Mann's Grinning Cheshire Cat Commentary

Gosh, what does one do to become a “professional climate change denier”? Does Penn State offer that course? Heh.

He does look happy though. Plus, he has an interesting choice of wall art, I thought sure he’d frame his famous graph. Maybe he has a special room for that. Despite this “exoneration” that according to Sir Muir, didn’t examine the science, his hockey stick still doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

It’s dead. Jeff Id does a great review of what Muir missed, simple, basic, things that anyone who can read can see for themselves.

McCoy_hockey_stick_Its_dead_Jim

Here’s the link to the video interview, about 10 minutes long, if you can stand to watch that long.

About 6:45 into the interview Mann blames the current (east coast) heat wave on manmade warming. Of course we all know (because we are repeatedly beaten over the head with the phrase like we’re stupid or something) that “weather is not climate”.  Me thinks it’s more about asphalt.

‘Scuse me while I go look for an antiemetic. (mmpf!)

h/t to WUWT reader Loodt Pretorius

Update: From WUWT comments (Philip Foster) we have this.

If anyone is moved to write to Sir Muir Russell, here is his office address:

Sir Muir Russell

Judicial Appointments Board for Scotland

38-39 Drumsheugh Gardens

Edinburgh

EH3 7SW

Scotland

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Eric
July 8, 2010 7:32 pm

James Inhofe is a cretin. Every time he opens his mouth he does more to advance support for climate change than any true believer could do. I have been skeptical of many apocalyptic pronouncements for many years, but the alignment of those theories with a political spectrum holds far less water than the theories themselves. If you want to cheapen the debate about junk science by showing how it sometimes somehow confirms your world view, then by all means go ahead. But don’t be surprised when all it takes to marginalize you is a raised eyebrow and a smirk. Poor science and worse science reporting have been endemic in the United States for decades, regardless of the prevailing political moods. The way to rectify the situation is with facts, not emotion.

D. Patterson
July 8, 2010 7:51 pm

What do you suppose will happen to the employment market value of Penn State academic degrees in the wake of the sham Mann investigations?

Jay
July 8, 2010 8:16 pm

““Gosh, what does one do to become a “professional climate change denier”?””
Professional means you do it for money. Some may claim I am a denier, but I make no money from it.
Unlike the climate change industry, where Mann and Jones get millions of dollars of grants, and CRU got money from BP and Exxon. This is the warmist hypocrisy.

July 8, 2010 8:50 pm

Eric says:
July 8, 2010 at 7:32 pm
James Inhofe is a cretin. Every time he opens his mouth he does more to advance support for climate change than any true believer could do. I have been skeptical of many apocalyptic pronouncements for many years, but the alignment of those theories with a political spectrum holds far less water than the theories themselves. If you want to cheapen the debate about junk science by showing how it sometimes somehow confirms your world view, then by all means go ahead. But don’t be surprised when all it takes to marginalize you is a raised eyebrow and a smirk. Poor science and worse science reporting have been endemic in the United States for decades, regardless of the prevailing political moods. The way to rectify the situation is with facts, not emotion.
—…—…—…
And you are directing your criticism towards Inhofe – one of the few politicians who’s staff actually discusses the real (lack of) science of CAGW and the billions who will suffer needlessly under Obama’s 1.3 trillion dollar cap and tax bill?
Why?
Give me five specific examples of where Inhofe is wrong.
Give me any example – even one – where Mann-made global warming is correct.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
July 8, 2010 9:07 pm

Mom2girls says:
July 8, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Wait till the Virginia AG gets done with him…
We can only hope, can’t we. 🙂

Amino Acids in Meteorites
July 8, 2010 9:10 pm

Jules says:
July 8, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Many of us would take you more seriously, Mr. Watts et al., if you were not so obviously biased and antagonistic.
Meaning you and the others under the bridge with you?

Amino Acids in Meteorites
July 8, 2010 9:15 pm

Follow the money, if you will please, sir, down the rabbit hole where money is god.

savethesharks
July 8, 2010 9:55 pm

What a disturbing, hard to watch video. I almost ralphed a couple of times.
Was it just me….or did anyone else note the occasional sneers and weird half-smiles…like little jabs in the stomach?
I realize that pretty much no one skypes well but skype or not….this individual is not to be trusted.
Shifty-eyed, sneering, and biased….it is almost pathetic to watch him in in constant “defense mode”…while even the babe reporter (who herself has a restrictive line of questioning) struggle to get a good answer out of him.
Its in his eyes and his energy.
He is not to be trusted.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

April E. Coggins
July 8, 2010 9:57 pm

White washes are normal for academia. Heck, I can link to a story where a college professor calls white Republican students “white shit bags” on video tape and the inquiry panel finds no problem because the professor was generalizing against all white people, not the particular student to which he was getting in the face of.
It must take an amazing amount of self dishonesty to be a lefty.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
July 8, 2010 9:58 pm

“It’s dead Jim”
Apparently ‘dead’ is a relative term.

Northern Exposure
July 8, 2010 10:08 pm

Hey, did you guys get your big oil cheque in the mail this month ?
I still haven’t received mine yet…

April E. Coggins
July 8, 2010 10:16 pm

I haven’t recieved my check either, but I keep hearing that their money is good. I wonder if I can take out a loan on the promises of the lefties. Really Mr. Banker, the Commies say the pay off is coming. They swear they aren’t lying this time!

Simple seeker after truth
July 8, 2010 11:41 pm

I did watch the whole thing and noted only two comments he made on climate;
1. The current US heatwave is an indicator of climate change.
2. The cold last US winter was unusual.
How does he justify this? Could it not be equally possible to consider these events the other way round? Heatwave as ‘unusual’ and cold as ‘climate change’
Or possibly, as an observer without an agenda might call them – weather extremes.

July 9, 2010 12:01 am

Jules,
You’re right… We are bigoted…
We are bigoted against ignorance, malfeasance, incompetence, intentional stupidity, violation of the scientific method, and fixing evidence to make ones hypotheses to fit the data, rather than making sure the data fits the hypothesis, to those who think their place in education or politics allows them to circumvent the law of education and the laws of the land, then pat us on the head like morons when ones politico buddies white wash the information and totally overlook the obvious facts.
We are biggoted against unethical people like Al Gore et al. who want to destroy our economy to fill their lust for money through environmental taxes like CAP and TRADE for something that has been proven time and time again to not be true!
We are bigoted against blinded people who refuse to be reasonable and discuss science like men, but instead have to fling red herrings like the strange psychotic character on the Muppets or fling on obnoxious ad homonym insult after another when the same group of people who are supposed experts can’t answer a simple question.
We are prejudiced against people using the same argument over and over and over thinking in ignorance or arrogance that just because it is said a million times that we’ll start believing it.
History doesn’t tell us for sure whether it was Hitler, Goering, or Churchill, but the fact of the matter is, the comment stands the test of time and apparently is a favorite of the alarmist elite. “Say a big enough lie often enough, over and over and the masses will begin to believe in time.”
Only problem is we are not ignorant at WUWT.
We are like Roddy Piper in the movie, “They Live”. We have the special glasses and we can see past all the cra* that is passing for science from the side of the Alarmist Elite and we’re not falling for it and it makes us sick to our stomachs.

Bulldust
July 9, 2010 12:39 am

Where’s my stipend for coining ClimateGate darnit… It should have been a pension for life. It is a travesty that I can’t explain the lack of funding!

Shevva
July 9, 2010 12:58 am

Mr Watts, i’d ignore the trolls or you’ll end up having to apologies to someone for no reason.

C.W. Schoneveld
July 9, 2010 2:06 am

I have a suspicion that there might be more gaps in the education and the grasp of logic of a professor who speaks of “warmer temperatures”. I cannot wait to hear him talk of the dangers of a “higher climate”.

Roger Knights
July 9, 2010 3:10 am

Lucy Skywalker says:
July 8, 2010 at 2:04 pm
All this shows is that the rot in Science / Academia is worse than we thought.

Their “extend and pretend” policy is just digging establishment science / academia deeper into their hole. But they feel safer in their bunker. And they can’t imagine nature dramatically falsifying the warmist / alarmist consensus soon. Let’s hope they’ve “tempted fate” thereby.

Roger Knights
July 9, 2010 3:40 am

Peter S says:
July 8, 2010 at 6:15 pm
In that beautiful symmetry that we call life, the first spontaneous thought that springs to mind upon viewing this video is “puffed up”.
……..
Mike’s inflated obstacles are as necessary to Mike as his inflated ‘science’ is. One feeds off the other in the ever-expanding universe of Mikeness. And the result of all this inflation is there to witness in Mike’s video.

Narcissism.

stepanovich
July 9, 2010 4:27 am

Anthony Watts, you’re hilarious! Just two days ago we predicted that you’ll respond to the Muir Russell report by attacking Michael Mann. And — true to form — that’s exactly what you did!
Face it: you’re just obsessed with Michael Mann.

July 9, 2010 4:35 am

stepanovich,
It seems that the comments in this thread have gone right over your head. That’s what happens with true believers.
If you can not see that this internal ‘investigation’ was specifically designed to excuse scientific misconduct, then there is nothing the rest of us can do to help you.

inversesquare
July 9, 2010 4:44 am

Gee, Mann is really digging himself a rather large hole in that video.
It’s the longest interview I’ve seen from him and I have to say, he doesn’t seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed………. I’m not surprised, he’s built his career on a lie and that never ends well…..
There are people in every profession who get to where they are by spinning bullshit. I know quite a few in my line of business……
Luckily, it always ends the same way…… people that have to use spin rather than talent to get work eventually crash and burn by going one bullshit story to far.
That interview doesn’t make me angry, we all know and deal with people like Mann in every day life. He’s a bit stupid and I feel a little bit sorry for him. Not a very good strategist I have to say.

John McManus
July 9, 2010 4:46 am

What a great interview. Focussed and tight. My favorite part is the effect the opposition has had. None! Mann has published more, researched more, aquired better resources and become more influential in the face of attack. True science hasn’t stopped.
Well done.

dave ward
July 9, 2010 4:53 am

“I will be away from my email through July 24, 2010.
Any email sent before then may remain unread and be discarded.”
Deleting emails? I thought these guys were above reproach….

PJB
July 9, 2010 4:53 am

To Chris
Indeed, my brush was very broad and, of course, many within the business ranks are forthright and upstanding individuals. (The the Gulf of Mexico fiasco following on the heels of the financial crisis, well, you know…) My zeal to condemn Mann was more powerful than sensible.
His time will come.