Second BEST

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

Professor Muller of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature (BEST) project is always interesting, but he just keeps digging his personal hole deeper. He recently gave an interview titled “Scientists Often Pigeonholed By Political Debates” and answered questions on NPR. To his credit, he is standing up straight and tall for science, for full transparency, for the scientific method. I like that. He is also one of the few mainstream scientists who has publicly said that Climategate showed horrible behavior and scientific malfeasance, and he repeated that on NPR:

CONAN: And that’s, you would say, would be at the heart of the so-called Climategate story, where emails from some scientists seemed to be working to prevent the work of other scientists from appearing in peer-reviewed journals.

Prof. MULLER: That really shook me up when I learned about that. I think that Climategate is a very unfortunate thing that happened, that the scientists who were involved in that, from what I’ve read, didn’t trust the public, didn’t even trust the scientific public. They were not showing the discordant data. That’s something that – as a scientist I was trained you always have to show the negative data, the data that disagrees with you, and then make the case that your case is stronger. And they were hiding the data, and a whole discussion of suppressing publications, I thought, was really unfortunate. It was not at a high point for science.

And I really get even more upset when some other people say, Oh, science is just a human activity. This is the way it happens. You have to recognize, these are people. No, no, no, no. These are not scientific standards. You don’t hide the data. You don’t play with the peer review system.

I wholeheartedly agree. I only fear that Muller doesn’t realize the full extent of the problem. I’m afraid he hasn’t noticed how that whole “we’re on a noble mission to save the world from itself” mentality has deeply infiltrated and corrupted an entire field of scientific inquiry.

I also found his comments on “pigeonholing” quite revealing. In the interview he divides people into “deniers”, “skeptics”, and “exaggerators”, and discusses what he sees as the characteristic claims of his neatly pigeonholed groups … and then he claims he doesn’t like pigeonholing?

Here’s a pro-tip, Dr. Muller.

A man who dislikes pigeonholing doesn’t use the term “denier”. It makes people doubt both your sincerity and your goodwill. You’ve been told many times that I and many other people out here find that term insulting. You continue to use it. Is that stupidity, or do you just not care that you are insulting people, or are you insisting that you have the right to insult people? Whichever way … it’s not good.

Next, he wants to play both sides of the street, viz:

CONAN: How much of that [warming] is attributable to humans? But do you agree that at least – does the data show that at least some part of it is attributable to humans?

Prof. MULLER: Yes, yes. It’s us. People call me a skeptic, because I drew attention to many of the exaggerations that in – is in former Vice President Al Gore’s movie. But I think a scientist has to recognize when there are exaggerations and settle down on what is solidly known.

OK. That’s clear. Regarding the warming, “It’s us.” He’s not a skeptic, he says he’s talking about what is “solidly known”. However, he continues …

Temperature has been rising over the last 100 years. That’s pretty clear. How much is due to varying solar activity and how much due to humans is a scientific issue that we’re trying to address.

Huh? How can he say “It’s us” so confidently, how can it be “solidly known” as he claims, if it is still “a scientific issue that we’re trying to address.” ?? Make up your mind, Dr. Muller, because clearly the Olympic back flip-flop isn’t your best event …

I did greatly enjoy Dr. Muller’s indirect takedown of Jerome Ravetz, however, viz:

CONAN: Well, given the analysis that you reached, aren’t there urgent policy decisions that need to be made?

Prof. MULLER: Oh, that’s the irony. The policy decisions are so urgent that people tend to abandon the scientific method. It’s ironic that when something’s important, they sometimes feel they have to not be so candid and unbiased because it’s urgent. I think just the opposite. When things are urgent, that’s the time the scientist has to settle down and show – do things using the unbiased methods that they’ve been taught.

Thank you, Professor Muller. Jerome Ravetz keeps pushing “Post-Normal Science”, the idea that when the stakes are high and decisions are urgent, we should change the way we do science. I agree with Muller that when things are urgent is the time when we need the full rigor of the tried-and-true scientific method even more than ever.

Next, Muller says:

CONAN: Urgency, though, is the critical word here, is it not?

Prof. MULLER: Well, I think one of the things we’re trying to do at Berkeley Earth is determine how urgent it is. The global warming attributed by the IPCC, the big U.N. Council that makes this consensus report, attributes about half a degree, half a degree Celsius of warming to humans. But is it .4? Is it .3? If so, we have a lot more time. Is it .6 or.7? If so, we’re in a big rush.

I find this curious. Does anyone know where he gets that “half a degree” of anthropogenic warming from the IPCC report? (And I love his description of the IPCC report as a “consensus report”, he must not have twigged that “consensus” is what you get when you squash all opposition. But I digress.)

In any case, I don’t see how his work with BEST relates to any urgency. Does he really believe that BEST finding a difference of 0.1°C or 0.2°C in the observational record will suddenly make the situation “urgent”? As he points out, the issue is not whether the world is warming, it is whether humans are the cause. His work will not elucidate that question in the slightest.

Finally, I emphatically did not like his dig at Anthony Watts.

CONAN: You mentioned Anthony Watts. He runs a website for climate deniers, said he was prepared to accept whatever result your group produced, even if it proves my premise wrong. After your testimony, he said the hearing was post-normal science political theater.

Prof. MULLER: Well, I think Anthony can be forgiven for his ups and downs. I think he has done a great job, a real contribution, and I think his work has proved really essential.

Professor Muller thinks he is entitled to advise us to forgive Anthony for his “ups and downs” because of the great weight of Anthony’s contribution to science? Man, the good Doc’s sense of entitlement knows no bounds, it’s been far too long in the ivory tower for that boy. Having transgressed badly himself, he now wants to lecture us on proper behavior as though we were his college students?

Now, that comes close to undoing all the good Prof. Muller did above with his defense of honest science. Here’s my take-home message for Professor Muller:

Professor Muller, there’s a lot of folks like me out here who are deciding whether or not to forgive you for your un-necessary public attack on Anthony, using data he had given you in confidence. Your arrogant and patronizing attitude in this interview merely helps us make up our minds whether you are worth forgiving or not.

My vote is still yes, Dr. Muller, we should forgive you. But that’s based on your profound but probably curable naiveté about climate science and your general likability, and not based on your contrition or probity, because you seem woefully short on both of the latter. The good news is that at least you stand revealed. From here out any man who tells you anything in confidence is a fool. You have shown us that you won’t shirk to first publicly betray the man’s confidence, and then to top it off you’ll advise us to forgive the man for being so crude as to get upset at your betrayal …

Again, let me say that none of this says anything about whether the BEST results will be good, bad, or meaningless. That is a totally separate question, about which to date we know far too little to comment.

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JPeden
April 14, 2011 9:10 am

Nice deconstruction of the usual Progressive gibberish, Willis! In effect, always staying as far behind the curve as possible so as to avoid an imperfect, messy, and “inferior” Reality, eventually means the Progressive mind must disintegrate into an agglomeration of vaporous nonsense.

c1ue
April 14, 2011 9:16 am

I’d just like to note that Mr. Watts’ granting access to data should not in any way be considered conditional on ‘appropriate’ research results.
To expect this is to act no differently than the Hockey team.
While there are many things to be unhappy about regarding Dr. Muller’s testimony in front of Congress – particularly the over-presentation of the actual state of his study and therefore any possible results – nonetheless open access is exactly what the climate science community needs.

April 14, 2011 9:16 am

55. RR Kampen,
Muller has always been–not an alarmist– in the alarmist camp. It doesn’t mean his work isn’t objective, though his presentation may be.
Anyway, he’s not a “convert”. He set out to confirm the trend and make the data and analysis public so that both criticisms can be addressed/reduced and so that more, better analysis can be done to understand differences in at surface monitors and satellite data. It should give us a better idea of land use impacts on climate and how on the ground weather changes affect global weather (farming, urbanization, population growth, affect on the ground readings while not affecting the global weather much).

Dagfinn
April 14, 2011 9:16 am

ferd berple says: “Ravetz is playing foul, equating regulation with the scientific method.”
Well, he seems to be, and it’s his own fault. Probably the worst problem with “post-normal science” is the word “science”. It’s highly misleading, and I think if you read what he actually wrote you’ll see that he doesn’t propose throwing out the scientific method.

April 14, 2011 9:23 am

What Willis’s main gripe is that he publicly discussed Anthony’s data and analysis, which he assembled at great expense to himself, before he published.
If you’ve followed Anthony, you know that he doesn’t expect a major change. He wants a more objective and useful data set.

Jeremy
April 14, 2011 9:31 am

Meh, it’s not really up to us to forgive Muller or not. That’s up to Anthony.
Muller seems to be a form of “Paris Hilton” of climate science at this point, angling for as much attention as he can get while providing us with lurid glimpses at his own nature. Best to ignore such attention-*#!$s and pay attention to results. BEST has no results yet, so in the words of a confused youtube blogger, “LEAVE MULLER ALONE!” and wait until he has anything of substance to say. Based on the amount of self-promotion to this point, I’m betting the final published works wont be any better than a reality show.

April 14, 2011 9:33 am

Muller should consider suing the LA Times.

April 14, 2011 9:40 am

c1ue says:
“I’d just like to note that Mr. Watts’ granting access to data should not in any way be considered conditional on ‘appropriate’ research results.”
Where did you get that idea??
# # #
RR Kampen says: April 14, 2011 at 5:08 am [ … ]
Folks should know two things:
1. Kampen is part of BEST, and
2. Kampen is a climate alarmist who has swallowed the IPCC Kool Aid, as his regular propaganda posts here demonstrate. He is a typical part of the problem.
BEST needs to have an equal representation of skeptical scientists [the only honest kind of scientist] on board. The fact that alarmists like Kampen got an invite shows BEST’s agenda. And that agenda is to reinforce the CAGW meme – as Muller has clearly stated, his pre-ordained conclusion is that human activity is responsible for global warming [“Yes, yes. It’s us.”]. If anything, Kampen is even more of a True Believer.
The problem is that these jokers always ignore the scientific method. That makes BEST just another CAGW propaganda megaphone, funded by organizations that promote the “carbon” scare.

REPLY: I’ve met the BEST team in person, and AFAIK RR Kampen, whoever that is, isn’t a member. Also, when Kampen posts here, his IP address traces to an ISP in the Netherlands, so it seems doubly unlikely. Smokey needs to retract that statement. – Anthony

APACHEWHOKNOWS
April 14, 2011 9:54 am

Berkeley is what Berkeley does.
Nothing new here.
Find the facts.
Facts win every time.

Jeff Mitchell
April 14, 2011 9:56 am

I am not a fan of post normal science. The argument that we need to act now “just in case” is absurd. The problem is that acting now, without really knowing all the feedbacks, forcings and their effects, could result in unhelpful changes to the climate as well. Its a darned if you do, darned if you don’t problem for which there will be no answer until we understand the systems involved better. The cure could be worse than the disease. If they don’t know how the system really works, they can’t really say what will happen if we cut back on CO2. If we trigger an ice age by climate engineering to stop warming, that would be catastrophic for millions of people. The cautionary principle works both ways.
As Westley (Princess Bride) would say: “Well if there can be no arrangement, then we are at an impasse.” The battle of wits has begun…

TRM
April 14, 2011 10:05 am

Dear Dr. Muller;
We AGW skeptics have never, nor will we ever, ask for forgiveness for adhering adamantly to the scientific method and eviscerating those who abandon it.
We are skeptics NOT deniers. Please do not refer to us as such. All good scientists are skeptics and open to changing their position if the FACTS change.

JAE
April 14, 2011 10:25 am

Yup.

April 14, 2011 10:29 am

Smokey, “Kampen is part of BEST” ?
They seem to have neglected him on their website, poor chap: http://www.berkeleyearth.org/aboutus
Oddly enough, neither Mosher nor myself nor Anthony, for that matter, are “part of BEST”, though we have all provided constructive criticism and/or passed along data that might be useful for them.
REPLY: I agree, I don’t know where Smokey got this idea. RR Kampen is clearly not part of BEST – Anthony

Sam Parsons
April 14, 2011 10:55 am

Willis Eschenbach says:
April 14, 2011 at 10:17 am
“We all have our ups and downs, it’s true. However, we don’t all testify to Congress and attack someone using data given to us in confidence … perhaps you don’t understand the difference, but some of us do, and we find it important.”
Spot on. Your intuitions about ethics and your reasoning about ethics are completely sound. It is a shame that the ordinary American no longer has the moral courage that you do. Keep up the great work.

April 14, 2011 11:32 am

Zeke Hausfather,
IIRC, RR Kampen was listed somewhere in connection with BEST. Maybe Kampen can clear it up. Your link doesn’t list staff members. If I’m wrong, I apologize for the error. Next, you go on to say: “Oddly enough, neither Mosher nor myself nor Anthony, for that matter, are “part of BEST”, though we have all provided constructive criticism and/or passed along data that might be useful for them.” What does that have to do with anything?
Also, when clicking on your name I noticed your GISS chart. The GISS y-axis is quite exaggerated, isn’t it? And the chart itself is scary – until it becomes apparent that the scary part is mostly future model predictions. For a real world chart of what is actually occurring, see here [chart by Bill Illis].

Lady Life Grows
April 14, 2011 11:48 am

Willis says
I’m afraid he hasn’t noticed how that whole “we’re on a noble mission to save the world from itself” mentality has deeply infiltrated and corrupted an entire field of scientific inquiry.
No, no, no, Willis, it is (irony) much, much worse than you thought. Not sarcasm, irony. This PC has corrupted not only meteorology and climate “science;” it has also corrupted biology, agriculture, economics, ecology and energy engineering. These corruptions have killed tens to hundreds of thousands of people in the middle East, and could cause a war that could kill billions.

April 14, 2011 12:03 pm

The nice thing about posting code and data is once we do that we have turned over our power.
Let me explain. Hansen refused to turn over his code. That gave him all the power in answering questions about it. That gave him all the power in testing certain things with that code, like different metadata for urbanity.
When CRU refused to release their data that gave them power over Willis’ desire to look at how they handled UHI.
When they refused to share power, people, myself included, became rightly suspicious of their ethics, their politics, and their motives. note, the refusal to release is not Proof of wrong doing, it adds weight to our mistrust.
Now that the data and code are released, those questions don’t matter anymore. I have Hansens power over the code. I can run it. I can change it. I can examine it in detail. True, I dont have his power to make pronouncments, but I have the ability to check his work and do my own work. I have the power to check and see for myself.
That’s why I share my code. I don’t want anybody speculating that my politics, or my ethics changed the way I do things.
The situation with Anthony And Muller is quite unfortunate. For some time people have been waiting for Anthony to share his data with everyone. He is waiting to publish a paper. But during that time people have made claims about his findings. Claims nobody has the power to check. Now, Anthony has shared that data with Muller. Anthony shared his power with Muller.
We don’t know what agreement took place. We have reports of recollections.
I take it that Anthony thought Muller would SAY NOTHING and PUBLISH NOTHING until Anthony published in peer review first. But Anthony cant control when or if he publishes. I take it that Muller believes he promised to PUBLISH NOTHING IN PEER review.
Willis and others see Muller’s actions as an ethical lapse. Anthony had one conception of the agreement, Muller apparently either…..
A. had a different notion of the agreement
B. had the same notion of the agreement and broke it.
Before I passed ethical judgement on somebody I would
1. Ask myself, was I there? did I OBSERVE the discussion
2. Ask myself if there was a written agreement reporting the discussion
3. Ask both sides.
4. Give a charitable reading for both sides.
5. Make MEASURED and non emotional assessments.
Or I could pour gas on the fire and make moshpit the center of attention. woohoo, done that before, so I’m in no position to criticize pot stirring. The pot won’t call Willis black.
In the end, Muller either will or will not share his data and code. Until such time
it is pointless to discuss his ethics. If he doesnt release the data and code, I give the work no credit. No points. thank you for playing. If he does release the data and code, I dont care if he clubbed baby seals, and neither should you.
Until he is finished let the circus continue.

u.k.(us)
April 14, 2011 12:53 pm

Prof. MULLER: “Well, I think one of the things we’re trying to do at Berkeley Earth is determine how urgent it is. The global warming attributed by the IPCC, the big U.N. Council that makes this consensus report, attributes about half a degree, half a degree Celsius of warming to humans. But is it .4? Is it .3? If so, we have a lot more time. Is it .6 or.7? If so, we’re in a big rush.”
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Most of my hardest lessons were learned when I was in a “big rush”, now, when in a rush, I try to slow down to a crawl. And double check my work.

April 14, 2011 3:39 pm

Smokey
“Also, when clicking on your name I noticed your GISS chart. The GISS y-axis is quite exaggerated, isn’t it? And the chart itself is scary – until it becomes apparent that the scary part is mostly future model predictions. For a real world chart of what is actually occurring, see here [chart by Bill Illis].”
1. Read the chart. It was produced by Lucia.
2. the chart compares model means with observations, the scale is immaterial to the POINT of the graphic which is that the model means run higher than the observations.
3. Illis chart is not an accurate representation of “what is happening”; CLIMATE is the long term average of of the weather.
So, you didnt understand that Zeke chart was actually Lucia’s, you didnt understand that the POINT of that chart was to note how the models and the observations have diverged over a LONG period, and your reccomendation is to look at recent weather.