You just have to laugh when you see articles like this.
Excerpts from an article by Mike Sandler:
Humans have put too many heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, and now the Earth is running a fever. But there’s also an increasingly toxic atmosphere in the blogosphere, where climate deniers strategically confuse the issue, delay meaningful government action, and harass scientists and authors.
For decades, the media presented the climate “debate” as two sides that were evenly or closely matched. Then a few years ago, around the time Hurricane Katrina struck and Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth won an Oscar and he and the IPCC were awarded a Nobel Prize, the media began to realize that climate science is real and has consequences, and the “other side” is almost all empty rhetoric.
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More sophisticated denier methods often appeal to:
- Free speech (as if achieving consensus on climate science somehow takes away their Constitutional rights) or
- The nature of scientific inquiry means always questioning your assumptions (ironically, the people who question the science of climate change, are likely those who question all science).
Gosh, excercising free speech and questioning assumptions, why, why, they’re TERRIBLE!
You can read the whole thing here. but I wouldn’t count on being able to leave comments:
Climate Deniers are Polluting the Blogosphere
Of course the thought hasn’t occurred to Mr. Sandler that the bulk of opinion has shifted.
I must say, I’m disappointed with some of the comments here. I would suggest that calling AGW proponents “greentards”, “idiots”, etc. is neither productive nor informative. This vitriol, though perhaps a direct result of the methods used by some in the climate science community only reflects poorly on those of us who believe that there is room to question the science. As with Anthony’s practice of linking to realclimate while they refuse to match the courtesy, we are shown in a positive light when we stick to facts rather than vitriol. I too, often curse at the statements made against us. I try to keep it to myself though as it only serves to reinforce the stereotype that others are trying to imply exists. The next front in this battle looks to be civil courts. Our words will be used against us where possible. Consider whether you would like to explain your statement to a jury trying to decide if you are impartial or not before posting.
HuffPost and their readers = Kool Aid drinkers.
Ignore them!
Speaking of “Consensus” and “the science is settled” Popular Technology dot net now has 700 Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skepticism of “Man-Made” Global Warming listed.
http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html
“DirkH (21:49:22) :
Does that mean i can continue running my car if i pay the OPT to have somebody else sterilized?”
That is the gist of it. The ominously named ‘Optimum Population Trust’ have various other schemes up their sleeves to bring the population of the world down to their target levels. The UK for example is deemed suitable for 20 million green ubermensch.
When do we get to hear to about enviromental issues apart from GW.
GW has blatantly clogged the blogo` and more importantly, the mainstream media,
with a pack of scare mongering lies, hogging so much space, you barely get to hear a thing about any real enviromental issues. 1st class hypocrite.
More whining a ala Hufpo (also posted over at ICECAP):
http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-47990020100426?sp=true
The biggest source of “clogging” is the IPCC report. It takes 3 more flushes.
Brad (06:05:10) :
Is it time for a solar update? Sunspots have stopped appearing and none seem on the horizon,
Relax, plenty of solar wind on the way from coronal holes;
http://www.spaceweather.com/
Biggest news for some time… Australia’s dumped AGW as an issue to be dealt with
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/rudd-in-ets-backflip-20100427-tq37.html
By the time it comes round again (2013) temps will have been flat/cool and AGW will have long disappeared as an issue… LOL. This will have implications for nearly all developed countries which were going to get involved in the scam and follows the USA senate decision to basically dump it as well.
HUFPO is a joke. Ariana is a turncoat snob and her followers are all Euphorians.
Mr Sandler should remember the old adage. It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear a fool,rather than open it and remove all possible doubt!!
I think, they, the believers need a lot of CASTOR OIL to unclog their little brains which are uncapable of understanding:
CO2 it is not black, but trasparent and invisible
CO2 is the gas you exhale. You exhale about 900 grams a day of CO2
CO2 that you exhale is what plants breath to give you back O2 (oxygen) for you to breath. Then it is neither a pollutant nor a poison, it even rejuvenates!!!:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1485258/carbon_dioxide_therapy_carboxy_therapy_pg2_pg2.html?cat=69
CO2 is heavier than air, it doesn´t fly up, up and away CO2 is a trace gas in the atmosphere, it is the 0.038 per cent of it, or 3.8 parts per ten thousand.
The atmosphere, the air ya know, does not have the capacity to “hold” enough heat, it only “saves” 0.001297 joules per cubic centimeter, while water , the sea ya know, has 3227 times that capacity (4.186 joules).
Would you warm your feet with a bottle filled with air or filled with hot water?
The so called “Greenhouse effect” does not exist, see:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/28018819/Greenhouse-Niels-Bohr
But if you have been cheated to the core and still believe in it, think the following:
Svante Arrhenius, the guy of the greenhouse effect, said he thought CO2 acted as the “window panes” of a green-house, but as its concentration in atmosphere it is just 3.8 per ten thousand, you would have a greenhouse with 3.8 window panes and 9996.2 empty holes
Brad (06:05:10) :
Amazing biased article.
Is it time for a solar update? Sunspots have stopped appearing and none seem on the horizon, based on STEREO.
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I was just over at Layman’s Sunspot Count and saw something interesting. He thought he saw what might be reversed polarity but the update shows:
“…Day 18 once again looking strong. The rest of the world is 5 days behind the Layman’s Count clinging on to microspots in an attempt to persuade us all that the cycle is behaving as normal.
The high latitude plage area is now showing signs of being of normal polarity, with a hint of a dark region preceding. “
So the reversed polarity was just a false alarm. It is way too early for cycle 25.
A number of “science” writers who climbed on the AGW
bandwagon are very frustrated that anyone dared to rain on
their parade.
Now Australia, the nation third on the list of carbon emitters,
has just said “No.” to weird or questionable science until
after 2012:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8645767.stm
Here in the United States, coming up with a effort to rewrite
our immigration laws has suddenly been moved to the front
of the line and climate legislation demoted to “some day”
status.
Since a direct attack on politicians who don’t sing along with
the AGW band would be counterproductive to an aggressive
legislative agenda, it’s time to shout down the bad bloggers.
By far biggest news is complete drop of AGW by Australian Government today. Worlwide implications for the whole AGW movement LOL
> DCC (21:29:51) :
> Time and again I have asked Google to allow me to filter out “news” from the Huff and Puff Post. Even their asinine headlines give me a headache. So far, no action from Google.
Piece o’ cake.
1) Get Firefox, if you don’t use it already.
2) Get the Greasemonkey extension.
3) Go to http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/12643 and download & install the Google Results filter script.
4) No more Huffpo.
Did Sandler overlook nitpicking? I didn’t see any mention of making mountains out of mole hills.
REPLY: No, that’s your department -A
Gail,
that list is a treasure! I bookmarked it.
It is really a sad state of affairs that people buy this crap, and think they are engaged in a noble cause. Yet it is no more than selling out the prosperity of generations to come, based on an unsubstantiated theory. All the wasted resources directed toward this non-existent problem could be doing some real good in the world.
Bandwagon science should be viewed askance. The fact that there’s a bandwagon associated with it means it almost certainly holds no water on the merits alone and is being embraced in support of a political agenda.
All this crazy sub-culture began in the 1960′ s with the “Flowers’ revolution” in France, with the “sub-terraneans” and “beatnicks”, with Pot and LSD, and last but not least, Fidel Castro’s cuban revolution.
BTW, just now, in History Channel, in its spanish version, are exalting the goodness of all these ideas, presenting them along the last ones: Evironmental “responsibility” and all “save the planet” crap.
It is for us all to decide if all this “mango and rice” political porridge will finally replace society as we know it or if we’ll sustain traditional values.
Ulric Lyons (07:27:55) :
“When do we get to hear to about enviromental issues apart from GW.”
It has been noted here many times, “It’s the water, stupid!” among points other than GW. And AW does cover numerous other environmental and energy subjects….. And the “war” is far from over.
But still, you have a valid question. And, think of the billions that have been wasted that could have come close to solving so many other problems in the world and saving millions of lives.
I think, at some point, we do a disservice to ourselves by over focusing on “their” – issue (GW), articles, blogs, bogus data, personalities, Etc.
The solution to this is simple…. Everyone, follow my lead:
“Yes, there IS a climate”.
There. All those who joined me are no longer climate deniers, and are therefor no longer clogging the blogosphere.
BTW, Trudie Styler says we’re all DOOMED in 62ish years, and her husband Sting proclaims that climate skeptics are idiots.
Gail Combs (07:51:29) : What if uranus/jupiter conjunction and uranus/saturn opposition is braking NASA’s “timing belt” producing sunspots. If so, we’ll have to wait until november.