NOTE: Updates have been posted below, including the tally.
I need your help, because they need your help. Please read this whole story and consider if you can help. WUWT readers may recall this story: Death of a Feedlot Operator …in which the anal-retentive government of West Australia has “licensed” a family farm out of operation due to some shonky science and arbitrary application of the “sniff test”. Yes that’s right, cattle farms smell, so do pig farms, as does any farm. But now it’s reason to shut one out due to baseless complaints from the local greens. And, it all started when Matt Thompson started doubting global warming and talking about it publicly.
I’ve never made a plea to the WUWT worldwide readership for help, I’m making one now to donate to these people to stave off eviction. If nothing else, do it to spite the government of Western Australia and the greens (Environmental Defender’s Office WA) that have turned farming into a “crime”. The real crime is that government listens to these hotheads. From Jo Nova’s website:
4 days notice! The Thompsons are served notice of eviction.
Will, Abbey, Janet, Luke, Matt and Kate on their farm. April 2010
From Agmates (and many emails), news comes that The National Bank served notice today that the Thompsons have to be off their property in four days.
This is a family with four young children, who ran a profitable business; they filled in every form and ticked every box. They have broken no laws, and there are no outstanding environmental notices, but yet, they came to Western Australia with their life savings and they are losing everything. (Note: Matt and Janet are from the USA, Hugo, Oklahoma – Anthony)
Don’t bring your investment dollars to Western Australia — not while the Department of the Environment effectively controls the state.
The Thompsons waited a full year to get Works Approval for a 15,000 head feedlot. After they had already committed the capital, the rules kept shifting. They discovered they’d need ongoing licenses as well. After several years of ramping up the capacity on these licenses, things changed. Matt spoke out as a skeptic. About that time, the renewals were delayed, then the numbers were cut in half, and new conditions were added that were impossible to meet. To feed and supply water for thousands of cattle the Thompsons had to sign agreements in advance to pay for hundreds of thousands of dollars of goods they could not use, but had no way of knowing that at the time. When they appealed, it took 18 months to get “vindicated” but by then there was only six months left on the “two year” license. Not enough to set up all the contracts and run a business. The new sub-clauses meant that even licenses for a qualified “10,000″ head had vague untestable conditions: the license you have when you don’t have a license.
I am ashamed of what our government has done.
If the media won’t cover this, shame on them too.
I’ve written before in more detail:
Tyranny: How to destroy a business with environmental red tape
Smell that evidence
There is much discussion on Agmates, and a call for donations (see below):
URGENT HELP – Thompson family in trouble
NAB had not long ago told Matt & Janet that they were not going to move on them before December 31st. But it appears that they have changed their mind.
Those familar with previous discussions on Agmates will know that the Thompson family have no funds available to them to face being thrown out on their ear by the bank. Donations are needed ASAP to help provide a roof over the children’s head. Please consider donating what you are able into the following bank account that has been set up so as any donations can’t be seized with all other assets of Matt & Janet including the few dollars left in their own bank account.
Account Name: L&S BallardDescription: Kate/Aby/Will/LukeBSB: 016 770Account Number: 439863697ANZ: Bintamilling Arcade, Egerton Street, Narrogin, Western AustraliaSWIFT Code: ANZBAU3M
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For International money transfers, or payment by credit cards, Jo Nova has set up a special PayPal donation button (in US dollars). This will go to her bank account, with an ID that means it will be recorded as a donation for Matt and Janet. She will transfer it to their account. I have complete trust here. Please give anything you can, no amount is too small.
I’m confident WUWT readers can turn this around.
LINK TO PAYPAL DONATION HERE
You can also use your credit/debit card if you don’t have a PayPal account.
(note this takes you to an intermediate page, which I have to do since wordpress.com won’t allow me to insert the full code).
Also for those who have other websites, or who frequent other forums, bulletin boards, and blogs, I ask your help in getting the word out.
As Michael D. Smith writes in comments below:
Let’s show the Aussie Government what “We The People” can do…
Thanks for your consideration – Anthony
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UPDATE1:
Dale Stiller writes in comments: Thank you all who have sent donations for the Thompson family. You can also help by emailing your disgust to Main Stream Media in Western Australia. Below are a few email addresses.
W A Newspaper contacts:
The West
http:au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/contact/
(does not give a Perth email, only phone no (08) 94823111 )
Email for Sydney Rep Office (The West) cdsilva@wansydney.com.au
Western Australian statewide rural newspaper
W A Radio – Perth National:
ABC News Radio – http://www.abc.net.au/newsradio/about/contact.htm
ABC News Rural – wwwabc.net.au/rural/contact/
ABC Midwest & wheatbelt http://www.abc.net.au/contact/contactabc.htm
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UPDATE2:
Janet Thompson responds to the issues raised by some saying she said in a public meeting: “there will be no odour”. Given Matt’s and Janet’s extensive involvement in animal agriculture, including feedlots and saleyards, in the States prior to coming to Western Australia, I find it hard to believe that she’d say this. Here is an excerpt of her response:
The myth has been propagated that I stated at our original open public meeting in March 2002 that I made the statement that there would be no odour. In considering any proposition in which animals are to be located in one area, it is ludicrous for anyone to state that there would be no odour. (And, I submit, for anyone to blindly believe such a statement.) I know places that have one horse, and there is odour to manage. Whatever statement that was made that night has been taken out of context, and now many people who were not even in attendance that night are repeating this myth. We spoke about manure smelling when it was wet, and for that reason, found it desirable to be located on the south side of town, when prevailing winds are away from town. We were always open about this, and are gravely disappointed in friends who have not come to us to discuss things, but instead worked actively behind our backs to wreak havoc in our lives, and to attempt to destroy our livelihood, the livelihoods of our employees and contractors, and our life savings.
Here’s the document as PDF. FYI, You’ll see today’s date on it since I made the PDF today from a Word DOC sent to me.
Thompson Response to community members LCCC
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UPDATE3: HOW TO WRITE A LETTER Reader Mark from Australia writes and provides sample letter ideas for contacting MP’s in Australia and members of the media:
People should reword as they desire and add questions if they have any specialist knowledge or expertise, especially in the feedlot business. They MUST keep it civil. People should send FOUR SEPARATE letters or emails. One to each Minister. That is important. Each MUST be answered so they must put their return addresses on them. I will be sending mine as letters, today.
Be sure to edit this to cover the points you want to include and your own words. Note that simpler hand written letters are likely to carry more weight. It is important to distinguish between EDO Environmental Defenders Office (which is the Non Governmental Organization) and DEC Department of Environment and Conservation (which is the state department of environment and conservation, which is responsible for licensing and the decisions that have been made). In that vein, most of the questions should be about DEC, not EDO (although the funding ones are great to ask).
Premier The Honourable Colin Barnett MEc MLA
Minister for State Development
24th Floor, Governor Stirling Tower,
197 St Georges Terrace,
PERTH Western Australia 6000
Tel: (08) 9222 9888 Fax: (08) 9322 1213
e-Mail: wa-government@dpc.wa.gov.au
The Honourable Brendon Grylls MLA
Minister for Regional Development & Lands; Minister Assisting the Minister for State Development
9th Floor, Dumas House,
2 Havelock Street,
WEST PERTH Western Australia 6005
Tel: (08) 9213 7000 Fax: (08) 9213 7001
e-Mail: Minister.Grylls@dpc.wa.gov.au
The Honourable Terry Redman MLA
Minister for Agriculture and Food
Address: 11th Floor, Dumas House, 2 Havelock Street, WEST PERTH WA 6005
Telephone: (08) 9213 6700 Fax: (08) 9213 6701
e-Mail: Minister.Redman@dpc.wa.gov.au
The Honourable Donna Faragher MEd(Hons) BA(Hons) GradDipEd JP MLC
Minister for Environment
10th Floor, Dumas House,
2 Havelock Street,
WEST PERTH WA 6005
Tel: (08) 9213 7250 Fax: (08) 9213 7255
e-Mail: Minister.Faragher@dpc.wa.gov.au
MINISTERIAL REQUEST – NARROGIN BEEF PRODUCERS
Background Information
Matt and Janet Thompson moved from the USA to establish a feedlot business about 4 km outside Narrogin, WA. The business started operation in 2003 and employed about 20 locals at peak. This represents a success for WA and a success for Australia in attracting foreign investment.
Following his publicly expressing doubt as to the effect of the cattle industry on ‘global warming’ in June 2008, the West Australian Environmental Defenders Office (EDO) took an interest in complaints by Narrogin greens against the Thompson’s business.
In 2008, the Thompson’s applied to the West Australian Department of Environment and Conservation for an increase in their licence capacity from 10,000 to 15,000 head. Instead, the DEC cut their licence conditions back to 6,000 head, effectively closing the business by removing its economies of scale. The feedlot remains closed. This closure also played a role in the suicide of one of the employees, Mr Lindley Boseley.
The reasoning given by EDO on use of regulation to destroy this business is not available but seems subjective, indeed, specious (Reference page 2 of EDO newsletter at http://www.edowa.org.au/newsletters/200803Newsletter.pdf).
The EDO newsletter is itself disturbing. It displays the hallmarks of both a ‘captured bureaucracy’ and an issue-motivated NGO. It is positively triumphs the ‘Green cause’.
Questions
1.The Environmental Defenders Office is jointly funded by the West Australian State Government and the Federal Government. Why is WA funding this organisation when it seems to be little more than an arm of ‘The Greens’?
2.On what scientific grounds was the Thompson’s licence capacity reduced from 10,000 head to 6,000 head?
3.Was the viability of the Thompson’s business considered by the EDO in making this determination?
4.What are the scientific or other relevant qualifications of those who made this decision within the EDO?
5.Was this decision subject to review by anyone with skills in determining its impact on the viability of the Thompson’s business?
a.If so, who, and what are their business qualifications and experience?
b.If the EDO decision was not subject to review to determine the impact of the decision on the Thompson’s business by a person with appropriate business qualifications and skills, why not?
c.If the EDO decision included no business impact review from a person qualified to determine its impact on their business, were ‘the rules constantly changed’ in respect of the Thompsons applications?
i.If so, why and on what grounds?
ii.If so what were the qualifications of the person(s) making these ‘rule changes’?
d.Was ‘natural justice’ denied to the Thompsons in their application?
e.What appeals processes were available to the Thompsons?
f.Were they made aware of these in time to make effective use of them?
6.Why are the Thompsons being evicted from their property on 21 September 2010 instead of in December?
7.Are the WA Ministers for State Development, Agriculture, and State Development and Lands aware of the ability of the EDO to close any WA agricultural business on apparently subjective and/or ideological grounds?
8.Are the appropriate WA Ministers (State Development, Agriculture, and State Development and Lands) aware that this case is now attracting very adverse international attention to WA, due to the Thompsons being international investors in WA?
9.Are the appropriate WA Ministers (State Development, Agriculture, and State Development and Lands) aware that this case is causing damage to WA’s ‘brand’ as a safe place for international investment in agriculture?
10.Is there a link between Mr Thompson’s ‘offence’ against a Green ideological belief in ‘global warming’ and the EDO’s patently apparent belief in that same ideology?
11.Was Mr Thomson’s business targeted by the EDO on the basis of this ideology?
12.Did the ‘Green ideology’ so apparent in the EDO’s publications play any role in their determination?
a.If so, why is ‘Green ideology’ permitted to destroy a business and 20 jobs?
b.If not, what was the scientific basis for their decision to deny their application for an increase in license numbers from 10,000 head to 15,000 head?
13.Will the WA Government review the funding and operations of the EDO to prevent further damage to WA’s ‘brand’ as an investment destination?
Yours Sincerely
NAME
ADDRESS
DATE
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UPDATE4:
Jo Nova reports that WUWT readers have given generously! Over $27,000 was raised in two days from 670 donations. My humble and sincerest thanks to you all for coming to their aid when asked. Jo Nova reports that the fund will go into the Thompson children’s names.
Of course the alarmist community has been silent, there’s not been one word of support that I’m aware of.
See the latest from Jo Nova of how the DEC defines ditches at farms, and you’ll understand the sort of green tyranny the Thompsons face.
People should reword as they desire and add questions if they have any specialist knowledge or expertise, especially in the feedlot business. They MUST keep it civil.
People should send FOUR SEPARATE letters or emails. One to each Minister. That is important.
Each MUST be answered so they must put their return addresses on them. I will be sending mine as letters, today.
Hope this helps.
If you must refer to me, then please just keep it as ‘Reader Mark from Australia’
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In my experience, the smaller the egg the better the taste although this analysis seems to have been restricted to chickens only. Where and under what conditions the egg was created seems to have little bearing on the flavour IMHO!
Please note that this survey is biased due to the fact that I like chicken eggs and am just about to consume several of them:-)
Made my donation and hope that the many small donations add up to enough to help the Thompsons. This assault on freedom is also happening in the USA. The environmental laws as they are written permit the bureaucrats to label the water flowing off your roof gutters as a “navigable stream” if it runs into a ditch or gully that could eventually get anywhere near a large body of water. And for the person (city boy?) who is sure that feedlots make cattle bad-tempered, temperment is greatly determined by breed. We had a very small cow/calf herd which had 10-15 acres of Illinois grass PER COW in which to roam. And the Charolais-Angus crossbreds we started with were definitely not mild mannered until we bred up to Simmental – a wonderfully placid breed. Anyway, thanks Anthony and please keep us posted on the Thompsons’ progress in their battle with bureaucracy.
Done. Wish I could do more.
The sanction of the victims is over! Productive people of the world rise up and unite to throw off the yoke of slavery to all the looters and moochers!
There is something smelly here and it is not this farm. Who stands to benefit if the Thompsons are gone? A bit tight here but sent $50 and there’s another $50 waiting if needed.
ddpalmer, too bad you don’t eat eggs. One wonders why. Then again one doesn’t really care.
Re the ostrich mentality. Well, I don’t think so, but you may be right. However, given the bombardment of disaster scenarios from BOTH sides of any ecological argument nowadays, one can forgive anyone that. I’ll bear your comments in mind when I think about this topic but, for now, I think we have to agree to differ. I think we’re starting from different premises.
PS I lived in Oxford, UK when the animal rights nutters held a big demo outside the Zoology Dept. They were tolerated by the police (freedom of speech) but given short shrift by everyone else. Maybe that’s partly why I don’t feel so insecure. Medical research has proved many times over that an omnivorous diet is the healthiest for humans. WUWT and similar sites are trashing the climate nonsense good and proper. I think the same would happen with regard to any attempt to force vegetarianism on the masses.
Not a mention about Matt and Janet Thompson in the Perth news, 50 comments about banning kites and digging holes on the beach…
BEACHGOERS could soon be fined up to $500 for flying kites, using oversized umbrellas, taking photographs or digging holes at a popular Perth beach.
Under a proposal to be considered by the Town of Cottesloe in Perth’s western suburbs this month, 60 clauses will be added to the council’s beach law, banning a total of 100 listed activities at the famous beach.
According to an officer report, the current law lacks in certain areas and requires more specific controls over beach activities.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/kites-toys-and-alcohol-could-be-banned-at-beach/comments-e6freooo-1225927869151
“ddpalmer, too bad you don’t eat eggs. One wonders why. Then again one doesn’t really care.”
Well then one of one’s statements is false. Either one wonders why or one doesn’t care. If one didn’t care then why would one bother starting with saying one wonder why, or even why one would bother making any comment on the issue at all if one didn’t care?
So since one obviously does care, I am allergic and really don’t like the feeling of my throat swelling shut while I wonder if this will be the time it completely blocks my airway.
Based on one demonstration you dismiss the whole movement? Well in the US many farmers are much more worried than you. The animal rights groups have been trying to establish non-elected state boards to oversee farms and enact regulations on how the farms operate. These boards would be required to contain a certain percentage of animal rights members.
In Ohio, farmer’s groups got the jump on the AR groups by getting a ballot initiative passed that created the Ohio Livestock Care Standards Board, with no required AR representation; current members are veterinarians, farmers and agriculturalists. If the AR groups had succeeded they would have not just been in position to influence farm regulations but would have actually been able to make and interpret those regulations. And these are groups with the avowed purpose of shutting down all animal farms.
You may call my point alarmist, but if so it seems a large percentage of US farmers are alarmists. Although to me it looks more like the US farmers are realists who want to defend their rights and livelihoods. Just like the Thompsons.
ddpalmer, thanks for the info and for correcting my ambiguity. I often wonder why people don’t eat this or that but there are so many reasons (and excuses) that it can be tiresome. Your reason isn’t tiresome and I’m glad you know about it and can avoid problems.
Here in the UK, it seems to me that the most vocal people fighting for humane treatment of animals are meat producers (farmers) and meat eaters who realise that human beings are just one of innumerable animals who eat other animals, but who don’t want farmed animals (or hunted ones for that matter) to suffer unnecessarily. The point I’m trying to make is that these people are not extremists. Maybe I’m being complacent, though I don’t think so, but I don’t think extremist anti-meaters will make significant progress because too many people like to eat meat and know it’s good food and too many big businesses will resist everything beyond humane treatment.
As with all the climate hoo-ha, ultimately I feel optimistic. People start to resist unsupportable hype and, given time, things will improve for both people and farmed animals.
Meantime, I wish all humane farmers well.
@ur momisugly ddpalmer
Mate seriously GET A GRIP!!
The issue here is NOT animal welfare!! It is HUMAN BEINGS!!!!
Sorry that you dont like feedlots or eggs have an adverse affect on you – for the record – and it IS documented – RSPCA checked out the feedlot and said how amazing it was and how the animals were in impeccable condition and HAPPY!!
So can we get back to the family who is at risk here – 4 children whom we need to be supporting – 2 young American / Australian citizens who have worked hard, complied with everything which have been mistreated (NOT ANIMALS)!
Australian media has still not (exceptions Jo Nova and Tim Blair – Daily Telegraph) made ONE article – why? I have been emailing news outlets, media in all forms, talk back raidos – NOTHING – This is WRONG –
Then, here you are prattling on about something OFF topic – please – another thread mate 🙂
@Wild Violet
Dude seriously, TAKE A CHILL PILL.
I am not off topic and unless you are Anthony Watts or one of the moderators you can’t make that call anyways. The issue is government bureaucrats using their interpretation of regulations to shut down a feed lot, an objective of many animal rights groups. This directly ties into similar issues in the US. Yes there is family involved, and I have already made a substantial donation, but merely solving their immediate problem is almost worse than doing nothing, because the same thing will continue to occur across Australia, the US and other countries unless the underlying problem is solved.
I like how you single me out for going ‘off-topic’-please-why don’t you mind your own business buddy 🙂
@ur momisugly ddpalmer
No i am not Anthony Watts or a moderator. I am just like you (without your egg problem that you shared)
I am not singling you out – lets just clarify for the sake of the Thompsons – maybe you have some information that the rest of us dont?
You wrote,”The issue is government bureaucrats using their interpretation of regulations to shut down a feed lot, an objective of many animal rights groups.”
Can you show a link that substantiates the latter “an objective of many animal rights groups” in this case against the Thomspons?
The documentation that i have read here and on Jo Nova’s site does not (unless i have missed this) imply this anywhere that i have seen.
Agreed, “merely solving their immediate problem is almost worse than doing nothing, because the same thing will continue to occur across Australia, the US and other countries unless the underlying problem is solved.”!
I too have helped the family – so we are even here – along with many others – so thats cool – people have have helped have done so of their own free will.
I did not specifically “single you out” as you have written – you have written many references to feedlots and you dont like them – fine – that is your point of view on animal welfare -no problem – but we all are writing on the www so therefore we all able to engauge in discussion.
The Thompsons have chosen this medium as well – as they had no alternative.
The DEC and EDO need to be held accountable for their actions. There is also an update about this on Jo Nova’s site today as well – unbelievable as it still keeps unraveling.
So as for, “why don’t you mind your own business buddy :)” Pfft – i prefer either “Dudette” or “Buddyette”! – tic ! This debacle is all of our problem – US or Australia – we are over regulated imho.
Good to read your thoughts – have a nice day:)
Any word on how the Thompsons are doing and if anything positive has happened?
It seems to me that commenters above are actually on the same page as it relates to animal rights activism playing a part in what is happening. Bottom line is that we are engaged in a legal activity and were given approval to construct a 14,940 head beef cattle feedlot in this location.
Is this about the environment or not? If we have broken environmental laws, we should be charged and allowed to defend ourselves. If we have NOT, we should be allowed to operate our business without conditions that make it impossible to function.
John in CA, thanks for your query. The pressure put on by all of you seems to be working, at least to some extent. As I just posted on JoNova’s site, we’ve had calls from federal and state politicians, and it looks like some of them are meeting with NAB soon. And, we’ve not been kicked out of our house yet. People power is strong. Snowflakes make a snowdrift, and raindrops make a flood. Each of your drips matter. (That was a joke!)
The peace of mind we’ve been gifted through your donations and moral support is priceless. We can never thank you enough, and we will work hard to ensure that your generosity and trust is not misplaced.
Kind Regards,
Janet
Janet H. Thompson,
Fine comment. Thank you for that. It makes our efforts seem worthwhile.
I very much want to see the authorities back down on this issue. And they should; they have nothing to gain, and everything to lose. We’ll soon see if they are representatives of the citizens — or something entirely different.
The situation has worsened – http://joannenova.com.au/2010/09/minister-of-the-environment-and-queen-of-wa/comment-page-1/#comment-92061
“Bottom line is that we are engaged in a legal activity and were given approval to construct a 14,940 head beef cattle feedlot in this location. ”
Mrs Thompson, you’ve never been legally licenced for cattle beyond 6,000 heads — there’s no known document to show otherwise. You’ve fully understood the limitations, as indicated by your husband’s speech at a public meeting, but you chose to continue with the expansion scheme regardless. If you’re planning to run a successful large business, you will not believe in any spoken word, but demand everything in black on white.
Since by your own words you’re now surrounded by enemies at your present location, I wish you luck with your future PR. Perhaps the Bank will now forget the money you owe, the regulator and the industry’s self-control expand you to 20,000, and the local community welcome you with open arms.
@ur momisugly Virveli says:
Nice try mate 🙂
Wild Violet, have you been shown the actual 10,000 licence then?
Virveli, how about you show me yours first?
Oh bugger – just thought i would help with a link “Virveli” http://joannenova.com.au/about/the-thompsons/
Quick question – you dont have to answer, are you a NAB employee, or DEC or EDO or one of the minority complainant’s?
Virveli, this has been answered more than once before, but I’ll do it again:
We were given permission to build a 14,940 head beef cattle feedlot in this location.
After we’d been on hold over a year getting approvals to begin with, we were finally given that permission. We then found out that we were going to have to be periodically licenced.
We said, “We’d have to be crazy to invest in capital works without an assurance of operating.”
They said, “WA would not be the thriving place it is if we did business that way. We would never give someone permission to build something and not let them operate it.”
We never had permission for 1,000 head before we constructed. We had to construct first, then apply for a licence to operate. We never had permission for 4,500 head before we constructed to that level. We had to construct first, then apply for a licence to operate. We never had permission for 6,000 head before we constructed to that level. We had to construct first, then apply for a licence to operate.
At every level of operation, DEC approved our operations. That gave us assurance that we could contiue to invest…continue to build. The only Environmental Field Notice we were ever given was for lack of bunding around our diesel tank. We remedied that, even though DEC officials would have driven past hundreds of un-bunded tanks on their way to our property.
We were quite happy to be licenced, because we were were honest and had nothing to hide. We were also naive. We thought that if we were ever accused of doing environmental harm, DEC would have to file charges against us, and we would have the right to defend ourselves.
But we were never accused of anything. They caused us to die slowly by imposing a licence condition that they knew would send us broke. This was done with no basis in science or fact.
Joanne Nova has another update on her site, in which she addresses this licence thing:
http://joannenova.com.au/2010/09/minister-of-the-environment-and-queen-of-wa/comment-page-1/#comment-92094
Virveli, something tells me that it won’t matter how rational and calm I am in explaining things to you, you are going to disagree. You state:
Sorry, didn’t know how to use the block quotes. (But I figured it out after I posted!)That should read:
Virveli states:
And then I respond with the Hmmmm two paragraphs.
Virveli says:
September 23, 2010 at 3:02 am
you’re now surrounded by enemies at your present location
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Virveli,
Matt Thompson responded to my prior post related to the Town’s comments in the DEC waste management and landfills report on JoNova’s blog:
John,
The local government authority which is the Shire (like a county) has supported us and appealed our license on our behalf on numerous occassions. Individuals have appealed on our behalf and signed petetions in large numbers. DEC does not consider positive comments or submissions. People in town have offered us their homes, their cars, and brought us food. Walking through the streets of town people have handed me fifty dollar notes and told me to keep fighting.
We do have our opponents locally but they are a very small group, and we have many many friends who have bent over backwards to help us in our time of distress.
[Matt Thompson]
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Please don’t spin the facts Virveli, the situation is heart breaking!
I wouldn’t be at all surprised when all of this is over and if no miracles happen to keep Matt & Janet in place….we find their lenders have given the feedlot new owners and they get to operate to full capacity at 15,000 head without question or conditions on their licence….I cannot begin to even put down on paper what will happen then but you can be sure it will be recorded by the MSM….Until then I am working on a miracle….with you all the way Matt & Janet!!