Canadian Senate kills climate change bill

Via CBC News, what a great irony for Climategate day:

Senate kills climate change bill

Last Updated: Wednesday, November 17, 2010

The Canadian Press

Senators have voted down an opposition bill to tackle climate change with just days to go before another round of United Nations talks in Mexico.

NDP Leader Jack Layton, whose party introduced the bill, says it’s “outrageous” an unelected Senate can kill what he says is important legislation.

The bill — the Climate Change Accountability Act — has spent the last year or so bouncing between the full House of Commons and its environment committee. The vote was late Tuesday.

The legislation calls for greenhouse gases to be cut 25 per cent below 1990 levels by 2020.

That’s more stringent than the Harper government’s goal of a 17 per cent emissions cut from 2005 levels by 2020, which is in line with the Obama administration’s targets in the United States.

Delegates from nearly 200 countries will meet in the resort town of Cancun later this month and try to broker an international climate-change deal.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/11/17/senate-climate-bill.html#ixzz15Z4F3lHv

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h/t to a bunch of people who read WUWT, so many I couldn’t choose who to credit with a hat tip, soo I’ll hat tip you all.

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Fishmarket
November 17, 2010 12:55 pm

Climate change pah!
No one tell us what to do – and all those lily livered species that are going extinct – we need to kick their ass!!

Tom in Florida
November 17, 2010 1:01 pm

“Delegates from nearly 200 countries will meet in the resort town of Cancun”
That, in a nutshell, is why they do what they do.

Wijnand
November 17, 2010 1:07 pm

, UK says:
November 17, 2010 at 12:14 pm
“Killing Bill C-311 shows a fundamental lack of respect for the many Canadians who care deeply about climate change. They had a right to have this bill debated properly,” Mitchell said in a news release.
NOW they want a debate?
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Hahaha, awesome! AGREED!

November 17, 2010 1:10 pm

Ken Boldt says:
November 17, 2010 at 12:26 pm
This is a complete slap in the face to democracy.

Good thing you are not a democracy then, isn’t it?

RichieP
November 17, 2010 1:11 pm

mike g says:
November 17, 2010 at 12:39 pm
‘You may have to do what we did in 1774’
And what we in GB seem to have forgotten we did in 1642 – and that too was all about taxes and the overwheening smug power of self-regarding tyrants.

CodeTech
November 17, 2010 1:14 pm

NDP Leader Jack Layton, whose party introduced the bill, says it’s “outrageous” an unelected Senate can kill what he says is important legislation.

I’ll make this completely clear: what is “outrageous” is layton’s faux surprise.
The Conservatives and their predecessors (Reform) have been pushing for YEARS to have a Triple-E senate: Equal, Elected, Effective. But layton seems to have some problem with that… unless it benefits him to pretend otherwise. Meh.
The only reason Prime Minister Harper is even going for the insanity is that 0bama threatened trade stuff if we didn’t go along with it. So we “go along” with it. Until 0bama is out on his butt in 2 years.

Galvanize
November 17, 2010 1:20 pm

John A
“Meanwhile what do I do about my own Parliament which voted virtually unanimously to cut CO2 emissions by 80% by 2050?”
Get your wallet out mate! It`s a one way ticket back to the Stone Age for us. 🙁

GAZ
November 17, 2010 1:27 pm

Good on ya Canada.
Here in Australia the Government is still talking tough about carbon tax. Prime Minister Gillard took the unusual step and wrote an ‘editorial’ article in the Sydney Morning Herald yesterday in an attempt to raise support for her ideology.

Most of the 130 comments (now) are from people who didn’t buy what she is trying to flog, but the majority of the Herald readers probably agree with her.
For those who are not close to Australian politics, this is the same prime minister who clearly stated before the August election that there will be no carbon tax under her government.

Australians – be afraid. Be very afraid.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
November 17, 2010 1:30 pm

This rash decision of the Canadian Senate may force others into taking drastic action.
Why, Quebec may threaten to secede!

Dartmoor Resident
November 17, 2010 1:33 pm

Well done, Canada (and beautifully timed!).
I’m another despairing Brit hoping to see some glimmer of sense in our parliament – which still wants to shut what’s left of our industry down while subsidising the desecration of our countryside with almost useless windmills and huge arrays of photovoltaic cells. Maybe – just maybe – they’ll start to see the folly of our unachievable target of a 80% cut in CO2 emissions as more countries bail out of similar suicidal agreements.

Vince Causey
November 17, 2010 1:42 pm

Ken Boldt says:
“They are representing the voice of the majority of people in this country, and that is what democracy is all about.”
Politicians representing the voice of the majority of the people? You must have read some primer on democracy written for third graders. Do the terms lobbyist, rent seeker, patronage and gesture politics mean anything to you?
In the US, the Tea Partyers sure told those elected representatives whose voices they were representing. And it certainly wasn’t the American people. If the house of commons, in your view, is representing the voice of the Canadian people, then the Senators must be guilty of protecting the Canadian people from the Canadian people.
Funny thing democracy.

Vanessa
November 17, 2010 1:45 pm

Well done Canada!! Please can you shove a bit of your common sense to us over the pond! Here in the UK our political elite say they want to cut 80% of our emissions. This will take us back to the 1800s !! No industries, no manufacturing, in fact, we must all stop breathing as this adds to our carbon dioxide!

Malcolm Miller
November 17, 2010 1:48 pm

The Australian government, upheld only by the Greens, is still mouthing off about having an economy-destroying ‘carbon’ tax. All our media are still supporting the IPCC and all the alarmist stuff. After all, ‘the world will go on just the same with the usual variations in weather’ doesn’t make headlines, sell newspapers, or inspire eager politicians (eager for votes and power, that is) to cool off about AGW. We have yet to find out what our own Senate will do.

CodeTech
November 17, 2010 1:53 pm

“Killing Bill C-311 shows a fundamental lack of respect for the many Canadians who care deeply about climate change. They had a right to have this bill debated properly,”

Here, let me fix that:

“Killing Bill C-311 shows a fundamental respect for the many Canadians who care deeply about having an income. They had a right to have this bill killed”

It’s all about perspective, right?

simpleseekeraftertruth
November 17, 2010 2:05 pm

Anybody know what swayed it?

Stephen Brown
November 17, 2010 2:10 pm

wws says: November 17, 2010 at 10:19 am:
I deeply regret to have to say, as others before me have pointed out already, that the lilly- livered, spineless so-called government (lower case intentional) of what was once Great Britain have already signed up to an Act of Parliament which requires this already poverty-stricken land to cut its ‘evil’ greenhouse gas emissions by 80% in just four short decades, at a cost of £18 BILLION per annum.
Oh, and to replace the power stations which the Central Committee of the EUSSR has deemed to ‘too dirty to live’ we have embarked on a spending spree purchasing windmills and solar cells, which have already been shown to be a failure of majestic proportions in climes far more suitable than the one under which we suffer. Our lights are soon to dim and fade into darkness, our houses will freeze and our population will decrease by just a little less than the amount demanded by the Greens.
The Socialist Utopia of the EUSSR continues to blight and, in many cases end our lives.
Would that the flash of brilliance which hit the Canadian Senate strike a goodly proportion of our feckless representatives!

KevinC
November 17, 2010 2:16 pm

Stephen Harper has been well ahead of this issue for years.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/30/harper-kyoto.html
Now is an opportune time to go for the kill.

November 17, 2010 2:25 pm

Today is the day to remind what happened one year ago, which became CLIMATEGATE at:
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/open-letter/#comment-11917
“FOIA said
November 17, 2009 at 9:57 pm
We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to be kept under wraps.
We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents.
Hopefully it will give some insight into the science and the people behind it.
This is a limited time offer, download now: XXXXXXXX
Sample:
0926010576.txt * Mann: working towards a common goal
1189722851.txt * Jones: “try and change the Received date!”
0924532891.txt * Mann vs. CRU
0847838200.txt * Briffa & Yamal 1996: “too much growth in recent years makes it difficult to derive a valid age/growth curve”
0926026654.txt * Jones: MBH dodgy ground
1225026120.txt * CRU’s truncated temperature curve
1059664704.txt * Mann: dirty laundry
1062189235.txt * Osborn: concerns with MBH uncertainty
0926947295.txt * IPCC scenarios not supposed to be realistic
0938018124.txt * Mann: “something else” causing discrepancies
0939154709.txt * Osborn: we usually stop the series in 1960
0933255789.txt * WWF report: beef up if possible
0998926751.txt * “Carefully constructed” model scenarios to get “distinguishable results”
0968705882.txt * CLA: “IPCC is not any more an assessment of published science but production of results”
1075403821.txt * Jones: Daly death “cheering news”
1029966978.txt * Briffa – last decades exceptional, or not?
1092167224.txt * Mann: “not necessarily wrong, but it makes a small difference” (factor 1.29)
1188557698.txt * Wigley: “Keenan has a valid point”
1118949061.txt * we’d like to do some experiments with different proxy combinations
1120593115.txt * I am reviewing a couple of papers on extremes, so that I can refer to them in the chapter for AR4”

November 17, 2010 2:27 pm

Today is the day to remind what happened one year ago, which became CLIMATEGATE at:
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/open-letter/#comment-11917
FOIA said
November 17, 2009 at 9:57 pm
We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to be kept under wraps.
We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents.
Hopefully it will give some insight into the science and the people behind it.
This is a limited time offer, download now: XXXXXXXX
Sample:
0926010576.txt * Mann: working towards a common goal
1189722851.txt * Jones: “try and change the Received date!”
0924532891.txt * Mann vs. CRU
0847838200.txt * Briffa & Yamal 1996: “too much growth in recent years makes it difficult to derive a valid age/growth curve”
0926026654.txt * Jones: MBH dodgy ground
1225026120.txt * CRU’s truncated temperature curve
1059664704.txt * Mann: dirty laundry
1062189235.txt * Osborn: concerns with MBH uncertainty
0926947295.txt * IPCC scenarios not supposed to be realistic
0938018124.txt * Mann: “something else” causing discrepancies
0939154709.txt * Osborn: we usually stop the series in 1960
0933255789.txt * WWF report: beef up if possible
0998926751.txt * “Carefully constructed” model scenarios to get “distinguishable results”
0968705882.txt * CLA: “IPCC is not any more an assessment of published science but production of results”
1075403821.txt * Jones: Daly death “cheering news”
1029966978.txt * Briffa – last decades exceptional, or not?
1092167224.txt * Mann: “not necessarily wrong, but it makes a small difference” (factor 1.29)
1188557698.txt * Wigley: “Keenan has a valid point”
1118949061.txt * we’d like to do some experiments with different proxy combinations
1120593115.txt * I am reviewing a couple of papers on extremes, so that I can refer to them in the chapter for AR4

John Nicklin
November 17, 2010 2:38 pm

GAZ says:
November 17, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Good on ya Canada.
Here in Australia the Government is still talking tough about carbon tax. Prime Minister Gillard took the unusual step and wrote an ‘editorial’ article in the Sydney Morning Herald yesterday in an attempt to raise support for her ideology.
Most of the 130 comments (now) are from people who didn’t buy what she is trying to flog, but the majority of the Herald readers probably agree with her.
For those who are not close to Australian politics, this is the same prime minister who clearly stated before the August election that there will be no carbon tax under her government.

Don’t dispair Gaz, in my home province of British Columbia, our Premier instituted a new sales tax after stating outright during the election that he had no intention of doing so. His approval rating dropped through the floor, he has since resigned and his party will be lucky to win the next election. Its unfortunate, because of the two parties, he led the less insane one. But he learned that its not nice to lie to the voters. Maybe your prime minister will learn the same lesson.

RockyRoad
November 17, 2010 2:40 pm

John A says:
November 17, 2010 at 11:28 am

Meanwhile what do I do about my own Parliament which voted virtually unanimously to cut CO2 emissions by 80% by 2050?

You could get Parliament to pass a law that the wind blows at a constant 25 knots 24/7/365. That should do it.

Alan F
November 17, 2010 2:49 pm

CodeTech,
Could not have said it better myself. Kudos!

IanB
November 17, 2010 2:49 pm

What is “outrageous” is that Jack Layton and his wife, both MPs, claimed over a million dollars in expenses last year.

Robuk
November 17, 2010 3:06 pm

Conservative senators caught their Liberal and unelected counterparts off-guard on Tuesday by calling a snap vote on Bill C-311, the Climate Change Accountability Act introduced by Bruce Hyer.
That is sooooooo sweet.

November 17, 2010 3:06 pm

Great news! Another example of climate sanity seeping in back. Hope to hear more of this development from other countries.