists and their equal and opposite reaction opponents, who I call Disbelievers.

  1. VP Al Gore was not the first Alarmist, but his public lectures and his Nobel and Oscar-winning movie, An “Inconvenient” Truth, probably did more than anything else to bring Global Warming Alarmism to the fore in the consciousness of the major media and the general population.
  2. The scene depicted above was the highlight of his presentation.
  3. Gore displays the Ice Core record of the past 600,000 years for CO2 (red) and Temperature (blue). He points out the undoubted correlation between the two parameters. When one goes up so does the other. When one goes down, the other does as well. He points out that the then current CO2 level is considerably higher than that of the past 600,000 years, and he projects the future levels of CO2 assuming it continues to rise at current rates. So far, this is all true.
  4. Dramatically ascending high above the stage on his motorized platform, he implies that mean temperatures will rise in proportion to the CO2. (My graphic is annotated in dashed blue to show the implied warming.) If that happens, he warns, more and more of the polar ice will melt, causing the seas to rise and flooding coastal areas. The ground under the polar ice will be exposed, further reducing the albedo of the Surface and causing further warming. We will reach a tipping point with runaway Global Warming.
  5. The villain of Gore’s story is the human race and our habit of burning ever-increasing quantities of fossil fuels (coal, oil, natural gas) that release unprecedented amounts of CO2. This scene, more than any other event, is most likely responsible for the birth of what has come to be known as Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, CAGW. In other words, catastrophe due to human-caused Global Warming. It has become the mantra of the Alarmists and an excuse for governments to regulate all fossil fuels as well as land use that affects albedo. Since all industry and agriculture and civilized life itself depends upon fossil fuels and land use, the Alarmists give suitably oriented politicos an excuse to regulate and tax and restrict virtually everything. We outdoors types will need an indulgence from the government every time we pass wind. And, we can forget about lighting a campfire :^).
  6. But, as the annotations in my graphic above show, there is a fundamental “Inconvenient” truth about the ice core data. It has absolutely nothing to say about the current Global Warming controversy! Gore was misleading the media and the public when he implied that rising CO2 levels would cause corresponding increases in mean temperatures. In particular, as any scientist who took a close look at the ice core data would see, and as I show in the inset graph in the upper left corner, Temperature always rises eight-hundred or more years before CO2 increases. The same is true in the other direction. The Temperature falls eight-hundred or more years prior to CO2 decreases. What this shows, if anything, is that TEMPERATURE CAUSES CO2, or, that something else causes both to change, with CO2 lagging by hundreds of years. Gore got the direction of causation backwards.
  7. When the falsehood of this implied causation was pointed out, Gore’s apologists claimed that it was a minor matter and, after all, despite the 800-year lag, both Temperature and CO2 were up together and down together for about 5/6ths of the record. Besides, they said, we are currently burning historically unprecedented amounts of fossil fuel, and, we know that CO2 is a “greenhouse gas”, and so on and on. But, the truth is still that the ice core record is of a time when there were no humans to burn fossil fuels, so why did Gore bring it up since it has no relationship to our current situation? Raw, unfettered Alarmism has had its effect on the media, the political class, and we common citizens who have to pay the costs of the phony CAGW panic.
  8. In politics, as in physics, every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction. In the Case of CAGW, that opposite (and equally false) reaction is what I call Disbeliever AGW or DAGW. These are people who use pseudo-scientific arguments in their claim that humans have had absolutely no hand in the mean temperature rise of the past century, or that there has been no temperature rise, or that the basic science of the Atmospheric “greenhouse effect” is untrue, and so on. I do not like to be to critical of the DAGW crowd because, when it comes to general political decisions, they are more likely than not to agree with me than my opponents, but my academic integrity and ethical duty as a licensed professional engineer require me to state what I see as the error of their arguments. (As I have in my WUWT Visualizing series [1, 2, 3, 4, 5])
  9. Having dismissed what I regard as the unscientific Alarmists and Disbelievers, that leaves us with three groups that, for the most part, use rational science-base arguments for their diverse views. Of course, every member of each group has somewhat different views, and any attempt to divide them into three distinct types is bound to cross some lines. So, please consider my grouping as approximate.
  10. Carbon sensitivity, which is the estimate of how much mean temperatures will increase if CO2 doubles from historical or current levels, is one way to determine which of the the three groups a person belongs to. The Warmists tend to accept the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) estimate of 2.0ºC to 4.5ºC. The Skeptics tend to set carbon sensitivity much lower, perhaps 0.2ºC to 1ºC. The third group, which I call Lukewarmers, would suggest 1ºC to 3ºC.
  11. How much of the rise in CO2 is attributable to human use of fossil fuels is also estimated differently. Warmists would blame humans for nearly all of it, while Skeptics would say less than half. Similarly, the blame for the supposed 0.8ºC rise in mean temperatures since 1880 is mostly attributed to human activities, while Skeptics say that data bias “adjustments” by the official climate record keepers is responsible for about a third of the supposed warming, and that natural cycles, over which humans have no control, are responsible for about half of it, leaving only 0.1ºC (or maybe up to 0.2ºC) to human responsibility. Lukewarmers are somewhere in-between.
  12. Skeptics have well-justified suspicions that the official climate data keepers were “cooking the books” to lend whatever support they could to the highest estimates of carbon sensitivity. Around the year 2000, US Mean Temperature data was “adjusted” down by 0.1 to 0.2ºC for years prior to the 1970’s, and upwards by 0.2 to 0.3ºC for years after the 1970’s, increasing supposed warming by 0.3 to 0.5ºC.
  13. The surfacestations.org project published photos of official temperature measurement stations that were very near artificial sources of heat, with most being in the lowest two of the five quality levels established by the government. The poor quality stations were compared to nearby well-located stations. There were large temperature deltas that could only be accounted for if the the stations now poorly-located were originally well-located, but had been influenced by nearby development, such as paved parking lots, buildings, and air conditioning vents.
  14. According to a figure in the 1990 IPCC report, 1100 to 1300 AD saw temperatures in the northern hemisphere that were higher than current levels. However, the IPCC 2001 report included the infamous so-called “hockey stick” chart that managed to make the Medieval Warm Period of about 1000 years ago disappear! (My Powerpoint set includes charts with evidence of each of the aforementioned issues.)
  15. These suspicions were not fully confirmed until 2009 when someone (probably an inside whistle-blower) released emails and computer code from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) in the UK, and, later that year, a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request yielded a stash from the US NASA-GISS (Goddard Institute for Space Studies).

C. Climategate – UK Climatic Research Unit (CRU) emails and the US NASA GISS FOIA emails. What they tell us about the published Global Warming data.

IPCC 1990 recognized Medieval Warm Period (MWP) temperatures were above current levels. IPCC 2001 used the "Hockey Stick" chart that makes MWP disappear.
  1. I refer to the CRU as the Climategate Research Unit or, more simply, the Fudge Factory because the words “fudge factor” appear in their computer code. Phil Jones, PhD, is the CRU Director. He confirmed suspicions about the infamous “Hockey Stick” graph when, in an email, he called it “Mike’s Nature trick” (because a version of that graph appeared in a paper by Dr. Michael Mann in the prestigious journal Nature ). He also wrote that the “trick” was designed to “hide the decline” in tree ring proxy data. The tree-ring expert associated with CRU, Keith Brifa, PhD, admits, in one of the emails that “the recent warmth was probably matched about 1,000 years ago”. (My Powerpoint set includes slides with direct quotes from the Climategate materials.)
2007 email from Sato to Hansen details seven analyses of 1934 vs 1998. 1934 starts off with a 0.5ºC lead and ends up in a dead heat.
  1. Moving on to the FOIA emails from GISS, it is interesting to note that their HQ, in New York City, happens to be in the same building as the famous restaurant where Jerry Seinfeld dined with George, Kramer, and Elaine. (It was never revealed what Kramer did for a living – perhaps he was the chief analyst at GISS :^)
  2. The most revealing email from GISS is reproduced above. It was from Makiko Sato, PhD to her Boss, GISS-Director James Hansen, PhD, detailing the seven different analyses and comparisons of US mean temperatures for 1934 and 1998. The later year was the hottest in the 1990’s, so it was, let us say “inconvenient” that 1934, according to data published by GISS in 1999, was over 0.5ºC warmer. If Global Warming was almost entirely due to recent human activities, and was accelerating, how could the 1930 have been warmer?
  3. Just as the Hockey Stick made the Medieval Warm Period disappear, GISS tried mightily to make 1934 cooler than 1998, but only succeeded in reducing the 0.5ºC lead into a dead heat. Notice that the 0.5ºC “adjustment” is more than half the supposed total warming since 1880.
  4. I would like to trust the work of taxpayer-supported science, but, it seems, we must rely on President Reagan’s advice regarding the old Soviet Union, “Trust, but verify!”

D. What We Can and Should Do – Energy policy (cap and trade scam vs carbon tax). Efficiency, conservation, “green“, and renewable sources.

  1. I am quite sure that Global Warming is REAL (i.e. the mean temperature of the Surface has increased by 0.5 to 0.6ºC since 1880) but, most of that increase is due to Natural Cycles over which we humans have no control.
  2. However, the warming is PARTLY Due to Rising CO2 Levels and human actions are PART of the Cause.
  3. There is not and never has been any real danger of catastrophe or even of serious net detriment to human life due to increased CO2 levels. Indeed, modest increases in these parameters are most likely a net benefit.
  4. However, we Skeptics have to be realistic in the current political climate. Like it or not (and I do not like it) the official climate “Team” (i.e., the “Hockey Team” :^) has convinced the political and media establishment, and much of the population that something has to be done. We cannot fight something with nothing, so we need something more than a passive policy of do nothing because nothing is necessary.
  5. Therefore, I favor reduction of the carbon footprint by efficiency, conservation, recycling, and so on, plus the introduction, if and when economically practical of so-called “Green” energy, including Nuclear, Water, Wind, Biomass and, particularly, “Clean” Coal.
  6. If nothing else, these will do minimum harm and, if successful, will reduce US dependence upon foreign oil. We have spent, and continue to sacrifice too much blood and treasure protecting our access, and that of our allies, to energy from unstable regions of the world.
  7. As for the Cap and Trade scam, it is a Politician’s Delight that rewards powerful Interests, wrecks the economy, and will NOT significantly reduce carbon emissions. It seems to me that some countries and US states that have adopted Cap and Trade have realized their folly and are backing away from it.
  8. You may be surprised that I favor some version of a straight Carbon Tax, collected at the mine, well, and port, with the proceeds returned on an equal basis to citizens and legal residents. Yes, James Hansen and (pardon the expression Ralph Nader) also favor it, but, so do conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer, the Wall Street Journal, and others on the right. My support for this tax is based on what I wrote above, “We cannot fight something with nothing” and “We have spent, and continue to sacrifice too much blood and treasure protecting our access, and that of our allies, to energy from unstable regions of the world.”

I’m interested in your critique and comments. (My Powerpoint presentation is available [click here] for you to use and adapt as you wish..)

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Dave Springer
June 1, 2011 8:18 am

@Ira
A carbon tax is an atrociously bad idea. You catch more flies with sugar than with vinegar. What inevitably happens with any new taxes is additional bureaucracy springs up to collect and redistribute them skimming a portion of those taxes off the top to fund the bureaucracy. A far better approach than punishing carbon consumption by beating consumers with a tax stick is to reward carbon conservation with tax breaks.
I agree however that reliance on foreign oil is a big problem begging for a remedy. CO2 emission in and of itself is a good thing so that’s no remedy. The short term remedy is cost effective alternatives we have in abundance i.e. natural gas and coal. There should be a federal tax break on these fuels but instead they are being punished by giving the tax breaks to so called renewables like wind and solar power. The long term solution of course, given that coal and natural gas aren’t infinite resources and will someday become scarce, is conversion of solar energy into liquid and gas fuels that are drop-on replacements (no massive change in distribution and consumption infrastructure) for fossil fuels. I believe that synthetic biology will win the day and within the next decade biological generation of liquid fuels will be far more economical than digging/pumping it out of the ground. Already pilot synthetic biology fuel plants are getting near to competitive (on a level playing field!) with oil at $30/bbl. At $100/bbl for oil it’s already far more competitive. I believe this is pretty common knowledge amongst oil producers and they are now, as we speak, trying to milk every dollar out of the ground they possibly can before they are driven back to the $30/bbl range by biological fuel production. If synthetic biology keeps making big gains (which they will) it will drive fossil fuel producers out of the fuel business because they simply aren’t able to compete anymore down in the historic $15/bbl range because too much of the low hanging fruit in fossil oil has been plucked. So while fossil oil inevitably becomes more expensive to harvest solar energy harvested through synthetic biology become less expensive. The writing is on the wall.

Matt G
June 1, 2011 8:19 am

Lets not also forget the problem with ice core data. The slices of each ice core are melted into liquid water to measure the CO2 content. Liquid water depending on the temperature dissolves CO2 gases different to the content of the atmosphere. A good example is comparing CO2 gas levels in ocean/lake/pond water compared with the atmosphere. The observed results show them all to significantly below levels than the current atmosphere, with samples as low as 90/100 ppm compared with the recent 391 ppm in the atmosphere. Just another example how complicated climate science can be.

June 1, 2011 8:19 am

Izen says:
“Warming may have been a benefit for the Greenland Vikings and possibly for the Tehuaco in Chile, but in Europe it brought Plague and stagnation. It wasn’t until the LIA that the Industrial revolution and modern society got established.”
So cold is good, warm is bad, down is up, evil is good, ignorance is strength…

izen
June 1, 2011 8:32 am

Smokey says:
June 1, 2011 at 8:19 am
“So cold is good, warm is bad, down is up, evil is good, ignorance is strength…”
Well… if you say so, – but more to the point, can you give three examples of civilisations that benefited from a warming period?

Theo Goodwin
June 1, 2011 8:34 am

As the embers disappear, it seems to me that we can all agree that calling people “Deniers” is really stupid, though it might rally the troops. It seems to me that Ira’s list of names for people pro or con AGW is putting lipstick on a slur.

June 1, 2011 8:37 am

Ira please read below paper. It highlights the importance of water vapor on the transmission of energy around the globe.
Mr. Springer you would be interested in this also as it dove tails nicely with what you have put forth. To which I have stated several times I am in roughly 90% agreement.
It adds some more flesh to Mr. Wilder’s hot water bottle theory.
http://junksciencearchive.com/Greenhouse/Earth-s_Climate_Engine.pdf

Dave Springer
June 1, 2011 8:42 am

MarkW says:
May 31, 2011 at 7:59 am
“Until there is a proven method of storing terawatts worth or power at an economical price, wind and solar are nothing more than play things.”
That should be painfully obvious to all but evidently it eludes most the environmental whackos.
The only viable means of storage and distribution that I can on the horizon is conversion of solar energy into chemical energy. Green plants have been doing this for at least a billion years. The base technology comes to us on a silver platter. The crux is that green plants (particularly blue-green algae) produce hydrocarbon fuels as an unwanted by-product of metabolism so they produce rather little of it. Natural selection rewards the critters which are most efficient at metabolism and reproductionwhile punishing the less efficient. Humans, through genetic engineering and artificial protection, can turn that equation upside down. We genetically alter the critters so that hydrocarbon production is maximized and we reward them by creating an environment where they are nutured and natural competitors are artifically excluded. This is happening as we speak. Synthetic (GM) organisms with optimized hydrocarbon production are being awarded patents left and right while means of excluding competitors are being improved. The best thing about this is that blue-green algae thrive in both brackish and municipal wastewater, will take up all the additional CO2 you can give them to convert to hydrocarbon fuels, and the best places to exclude natural competitors are the worst places for conventional agriculture. The Texas panhandle is ideal as it isn’t being used for much of anything except oil wells, wind farms, and cattle grazing. A fraction of it devoted to synthetic biology fuel production so small it would be almost unnoticeable in a satellite view can provide enough hydrocarbon fuel to replace all other energy sources in the entire country. No joke – I ran through the numbers using pilot plant numbers of 20,000 gallons of bio-diesel per acre per year. The number of acres required at that rate to meet the energy needs of the entire country is just a small fraction of the number of acres in the Texas panhandle alone.

June 1, 2011 8:43 am

Ira,
I’m in broad agreement with your scientific explanations. But really, you should stick to what you’re good at and forget economics. Higher taxation is the goal of the alarmist crowd. Throwing them a bone will only whet their appetite. They will instantly spend every extra dollar they can take, then hold their hand out for more, more, more. We’ve got to put a stop to it some time. How about now?
# # #
Izen, there are lots of examples, such as the Roman, Mayan, Viking, Minoan, Aztec, etc. You’re not seriously suggesting that colder is better than warmer… are you?

A G Foster
June 1, 2011 8:58 am

Global Warming caused the desiccation of North Africa, the downfall of Islam and the rise of Christian Europe. If you tally Hellenistic thinkers of note, more hale from North Africa and the Middle East than from Europe for the simple reason that the population of North Africa was greater than that of Europe. E.g., all three flat earthers were from Africa and the Orient, none from Europe, though Lactantius settled in Rome to become the tutor of Constantine’s son.
Leptis Magna supplied the wheat for the Roman dole and one emperor, Septimius Severus. It was later covered with sand till modern times, when the population of the coast began to rise again. I think it was Pliny the Elder who reported an average of three thunderstorms per summer in Egypt. Timbuctu was a great city until sea trade and warming left it an isolated outpost. Camels replaced horses for coastal transport around 300BC.
So Barbaria declined with climate change while Europe flourished. And now the desert is blossoming again–due to whatever is going on. The Great Salt Lake will rise this spring. –AGF

Matt G
June 1, 2011 9:04 am

Izen says:
“Warming may have been a benefit for the Greenland Vikings and possibly for the Tehuaco in Chile, but in Europe it brought Plague and stagnation. It wasn’t until the LIA that the Industrial revolution and modern society got established.”
Getting mixed up with the Little Ice Age when this period occurred between about 1250 and 1850. It wasn’t until around 1850 when the industrial revolution began after the LIA had ended. Europe had serious Plague and stagnation problems during the LIA when climate was colder. Ever heard of the bubonic plague (back death) which killed millions of Europeans during this time? Malaria was a big problem for Europe during the Little Ice Age. Warming has benefited Europe greatly and can be seen over recent decades too.
http://www.windows2universe.org/earth/climate/little_ice_age.html

Matt G
June 1, 2011 9:30 am

typo – (black death)

A G Foster
June 1, 2011 9:53 am

I thought the cows were belching methane. –AGF

Brian H
June 1, 2011 10:21 am

Ira;
yes, you’d eat less. More of what you did eat would pad your situpon, though. Just for an extreme contrast, a competitive cyclist can burn 6,000 Cal/day during a Tour de Whatever.
And lose weight in the process.

Dave Worley
June 1, 2011 10:44 am

I support, practice and encourage efficiency of all manner, be it energy or raw materials. Waste of any kind is wrong.
That being said, I cannot support any efficiency measures done under the false pretense of saving the planet from Climate Change. Such measures (windfarms for example) tend to be the inefficient and unsustainable knee jerk reactions of shallow thinkers and the opportunists that feed on them.
Further, we need to collectively counter the attempted redefinition of the words “Climate Change” by folks who repeatedly use the phrase in the wrong context. They need to be called out and repeatedly embarrassed in pubic for this abuse of our language.

Scott Brim
June 1, 2011 10:57 am

David Springer: ” I believe that synthetic biology will win the day and within the next decade biological generation of liquid fuels will be far more economical than digging/pumping it out of the ground. “
So, what you are saying implies this ….. if and when biofuel becomes as cheap and accessible as conventional crude oil once was, then we in the US really don’t need to worry that the Chinese and the Indians will — through their growing economic power — eventually gain a dominant position over the US in terms of having greater access to the world’s remaining petroleum supplies, which they would then employ to expand their own use of the automobile tenfold. They — and we — could manufacture all the cars we could ever want without fear we will eventually run out of gasoline.
If that is so, this development could have profound impacts on my own personal life choices.
For example, I usually keep my cars for ten to fifteen years. Does this mean that if I trade in my four-cylinder Mazda 6 for the six-cylinder model — there is a lot more zoom-zoom in the six-cylinder Mazda 6 than there is in the four — I shouldn’t have to worry that ten years from now, I won’t be regretting the small mileage penalty of the six cylinder version?

Matt G
June 1, 2011 11:38 am

Ira,
“So, mkelly, although Mt. Everest does not get much of the reduction of Solar energy Input due to Atmospheric absorption of Solar short-wave radiation, it gets even less of the Atmospheric “greenhouse effect” since so little of the Atmosphere and GHGs are between it and Space. In short, long-wave radiation from the Surface at Mt. Everest has to pass through hardly any of the Atmosphere to get out to Space. That, my friend, is why Mt. Everest is colder than Daytona Beach. Got it?”
The slightly different composition with gases spread out more, has a little influence on the atmosphere at that height, but the real reason is down to pressure. The atmosphere composition of gases from sea level to 2000 feet above has no noticable change, yet temperatures are often different per 100m by 0.6c. The same for 1atm compared on other planets, where the temperatures at this pressure are similar to Earth, yet the gas composition very different.

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