Dr. Ball at left, Dr. Mann at right
This is a scheduled auto-post done from my hotel WiFi last night.
This below sent to me by John O. Sullivan on behalf of Dr. Tim Ball. Like with the Sydney rally I posted on earlier, I have no dog in the fight. I’m just passing this on for interested readers with this comment: While the allegedly libelous phrase at issue is not repeated here, I find it amazing and ironic that Dr. Michael Mann is making the effort to sue about it.
Due to the extra attention Dr. Mann has attracted with the lawsuit, the exposure of the phrase is now far and above what it was when originally posted on the Canadian website. I didn’t even know of it until the lawsuit was announced. I’ve had far worse things said about me in this climate debate turned ugly, and the best legal advice I’ve seen given to public figures in the news business is that they generally are not successful when suing for alleged slander/libel, especially for something that is a critical opinion piece with what appears to be a satirical joke line. Criticism and satire in an opinion piece are generally hard to challenge legally in the USA, though it is different in Canada. In Canada, the law is broader. Even so, I don’t think Dr. Mann or his attorney are going to be prepared for the demands of discovery on this one, nor do I think he will prevail in his lawsuit, based on similar failed actions I’ve seen against anchors and reporters in the TV news business when challenged by a public figure. Whether Dr. Mann realizes it or not, he is probably the most well known public figure in climate science next to Al Gore and Dr. James Hansen.
But, buy popcorn, and if so inclined, there’s a link to help out Dr. Ball.
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Top Climate Skeptic Seeks Help in Double-barrel Courtroom Shootout
By John O. Sullivan
Esteemed climate scientist, Tim Ball faces two costly courtroom libel battles. Here he reveals his concerns and appeals for help with his legal fees.
Dr. Tim Ball is widely recognized as one of Canada’s first qualified climate scientists and has long been one of the most prominent skeptics taking a stand on corruption and unethical practices. Two exponents of the global warming scare Ball has targeted, professors Michael Mann and Andrew Weaver, are now suing him for libel.
Many suspect the David Suzuki Foundation is funding Vancouver libel specialist, Roger D. McConchie who is representing both Weaver and Mann against Ball. Suzuki is reported as wanting skeptics like Ball “put in prison.”
Savvy skeptics suspect that Ball, a 72-year-old pensioner, was singled out as a target because he has no big corporate backers and will capitulate under the emotional and financial strain before the case even gets to trial as his legal fees spiral. Such a fate befell Ball in a prior libel suit in 2006.
But buoyed by the public sympathy Ball is now gaining he is confident an appeal for donors will make all the difference. He is adamant that this is the perfect opportunity skeptics have been waiting for to expose climate change fraud in a court of law and he won’t be bounced out of this most crucial contest.
Below Dr. Ball (TB) speaks frankly to John O’Sullivan (JOS).
INTERVIEW
JOS: Now that you’ve been hit with two very expensive libel suits in quick succession rumors are mounting that well-funded environmentalists are now intent on using the law to kill off free speech in the climate debate. Would you agree with this assessment?
TB: I am not aware of specific evidence of such a campaign or the financing. The practice of bringing lawsuits has been going on for some time but it was spasmodic. More recently, that is over the last year or so, it has increased, particularly with the charges by Weaver through McConchie against the National Post. One change was the addition of important people to the Suzuki Board back in 2009, such as John Lefebvre, but also included Westport Innovation CEO Elaine Wong, that brought additional money as Chris Horner pointed out. Another addition to the Board was equally disturbing, not because of the money but because of the compromise of integrity. George Stroumboulopolos is the host of a weekly program on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC).
Other increased activities centered on publication of Hoggan and Littlemore’s book Climate Cover Up. This book includes attacks on specific people including me. It makes the usual list of false charges including that I am paid by the oil companies. Then there was Weaver’s book Keeping Our Cool: Canada in a warming World, with a cover note by Suzuki that says, A gripping narrative, this should be the final alarm.
JOS: Desmogblog, funded by the Suzuki Foundation, has been ‘showcasing’ such legal attacks on scientists like you. Do you fear this new trend towards litigation is the inevitable course for the climate debate, and if so do you see any positive outcome for science?
TB: As noted above this is not new litigation but the intensity has increased. As you also know, people like Fred Singer received such threats a few years ago like me. I have mixed feelings about the activities. Personally it is intimidating because of the costs involved if nothing else. Legally it is a threat to free speech and, in my opinion, a misuse of the law to silence open debate. What has been interesting is the cultural reaction to the legal challenges. Americans immediately recognize it as a threat to free speech, while Canadians are slower to acknowledge that threat. In the long term I think exposure of these tactics, particularly in the context that they are losing the scientific debate will backfire. It will be seen for what it is a use of the law as a form of ad hominem attacks.
I am also concerned that the credibility of science in general is in jeopardy because too many scientists, including Suzuki, Weaver, Mann and others have been involved directly or indirectly in the process.
JOS: You obtained your doctorate in climatology from the University of London, Queen Mary College way back in 1983 before much of the hype began about global warming. Yet your critics deride you as a “shill for ‘Big Oil”’ paid to ‘attack’ Weaver, Mann and the IPCC. Is that true?
TB: This is absolutely false. Here is the story. Several years ago a group of professional people in Alberta, including engineers, hydrologists, geologists were very angry about the bad science involved in climate research a particularly through the IPCC and the Kyoto Protocol. We met at Calgary Airport and out of that came the group Friends of Science (FOS). Their problem was they were based in Calgary, Alberta, the Canadian centre of the oil industry. Also some of them, because of their expertise had worked in the oil patch. I warned them to focus solely on the science and to make sure all funding was at arms length. They did both, with funding being handled through the University of Calgary. I acted as an adviser and contributed articles as well as spoke a couple of times at their AGMs.
David Anderson, The Minister of Natural resources said that all Canadian climate experts had been consulted on the Kyoto Protocol. Eight of us, all climate experts traveled to Ottawa and held a press conference to say we had not been consulted. The Minister counteracted us by announcing that he would release the governments Kyoto policy in the house at the same time as the press conference. This was amazing since no previous mention was made despite questions by the media. His move had the effect of drawing away virtually all media attention.
I received $800 for travel and expenses and incorrectly thought FOS paid it. Subsequently it turned out that it was paid by APCO a PR company. Then it was disclosed that FOS had received a donation of, as I recall $12,000 from an energy company. It was I understand about 7% of their total donations, the rest was from private citizens. Very quickly my belief that I was paid by FOS was converted to the charge that I was therefore in the pay of FOS who were in the pay of the oil companies. The fact that $800 was about 6% of the $12,000 was of no consequence. The issue, as it appears with everything they do is to take something and distort ti or use it out of context knowing that once it is out there is not pulling it back. Hoggan’s skills as PR expert are manifest. It is also why I find it amusing that the very property of the Internet they exploit is being attacked by McConchie in his charges against the National Post on behalf of Weaver and his demand that I contact web sites that have repeated my article. The futility of that exercise was that most were not interested and also some of the sites they listed indicated they had merely Googled keywords and came up with completely inappropriate places like a tennis site apparently because my name is ball.
JOS: If Weaver and Mann have been given a ‘blank check’ to use expensive lawyers against you are you and your attorney confident you can win, and if so why?
TB: I am confident that if it comes down to a science debate I can carry the day. I am encouraged in this because to date all have consistently refused or avoided debate. I base this claim on the almost five year challenge the cross-Canada Roy Green radio show has held out for someone to debate, with no takers. My lawyer’s main concern is whether I can afford the defense. The problem is I have no choice because if I don’t respond or say I was completely at fault they would pursue damages for defamation and all costs.
I am also confident that my lawyer says that all charges of defamation are unfounded and the only error was the incorrect claim that Weaver had resigned from the IPCC. I believe it was an honest mistake because the information was provided in the article with citations. We have acknowledged and pre-emptively apologized for this error.
JOS: Who is paying your legal bills?
TB: I am. I have paid out about $10,000 so far and am rapidly depleting my savings, these are meager because the only research funding I received during my career was from the National Museum of Canada. This occurred primarily because my research of reconstructing past climate records was deemed historical climatology. At that time it did not fit the very definitive line between Arts and Science research. The museum understood the problem.
JOS: I’ve heard you’ve started your new blog and you’ll be selling climate science pamphlets to help raise donations to pay your legal fees. Is this true?
TB: Yes. I had worked through other blogs and web pages to date, but disappointments, including being fired from a magazine that I wrote a column for monthly for 17 years led me to go it alone. The firing was just one of many instances where I know from direct reports that it was due to pressure on management because of my skeptical views. The blog allows me control and the opportunity to point out what is wrong with many of the stories appearing in the media. I am planning a series of booklets of about 80 to 100 page in length that provide explanations of major issues in the debate. The idea is that they are short, will fit in a pocket, and deal with one issue at a time. Since they will appear as a series people will be able to have in hand the answers to major issues in the debate in language that non-scientists can understand. I hope to sell these booklets through the web site and use the money to offset the legal costs. Meanwhile we continue to survive on pensions (wife and mine) and small amounts made from public presentations.
JOS: You have recently been working to expose the vast discrepancies between what the IPCC science reports say and what is in the IPCC Summary for Policymakers. Is this an important area of attack for skeptics?
TB: Yes. The science report itemizes all the problems including limitations of data, lack of understanding of mechanisms compounded in the inadequacies of the computer models. The public perception is that the IPCC science is solid and certain that human CO2 is causing global warming and climate change. The difference between the public perception and what the Science report attest is deliberately achieved by the structure of the IPCC system that has a Summary for Policymakers released before the Science report is available. It is understandable that the Mainstream Media and the public are unaware of the differences but it is not credible that the scientists involved are unaware. Their silence is deafening.
JOS: What else has really struck a chord with you in the Great Global Warming Debate?
TB: People find it hard to believe that the entire world could be so easily misled by so few people. They, particularly Maurice Strong, established control of all government weather agencies by co-opting the World Meteorological Organization. This gave them control of data collection and archives within each nation then its global dissemination. Each national weather agency controlled politicians and funding of research. They directed funding to one side of the science debate thus allowing later the circular arguments that claims that most scientists and most publications prove the science. The national agencies also determined who served on the IPCC thus providing complete control. The group of scientists who controlled the entire process became so small that Professor Wegman was able to name names in his report to the US Congress. As he demonstrated, they controlled the peer-review process thus allowing them to further control the publication process.
JOS: What has been toughest part of your skeptic’s journey so far?
TB: It is very difficult, especially when you have paid such a high price financially, emotionally, and in people’s public and personal views. It is not easy when your children, wife and friends hear a radio person say, “Oh, Tim Ball, he is that nut job paid by the oil companies that doesn’t believe in climate change.” It is not easy when people tell you that you are a fool for not using your knowledge and abilities to go with the flow and make a lot of money. As someone said after Climategate it must be nice to be vindicated. I replied there is no pleasure in I told you so. It is not easy when you are very aware of the sacrifices your family has been subjected to because you are determined to demand proof and the truth. As Voltaire said, It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong.
Thank you, Dr. Ball and good luck with the fund raising for both your cases.
Visit Dr. Ball’s site ‘A Different Perspective’ where you can read more of Tim’s expert insight and donate to his legal fund that is being handled independently by the Frontier Centre and Tim’s attorney (‘Donate’ button is in top right corner of Tim’s page).
Note: Donors will be issued with a tax receipt on request.

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Donation gladly made. However, I now feel a tinge of guilt that I’ve given as much to Dr. Ball’s legal defense as I gave to the Canadian Red Cross for Japan disaster relief. Time to head over to redcross.ca to give again.
David Ball says:
April 8, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Perhaps Phil. would be kind enough to tell the truth about what happened between Tim Ball and Dan Johnson. Perhaps he would be kind enough to tell us where Dan Johnson teaches and what he teaches. Then maybe he could show us the retraction printed by the Calgary Herald. You should not believe ANYTHING that is written on DesmogBlog, should you Phil. To me it seems that DesmogBlog can dish it out, but they cannot take it. Soon it will be time to established how much damage these people have done to Dr. Ball’s career. That’s gonna leave a mark!!
Actually I didn’t read DesmoBlog, I read the court papers. Tim Ball claimed to have been a Professor at the University of Winnipeg for 28 years rather than the actual 8 years. He obtained his B.A. in 1970, 26 years before his retirement in 1996, in other words he claimed to have been a Prof while an undergrad! Sounds like an inflated resume to me. The damage to his reputation results from that.
Given that Mann has done nothing under PA or VA law (that we know of) that could land him in the State Pen, Ball would do well to publicly retract his little witicism, apologizing to Mann if anyone misunderstood his joke and took it literally. Then he should thank Mann for giving it so much publicity! 🙂
I can report that Tim is overcome with emotion at the support and monies already given generously by the good folks on WUWT. Tim is especially grateful to Anthony for his even-handedness in this contentious matter. WUWT readers alone have already given in excess of $7,000, a not insignificant sum in these hard times.
In response to Nick Stokes who commented: “Ball received a PhD in geography in the UK in 1982 on a topic in historical climatology,” I asked Dr. Ball to show me his Ph.D Diploma from the University of London. It says clearly that Ball’s Field of Study was “Climatology” and the thesis was entitled, ” Climatic Change in Central Canada: A Preliminary Analysis of Weather Information from the Hudson’s Bay Company Forte at Yorke Factory and Churchill Factory. 1714-1852.”
Sadly, Mr. Stokes hasn’t checked his facts or is cynically doing a good man down.
The goal is to raise $200,000 for Tim’s legal fund. So we have a long way to go yet. But even if Tim’s supporters cannot donate themselves they would be performing a huge service by spreading the word to others who they feel may be able to donate. We feel sure there are wealthy folk out there, who in all conscience would certainly help if they knew of Tim’s circumstances.
Indeed, for larger sums Tim’s lawyer will agree in writing to reimburse donors in the event the court awards Tim legal costs and damages. Also, all U.S. donors wishing to make a tax deductible donation via a registered charity should contact Tim’s Canadian lawyers,‘Pearlman Lindholm’ and send attention: ‘Tim Ball Legal Fund’, 201 – 19 Dallas Road, Victoria BC, Canada, V8V 5A6
Mann is corrupting science by coercively seeking to silence a scientist supporting another theory rather than addressing the evidence. As a scientist/engineer, I condemn Mann’s cowardly base attack.
Mann is a [snip] for attacking a pensioner, destroying his meager savings, and driving him into bankruptcy, while hiding behind a safe secure job. Mann’s lawsuit against Dr. Ball is politically motivated. Those backing Mann are the more contemptible.
Please help Dr. Ball and write to Mann at mann@psu.edu.
So much for this McConchie guy being a top notch lawyer. He can’t even get basic pleadings right. (I have been a solicitor for many years here in the UK and have trained many newly qualified and trainee lawyers over the years – given up the law now I’m getting older, though). The pleadings refer to the “Ball Words” but do not define anywhere in the pleadings what these are (they are previously referred to as the “Ball Interview”) – very sloppy and something that a rookie lawyer would be expected to have got out of his/her system before he/she qualified. If this is the measure of this guy’s attention to detail then he isn’t that good!!
Also, note from the pleadings:
“Express Malice
The defendants published the defamatory expression for which each is responsible with the knowledge that the meanings conveyed by that expression were false, or alternatively, with reckless indifference whether they were true or false, and/or for the predominant purpose of harming the plaintiff and exposing him to hatred, ridicule, and contempt, lowering the plaintiff in the estimation of others, and causing him to be shunned and avoided.”
I appreciate that the action rests on an interpretation of Dr Ball’s intention or his recklessness, but we should make it absolutely clear that there was no risk of Dr Mann being damaged in the way stated – i.e that the damage claimed could not have flowed from the statement.
Accordingly we can help Dr Ball even if we don’t contribute financially. We should all write to Dr Ball (and send a copy to Mann’s lawyers) and explain that Dr Ball’s comment(s) about Dr Mann do not have the damaging effect alleged in the pleadings. We are included in the “others” in whose estimation Dr Mann is apprently lowered. In our letters we should state that these comments cannot lower Dr Mann in our estimation since he is already, based on our own knowledge, lowered in our estimation to the maximum extent. If we can produce thousands and thousands of letters like this it will help. I am sending mine to Dr Ball and to Dr Mann’s lawyers today.
On reflection I wonder if there’s a practice in Canadian law to refer to the “Words” as an understood reference, in common usage in Canadian defamation law, so my criticism might not be founded. Anyway, the rest of my suggestion holds in any event.
All thebest, all
See: Climatologist Timothy Ball sends PhD to Canada Free Press
Dr. Ball stated:
Dr. Ball’s hard science is gaining traction:
“Thousands of letters of support flooded CFP when Dr. Ball’s article, Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts? was posted on Monday’s Drudge Report. In the space of two days, CFP received 1 million page views courtesy of Drudge.”
The AGW lot sure have some shameless supporters who’ll defend anything, it looks like.
I would like to express my sincere gratitude to all those who have contributed and understand the significance of the case. Words do not convey what this means to our family who have fought very hard to be heard in spite of the almost insurmountable road blocks put in the way. We thank you all from the bottom of our hearts.
Phil is being misleading and using the “full professor” identification. The 28 years is accurate. Sorry.
David Ball says:
April 9, 2011 at 10:43 am
Phil is being misleading and using the “full professor” identification. The 28 years is accurate. Sorry.
Really, he was a Professor before obtaining his B.A.?
Ah Nicky my boy, you are cherry picking the statement of claim in the Johnson situation…
And by the way, “professor” is a designation and position title arrived at through collective bargaining between whatever union represents university professors on Canadian campuses and their management. Just like the title “research scientist” has absolutely no meaning unless you are trying to make an appeal to authority (or work for Greenpiece). And a publication record as long as your leg means nothing if it is full of contrived crap, like for instance IPCC models of AGW effects.
Heck, I’ve worked with a “research scientist” who had nothing but a B.Sc. to his name (and had a respectable publication record to boot) and with technicians who had earned their post-docs. Plenty of Canadian campuses used people with B.A.s as professors in the past and all universities think nothing of tenured professors handing over their teaching duties to grad students – who are essentially un-tenured professors without a graduate degree. If Dr. Ball started out teaching with an undergrad degree and worked his way up to a Ph.D. – well that’s just fine as far as I am concerned. It earns him more respect from me because I have seen a lot of tenured professors without graduate degrees (as well as minimally credentialed unionized government “research scientists”) just sit on their fundament until retirement. However, to suggest publicly that this process was somehow second rate, or wasn’t valid as a means of credentialing Dr. Ball and use this argument as a means of detracting from Dr. Balls skeptical arguements, which is what Johnson did – well, this is simply an ad hominen and richly deserves a defamation suit.
Also Nick, are you stating publicly in your comments above that Dr. Ball wasn’t a professor for 28 years? Careful now – you don’t want to get too SLAPP happy.
Hi again all. Here is the text of the email I have sent to Dr Mann, ccd to his lawyers and to Dr Ball’s lawyers. I strongly urge like minded people to do likewise.
To: mann@psu.edu
CCd to: nphilpott@pearlmanlindholm.com; mcconchie@libelandprivacy.com
Dear Dr Mann,
I am writing to you in respect of your lawsuit against Dr Ball and others.
I wish to place on record, and am copying this email to your lawyer and to Dr Ball’s lawyer, (hoping that many people do likewise), to let you know that Dr Ball’s allegedly defamatory remark(s) about you have no impact whatsoever on my regard for you.
I and my family are widely read and informed on climate science and have taken a particular interest in your work.
Regardless of any finding by the court about Dr Ball’s intentions or alleged recklessness I wish to make clear to you that it is not possible for any remarks by any individual to place you in any less regard than you are already held by me, my wife, and my adult son.
The fact that a person who has never met you, will never meet you, and who lives many thousands of miles away from where you live and work and who has no affiliations whatever that could be criticised by you or axe to grind in any respect, feels compelled to make their position clear to you should give you a clear insight into the regard with which you are held by us, and I firmly believe by many around the world.
Yours sincerely,
Richard XXXXXXXX
LL.B.(Hons.), PG Dip.
Solicitor (Non-practising)
[Address details]
Note:
To Pearlman Lindholm – please make this email available to the lawyer dealing with the above case and I give full permission for this email to be included in any trial bundle or other evidence presented in the above case.
Michael Mann, Suzuki and Weaver are [snip] History will judge them harshly.
Speaking of donations by commenteres here, is there an update on the farming family in Australia?
I sent him a donation
John O’Sullivan says:April 9, 2011 at 9:51 am
“In response to Nick Stokes who commented: “Ball received a PhD in geography in the UK in 1982 on a topic in historical climatology,” I asked Dr. Ball to show me his Ph.D Diploma from the University of London. It says clearly that Ball’s Field of Study was “Climatology” and the thesis was entitled, ” Climatic Change in Central Canada: A Preliminary Analysis of Weather Information from the Hudson’s Bay Company Forte at Yorke Factory and Churchill Factory. 1714-1852.”
Sadly, Mr. Stokes hasn’t checked his facts or is cynically doing a good man down.”
John, it’s your facts that are astray. Firstly, it wasn’t my comment. I was quoting from Dr Ball’s earlier court submission, where he attributed the claim to Dr Johnson (and made it the basis of his lawsuit). Secondly, I actually can’t see any difference between the statement you quoted and your expanded version.
But in any case, I’m not concerned with the actual issue of Ball’s professorship. I’m addressing your ridiculous characterisation of the case as a poor pensioner set upon by a big bad scientist. I’m contrasting the triviality of the case which Ball pursued against Johnson with the clearly damaging things he said about Mann.
Mr Stokes,
Clearly you have something in your eyes if you cannot see a key difference in the statements above. From my own certified copy, which to me looks perfectly genuine and will, of course, be part of Tim’s submission in his evidence bundle, Queen Mary’s College specifically certify that it is “in the Field of Climatology” that Dr. Ball has been eminently qualified for decades.
I sense this irks your sensibilities but there it is. Thus anyone who imputes that Ball is not a Doctor of Climatology is defaming him.
No doubt, if the tables were turned and Ball was as censorious of academic free speech and thin-skinned as Mann then Ball could have sued untold alarmist critics who, for decades, repeated the far more damaging lie that Ball falsely claimed he was a climatologist.
But as we know, Tim Ball is a 72-year-old pensioner bled of the last of his savings and without Mann or Weaver’s deep-pocketed ‘Big Green’ friends eager to toss away $$$$,$$$’s from their “charitable donations” on two cynically timed and vexatious lawsuits. But if you have proof that what I’ve said is untrue then please relay your ‘evidence’ to Mann’s lawyer.
As we stand, with the increasing awareness of the strength of Ball’s legal arguments, a groundswell of support is building a fund to help him obtain justice. Why don’t you simply reserve judgment, grab a box of popcorn and make yourself comfortable in your chair and watch Mann, Weaver, the IPCC and the David Suzuki Foundation crash and burn at trial.
Nick, the people damaged by the Piltdown Mann’s work think his suit is trivial. It is compared to the damage they’ve sustained.
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Funny story regarding the defamation suit against Johnson. The lawyer, who was Calgary based by the way, said to my father, ” Why don’t you just call up some of your buddies and ask for the money (to continue litigation)?” Not quite sure what he meant, dad asked “What buddies are you referring to?” The lawyer had actually assumed that there was going to be oodles of coin from “Big Oil”. The suit never actually went to court due to lack of funds, but was declared a victory to anyone who would listen by Johnson and DesmogBlog. They were hoping that no one would find out the truth. As is evidenced above, some people actually bought into that. The web is truly tangled.
MapleLeaf says:
March 9, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Karmel @4,
Going by the facts, I can only assume that you are referring to Mosher and Watts being busted (again) for lying and slandering respected climate scientists. Time to also ask Watts who Steven Goddard really is.
Time for someone to take legal action against these SOBs (including Inhofe) for damages. and if Inhofe did leak confidential material surely that is actionable. This really does show how truly desperate Watts, Mosher, McIntyre, Morano and Inhofe are.
Jim @9,
Weaver has sued, but there has been no decision yet, so it also premature to say he has been “successful”. that said, it did send a very strong message to the media to get their facts right and address the real issues instead of libelling people and spreading lies. The tone of the media has improved as a result of Weaver’s brave actions.
I urge anyone who is interested in understanding the “Weaver effect” to google “MapleLeaf” and “Andrew Weaver”. You should begin to understand the relationships between the parties involved in the current suit. I think this is just a test case for bigger game, and Watts and McIntyre are the target.
Hey, Nick, go see what Steve’s just published about the conspiracy to protect the hockey stick. These pretended damages to Mann utterly pale in comparison to the damage wrought by this crew conspiring to hoax the world about the hockey stick. You are naive if you think there won’t be attempts to redress this. You should be careful who you defend, lest you get covered with some of their slime.
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John O’Sullivan says: April 9, 2011 at 2:36 pm
“Thus anyone who imputes that Ball is not a Doctor of Climatology is defaming him.”
John, your “facts” are really getting dotty. Ball is not a “Doctor of Climatology”. That’s not defaming him – I’m sure he doesn’t claim to be. He doesn’t have a PhD “diploma” either.
I’ll say it again – I was raising this lawsuit to point out the bizarre world in which it’s unreasonable for Mann to sue over being called a criminal (and I believe the headline on Ball’s website about Mann’s criminal misconduct is actually from you), but it’s OK for Ball to sue an academic over the correct description of the topic of his PhD.
But if T.C. and David Ball really want to argue that disputing the claim that TB was a prof for 28 years is defamatory, they could help by just giving some numbers. When is it claimed that he became a prof? Where?
Sorry, quote above was from Climate Progress article “Inhofe, Horner, McIntyre and Watts fabricate another phony “despicable smear” against Michael Mann
March 9, 2011” The last paragraph was mine.