Guest post by Steven Goddard
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While volcanic ash falls on Britain, in yet another assault on reason, the Royal Society has warned :
In papers published by the Royal Society, researchers warned that melting ice, sea level rises and even increasingly heavy storms and rainfall – predicted consequences of rising temperatures – could affect the Earth’s crust.
I also watched the movies 2012 and The Day After Tomorrow, but apparently I didn’t take them as seriously as some – Zombieland was probably more realistic.
As the land ”rebounds” back up once the weight of the ice has been removed – which could be by as much as a kilometre in places such as Greenland and Antarctica – then if, in the worst case scenario, all the ice were to melt – it could trigger earthquakes. The increase in seismic activity could, in turn, cause underwater landslides that spark tsunamis. A potential additional risk is from ”ice-quakes” generated when the ice sheets break up, causing tsunamis which could threaten places such as New Zealand, Newfoundland in Canada and Chile.
Pleeezzz …. Even if these claims worth worth considering, it would take tens or hundreds of thousands of years for Greenland and Antarctica to melt.
Back in the real world we hear from the Icelandic Meteorological Service that the glacier is what is causing the ash :
Einar Kjartansson, a geophysicist at the Meteorological Office.believes the volcano has melted about 10 percent of the glacier
It still could take months for the volcano to burn through the rest of the glacier, to a point where the steam and ash would turn instead into lava, he said.
What he is saying is that the sooner the glacier melts, the sooner the volcanic hazards will subside. This must be tough to swallow for people who believe that world is better off when it is cold and icy.
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Chuck (20:33:35) :
could the ash fallout have an effect on the arctic ice?
No, not a chance………stop Chuck, you’re killing me!!!!……..sorry, wasn’t nice and I’m sarcastic by nature. Yep, it will have an effect. How and to what extent, no one knows. It may very well serve as a type of insulation and increase the ice. OTOH, because it’s darker than typical ice, it may absorb the heat and melt the ice, or it may absorb the heat and not transfer it. It would be a great study, sadly, I don’t believe one will come of it without being weighted by a bias or two.
Another great ‘Fantasy Movie’ moment – there was a solar eclipse (I forget how it figured into the movie now), and that very night the two main characters were smooching on a boat deck under a full moon. Loved that one.
Mack28 –
re Louise Gray’s UK Telegraph frog story – if u look at the Tele’s “Earth” page below, the story is linked no less than FIVE times! surrounded by warmist propaganda like the global warming triggering more volcanoes piece. the three main UK political parties are all in on the game, and having a delingpole blog and the odd booker piece is not the norm at the Tele:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/
an understated headline!!
19 April: BusinessWire: World-Renowned Experts and Heroes of the Environmental Movement Coming to Pittsburgh; Dr. Robert Bullard and Dr. Michael Mann Featured Speakers at PennFuture’s Global Warming Conference on May 2
Dr. Robert Bullard, often called the “Father of Environmental Justice,” Ware Distinguished Professor of Sociology and director of the Environmental Justice Resource Center at Clark Atlanta University; and Dr. Michael Mann, climate change expert and a lead author of the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Third Scientific Assessment Report, and Nobel Peace Prize recipient (along with former Vice President Al Gore and other IPCC scientists) are featured speakers at PennFuture’s upcoming conference on global warming set for Pittsburgh on May 2, 2010. The conference, “Creating a Climate for Justice” will be held at the August Wilson Center for African American Culture in Downtown Pittsburgh on Sunday, May 2, 2010 from 1:30 to 6:15 p.m…
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?
At 350 years of age in 2010 –founded by King Charles II in 1660 upon his Stuart Restoration– the Royal Society for the Improvement of Natural Knowledge has come full-circle to Carl Sagan’s “Demon-haunted World” (1995). No-one with the brains of a chicken any longer credits such manifestly stupid manifestos, disseminated as Climate Cultist propaganda in face of verifiable fact, in violation of basic mathematical and physical analytic principles.
The fact that a small coterie of corrupt officials and peculating academics continue to propagate this drivel speaks volumes about the state of objective, rational scientific inquiry in this delusional “post-normal” age. Reality bites… as our current Holocene Interglacial Epoch inexorably gives way to renewed Pleistocene Ice Time, what will poor Robin do then, poor thing? Hint: Request a Special Advisory from ye olde Royal Society, and do the opposite. Newton would retract his Principia in shame.
MattB (20:38:59) :
I thought it was well known, if you want cold you call Al Gore to make a speech, if you want sunspots you get Anthony Watts to make a post about them.
What if Anthony posts about a speech by Al Gore? Does the active sun negate the cold or is Al only speaking during the local winter?
ML (20:35:55) :
My BS Meter is out of range again. I have to get something more powerfull so
I can calculate BS^3
Any ideas what will work??????? LOL
Massive amounts of beer. Mind you, you have to work up to the proper level. Trying to get there from a tea toddler could be detrimental to your marriage and self-esteem, not to mention your bank account. Still, it works………..while you’re inebriated………, sadly, you still wake up to the realization that the whole damned world left it’s mind in the ‘lost and found’.
Does anyone remember this eruption? Where were all the scare stories surrounding this event? All the recent scare shit surrounding the Iceland eruption is for a reason. It’s to continue scaring the shit out of you and keep you living in fear.
Montserrat Volcano 1-7-07 2 Days Before Evacuation
Or something like that.
Richard Sharpe (20:06:48) :
Seems that there is more ash on the way:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267348/Iceland-volcano-eruption-New-ash-cloud-heading-UK-throws-plans-open-Britains-airports-chaos.html
I liked the last comment, to the effect that Iceland’s economy is dead and this eruption is the cremation ash.
“As the land ”rebounds” back up once the weight of the ice has been removed..”
Memo to Toronto Maple Leaf management- please have all personnel evacuate the arena prior to ice removal! Oh sorry…never mind, you’re all out golfing by now.
(Couldn’t resist, my team is still in the playoffs- Go Wings)
“pwl (19:17:40) : So what did you think of 2012? Fun eh?”
2012 was fun! You have to suspend any basic knowledge (of just about anything) for the duration of the film, but that is true of most disaster movies (and many of the adventure movies). There is lots of action, some clever plot twists (plot? why ruin it with a plot!?), some marginal character development, and great special effects. Some of it has the element of being tongue-in-cheek humor. Gives “made in China” a whole new meaning. Just because a movie is based on a ridiculous premise doesn’t mean it is a bad movie. After all, movies like Godzilla and King Kong are not believable in terms of science and fact, but are fun to watch and entertaining.
Another AGW prophet ranting about doomsday scenarios. Any day now I expect to see some of these wackos standing on the street corners wearing white robes and carrying signs predicting that the end is at hand.
Ok, ok, we’re now in a 1960’s Sci Fi, and I know which one!
It’s very intereting to read that the UK Met Office is using computer models to shut flights down. I hear on the news a second volcano has erupted.
OT, but in Western Astralia, we’ve had another quake, big-ish one too.
http://www.smh.com.au/wa-news/kalgoorlie-rocked-by-50-quake-20100420-sqay.html
[snip -no mind control rubbish]
I thought that Australia should be rebounding, not from melting glaciers but from massive exports of iron ore and coal, when I found this……
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/20/2877497.htm
This is just to fend off the fact the Met Office computer model botched the cloud dispersal analysis. Same crooks at work: can’t figure out a volcanic plume dispersion but can surely predict drought in 2050!
I live in Winnipeg. A mere 8,000 years ago the glaciers receded, and we are still undergoing isostatic rebound we are at the epicenter of this kind of activity. This is also possibly the most stable part of the planet with respect to volcanic activity. Not saying it can’t happen here but I don’t think there’s a fault line within 1000km in any direction, hardly a hint of earthquakes originating here, and zero in terms of active volcanos.
If isostatic rebound occurs at fault lines and tectonic plate junctures, I can see some plausibility to this tenuous hypothesis, but let’s keep in mind that isostatic rebound is a SLOW process (thousands of years), and as far as I understand it, the process RELIEVES underground pressure rather than exacerbating it.
Soufriere Hills Volcano Eruption – January 8, 2010
Regarding the wolverine as the largest terrestrial weasel, the largest member of the weasel family is either the Amazon river otter or the sea otter.
There are two general rules worth consideration when reading papers on the subject.
1. If there is a sudden change, such as the forecast frequency of drought, and the onset is coincident with the date of the publication, beware.
2. If disaster forecasts are made and if they are forecast only for the plausible remaining lifetime(s) of the author(s), beware.
Such people are concerned with themselves as opposed to (say) geologists, who are taught to think of the Earth over a very long term. They more resemble gamblers who sit up all night when they think they are on a roll that will pay them handsomely.
Bulletin: Clouds of ash, smoke, and steam are now billowing from a new source in the US. No, it’s not a volcano. It’s the remnants of my BS detector which has pegged out and started melting down upon receipt of the latest Twit-o-gram from the UK.
R. Craigen (21:21:32) :
I live in Winnipeg. A mere 8,000 years ago the glaciers receded, and we are still undergoing isostatic rebound we are at the epicenter of this kind of activity. This is also possibly the most stable part of the planet with respect to volcanic activity. Not saying it can’t happen here but I don’t think there’s a fault line within 1000km in any direction, hardly a hint of earthquakes originating here, and zero in terms of active volcanos.>>
Sir, you know very well that we pile up all the snow from the whole winter of street clearing just off the Kenaston freeway and it is so deep that it doesn’t completely melt in the summer. We in fact have made our own glacier which mitigates the effects of the isostatic rebound. Then again we have no tsunamis or hurricanes either. This may be a side effect of our climate. It is so cold here that even the natural disasters won’t come to visit.
2012 ? get real, it’s an awful, awful, long, boring, stupid-as movie.
and DayAfter – the best part is when the paleoclimatologist achieves that amazing bit of mind-time bending convincing us that ‘it’s all our fault’.
and yes, I agree, that’s what it’s all about – ‘educating the masses’
but I wonder if the good doctor from Tavistock has factored in the merits of sacrificing some Royal Society virgins to appease the volcano to motivate the people. Of course, it’ll never work, but, oh never mind….
Climate scientists go through life with blinders on.