Guest post by Ron Cram
Since Climategate, PachauriGate, GlacierGate and AmazonGate, a number of mainstream and skeptical climate scientists have been very critical of the IPCC. Some are suggesting the IPCC should be disbanded and future assessment reports should come from international science organizations. I would like to make a more modest proposal, a proposal which may have a chance to become reality.
Before you write this off as a hare-brained scheme, hear me out. The proposal is starting to get some traction. It was mentioned by Tallbloke (who liked the idea) and DeepClimate (who didn’t like the idea). It is a workable plan, but first let’s review the current situation.
Criticisms of the IPCC Process
After Climategate, many people have put forward criticisms and ideas to improve the IPCC process. Ryan Maue wrote a fine piece for ClimateAudit titled “What to do with the IPCC?” which describes some of the thoughts by different climate researchers. There are a number of criticisms we should consider more closely.
Roger Pielke is an ISI highly cited climatologist. He has criticized IPCC for a number of biases, including ignoring articles on problems with the surface temperature record (UHI and poorly sited stations) and ignoring or downplaying papers showing the climate change effect of land use/land cover changes (which he calls a first order climate forcing). Pielke has also criticized the IPCC for cherry-picking papers to “promote a particular conclusion on climate change.”
Judith Curry has criticized the IPCC for a number of reasons also. She claim the IPCC broke its own rules to accept papers prior to peer-review and assigned high-status positions to untested researchers who happen to make claims which support the IPCC narrative of impending doom. Curry is still worried about global warming but says she no longer feels the need to substitute the IPCC for her own personal judgment.
Eduardo Zorita is also very concerned about future warming, but he is concerned that uncertainty is being hidden from policymakers. He has criticized Climategate researchers and called on the IPCC to ban them from any participation in future IPCC assessment reports, a worthy proposal but one the IPCC is almost certain to ignore. Zorita has also written about the pressure put on climate scientists to toe the line. He thinks policy makers should be made aware of “the attempts to hide these uncertainties under a unified picture.”
Patrick Michaels claims the IPCC ignores the conclusions of peer-reviewed papers they find disagreeable. As evidence for this criticism, he points to Climategate emails.
Steve McIntyre’s experience as an IPCC reviewer has not convinced him the process is fair or unbiased. As a reviewer, McIntyre advised the IPCC not to truncate data but to show and fully discuss the Divergence Problem, but McIntyre’s recommendations were rejected out of hand. McIntyre seems to feel reviewer’s comments are routinely ignored by Coordinating Lead Authors.
Richard Lindzen, professor at MIT and member of the National Academy of Sciences, has served as a lead author for IPCC. He says the “most egregious” problem is the IPCC represents its reports as the consensus findings of thousands of scientists when none were asked if they approved of the final version of the report.
John Christy has also served as a Lead Author and has been critical of the IPCC’s selection process of Lead Authors because of the reliance on nominations by national governments. Christy says, “Indeed, the selections for the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report represented a disturbing homogeneity of thought regarding humans and climate.” Christy has proposed a living ‘Wikipedia-IPCC.’ While this is an interesting idea, anyone who has ever been involved in an edit war on Wikipedia knows how frustrating it can be.
Ross McKitrick has written about his frustrations in getting simple IPCC errors corrected. He is convinced IPCC data is contaminated with industrialization effects and he has called for the IPCC to be disbanded.
What does IPCC Chairman Pachauri say to all of this criticism? He says:
IPCC relies entirely on peer-reviewed literature in carrying out its assessment and follows a process that renders it unlikely that any peer reviewed piece of literature, however contrary to the views of any individual author, would be left out.
As the links above show, this statement is clearly untrue. A great many of the world’s finest climate researchers have expressed significant criticisms of the IPCC process and the final assessment reports. But it appears nothing will change unless an idea is put forward which is so compelling and so obvious a solution that it cannot be ignored. The alarmists have seized the apparatus of editorship and will not relinquish it.
A Modest Proposal
If policymakers want a less biased picture, there is only one way to achieve it. It is necessary for the IPCC AR5 to consist of a Majority Report and a Minority Report. Going into the process, no one will know which of the competing reports will be named the Majority Report and which the Minority Report. That decision will come after both reports are completed and voted on by the climate scientists involved.
Climate scientists will be asked to vote for the report they believe best represents a careful presentation of current science. The requirement the final report must gain the approval of contributing climate scientists will be new for the IPCC. It will require the Coordinating Lead Authors to be more responsive to reasonable reviewer comments and will tend to make the assessment report less alarmist. If it fails to make the report less alarmist, the “consensus report” may find their report named the Minority Report.
Here’s how the idea would work: Both reports would have its own set of Editors. One report would have traditional IPCC editors, the other will have editors who have been critical of the IPCC process. All climate researchers are free to contribute to either report in any invited capacity. Researchers do not have to choose a “team.” In fact, the safest career choice for climate scientists will be to contribute to both reports and be a reviewer of both reports.
This represents the best chance for the IPCC to fulfill its mission of providing policymakers with a balanced assessment of climate science.
Scope of the Effort
Working Group I of AR4 was dominated by relatively few scientists. The report lists two co-chairs, Susan Solomon and Dahe Qin. Another six people are listed on the editing team for a total of eight. Here is the breakdown of authors by chapter:
| Chapters | Coordinating Lead Authors | Lead Authors | Contributing Authors | Review Editors |
| Ch 1 | 2 | 6 | 26 | 2 |
| Ch 2 | 2 | 13 | 37 | 2 |
| Ch 3 | 2 | 66 | 0 | 3 |
| Ch 4 | 2 | 9 | 44 | 2 |
| Ch 5 | 2 | 11 | 53 | 2 |
| Ch 6 | 2 | 14 | 33 | 2 |
| Ch 7 | 2 | 13 | 60 | 3 |
| Ch 8 | 2 | 11 | 76 | 0 |
| Ch 9 | 2 | 7 | 44 | 3 |
| Ch 10 | 2 | 12 | 78 | 2 |
| Ch 11 | 2 | 15 | 40 | 2 |
| Totals | 22 | 177 | 491 | 23 |
If counted correctly and all of these were different people, there would be 721 total editors and authors. We know some people served in more than one capacity. For example, Kevin Trenberth served as Coordinating Lead Author of Chapter 3 and Contributing Author of Chapter 7.
The number of Lead Authors is high because Chapter 3 credited every involved scientist as a Lead Author with zero Contributing Authors. Normally, each chapter has 2 Coordinating Lead Authors, 2 or 3 Review Editors and 10 or 11 Lead Authors. So then AR 4 Working Group I was dominated by about 150 scientists and another 500 served as Contributing Authors.
In reality, AR4 Working Group I was dominated by about 150 climate scientists, but the most important were the eight editors and the 22 Coordinating Lead Authors. It would be very easy to duplicate this effort by climate scientists who have been critical of the IPCC.
The alternate report could be edited by the team of Roger A. Pielke, Syun-Ichi Akasofu, Eduardo Zorita, Judith Curry, Hans von Storch, John Christy, Garth Paltridge and Richard Lindzen. These names are only a suggestion but, a team like this could not be easily dismissed. It includes strong proponents of global warming theory, strong skeptics and luke-warmers. It has representatives from North America, Europe, Asia and Australia. It has experts on the Arctic, Antarctica and the tropics and specialists on oceans, atmosphere, radiative transfer and more.
An editing team of this strength would find it easy to attract top quality coordinating lead authors for each chapter. Roger Pielke alone has probably written papers with 150 (just a guess) different climate scientists as co-authors, all of whom respect him and would stand in line to join him in an assessment report. Richard Lindzen is a member of National Academy of Sciences and also commands tremendous respect. He also could attract many top climate researchers to write an unbiased assessment report. The same is true of Christy, Curry, Akasofu and the rest.
What if the IPCC refuses?
It is possible the IPCC will not bow to pressure to publish two reports. In that case, climate scientists simply come together to publish an alternative assessment report without the IPCC. Since IPCC authors and reviewers are not paid, funding is not a problem. Since the book-sized assessment report can be published on the internet, there are no real publication costs.
Yes, I am familiar with the Nature, Not Human Activity Rules the Climate. While it was written by an international panel of scientists, there were only 24 authors. It suffers by not getting the buy-in of a larger segment of the climate science community. I am proposing a full and fair assessment of climate science. It should be timed to be published at about the same time as, or shortly after, AR5.
It is hard to imagine that Pielke, Christy, Akasofu and others would not like to see an alternative assessment report to the IPCC – an effort dedicated to correcting the poor methods of the IPCC – a report which actually considers comments from reviewers. It is difficult to imagine they would not like to be a part of such an effort. And it is just as difficult to imagine that would not like to see their report put to the vote against AR5. This will be a time-consuming and unpaid effort. But it will be a grand effort and one that future generations will be very grateful for.
The question now is: Is this a project Pielke, Curry, Lindzen and others are willing to take on?
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Sorry if I am being thick, but why do we need any sort of IPCC process at all?
It was set up ostensibly to determine whether global warming would continue and evaluate what the effects would be.
23 years later it is clearly apparent that, for now at least, the warming has effectively stopped for some 15 years.
Would it not be sensible for them all to put their toys away and go home?
I am sure we can soon call them up again if the planet decides to warm again in a few years time.
While in the past I had advocated disbanding (or simply ignoring) the IPCC as hopelessly corrupt, I believe this suggestion is a good one.
In fact, I believe that John Christy actually proposed it at an IPCC meeting in Hawaii.
But there would need to be high-level political pressure put on the IPCC for this to happen. Also, the minority report MUST be based on peer-reviewed science. It does not matter if our side has only 1% of the publications. The vast majority of the publications do not deal with the central question of causation anyway.
You don’t need a peer reviewed publication to point out something like, “Virtually no research has been performed into natural, internal climate cycles as the source of most warming.”
“..Being somewhat skeptical of AGW, there is an advantage in maintaining the IPCC. Given the governance structure alone, the IPCC serves as a stone weight for those in support of the AGW theory..”
I second that. This is politics, not science. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake….
The modest proposal of having an IPCC Majority & Minority report(“The Almond Joy approach” – sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t) has merit but even the IPCC’s own reform recommendations will not be put in place until after AR5 is released.
What might be a better approach is:
US defunds IPCC
“U.S. Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (MO-9) today reintroduced legislation that would save taxpayers millions of dollars by prohibiting the United States from contributing to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), an organization fraught with waste and engaged in dubious science.”
http://www.powergenworldwide.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1357883185.html
The congress should continue the legislative process of defunding NASA GISS and all the many other redundant climate programs, sticking with one United States Global Change Research Program[USGCRP] annual assessment report as the umbrella. The USGCRP is already subject to Congressional Budget Office(CBO) audit which can be supplemented by outside science audit & congressional hearings. Science assessments & programs can be reviewed annually to determine their next year’s budget. Activist science will not be rewarded.
John A, superbly well said.
The IPCC must be disbanded, its parent organizations defunded, and its reports burned and their ashes scattered to the four CO2-laced winds.
And given the cupidity of politicians, the ideological blindness of the imbecile mass media, and the vested interests of rent-seeking financiers, this will only be a small first step.
I have given up caring what the US thinks about climate change. The rest of us get on with the science and leave our infant moron nation to choke on its own crap!
Craig Goodrich says:
February 13, 2011 at 6:11 am
John A, superbly well said.
The IPCC must be disbanded, its parent organizations defunded, and its reports burned and their ashes scattered to the four CO2-laced winds.
And given the cupidity of politicians, the ideological blindness of the imbecile mass media, and the vested interests of rent-seeking financiers, this will only be a small first step.
I am in full agreement with you guys.
I would go much further in that not only would I disband the organization but I would exile all the participants to the northern tip of Greenland.
Donna has detailed the many problems with the IPCC by quoting IPCC insiders, who have been granted anonymity.
http://nofrakkingconsensus.wordpress.com/category/climate-bible/ipcc-insiders-in-their-own-words/
The IPCC has contributed nothing of scientific (or political) value since its inception. You are only going to spend more money on a bad idea that is strictly political in the nature of its charter and organization and products. You’re trying to but a band-aid on a gushing leg amputation? Why? Not only do you need to STOP playing this game, you need to get to work doing science by the book –aka ‘The Rules of Science’. You add nothing by this! You waste much!
Sorry, Ron Cram. You are attempting to say that the value of the needle is worth keeping the entire hay stack. To the contrary, the U.S. must defund — withdraw from and refuse to pay anything to — the United Nations and any and all of its subsidiaries. There is no benefit to us or to the world from any of its activities. By housing and funding it, we simply give permission to “global” bureaucrats to attempt to rule the world without checks and balances. Let them find their own constituencies who wish to pay for their mischiefs and crimes.
Move it off shore to any country who believes it offers them any benefit.
One final question: why should the United States borrow from China to keep the United Nations-IPCC in business? Keep that question front and center for everything we fund that puts/keeps us in debt.
If you want more honest science from the ipcc, just start reducing their funding. They will come around. Works every time.
to improve the IPCC process.
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Why in this world would you want give credence to a bunch of crooks and liars……….
Craig Goodrich says:
February 13, 2011 at 6:11 am
John A, superbly well said.
The IPCC must be disbanded, its parent organizations defunded, and its reports burned and their ashes scattered to the four CO2-laced winds.
And given the cupidity of politicians, the ideological blindness of the imbecile mass media, and the vested interests of rent-seeking financiers, this will only be a small first step.
I second that entirely.
These guys have cost us enough.
So many problems with this proposal:
1. it smells of science by consensus – I thought science was by hypothesis and experiment,
2. it legitimizes the previous “consensus”,
3. it will create 2 camps when there may be many more than 2 views,
4. the 2 camps are likely to become internally focused on defending their views and eventually even the new camp will become closed to the scientific method (I know the “deniers” camp is objective, but the new guys coming in might not be (sarc)),
5. it falls into the trap of dueling with the weapons chosen by the other guy, based on their strength – the ability to mobilize the MSM,
Golf Charley says:
February 13, 2011 at 3:09 am
Scrap all funding for the IPCC, and then see which of the climatologists are sufficiently concerned about man made global warming to work for free.
No “free time off” from academic duties, no free trips to exotc locations. Zilch
No funding of NASA, Met ofice, NGO’s, Greenpeace, WWF etc for climate research.
The perceived problem will simply go away
I come to a similar conclusion Golf Charley. Take away all of the money and media fame and they’ll drop it like a hot potato. All of a sudden it will fade from prominence to obscurity.
Ron –
Look at this picture, please. It’s what I think the IPCC is today. (I think it’s also possible to see where it’s been the past few decades too.)
http://englishrussia.com/images/car.jpg
Now, tell us again, what is it that this suggestion is going to do for the good of “science”? For the IPCC? Who’s going to improve what? Who gains? Who doesn’t?
I have an idea… Why dosent the skeptic crowd just put together an intelligent paper filled with facts and clear evidence to disprove AGW… If you do that, people will inherently listen… And im sure everyone here will say that you slready have… But its my opinion that those papers fail fir a few reasons.. I believe people dont listen to “it’s nature not humans” and “climate change reconsidered” because there is no factual or scientific substance to them… For instance, recent warming trends don’t correlate with solar cycles so why publish a paper blaming that?. In addition, keep to the science and agree (not deny) with facts ( ie plant is warming). There is a really good Skeptical crowd but i think the fact denying (deniers) crowd is destroying their credability.. Anyway my point is that if you produce the best data, your theories will eventually rule. The world isn’t really corrupt… The best science does eventually win..
Is there another field of science that requires a political body such as IPCC to run it? Do they have as much controversy and as much questionable science so frequently? I do not know of one. IPCC is all about world energy control, money collection and political agendas. Science seems secondary. The science is top down agenda with predetermined findings [man is the cause of all our climate change problems]. Regional concerns and differences and unique situations get lost in the political priorities of the bigger players. Minority points of view are totally ignored. Vital temperature data is withheld and manipulated at will to support the official point of view.[ temperatures are only going up and man is to blame ] This is not science at all. It would be a lot better for each nation to do its own climate research to properly reflect what is happening in their unique part of the world and then meet to share findings first regionally , then continentally and finally world wide. The politics and policy decisions should not be part of the science process.
Richard Verney is correct. Let me put it another way. The culmination of the IPCC process is not the scientific report, but the Summary for Policymakers (SPM). This is where the politicians meet, and decide on the wording of the SPM. There cannot be two such meetings; there can only be one.
So, sorry, this idea is a non-starter.
This approach reminds me of the feeble attempts by the various Communist elites in the former Soiet block to hang on to power and privilege by offering cosmetics and table scraps once they saw the proverbial writing in the wall. Allowing a little bit of “constructive critique” for the intelligentsia and blue jeans and boot-legged Western music for the young’uns didn’t save them. The IPPC is a UN creation, which makes it by definition a fundamentally corrupt venture beyond repair by polite tinkering.
It is gratifying to see people discussing my proposal. I hope it challenges your thinking.
Jordan asks:
“My first question is what determines a “climate scientist” and therefore who is entitled to a vote? Equally who doesn’t get a vote?”
Good questions. I would say anyone who has contributed as author or reviewer to either this alternative report or any IPCC reports can vote. As it currently stands, the IPCC invites many scientists to participate and uses their credibility but does not ask them if they approve of the final report. The vote is the way to determine which report they approve of.
lapogus asks:
“But haven’t the NIPCC already done this?”
As I mentioned in main post, “Nature, Not Human Activity, Rules the Climate” (which was published by NIPCC) is similar but only had 24 authors. I am proposing an effort that will include hundreds of authors and reviewers, an effort of similar size to the IPCC AR5.
dbleader61 says:
“Jonathan Swifts famous book of the same name [A Modest Proposal] is brought to mind of course and he used it in an ironic sense – his proposal was anything but “modest”. It was not meant to be taken seriously at all.”
Actually, the title was used in a slightly ironic sense. I am proposing a very large effort by hundreds of people, but it is more modest than disbanding the IPCC – a goal which I think springs more from frustration than anything else. I am willing to admit that increased atmospheric CO2 should lead to more warming, but how much? I favor continued study of the climate and a reasonable assessment of the current science. The IPCC has failed. Setting up a competition will tend to make the IPCC less alarmist.
AussieDan writes:
“Problem one – this has already been canvassed.
It is very difficult to imagine that the team would not undermine this process.
Problem two – ask yourself, how would you vote?
Believers will vote for the AGW version, regardless of the merits of the arguements that the two reports contain.”
Dan, the point is the Team cannot undermine something they do not control. That’s why none of the editors are Team members. There are believers in AGW, but these are scientists who have proven themselves to be honest and have stood up to Team members in the past. Regarding your Problem #2, you are forgetting that a large number of scientists are lukewarmers. The proponents of CAGW will vote for the traditional IPCC report no matter what it says, but there is a large and growing number of lukewarmers among climate scientists. Based on the quality of the scientists involved, yes, I do believe it is possible for the alternative report could win and be named the Majority Report.
Gary Pearce and richard verney wonder “….And oh yeah, what would the summary for policy makers look like…”
Each report would have its own Summary for Policy Makers. In a perfect world, these would come out very similar. In a world of post-normal science, it is possible they look quite different. But if the idea works properly, the AR5 will be much less alarmist than it would have because it has to compete for the votes of the lukewarmers.
Dr. Spencer:
It is nice to hear you approve and that Dr. Christy had proposed this idea. I didn’t know that. I would like to see this idea discussed at the National Academy of Sciences and the Interacademy Council, on the floor of the US Senate and House of Representatives, at meetings of the AGU and APS. I firmly believe in an open marketplace of ideas. We have not had an open marketplace in climate science for some time, but the marketplace is opening. And I think the time if right to push forward on this.
“The alarmists have seized the apparatus of editorship and will not relinquish it.”
Nicely nutshelled.
I like the majority/minority idea, but it will never fly because there is too much at stake, too much hubris and CYA at the political level. I firmly believe (although I have no proof) that many, if not most, scientists would welcome something like this because most appreciate and respect the uncertainties inherent in science. However, politics requires certainty whenever big change is proposed, and imposing supranational wealth redistribution on the world is the biggest change ever. The IPCC reports are ultimately political justification, not scientific proof.
So the IPCC has been known to be corrupt and keeps claiming that they’re looking at papers to be fair, when in reality they’re just dismissing ones they don’t like. Also the fact that they say they let people review the IPCC report, when they really do not is outrageous.
If the IPCC writers/scientists/editors don’t get paid, then why are they refusing to look at some papers and figure out what’s really happening?? The IPCC should have been an organization with people from all over the world trying to find what is truly happening, and then report on it so we know the science behind it. Now it seems that they are politically driven and corrupt. If that is the case there is no point in keeping them around anymore.
I do like your idea of the 2 reports, but i feel that the ‘majority’ one will get abused and that they’ll claimi it to be much better than the minority one. These same people have already been known to be corrupt, and i don’t see that changing anytime soon unfortunatly
Why negotiate a surrender when we have them on the scientific ropes? Their proposed mechanism has been shown to be wanting. Climatology was originally developed to understand how our atmosphere works (which no one does fully, yet), and the IPCC clearly has a different agenda than understanding how the atmosphere works. It is the wrong horse to be backing. Especially if they are unwilling to make people aware of the uncertainties. Speaks volumes of the intent of the IPCC.
Time is the enemy of the IPCC and they know it.