Help asked for Dr. Tim Ball in legal battle with Dr. Mann

Dr. Ball at left, Dr. Mann at right

This is a scheduled auto-post done from my hotel WiFi last night.

This below sent to me by John O. Sullivan on behalf of Dr. Tim Ball. Like with the Sydney rally I posted on earlier, I have no dog in the fight. I’m just passing this on for interested readers with this comment: While the allegedly libelous phrase at issue is not repeated here, I find it amazing and ironic that Dr. Michael Mann is making the effort to sue about it.

Due to the extra attention Dr. Mann has attracted with the lawsuit, the exposure of the phrase is now far and above what it was when originally posted on the Canadian website. I didn’t even know of it until the lawsuit was announced. I’ve had far worse things said about me in this climate debate turned ugly, and the best legal advice I’ve seen given to public figures in the news business is that they generally are not successful when suing for alleged slander/libel, especially for something that is a critical opinion piece with what appears to be a satirical joke line. Criticism and satire in an opinion piece are generally hard to challenge legally in the USA, though it is different in Canada. In Canada, the law is broader. Even so, I don’t think Dr. Mann or his attorney are going to be prepared for the demands of discovery on this one, nor do I think he will prevail in his lawsuit, based on similar failed actions I’ve seen against anchors and reporters in the TV news business when challenged by a public figure. Whether Dr. Mann realizes it or not, he is probably the most well known public figure in climate science next to Al Gore and Dr. James Hansen.

But, buy popcorn, and if so inclined, there’s a link to help out Dr. Ball.

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Top Climate Skeptic Seeks Help in Double-barrel Courtroom Shootout

By John O. Sullivan

Esteemed climate scientist, Tim Ball faces two costly courtroom libel battles. Here he reveals his concerns and appeals for help with his legal fees.

Dr. Tim Ball is widely recognized as one of Canada’s first qualified climate scientists and has long been one of the most prominent skeptics taking a stand on corruption and unethical practices. Two exponents of the global warming scare Ball has targeted, professors Michael Mann and Andrew Weaver, are now suing him for libel.

Many suspect the David Suzuki Foundation is funding Vancouver libel specialist, Roger D. McConchie who is representing both Weaver and Mann against Ball. Suzuki is reported as wanting skeptics like Ball “put in prison.”

Savvy skeptics suspect that Ball, a 72-year-old pensioner, was singled out as a target because he has no big corporate backers and will capitulate under the emotional and financial strain before the case even gets to trial as his legal fees spiral. Such a fate befell Ball in a prior libel suit in 2006.

But buoyed by the public sympathy Ball is now gaining he is confident an appeal for donors will make all the difference. He is adamant that this is the perfect opportunity skeptics have been waiting for to expose climate change fraud in a court of law and he won’t be bounced out of this most crucial contest.

Below Dr. Ball (TB) speaks frankly to John O’Sullivan (JOS).

INTERVIEW

JOS: Now that you’ve been hit with two very expensive libel suits in quick succession rumors are mounting that well-funded environmentalists are now intent on using the law to kill off free speech in the climate debate. Would you agree with this assessment?

TB: I am not aware of specific evidence of such a campaign or the financing. The practice of bringing lawsuits has been going on for some time but it was spasmodic. More recently, that is over the last year or so, it has increased, particularly with the charges by Weaver through McConchie against the National Post. One change was the addition of important people to the Suzuki Board back in 2009, such as John Lefebvre, but also included Westport Innovation CEO Elaine Wong, that brought additional money as Chris Horner pointed out. Another addition to the Board was equally disturbing, not because of the money but because of the compromise of integrity. George Stroumboulopolos is the host of a weekly program on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC).

Other increased activities centered on publication of Hoggan and Littlemore’s book Climate Cover Up. This book includes attacks on specific people including me. It makes the usual list of false charges including that I am paid by the oil companies. Then there was Weaver’s book Keeping Our Cool: Canada in a warming World, with a cover note by Suzuki that says, A gripping narrative, this should be the final alarm.

JOS: Desmogblog, funded by the Suzuki Foundation, has been ‘showcasing’ such legal attacks on scientists like you. Do you fear this new trend towards litigation is the inevitable course for the climate debate, and if so do you see any positive outcome for science?

TB: As noted above this is not new litigation but the intensity has increased. As you also know, people like Fred Singer received such threats a few years ago like me. I have mixed feelings about the activities. Personally it is intimidating because of the costs involved if nothing else. Legally it is a threat to free speech and, in my opinion, a misuse of the law to silence open debate. What has been interesting is the cultural reaction to the legal challenges. Americans immediately recognize it as a threat to free speech, while Canadians are slower to acknowledge that threat. In the long term I think exposure of these tactics, particularly in the context that they are losing the scientific debate will backfire. It will be seen for what it is a use of the law as a form of ad hominem attacks.

I am also concerned that the credibility of science in general is in jeopardy because too many scientists, including Suzuki, Weaver, Mann and others have been involved directly or indirectly in the process.

JOS: You obtained your doctorate in climatology from the University of London, Queen Mary College way back in 1983 before much of the hype began about global warming. Yet your critics deride you as a “shill for ‘Big Oil”’ paid to ‘attack’ Weaver, Mann and the IPCC. Is that true?

TB: This is absolutely false. Here is the story. Several years ago a group of professional people in Alberta, including engineers, hydrologists, geologists were very angry about the bad science involved in climate research a particularly through the IPCC and the Kyoto Protocol. We met at Calgary Airport and out of that came the group Friends of Science (FOS). Their problem was they were based in Calgary, Alberta, the Canadian centre of the oil industry. Also some of them, because of their expertise had worked in the oil patch. I warned them to focus solely on the science and to make sure all funding was at arms length. They did both, with funding being handled through the University of Calgary. I acted as an adviser and contributed articles as well as spoke a couple of times at their AGMs.

David Anderson, The Minister of Natural resources said that all Canadian climate experts had been consulted on the Kyoto Protocol. Eight of us, all climate experts traveled to Ottawa and held a press conference to say we had not been consulted. The Minister counteracted us by announcing that he would release the governments Kyoto policy in the house at the same time as the press conference. This was amazing since no previous mention was made despite questions by the media. His move had the effect of drawing away virtually all media attention.

I received $800 for travel and expenses and incorrectly thought FOS paid it. Subsequently it turned out that it was paid by APCO a PR company. Then it was disclosed that FOS had received a donation of, as I recall $12,000 from an energy company. It was I understand about 7% of their total donations, the rest was from private citizens. Very quickly my belief that I was paid by FOS was converted to the charge that I was therefore in the pay of FOS who were in the pay of the oil companies. The fact that $800 was about 6% of the $12,000 was of no consequence. The issue, as it appears with everything they do is to take something and distort ti or use it out of context knowing that once it is out there is not pulling it back. Hoggan’s skills as PR expert are manifest. It is also why I find it amusing that the very property of the Internet they exploit is being attacked by McConchie in his charges against the National Post on behalf of Weaver and his demand that I contact web sites that have repeated my article. The futility of that exercise was that most were not interested and also some of the sites they listed indicated they had merely Googled keywords and came up with completely inappropriate places like a tennis site apparently because my name is ball.

JOS: If Weaver and Mann have been given a ‘blank check’ to use expensive lawyers against you are you and your attorney confident you can win, and if so why?

TB: I am confident that if it comes down to a science debate I can carry the day. I am encouraged in this because to date all have consistently refused or avoided debate. I base this claim on the almost five year challenge the cross-Canada Roy Green radio show has held out for someone to debate, with no takers. My lawyer’s main concern is whether I can afford the defense. The problem is I have no choice because if I don’t respond or say I was completely at fault they would pursue damages for defamation and all costs.

I am also confident that my lawyer says that all charges of defamation are unfounded and the only error was the incorrect claim that Weaver had resigned from the IPCC. I believe it was an honest mistake because the information was provided in the article with citations. We have acknowledged and pre-emptively apologized for this error.

JOS: Who is paying your legal bills?

TB: I am. I have paid out about $10,000 so far and am rapidly depleting my savings, these are meager because the only research funding I received during my career was from the National Museum of Canada. This occurred primarily because my research of reconstructing past climate records was deemed historical climatology. At that time it did not fit the very definitive line between Arts and Science research. The museum understood the problem.

JOS: I’ve heard you’ve started your new blog and you’ll be selling climate science pamphlets to help raise donations to pay your legal fees. Is this true?

TB: Yes. I had worked through other blogs and web pages to date, but disappointments, including being fired from a magazine that I wrote a column for monthly for 17 years led me to go it alone. The firing was just one of many instances where I know from direct reports that it was due to pressure on management because of my skeptical views. The blog allows me control and the opportunity to point out what is wrong with many of the stories appearing in the media. I am planning a series of booklets of about 80 to 100 page in length that provide explanations of major issues in the debate. The idea is that they are short, will fit in a pocket, and deal with one issue at a time. Since they will appear as a series people will be able to have in hand the answers to major issues in the debate in language that non-scientists can understand. I hope to sell these booklets through the web site and use the money to offset the legal costs. Meanwhile we continue to survive on pensions (wife and mine) and small amounts made from public presentations.

JOS: You have recently been working to expose the vast discrepancies between what the IPCC science reports say and what is in the IPCC Summary for Policymakers. Is this an important area of attack for skeptics?

TB: Yes. The science report itemizes all the problems including limitations of data, lack of understanding of mechanisms compounded in the inadequacies of the computer models. The public perception is that the IPCC science is solid and certain that human CO2 is causing global warming and climate change. The difference between the public perception and what the Science report attest is deliberately achieved by the structure of the IPCC system that has a Summary for Policymakers released before the Science report is available. It is understandable that the Mainstream Media and the public are unaware of the differences but it is not credible that the scientists involved are unaware. Their silence is deafening.

JOS: What else has really struck a chord with you in the Great Global Warming Debate?

TB: People find it hard to believe that the entire world could be so easily misled by so few people. They, particularly Maurice Strong, established control of all government weather agencies by co-opting the World Meteorological Organization. This gave them control of data collection and archives within each nation then its global dissemination. Each national weather agency controlled politicians and funding of research. They directed funding to one side of the science debate thus allowing later the circular arguments that claims that most scientists and most publications prove the science. The national agencies also determined who served on the IPCC thus providing complete control. The group of scientists who controlled the entire process became so small that Professor Wegman was able to name names in his report to the US Congress. As he demonstrated, they controlled the peer-review process thus allowing them to further control the publication process.

JOS: What has been toughest part of your skeptic’s journey so far?

TB: It is very difficult, especially when you have paid such a high price financially, emotionally, and in people’s public and personal views. It is not easy when your children, wife and friends hear a radio person say, “Oh, Tim Ball, he is that nut job paid by the oil companies that doesn’t believe in climate change.” It is not easy when people tell you that you are a fool for not using your knowledge and abilities to go with the flow and make a lot of money. As someone said after Climategate it must be nice to be vindicated. I replied there is no pleasure in I told you so. It is not easy when you are very aware of the sacrifices your family has been subjected to because you are determined to demand proof and the truth. As Voltaire said, It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong.

Thank you, Dr. Ball and good luck with the fund raising for both your cases.

Visit Dr. Ball’s site ‘A Different Perspective’ where you can read more of Tim’s expert insight and donate to his legal fund that is being handled independently by the Frontier Centre and Tim’s attorney (‘Donate’ button is in top right corner of Tim’s page).

http://drtimball.com/

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Peter
April 8, 2011 10:43 am

Moira @9:49,
It’s exactly a week too late for April 1st

Lady Life Grows
April 8, 2011 10:44 am

“First, they ignore you. Then, they ridicule you. Then, they attack you. And then you win.” — Mahatma Gandhi
That is quoted all the time in my political circles. The alarmists are no longer able to ignore the actual scientist, so they are attacking, and below the belt at that.
The real well-being of the biosphere is on Ball’s side, so this is a truly worthy fight.
Our enemies like to bring up the non-issue of money. Or maybe it IS an issue. We do NOT get much funding from the oil companies. They DO have tons of funding, but we have been letting them shine in on as “public” or taxpayer funding, which sounds objective. FOLLOW THE MONEY.

April 8, 2011 10:50 am

I’m in…

Lady Life Grows
April 8, 2011 10:50 am

(above got sent before I was done)
Follow the money. AGW proponent keep talking about money. Why have we refused to hear them? There is something peculiar about their own funding. In effect, they keep saying so. It is about time we turned the mirror on them. Something will be scuttling for cover!
And as to the credibility of science, it should be under very severe scrutiny. What we have in this field is NOT science, and this has poisoned many other disciplines. I am almost in tears over what can be published now in biology. Are other disciplines unharmed by peculiar money distortions? Those of us who love real honest science, the thrill of exploration, of adventuring all day and getting paid for it and being worth more to humanity by playing all day instead of working–we have to attack what is now called “science.” The game isn’t any fun if we cannot announce our actual results.

afraid4me
April 8, 2011 10:51 am

Good Lord. Talk about a nuisance lawsuit, how thin-skinned is this guy, anyway?
What if George Bush had done this to everyone who called him names?

Gnomish
April 8, 2011 10:51 am

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:
Mann belongs in the state pen, not at Penn State.
– and anybody may quote me!

Reed Coray
April 8, 2011 11:06 am

Donation sent. Good luck in your fight against Mann.

gman
April 8, 2011 11:11 am

I give support to prof.Ball,he has been attacked over and over again and he does not waiver.Donation made and will donate again and again.Please keep this in the forefront as he truly does need help.I live in BC,the most frustrating province in canada .

Weather to farm or not
April 8, 2011 11:20 am

I just donated and would hope every other farmer would do the same. We could all use more of Dr. Ball’s common sense and a little levity never hurts either. Suzuki is one of the biggest threats to agriculture today and in my opinion an embarrassment to Canada and if he or his foundation are anywhere behind this that’s a double incentive to help out.

Sean Peake
April 8, 2011 11:36 am

Maybe Dr. Ball would like to see what Dellingpole has to say about his recent vindication?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100083071/uea-the-sweet-smell-of-napalm-in-the-morning/

Eric (skeptic)
April 8, 2011 11:39 am

Donated and noticed that our American dollar is now only worth 93.7 Canadian cents. Thanks a lot Ben!

April 8, 2011 11:43 am

Paul Coppin says:
April 8, 2011 at 8:03 am
Canadian defamation law is a bit squirrelly, and is used heavily by the left to shut up their critics. In Canadian defamation, no injury is required to be proved. Further, if the lawsuit is kept under $50,000 in damages sought, no discovery will be held. This latter part is regularly used to bankrupt critics, as the issues at the core of the alleged defamation will not be subjet to cross examination other than by what comes out in the actual trial. The victory here is the bankruptcy of the alleged defamer. . . [my emphasis]

Aside from justice for Prof. Ball—no small matter to be sure—the possibility of legal discovery into the claims and faux science of Mann and the Climate Alarmists would be the most significant outcome of this process. Is there some way under Canadian law that Prof. Ball’s lawyer could force the court into discovery, even if the damages claimed are under $50K?
Sending donation.
/Mr Lynn

TRM
April 8, 2011 11:44 am

Is there any way to make Dr Mann and his lawyers wait until after the Ken Cuccinelli investigation is complete? It would seem to be very relevant to the case at hand.
Just a thought.

Sun Spot
April 8, 2011 12:07 pm

One of the biggest users of the libel laws in Canada was Conrad Black, he would sue anyone who looked at him sideways. The left was very upset that they couldn’t criticize C. Black, now they (Suzuki et al) are using this same tool of libel chill to shut up their perceived enemies.

KnR
April 8, 2011 12:12 pm

Mann’s a first class ars* , when he falls there is going to be quite a que of people wanting to stick the boot in , some of which are actual on his side such is the ‘nature’ of the man.

Luther Wu
April 8, 2011 12:12 pm

I’d sue ‘im right back for calling me a ‘denier’.
This is exactly the sort of thing that needs to get aired in court. If the jury can be presented with evidence to expose what Mann, et al have been up to and the court isn’t agenda driven, then the AGW crowd will be exposed just that much more.
I don’t actually hold much hope for that consequence, due to the power of those in Gov’t. and behind the scenes who are pushing the whole agenda.

Trevor
April 8, 2011 12:28 pm

I have a problem with passwords on paypal so another way of donating would help.

CodeTech
April 8, 2011 12:38 pm

Over the years, I have donated money to exactly TWO places: WUWT, and now Dr. Ball. And I feel very, very good about both.
Anything that smears that idiotic twit suzuki is welcome by me. And as I’ve said, the man is personally odoriferous. Maybe he should use some of his foundation money to buy a shower.

P Wilson
April 8, 2011 12:40 pm

It seems Mann has an axe to grind, rather than a science to pursue. It would therefore be appropriate for Professor Ball to explain the scientific background and the context to the allegation, and to steer clear of personality and ad hominem. It is the scientific representations of Mann that are spurious and easily disprovable.

Craig W
April 8, 2011 12:46 pm

What … put the Bernie Madoff of AGW in prison … shocking!

April 8, 2011 12:54 pm

Best wishes to Dr Ball. Donation sent.

Richard Poor
April 8, 2011 1:01 pm

When it is all over, please publish a transcript of the trial.
Thanks!

hunter
April 8, 2011 1:36 pm

$50 CDN paid in .
Let’s get this going.
I cannot imagine anyone more deserving of legal defeat than Mann.

Coral
April 8, 2011 1:38 pm

Good luck Dr. Ball! Donation sent! Now kick Manns teeth down his throat! Figuratively of course.

April 8, 2011 1:50 pm

Dr. Ball is in a dis-advantage ($$$ to defend him self) until it gets to court where it is very hard to win a defamation case. The warmists will lose and be forced to pay Dr. Ball. Like the Human Rights Tribunals the system is used to force the defendant to ‘give-in’ early and cut thier losses.