Well the Telegraph article on rationing our modern lifestyle to reduce CO2 has made some waves since I covered it yesterday, fortunately it has not affected the attendees at Cancun. See the video below.
Re: Well the Telegraph article on rationing our modern lifestyle to reduce CO2 has made some waves since I covered it yesterday, fortunately it has not affected the attendees at Cancun.
Why am I not surprised?
Doug in Seattle
November 30, 2010 11:18 pm
The less I hear of what the bureaucrats are saying at Cancun, the more worried I get that they will impose their agreement upon us.
The US administration has already indicated they will implement an agreement with or without the niceties of congressional approval. The EU long ago drank their Koolaid. China, Russia and India will sign and simply ignore it.
I preferred the open reporting from Nopenhagen to the relative silence from Can’tcon.
Mark T;
Join me in spreading this little mnemonic:
His-hers-its; he’s-she’s-it’s.
Pick the right group, and U can’t miss! 🙂
OldBruin
November 30, 2010 11:37 pm
Alexander Feht says:
November 30, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Dear Tim,
“Rational” and “Rationing” are two different words with two different meanings.
Capisce?
First, that should be “rationalizing” and “rationing.” Second, no kidding!
According to them, we should do the “rationing” and they’ll do the “rationalizing” for their version of AGW (Alarmist Gone Wild, thanks Russ.)
David L. Hagen
November 30, 2010 11:41 pm
Soon they will not have to worry about forcing greenhouse rationing. Lloyds warns that nature will soon be forcing a reduction in conventional liquid fuels. e.g. by 2012 to 2015.
wobble
November 30, 2010 11:55 pm
Baa Humbug says:
November 30, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Mark is that for real or are you pulling a leg? A fair value box to pay for their meal?
Soldiers don’t have to pay for their rifle and ammo, helmets and body armour, which they need to fight, but they have to pay for a sandwich? nah!!!
Most DOD contractors would be prohibited from offering DOD personnel (civilian and military) a ride from the hotel to such a dinner/reception.
Brian H
November 30, 2010 11:56 pm
pat;
About that sulphur dioxide band around Venus, the close is
“We must study in great detail the potential consequences of such an artificial sulphur layer in the atmosphere of Earth,” says Jean-Loup Bertaux, Université de Versailles-Saint-Quentin, France, Principal Investigator of the SPICAV sensor on Venus Express. “Venus has an enormous layer of such droplets, so anything that we learn about those clouds is likely to be relevant to any geo-engineering of our own planet.”
In effect, nature is doing the experiment for us and Venus Express allows us to learn the lessons before experimenting with our own world.
Really, the experiment was done for us, a few million years ago by an advanced race on Venus ….
🙂
;p
Louise Gray’s Telegraph article inspired an utterly brilliant rant by a teacher which was reposted by Bishop Hill –
This article is the last straw. For six years I have had to bit my tongue while force-feeding this climate anthropogenic global warming nonsense into the increasingly sceptical minds of my science school learners. They all know it’s a scam. I know it’s a scam. They all know that we will be notionally 1010ed if we don’t all toe the party line, give the “government approved” answer in the exams, fill in the approved plans, but carry on as normal. I cannot seriously go into a school next term and carry on like this.
read the rest here
Inspired by aritcles such as this at P Gosselin’s No Tricks Zone (news about German parliamentatians branding scientists for the crime of scientific dissent) I am interested to know how many people are sceptical but feel the need to hide their views in their working life.
This poll asks simply, if you have doubts about the ‘orthodox view’ of climate change, how open are you about it? http://diggingintheclay.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/are-you-a-closet-skeptic/
Matt
December 1, 2010 12:31 am
I remember someone suggesting to ban iced water in US in restaurants – and here they serve nothing BUT ice… 🙂 I love that stuff 🙂
son of mulder
December 1, 2010 12:43 am
A few weeks of the UK’s early freeze and I can envisage rationing. Already I’ve heard on the BBC that Brussel sprouts for Christmas are at risk and sheep won’t be lambing so I’ve done my bit for the nation and turned up the heating.
poslednieje
December 1, 2010 12:51 am
Food rationing! They warn us for the cold that is coming.
morgo
December 1, 2010 12:53 am
save the last dance for me . this the last dance for globle warming
I wonder what sort of reception our bold Brit climate pioneers will get from their nearest and dearest when they get home from the beachfest?
Both the Tyndall Center (near Manchester) and CRU in East Anglia are paralysed by a few feet of freezing snow this morning.
Somehow I imagine that, if their wives have been digging the car out for the school and shopping runs, when Kev, Phil and the boys hop out of the airport limo, red eyed from pina coladas and belching from too many buffalo wings and bluefin tuna canapes – the reception might not be the moist eyed devotion they were expecting.
(NB -Personal experience has contributed to this theoretical scenario)
Peter Miller
December 1, 2010 1:08 am
As a very little boy, I remember the ‘Bonfires of the Ration Books’ in the High Streets of the UK. The disastrous economic policies of Atlee’s Labour government resulted in the UK – one of the winners in World War II – to be one of the last countries off rationing in Western Europe.
Rationing – except in the case of war – is not only a reflection of the stupidity of the economic system in which you live, but it is also a reflection of micro-managing, control freakishness of your political elite.
Rationing therefore makes perfect sense to AGW advocates, as i) it is stupid, and ii) it allows you to control the behaviour of the ‘little people’, especially those ‘little people’ who keep embarrassing you by pointing out how stupid you are.
For example: “So you’re a sceptic? OK, so that means no rations for you, until I am convinced you have seen the light!”
In the AGW believer’s vision of a new world order, just like in a communist state, there will only be two choices: i) submit to a stupid doctrine, or ii) starve.
I cannot believe that Paul Crutzen, the Nobel winner for chemistry, is “advocating” injecting large quantities of SO2 into our upper atmosphere.
These are the thoughts of a madman, not a Nobel prize winner.
JohnOfEnfield
December 1, 2010 2:10 am
Orwell would be proud of Louise Gray.
How can anyone write this crap and look at themselves in the mirror in the morning?
Am I supposed to believe it? If not why write it?
Tim
December 1, 2010 2:22 am
The ‘settled’ scientific debate – lost
The blind acceptance of the public – diminishing fast
The enforced mandatory laws – yet to come
Teaching largely social sciences ( and some science) in secondary schools for the past 37 years I can say that none of my colleagues were/are warmists. I looked at both sides of the argument in class but always concluded that runaway warmism was bollocks. When I left it gave me great pleasure to gather up all the warmist videos and literature and toss them into a skip bin.
John Marshall
December 1, 2010 2:36 am
Nothing like conspicuous consumption to join the great and good together!
May this meeting fail as well.
Re: Well the Telegraph article on rationing our modern lifestyle to reduce CO2 has made some waves since I covered it yesterday, fortunately it has not affected the attendees at Cancun.
Why am I not surprised?
The less I hear of what the bureaucrats are saying at Cancun, the more worried I get that they will impose their agreement upon us.
The US administration has already indicated they will implement an agreement with or without the niceties of congressional approval. The EU long ago drank their Koolaid. China, Russia and India will sign and simply ignore it.
I preferred the open reporting from Nopenhagen to the relative silence from Can’tcon.
CLIMATE ALARMIST PUSH FORCED RELOCATIONS AT CANCUN SUMMIT
http://www.prisonplanet.com/climate-alarmists-push-forced-relocation-at-cancun-summit.html
Mark T;
Join me in spreading this little mnemonic:
His-hers-its; he’s-she’s-it’s.
Pick the right group, and U can’t miss! 🙂
Alexander Feht says:
November 30, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Dear Tim,
“Rational” and “Rationing” are two different words with two different meanings.
Capisce?
First, that should be “rationalizing” and “rationing.” Second, no kidding!
According to them, we should do the “rationing” and they’ll do the “rationalizing” for their version of AGW (Alarmist Gone Wild, thanks Russ.)
Soon they will not have to worry about forcing greenhouse rationing.
Lloyds warns that nature will soon be forcing a reduction in conventional liquid fuels. e.g. by 2012 to 2015.
Most DOD contractors would be prohibited from offering DOD personnel (civilian and military) a ride from the hotel to such a dinner/reception.
pat;
About that sulphur dioxide band around Venus, the close is
Really, the experiment was done for us, a few million years ago by an advanced race on Venus ….
🙂
;p
Groovy party, man. I’ll bet nobody got to bed before 9:30.
Louise Gray’s Telegraph article inspired an utterly brilliant rant by a teacher which was reposted by Bishop Hill –
read the rest here
Inspired by aritcles such as this at P Gosselin’s No Tricks Zone (news about German parliamentatians branding scientists for the crime of scientific dissent) I am interested to know how many people are sceptical but feel the need to hide their views in their working life.
This poll asks simply, if you have doubts about the ‘orthodox view’ of climate change, how open are you about it? http://diggingintheclay.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/are-you-a-closet-skeptic/
I remember someone suggesting to ban iced water in US in restaurants – and here they serve nothing BUT ice… 🙂 I love that stuff 🙂
A few weeks of the UK’s early freeze and I can envisage rationing. Already I’ve heard on the BBC that Brussel sprouts for Christmas are at risk and sheep won’t be lambing so I’ve done my bit for the nation and turned up the heating.
Food rationing! They warn us for the cold that is coming.
save the last dance for me . this the last dance for globle warming
The dead Green Treaty
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/11/the_dead_green_treaty.html
I wonder what sort of reception our bold Brit climate pioneers will get from their nearest and dearest when they get home from the beachfest?
Both the Tyndall Center (near Manchester) and CRU in East Anglia are paralysed by a few feet of freezing snow this morning.
Somehow I imagine that, if their wives have been digging the car out for the school and shopping runs, when Kev, Phil and the boys hop out of the airport limo, red eyed from pina coladas and belching from too many buffalo wings and bluefin tuna canapes – the reception might not be the moist eyed devotion they were expecting.
(NB -Personal experience has contributed to this theoretical scenario)
As a very little boy, I remember the ‘Bonfires of the Ration Books’ in the High Streets of the UK. The disastrous economic policies of Atlee’s Labour government resulted in the UK – one of the winners in World War II – to be one of the last countries off rationing in Western Europe.
Rationing – except in the case of war – is not only a reflection of the stupidity of the economic system in which you live, but it is also a reflection of micro-managing, control freakishness of your political elite.
Rationing therefore makes perfect sense to AGW advocates, as i) it is stupid, and ii) it allows you to control the behaviour of the ‘little people’, especially those ‘little people’ who keep embarrassing you by pointing out how stupid you are.
For example: “So you’re a sceptic? OK, so that means no rations for you, until I am convinced you have seen the light!”
In the AGW believer’s vision of a new world order, just like in a communist state, there will only be two choices: i) submit to a stupid doctrine, or ii) starve.
German Skeptics hit back at Industry funded Greenshirts
http://notrickszone.com/2010/12/01/german-skeptics-hit-back-at-industry-funded-greenshirts/
The above video shows eco-hypocrisy at its finest. There are some interesting articles covering this very subject.
http://jerseynut.blogspot.com/2009/11/celebrity-climate-change-hypocrites.html
http://www.greenmuze.com/climate/heat/861-are-you-an-eco-hypocrite.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-478845/Whats-green-flies-An-eco-hypocrite-wont-stay-grounded-say-researchers.html
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/11/10/how-not-to-be-an-eco-hypocrite.html
I cannot believe that Paul Crutzen, the Nobel winner for chemistry, is “advocating” injecting large quantities of SO2 into our upper atmosphere.
These are the thoughts of a madman, not a Nobel prize winner.
Orwell would be proud of Louise Gray.
How can anyone write this crap and look at themselves in the mirror in the morning?
Am I supposed to believe it? If not why write it?
The ‘settled’ scientific debate – lost
The blind acceptance of the public – diminishing fast
The enforced mandatory laws – yet to come
Blame it on the tequila…buckets of it
Teaching largely social sciences ( and some science) in secondary schools for the past 37 years I can say that none of my colleagues were/are warmists. I looked at both sides of the argument in class but always concluded that runaway warmism was bollocks. When I left it gave me great pleasure to gather up all the warmist videos and literature and toss them into a skip bin.
Nothing like conspicuous consumption to join the great and good together!
May this meeting fail as well.