ICCC Conference day 1 – Chicken of the Sea and BBC

Sunday was speaker orientation and the evening reception/dinner. I met up with Willis Eschencbach, watched and listened to him play the piano in the lobby. I took some photos with my cellphone camera, but they turned out badly. Willis and I had an interesting talk with Gary Sharp about Tuna acting as ARGO buoys.

Apparently the Tuna have a daily habit of feeding near the surface, then diving deep, repeating the process later in the day. Just like the ARGO buoys dive then float to the surface, so do the Tuna.

Somebody (and I don’t recall who) is fitting Tuna with temperature loggers that take a measurement every 20 seconds. Gary says that prelim tunatemp data isn’t showing different than ARGO.

That prompted me to recall a old TV jingle (being in TV for 25 years my head is full of them) that some readers may remember but I added a twist when I recited it at the table with a musical lilt.

Ask any Tuna you happen to see, where’s the global warming? It’s not in the sea!

I thought Willis might need resuscitation he was laughing so hard.

I had an afternoon meeting where I saw some extraordinary data cleaning and homogenization methods applied to surface temperature data to clean up the train wreck that it is now. It was quite impressive and far better than anything I’ve seen from NOAA or NASA. It makes their QC look like, well, Tuna salad. Or maybe a PBJ sandwich.

I met many people, including Donna Laframboise of Toronto who runs “no Frakking Consensus“who seems much younger in person than shown in her photo. I met with E.M. Smith (Chiefio) and Verity Jones (Digging in the Clay) also, and sat with them along with Joe D’aleo at the dinner reception.

Steve McIntyre gave his keynote presentation on the “trick” at dinner, along with Apollo 17 astronaut and Geologist Dr. Harrison Schmitt who talked about his views on current science. Both were well received. It was carried on live video streaming. PJTV is providing live video coverage (streaming and otherwise) at the PJTV CLIMATEGATE 2010 MICROSITE.

Bob Carter gave me his new book to read Climate: the Counter Consensus.

I gave a couple of interviews today. The interview I had in the evening after the keynote dinner with an independent crew working for BBC on some documentary on “The Skeptics” was unscheduled. They caught me in the grand hall asking if it could do an interview. It started out pleasant enough, but soon deteriorated. They had no organization at all and had no idea where to shoot it. They suggested we shoot the interview in my room, because they wanted to have me set in front of my computer. I thought that was more than a bit forward and suggested the foyer, we got there, setup and then after starting decided they didn’t like the setting. They they suggested that we go to the media room (which they apparently just discovered) so they tore down and went there.

After a couple of false starts the questions started coming. I started to wonder where they were going with this, and when they started asking about what I thought about Dr. Phil Jones “wanting to commit suicide” I realized that it wasn’t going to be factual, but more emotionally spun. I told them flat out that question and what went on in Dr. Jones mind/intent wasn’t something I could or would comment on since I have no information beyond the press report.

These two independent filmakers were just kids, early 20’s and were struggling to come up with questions. They kept trying to get me to use the word “fraud” as applied to Dr. Jones. There were about five attempts to do so in questions, asking essentially the same question over and over again in different ways.

They also asked why climate skeptics are so “angry” and why there are so many nasty comments on forums. I pointed out that they should visit some of the entertainment forums where people talk about celebrities like Britney Spears etc if they wanted to see some real vitriols, and that nasty comments are a part of the blogosphere, particularly when anonymous commenting is involved. Alarmists make a lot of nasty comments. Look up dhoghaza and Joe Romm.

The capper came at the end when they asked me to sign a release form. I was shocked, because standard procedure is to have the interviewee look over and sign the release form before the interview.

Reading it was like reading no other release form I’ve ever seen. It had a clause that said “gives us the right to use your content however we see fit” which concerned me because usually an interview for a documentary is limited to that venue. For all I know they may put me on a political comedy show.

Then there was something I’ve never encountered in all my years of television. An oath of “honesty and factual accuracy” was in the release. While I certainly thought I answered honestly and factually, this clause concerned me. When somebody interviews me on a contentious subject like climate, I’m giving my opinion. Opinions are almost always disputed. I was sure mine would be. To have such a clause connected to one’s opinion is just insane because then someone can hold up anything and say “but scientific consensus says..etc…etc…so Mr. Watts lied and violated his contractual oath in the release form”. It’s not a court of law, it’s an interview. Jeez Louise!

The release was obviously written by amateurs, and I refused to sign it. They then admitted that “it’s being revised to ‘simplify it’ and ‘could we send you a revision?’. I said I’d look at it, gave them my card with email address, told them that I thought they had the process backwards and that I was unhappy with being confronted with flawed legal language after giving a good faith interview, and left.

My impression is that whoever hired these two kids for the BBC is in for a peck of trouble down the road. I doubt the documentary on skeptics will be little more than a slam job. We’ll see if they try to use me even though I have NOT signed the release.

That’s an hour of my life I’ll never get back.

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May 17, 2010 6:49 pm

Willis Eschenbach says:
May 17, 2010 at 5:52 pm
old construction worker says:
May 17, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Somebody (and I don’t recall who) is fitting Tuna with temperature loggers that take a measurement every 20 seconds. Gary says that prelim tunatemp data isn’t showing different than ARGO.
QUESTION: Do they have to account for the tuna’s “body heat bias” and does that “body heat bias” fluxuate with the depth of the dive (think wind chill or in this case, “water chill factor”)?
Gary said they had two temperature sensors, one inside and one outside of the fish. The heat of the tuna (as I understand it) comes from the action of the muscles, so if it is exerting it warms up. But what do I know? …

Tuna possess a rete mirabili which is a counter current heat exchanger which keeps the inner temperature warmer than the skin temperature so that they can operate in lower water temperatures.

May 17, 2010 7:18 pm

rbateman, re “. . . NOAA’s forecast of above normal Western US.”
We are having temperatures that are below “normal” in California this Spring. It’s snowing again today in the Sierras near Yosemite, and a cold rain is falling in Los Angeles. ‘
The Sierra snowpack is at almost 150 percent of “normal” for this time of year. One has to wonder how all that snow got there, when CO2 is warming the planet so very, very much.
I suspect that the cause is the particular strain of CO2 in California: undisciplined, anti-authoritarian, and not about to take orders on how it is to behave, from IPCC or anybody else.

John Galt II
May 17, 2010 7:40 pm

Anthony,
The New BBC = The Old Monty Python
Great Story,
JG2

Al Gored
May 17, 2010 10:20 pm

John Galt II says:
“The New BBC = The Old Monty Python”
I see the new BBC as Monty Python’s Ministry of Truth, without the humor.

sandyinderby
May 18, 2010 12:51 am

oldseadog says:
May 17, 2010 at 1:11 pm
I have just watched the BBC Springwatch programme. Look at http://www.bbc.co.uk/springwatch .
How on earth do you counter this?
Join me and complain to the BBC about the content.

DaveF
May 18, 2010 2:29 am

Tuna are being fitted with temperatue sensors? So that’s what I broke my tooth on in my tuna sandwich yesterday!

Editor
May 18, 2010 2:59 am

DaveF says:
May 18, 2010 at 2:29 am
“Tuna are being fitted with temperatue sensors? So that’s what I broke my tooth on in my tuna sandwich yesterday!”
Where do you think the Tuna get all the mercury we get warned about?

rms
May 18, 2010 4:44 am

BBC Radio 4 this morning apparently referred to the gathering in Chicago as “the convention for climate change deniers.” (or something like that).

May 18, 2010 5:41 am

R. Gates: May 17, 2010 at 10:59 am
Not really Tilo. The only thing “dramatic” is your characterization of a normal cooling phase after an El Nino.
All cooling is *normal*. Only *warming* can be dramatic, Tilo, even if it’s only +.0027C and the instrument has a +/-.2C calibration error and there’s a +2C uncorrected siting error in the station located 1,200 km from the “measured” location.
Yeesh. Read the memos, people!!!11!eleven!!!1!
*koff*

May 18, 2010 12:27 pm

Sandyinderby,
I’m fed up complaining to the BBC; they never answer the question asked and always slant the reply to a comment.

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