The force of growing popularity of the Aegis’ “Our Climate” iPhone app has caused some climate alarmists to circle the wagons and regroup. For example, Joe Romm at Climate Progress is calling for
“… suggestions for improving the one liners.”
…related to John Cook’s alarmist iPhone app.
I think it is telling that they are reacting so visibly and so quickly. They probably were not prepared for such popularity (of the Our Climate App) after the staged smackdown in the Guardian backfired.
See: Climate change denial? There’s an app for that.
Meanwhile the “Our Climate” app continues its surge of downloads and is featured in the Top 40 “New and Notable” Apps on the iTunes frontpage, plus the top 5 category position in many countries:
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There are more than 230,000 Apps in the App store – Only 40 Apps are featured in this front page category at any time, so this is a singular achievement and opportunity for the truly skeptical side of the story to be heard.
“Our Climate” is now the Number 1 Weather App in Five iTunes App Stores:
1. Malaysia
1. Uruguay
1. India
1. Hong Kong
1. Brazil
Also number 2 in:
2. Canada
2. Turkey
2. Singapore
Number 3 in:
3. UK
3. Panama
3. Pakistan
And fourth in:
4. USA
Get the app for yourself: http://itunes.apple.com/app/our-climate/id371849150?mt=8
BTW Yes, it DOES work on the iPad !
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And, if your are in an NGO or work the IPCC, be sure to get this version (thanks to reader “boudu”):
you should be sure Rush Limbaugh gets one for his IPad (which he raves about)
Today… Apple. Tomorrow… the world!
Heh.
Taunt them a second time!
But pity the hamsters…
I better brush up on my bon mots in advance of Romm’s verbal barbs LOL! Trading quips with humourless warmists is like kicking puppies—so easy to do that it’s immoral.
I wonder how long it will be before RC have a App out. Go on Gavin. You know you want to.
One slight word of caution. I do wonder if a portion of the downloads are by people who don’t read the app description and think it is going to cater to their need for doom and gloom prognostications? I know in that brief period of my life, when I had an iPhone, I downloaded a few apps that were not what I thought they would be. Carelessness on my part, but still….
And as if by magic . . .
http://www.kane-tv.com/clients/iphib/iPhib.jpg
REPLY: Thanks, added. – Anthony
Today… Apple. Tomorrow… Android!
As you’ve been spamming about your app every other day now for quite some time, I thought I’d buy a copy :p.
It’s actually rather good!
In Star Trek, the Borg were defeated by introducing disruptive thoughts into the collective.
It made them panic and argue among themselves.
Android waits with envy.
I love how Joe Romm has promoted John Cook from a former physics student to “physicist.”
Can’t these guys ever tell the truth? I guess that lying comes so natural to them that they don’t even notice when they’re doing it.
Any chance this will app will be made available on Android phones?
According to the poll results in the app, Asia is very concerned about the climate. 84% says it’s a big problem. 85% says it’s urgent to remedy…
Just became the proud owner of the “Our Climate” app.
“”” Robinson says:
August 9, 2010 at 1:34 pm
As you’ve been spamming about your app every other day now for quite some time, I thought I’d buy a copy :p.
It’s actually rather good! “””
Well actually it ain’t spam if it is on your own Blog. There’s a cure for that; up above is an address line; and if you type ” http://www.almost any letters.com ” and hit return it will probably take you almost anywhere, but this spam overloaded page. I’m sure if you replace “almost any letters” with “Google” or “wikipedia” you’ll get somewhere else but here. Good luck !
They probably were not prepared for such popularity
That’s because they haven’t been paying attention to the poll numbers, and the cold weather, and the big one…CLIMATEGATE…Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!! 😉
But seriously, I think people don’t trust what they’ve been hearing about global warming and they’re hungry for a different angle.
This is the right way to go. It makes me want to get an I-phone.
Sadly for me I am NOT an early adopter. I do have a telephone without a magneto crank on it though; but it is stuck to the wall someplace else; where I ain’t; and it rings like a Telephone Company Telephone; instead of playing a lousy version of “Der Ring des Nibelungen.”
But good luck on your app; if it creates chaos in “Green” land or any repository of “climate experts” it must be good; we need all the chaos we can muster.
Great add for the IPCC app! LOL
I just remembered the sex poodle is on the Apple board. Will he want a copy?
Went to the climate progress link, an exercise in pig dressing?
Even a pig in a silk dress with lace and pearls, is still just a pig.
The problem with an app like this is that it needs such frequent updating.
For instance, on Aug. 9 it was revealed that a joint NOAA/MSU climate project recorded temperatures for parts of Lake Michigan (US) at 430 F and higher.
Average that into the database and you get a warming signal for sure.
http://www.climatechangefraud.com/climate-reports/7479-us-government-in-massive-new-global-warming-scandal-noaa-disgraced
I’d like to see someone create an evil twin for “Our Climate”. It could be called “Climate Science”. And it would consist of all the known untruths and already falsified predictions that Al Gore, the IPCC, ‘climate scientists’, official climate bodies, governments, NGOs, their PR flacks, and the MSM have provided us with over the last 35 years, along with links to the sources. It wouldn’t contain any of the true stuff (always assuming there is some), nor any not-yet-falsified material. There would be no commentary and no indication as to the current status of the material. Just a menu of topics and a search box. The app would need to be free (otherwise the creator might face fraud charges). The app could be jazzed up with the inclusion of the various corpora of emails that have become available in the last year or two — to give the user the flavour of what it is like to do ‘climate science’ and to provide extra insight into concepts like academic ethics, peer review and the scientific method.
How would ‘responsible climate scientists’, RealClimate, Guardian journalists et al. react to such an app? They could hardly say that it was full of [snip] since they themselves would have created 100% of the content.
In regards to “suggestion for improving the one liners” , I haven’t laughed that hard in awhile. Most of the responses boiled down to the very childish type of “no its not” “yes its is”.
What they really need is an app that plays a rimshot after they give their so called one liners.
LOL. Romm’s “one-liners” are great humor for anyone who understands logic!
Schiller Thurkettle says:
August 9, 2010 at 2:09 pm
“For instance, on Aug. 9 it was revealed that a joint NOAA/MSU climate project recorded temperatures for parts of Lake Michigan (US) at 430 F and higher. ”
That must have been a thermometer inside a pressure cooker.
Is anyone going to be watching the weather channel’s propaganda on global warming tonight? Idon’t see much hope for them, they’ve also reported that heat is the fuel for the Moscow forest fires.
Would love a Windows Mobile version.
typo . . .
should be ” . . . disturbance in the farce”
I thought it was a pretty good app… the ‘key climate theories’ section gave me a quick head’s up on papers that had passed me by… like Rachel Pinker et al. 2005 – “Do satellites detect trends in surface solar radiation”.
I think it’s time to hit the tip jar again. 😉
stevengoddard says:
August 9, 2010 at 1:35 pm
In Star Trek, the Borg were defeated by introducing disruptive thoughts into the collective.
It made them panic and argue among themselves.
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stevengoddard,
In Star Trek they had Data to save them from the Borg. We’ve got our own guys . . . . M & M and Anthony with his team . . . . and you . . . . and a bunch of others . . . I won’t name them . . . they know who they are : )
John
Congratulations to all who have a stake in this – basically all free thinking, freedom loving people everywhere.
Sure, as someone said earlier, a few of the downloads will be from people not realising what they’re downloading – but that applies to just about ALL downloads, so not really a factor. It’s up there with the most popular apps, and deservedly so. ALMOST makes me want to buy an iPhone! But for now I’ll struggle on with my Tesco mobile.
I wonder how long before they go thru Apple’s management to try to kill it, and substitute their own?
With Gore on the board, I should think right away…
Yeah,
My daughter wants me to go with the second decade of the 21st century and switch from Blackberry to the modern world . . . . . this App is the straw on that proverbial camel which makes me concede to her arguments. : ) [I think she is buying]
John
@ T2000 says:
August 9, 2010 at 1:39 pm
I lived in the Far East for nigh-on thirty years. Believe you me, when you live there you want every little bit of weather info possible at certain times. I understand completely why residents in Asia want as much meteorological information as they can get which is why this App is so popular there.
The US Military weather reports from Guam are very,very popular in Hong Kong when there’s typhoon in the area; their tracking record for the South China Sea typhoons is excellent. A link to this site (which I can’t find right now) in the App would make it so much more popular in one of the most densely populated areas on the Planet.
Be sure to write a review in the iTunes store because the lemmings are already trying to discredit it.
[A link would be helpful. ~dbs, mod.]
That disingenuous list of one-liners almost made my head explode.
I am still seeing images of “WHERE TO BEGIN?” flashing before my eyes . . .
The lead off ASMRE graph from JAXA should have the numeric surface area as well as the graphical trend update.
NoMoreGore says on August 9, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Bit transparent, eh. Also, that’s why an Android version is needed.
Wonderful development. Thanks for the coverage. Mind if I point out a typo in your final sentence?
“And, if your are in an NGO or work the IPCC, be sure to get this version (thanks to reader “boudu”):”
“And, if you are…” or “And, if you’re…”
Anthony,
When will there be a version of this for my IMac desktop at home? (Not a cell phone user.)
“Our Climate” is so them, that alone must have them steamed.
“How dare you deniers call it your climate”.
stevengoddard says:
August 9, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Good point about the Borg collective. Janeway wrecked thier plans by letting them assimilate her while she carried a virus.
In this case, the app has real data links. Scary stuff.
NoMoreGore says:
August 9, 2010 at 3:13 pm
I wonder how long before they go thru Apple’s management to try to kill it, and substitute their own?
That would be a ginormous blunder, but I’m not going to say why. Let ’em try it.
Anthony Watts says:
Joe Romm at Climate Progress is calling for “… suggestions for improving the one liners.”
Those one liners on their site are horrible, and the comments and suggestions make me feel sick…
Slight O/T Anthony, but for users like myself who visit WUWT using an iPad, could you put a nav link at the top of each comments section that allows us to go to the last one? Sometimes there are so many comments that it takes a long time to get to the most recent. Oh, and the iPad is the coolest thing Evah for the Net.
Johnny Carson would have been proud.
Where is the science?
Everybody who tries to reach an educated opinion on this issue (without having enough expertise, time and literature knowledge to directly judge the data) is left with a strange bitter feeling. Very often this resembles more crusade fought with slogans than a open discussion on issues that are far for being settled. It is like if we were trying to discuss if a mutation is dangerous before discovering what DNA is; now we are also provided with a detailed list of replies helpful to convince our neighborhoods. I am a scientist working in other fields since more than 20 years now but believe me this global warming comedy is really unique in “science”. God does not play dice with the universe but these characters do play dice with the hearth.
In the interest of humanity everybody should step back from the prime time and the star system and humbly return to work to improve the evidence.
Heh, JoRo hasn’t let my post through yet:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
August 9, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Tom Staley says:
August 9, 2010 at 11:44 am
“Yes, water vapor is the most powerful greenhouse gas. The amount of water vapor in the atmosphere depends only on the temperature of the atmosphere”
The problem with this one is that it isn’t true.
Specific humidity follows the solar cycles closely:
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/interesting-correlation-sunspots-vs-specific-humidity/
Romm has to train the troops? No free thinkers there I guess, or maybe not well educated in their own cause. It’s pretty sick actually. Typical actions of a propagandist movement.
And I noticed the introduction started with “Progressives should…..”. Do they even know what Progressive means? If I were them, I would not associate to that word in front of even mildly educated people….. Guess he’s “out of the closet”.
Wonder if Jobs reads WUWT?
It doesn’t seem to be in the top 40 list anymore. Maybe Big AL instructed them to get rid of it. Mind you, its possible that it just got knocked off by another app.
I’d be careful, your app may be deemed by Apple to be a moral threat to children and the easily lead. They don’t give too many reasons when they ban an app.
What is this ‘iphone’ of which you write? All my ips are quite sharp enough thankyou, they don’t need honing.
Congrats!
Can this be ported to Windows Mobile (version 6.5) please ?
I love the add for the Ipad App, It’s a shame that that is how the world is today, exaggerating data and misrepresenting trends
Welcome to the subject of Climate Science.
Anthony, with all due respect, not everything revolves around the ‘Our Climate’ app. The reason for the Climate Progress post was because Joe is going on vacation so he asked me for a bunch of my recent blog posts that he could post. That was one of the posts I suggested.
That said, I’ve been meaning to thank you for defending me when one of your commenters posted an insulting comment about me. I thought that was decent of you so many thanks!
REPLY: Hi John, Thanks for that info. I note that you make a strong effort to run a clean forum, and I try to return the favor of decency in discussion when I can. Insults help nobody, though a healthy rivalry is always good.
The “Our Climate” app is new, so please don’t begrudge our moment in the sun. We don’t have opportunities like publishing in the Guardian you know. 🙂
While we are sharing info I should mention that this isn’t my app, nor do I earn anything for it in sales or for promoting it. It was developed much like your app with a specialist company.
– Anthony
NoMoreGore says:
August 9, 2010 at 3:13 pm
I wonder how long before they go thru Apple’s management to try to kill it, and substitute their own?
With Gore on the board, I should think right away…
Even ‘the force’ has a way of revealing to ‘the lost’ what may once again be found.
Do not give up so easily as to think those lost souls can’t be shown the real truth of matters.
Faith, have faith: Keep the door open …
While we are sharing info I should mention that this isn’t my app
I know, it was developed by an Australian company (note a typo in your opening sentence, it’s Aeris). Note that it takes Aussies to put these climate apps together 🙂
John Cook,
While you are being decent, please retract your straw man “rebuttal” to my GRACE article.
I wrote an article questioning GRACE claimed ice loss 700km in the interior of Antarctica, and you devoted a three part “rebuttal” to discussing ice losses on the coast.
I just rated the app full stars and made a comment—I encourage all those who own it and use it to post comments too, ‘cuz the comments section will get flamed by the RC crowd (I can’t wait to see their one liners, assuming, of course, they can limit their vitriol to just one sentence.)
John Cook
Bravo John, you should stop by more often, and I’m not being saecastic.
We need to start opening up the dialogue between the two camps. The sound-bites, name calling, and such needs to stop.
As at all blogs you encounter the occasional troll or extremist but the moderation has been great, IMHO. My experience here has been most rewarding. Many contributors are knowledgable, amicable, and are ready and able to seperate/discuss legitimate issues of science and climate from strawmen and/or ad hom comments of which I’m sure you’re familiar.
Anyway…was impressed with your post thanking AW and thought I’d offer an invite. Take care.
Should read: ‘sarcastic’, sorry for the typo.
“Meanwhile the “Our Climate” app continues it’s surge of downloads and is featured in the Top 40…”
Should read “its”, not “it’s”. Sorry for picking nits … it’s a personal grammatical pet peeve of mine.
On topic, I would love to see this app ported to the Blackberry.
But does it cover the ozone hole which is taking its sweet time to kill us all? 🙂
Congratulations on the #5 position, though I am still waiting for my WUWT book generating option.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Book&bookcmd=book_creator&referer=Anthony+Watts+%28blogger%29
While you are all madly trying to power up your electronic gadgets on the new wind powered smart grid,
Iiii will be laying on my polar bear rug by the fire reading WUWT in book form. Oh wait, fires emit CO2 and my incandescent lights will be illegal. So maybe I will be wearing the bearskin, reading my WUWT book, by candlelight.
Gaylon
you should stop by more often, and I’m not being saecastic
I do stop by fairly regularly but usually by the time I get here the discussion is already 100’s of comments in. Even this thread was only a few hours old when I got here and there were over 50 comments. You guys are a prolific lot. But I will try to comment more often.
After reading the article and one liners i had a thought, why not have Anthony and John Cook have a debate on the one liners say 1 a week or 2 weeks. What say you Anthony and John?
Read a slew of Romm’s one liners to neutralize critics of cagw. It is the most juvenile stuff I’ve seen anywhere, let alone in a place purporting to be a scientic blog. I fear their power to have a damaging affect greatly diminished if this is the level of discourse we’re dealing with. The shallowness is compounded by the arrogant talking down tone – is it any wonder that ordinary working folks have turned away in droves from this undisguised anti-science anti-human claptrap. It’s worse than we thought!
Should make one for android phones.
Are Americans getting poor? 😉 The Czech Republic is at the top of the highest-ranks table of Our Climate
http://www.appannie.com/our-climate/ranking/#view=best-ranks
because its rank is 83 over here, among all apps. It’s 383 in the U.S. Come on, people, including iPhone non-owners. Create your iTunes account and buy it. 😉
Hi John,
It was me who insulted you. Please accept my humble apologies. As you know in this heated debate [pun intended] outrageous claims are made [no you personally] and we sceptics don’t have the MSM on our side or give us a fair hearing. This led to my uncalled for outburst. Sorry again. :o(
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/09/the-our-climate-iphone-app-causing-a-disturbance-in-the-force/#comment-452742
Lubos,
The Czech Republic result must be due to your excellent promotional skills. 🙂
Much appreciated…
PS: Based on a bit feedback I am receiving from some of you, if any of you have reviewed V1.0.0 of the App, and haven’t upgraded yet, you won’t be able to add a review for V1.0.1. You need to update first to V1.0.1 and update your review.
I think these reviews do matter when customers are right at the point of deciding whether to try the App or not. So the more positive reviews we can muster on Page 1 of the App’s iTunes page, the better.
119 refutations? 119!
This seems to inadvertantly capture the inherent bias and blinkered thinking of those moving in AGW circles, as there’s no way that of 119 ‘denialist’ debating points, every single one can be dismissed with a pithy one-liner.
Pretty much every debating subject has strong and weak points to it, that’s normal.
(We could all make strong arguments both for and against invading Iraq and Afghanistan for example)
Yet these guys pretend they – and only they – have the correct answer to every single point made, every objection raised, every tricky question asked or every challenging scientific paper, about AGW.
Plainly, that’s quite daft.
My favorite comment under the climate catechism climate progress provided was “so and so needs a rebuttal, I wish I were qualified to provide it.” Of course, the “denier” comment in question had been deleted.
Sean Peake says:
August 9, 2010 at 1:27 pm
…
Trading quips with humourless warmists is like kicking puppies—so easy to do that it’s immoral.
Shame on you, Sean. Kicking puppies is wrong. Warmists, on the other hand, …
8^)
Just bought the app, and gave it 5 stars.
That Guardian article is especially bad. Harping on about cherry-picking and arguments that contradict each other. But they also say:
” … a reduction in sea ice leading to increased heating because the darker sea absorbs more heat than lighter ice …”
A darker surface would also be a more effective radiator. At high latitude where solar input is at shallow angle, doesn’t reduced sea ice also mean amplified cooling?
Why can the Guardian can cite this contradiction “as if it’s never occurred to climate scientists”?
Not sure what app my Samsung Starburst runs, but I would love to have this app for it.
The Guardian article was spiteful and inept propaganda, which came very close in style and content to being religious dogma – references to ‘deniers’ was particularly nasty. Anyone who knows anything about the methods of swaying public opinion knows that damning the opposition brand almost always backfires, so the article was a really silly tactic in itself.
And what happened to the Guardian’s pledge to play nice?
After reading the comments on this thread by Anthony, John Cook and others, John seems like a reasonable and likeable bloke but his good qualities got lost completely by the Guardian.
When I was learning to read and write, my dad warned me from time to time that reading and writing are not a product of advanced intelligence but fairly normal human activities for our current stage in the evolution of Man, and that because something was printed in a newspaper or on a page in a book did not make it true, but that someone had invested much of themsleves and their personal treasure in the ideas that they had carefully set out on those pages and had a strong vested interest in others becoming followers and believers. I was trained at an early age to question everything I read and with a dictionary at hand.
As to IPhones, etc, the boy in me wants toys, including an IPhone and an IPad, many of the apps that I have read about and all sorts of other stuff, but the rational part of me says that my PC is more than adequate, as is my cellular phone, unless I win the lottery and can indulge myself.
The more shrill and intolerant the warmists become, the less credible their position appears to anyone looking for some truth in Climate Science.
I did try to gently point this out to them – but of course I was censored.
Here at WUWT Science is discussed, debate is encouraged, mistakes owned up to, and the “other side” are allowed to participate – so well done WUWT, and thanks for all the hard work.
French sceptic site has a write up on it:
http://www.rechauffementmediatique.org/wordpress/
Calling it:
A GOLDMINE OF INFORMATION,
Okay, Anthony, you sucked me in with this post. (I figured I could spare the price of the app.) Will browse through it later. Should be fun showing the kids more information about what we call around here “the great global warming hoax.”